@panther3002 Also, Robert did a quick fix video as to how to program the mix. It is very easy, and he did a great video... NOt the right way to trim and mix an airplane, but a quick fix to a plane faling out of knife edge. Look down in the comments for the link.
@mtwargo Thanks a lot! That makes sense. I never knew that's how pilots did it. What do you mean that it's not the right way to trim and mix an airplane though?
Question Michael: I am an experienced pilot, but no expert by any means. When I fly my 3D foamie I set my elevator trim up quite a bit so that it flies nice and level at 2/3 throttle. This creates problems for me trying to get a nice straight knife-edge, however, as it requires a lot of down elevator then, and I have a hard time getting that set right. Do I just need more practice, or what is your technique to counter the heavy elevator trim???
@panther3002 The solution is simple. First Make certain your plane is balanced. If you have a lot of up elevator, you are probably nose heavy. In 3d, balance is very important. Regardless, this is what you must do. You must create a mix between rudder and elevator. in other words, every time you use rudder, the radio will automatically deflect the right amount to keep it straight. Nearly all of my planes have this mix to a degree.
@bigguyforsure The one I used in the others was the Addiction X. it flies on the Thrust 40. it is the larger one. They both fly great... Really great. Great first balsa 3d plane. Actually the only great Balsa 3d trainer.
I amswered you on the other video as well by the way.
Would love to be notified and on list to buy a copy if you get one made. LARRY Seems the way you go about showing and telling it I pick it up so much easer. TY
@bigguyforsure NOt at the moment, but I believe I will soon. We have more of these coming pretty quick. 2 this week I think, and I am working on a professionally produced how to 3D video. Haven't begun shooting, but will soon. Thanks for the interest though!
@jhonjhon101 Great question... simple answer... We will be addressing it at the end btw. But your problem is coupling, meaning your plane needs to be trimmed for knife edge. Simply go to your radio and program Rudder:elevator mixes and/or rudder:aileron. Sounds complicated but it is not. Can't explain here, but I will on the video soon. Read the manual. If it pulls toward the canopy, you will program some downward deflecting elevator mixed with rudder and so on....
Hi michael, nice tutorial. I have a few questions to ask about that. I think I can handle well the knife edge flight on simulator. But with my extra 300 from parkzone I noticed that it tends to spin back to a horizontal flight. If I counter with ailerons I also noticed that it tends to circle towards the belly. So I also add some elevator input to keep it straight. Have noticed this too or could it come from wrong settings or bad cg? Should I program a mix to neutralize these effects?
@rurouni42 : You are having coupling issues. Check out the video I posted on my channel showing How To Program out Coupling issues. I go over many different radios as well. ~~Hope this helps ~~Robert.
Great action and impressive explanations! if you want to learn how to, this is the place to be! Keep 'em going! This is what is needed to learn this type of flying and there isn't a better instructor than Michael Wargo! Thanks Robert, look forward to many more!!
I have been following Robert, rcredbaron for years. I don't think you could have selected a better host for your how to videos! He has always answered questions and emailed and has been a tremendous help to me and many of fellow pilots at the club. Our club has over 200 members and we all follow Roberts channel. Keep up the great videos and a big thank you for sponsoring Robert on these videos. I just know he will continue doing a great job for you!
Well, I am going to try to cover in the order it comes into the 3d arsenal. Honestly, All of my 3d flights use a large percentage of non 3d or at least non 3d exclusive maneuvers. I am most fond of f3A type straight line moves. But the knife edge is a fundamental that must be learned before rolling harriers. Patience... I will get to every move in your list. PLus, we are working out the best way to film and present it... so stay tuned.
Is KnifeEdge a 3D move? More like a basic pattern/F3A aerobatics move if you ask me. High alpha knife edge maybe but not regular knife edge. Just my 2C but will be interested to see how you demonstrate rolling harriers, knife edge spins, torque rolling etc. True 3D stuff.
Wow, this video is really professional. The split screen that even showed the way he was moving the sticks is very helpful, also the camera mounted in the airplane.
It should be called How to knife edge for dummies.
I wish that my airplane would work the same way as yours but, She falls low or turns and thats why i practice on the simulator. Thank you guys and i will have to practice more.
@coolwaterhubby Some planes that dont seem like they want to hold knife edge have coupling problems. Meaning they need a rudder/elevator and or a rudder/aileron mix. I do this with every plane I own. Maybe I will do a how to on coupling mixing.
Alright, I always tried to adjust the knife-edge altitude with rudder.. And that led to some crashes and I finally broke the motor. Now I´ll know better :)
Gonna get back to the field as soon as the new motor gets here (from Hobbyking)
I guess I'm late to this video series, But;
I have been looking at this model as a 3D trainer.
What is your recommended Power kit, and servos ?
Thanks You.
im2lar 1 month ago
What's the video camera on board ? :)
robppilot 2 months ago
That was great,I always wondered why my plane would fall when I added more rudder instead of power!
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tinalb1959 4 months ago in playlist Hobby Videos.
I can never find that plane on the web site... can you post a link?
FlatRat3 5 months ago
@FlatRat3 If you go to Hobby King and click on planes,then click on sport,aerobatic & 3D it'll show you all the 3D planes HK carries.
roberted51 4 months ago
Awesome vid! Thanks a lot!
legoliker7517 5 months ago in playlist More videos from HobbykingLive
perhaps you just use an offset switch on the elevator? Or perhaps you use neutral trim and use the elevator a lot when flying straight and level?
panther3002 5 months ago
@panther3002 Also, Robert did a quick fix video as to how to program the mix. It is very easy, and he did a great video... NOt the right way to trim and mix an airplane, but a quick fix to a plane faling out of knife edge. Look down in the comments for the link.
mtwargo 5 months ago
@mtwargo Thanks a lot! That makes sense. I never knew that's how pilots did it. What do you mean that it's not the right way to trim and mix an airplane though?
panther3002 5 months ago
Question Michael: I am an experienced pilot, but no expert by any means. When I fly my 3D foamie I set my elevator trim up quite a bit so that it flies nice and level at 2/3 throttle. This creates problems for me trying to get a nice straight knife-edge, however, as it requires a lot of down elevator then, and I have a hard time getting that set right. Do I just need more practice, or what is your technique to counter the heavy elevator trim???
panther3002 5 months ago
@panther3002 The solution is simple. First Make certain your plane is balanced. If you have a lot of up elevator, you are probably nose heavy. In 3d, balance is very important. Regardless, this is what you must do. You must create a mix between rudder and elevator. in other words, every time you use rudder, the radio will automatically deflect the right amount to keep it straight. Nearly all of my planes have this mix to a degree.
mtwargo 5 months ago
The addiction you are flying there is that the 20 or the 40??
bigguyforsure 6 months ago
@bigguyforsure The one I used in the others was the Addiction X. it flies on the Thrust 40. it is the larger one. They both fly great... Really great. Great first balsa 3d plane. Actually the only great Balsa 3d trainer.
I amswered you on the other video as well by the way.
mtwargo 5 months ago
Would love to be notified and on list to buy a copy if you get one made. LARRY Seems the way you go about showing and telling it I pick it up so much easer. TY
bigguyforsure 6 months ago
Would love to be notified and on list to buy a copy if you get one made. LARRY
bigguyforsure 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@bigguyforsure JUst subscribe to the channel and you will be notified. IF you send a private message to me I will put you on my personal email list.
mtwargo 5 months ago
Micheal do you offer a cd package on learning 3-d ? Larry bigguyforsure@yahoo.com
bigguyforsure 6 months ago
@bigguyforsure NOt at the moment, but I believe I will soon. We have more of these coming pretty quick. 2 this week I think, and I am working on a professionally produced how to 3D video. Haven't begun shooting, but will soon. Thanks for the interest though!
mtwargo 6 months ago
Thanks for the tips rcredbaron. I ll try that.
rurouni42 6 months ago
In what mode you RC transmiter is it? Mode 2?
FunktorTube 6 months ago
@FunktorTube mode 2
mtwargo 6 months ago
Weeble wobble move, would be very nice to see!! Thanks! nice job Mr. Wargo!
jhonjhon101 6 months ago
@jhonjhon101 Great question... simple answer... We will be addressing it at the end btw. But your problem is coupling, meaning your plane needs to be trimmed for knife edge. Simply go to your radio and program Rudder:elevator mixes and/or rudder:aileron. Sounds complicated but it is not. Can't explain here, but I will on the video soon. Read the manual. If it pulls toward the canopy, you will program some downward deflecting elevator mixed with rudder and so on....
mtwargo 6 months ago
Hi michael, nice tutorial. I have a few questions to ask about that. I think I can handle well the knife edge flight on simulator. But with my extra 300 from parkzone I noticed that it tends to spin back to a horizontal flight. If I counter with ailerons I also noticed that it tends to circle towards the belly. So I also add some elevator input to keep it straight. Have noticed this too or could it come from wrong settings or bad cg? Should I program a mix to neutralize these effects?
rurouni42 6 months ago
@rurouni42 : You are having coupling issues. Check out the video I posted on my channel showing How To Program out Coupling issues. I go over many different radios as well. ~~Hope this helps ~~Robert.
RCRedBaron 6 months ago
can you do this with a 3ch
stampedvxl 6 months ago
@stampedvxl A 3 channel system? No... You need ailerons, elevator and rudder. 3 channel is not sufficient.
mtwargo 6 months ago
Great vid. Looking for more.
Eugensdiet 6 months ago
Cant wait for the rolling harrier and torque rolling!
dingo7222 6 months ago
Great instructional 3D flying vid,
JollySwagman2006 6 months ago
Great action and impressive explanations! if you want to learn how to, this is the place to be! Keep 'em going! This is what is needed to learn this type of flying and there isn't a better instructor than Michael Wargo! Thanks Robert, look forward to many more!!
marman426 6 months ago
I've watched all his videos.... What a great idea to Learn from a guy who flies like this... MORE... MORE
flyindaily 6 months ago
More, more more... Great video, keep them coming!
bakerrv 6 months ago
The 5 people who disliked this video so far just realized they have been trying to use rudder to control height on knife edge for years.... lol
lolergramCCCP 6 months ago
I have been following Robert, rcredbaron for years. I don't think you could have selected a better host for your how to videos! He has always answered questions and emailed and has been a tremendous help to me and many of fellow pilots at the club. Our club has over 200 members and we all follow Roberts channel. Keep up the great videos and a big thank you for sponsoring Robert on these videos. I just know he will continue doing a great job for you!
SkyFlyerRC 6 months ago
Thanks Michael! Very easy to understand. Excelent job.
"Vince"
MrRican34 6 months ago
Well, I am going to try to cover in the order it comes into the 3d arsenal. Honestly, All of my 3d flights use a large percentage of non 3d or at least non 3d exclusive maneuvers. I am most fond of f3A type straight line moves. But the knife edge is a fundamental that must be learned before rolling harriers. Patience... I will get to every move in your list. PLus, we are working out the best way to film and present it... so stay tuned.
mtwargo 6 months ago
Is KnifeEdge a 3D move? More like a basic pattern/F3A aerobatics move if you ask me. High alpha knife edge maybe but not regular knife edge. Just my 2C but will be interested to see how you demonstrate rolling harriers, knife edge spins, torque rolling etc. True 3D stuff.
ditchit 6 months ago
Thank you, good new serial for 3d !
VTOLKits 6 months ago
Awesome! Thats really helpfull stuff!
Locoracers 6 months ago
Thanks! That gave me a whole new way of understanding knife-edge.
xthor1 6 months ago
More of this please well done hobby king for giving something back
ATB Malc B
Silly Fokker RC
Ghostmaker1970 6 months ago
Great and very usefull
SirDee1966 6 months ago
Great "how to" in a simple, clear and well presented format. 5 Stars!
bonnie9496 6 months ago
hey, what power setup are you using?
foot8sativa 6 months ago
Well done on the helpful video.
And thank you hobbyking for being so darn cheap... Price wise!
TheJclone 6 months ago
Can't wait for the harrier video!
redfishtom 6 months ago
Thanks Everyone... And YEs, there will be more. This was a first attempt, and the next will have a lot of bugs worked out... So stay tuned
mtwargo 6 months ago
Nice video. It is great to find a "how to" video with a real model plane and not a simulator. Good job!!!
joseaechev 6 months ago
Wow, this video is really professional. The split screen that even showed the way he was moving the sticks is very helpful, also the camera mounted in the airplane.
It should be called How to knife edge for dummies.
arnaldo1219 6 months ago
Great video and I like the split screen technique. Very similar to the Dave Patrick "Wring it Out" videos several years back.
skydiver2776 6 months ago
Love this video ...keep makin more I wana learn more !!!!!:D
N926OD 6 months ago
Great video! ! It made me figure out what I was doing wrong. PLEASE GIVE US MORE VIDS!!
celm74 6 months ago
Hope Hobby King keeps developing these "How To" videos.....great help.
Gregg
gators7172 6 months ago
Thanks for the lesson. Look forward to more. It's been hard learning all by myself.
bfernand1 6 months ago
I wish that my airplane would work the same way as yours but, She falls low or turns and thats why i practice on the simulator. Thank you guys and i will have to practice more.
coolwaterhubby 6 months ago
@coolwaterhubby Some planes that dont seem like they want to hold knife edge have coupling problems. Meaning they need a rudder/elevator and or a rudder/aileron mix. I do this with every plane I own. Maybe I will do a how to on coupling mixing.
mtwargo 6 months ago
very nice!!! please tell us your setup for the yak 55.
alpha25flyer 6 months ago
what plane are you using to demonstrate the knife edge?
s0ulman100 6 months ago
@s0ulman100 Hobby King's Yak55 EPP Look in the suggested videos or my video on it on HobbyKing's Channel
mtwargo 6 months ago
@mtwargo thanx mate
s0ulman100 6 months ago
@s0ulman100
s0ulman100 6 months ago
Are those Sweat Sains on Robert? :S
Hard to judge based on footage from a $9.99 keychain cam..
Great tips though, keep 'em coming!
AceMcMoron 6 months ago
Alright, I always tried to adjust the knife-edge altitude with rudder.. And that led to some crashes and I finally broke the motor. Now I´ll know better :)
Gonna get back to the field as soon as the new motor gets here (from Hobbyking)
erajomppa 6 months ago
This is awesome! keep these videos coming! :D
a09a21a 6 months ago
Cool
Vik13vik 6 months ago
Our of sync in a major way. But interesing
BMSWEB 6 months ago
Nice..
if you could use a wireless mic next time... kinda hard to understand,,
thanks
brushless55 6 months ago
@brushless55 no its not lol u deaf
KluchyHD 6 months ago
just wondering what setup are you using on it...??? im planning on getting one soon
Evansss1997 6 months ago
nicee
Evansss1997 6 months ago