Guiding Light - Roger Thorpe rapes Holly

[Kehopkin]

Michael Zaslow oh how I have missed him. One of the great actors soap or otherwise of all time.

[lovejoypain]

This woman is SOOO dumb

[progressive59]

One of the most memorable scenes in soap history. There will never be another Roger Thorpe. They don't make soaps like this anymore. RIP Michael Zaslow

[BiracialGoddess]

"I'm your husband! I have certain rights!" Man, Michael Zaslow was SCARY in this scene.

[kelvinblack0]

I hate rapists FUCK YOU ROGER

[kelvinblack0]

I hate wife beaters

[Bigcitytaken]

hmmmmm is it wrong that this clip got me aroused??

[lovejoypain]

@Bigcitytaken Nope. Common fantasy women have (not the real thing obviously)

[dougbrown63]

I have no idea why Mart Hulswit was let go...

[Betty3686]

Great. I love all Guiding Light. CL

[privatedancer06]

This is still riveting!!!!!!!!!

[MsSandy1996]

I HATE Rapists!!!

Pathtic Bastards!

[IMAGYPSYMOTHERFUCKER]

@MsSandy1996 I don't like people who can't spell, each to their own eh?

[carrington73]

Michael Zaslow was an amazing actor.

[MsHaaaaaaaaaaa]

The man is so ugly the girl is so pretty:)

[koektoful]

@MsHaaaaaaaaaaa

the man is very attractive, too

[416mcp]

There are many great actors on daytime tv. In looking at this clip I agree that Maureen Garrett is great. I dont think all actors on daytime are that good. I recently watched episodes of All My Children. I dont' think SusanLucci is a very good actor. It is sad that GL and ATWT have been canceled. There are so much better than AMC.

[Messylin]

God, Maureen Garrett's beauty is breathtaking!

[Duck8107]

@Messylin Agreed! She has great skin and natural good looks. She still looks wonderful, even now.

[themirrorsofmymind]

They should NEVER have put the two of them back together after this!

[sexfreak77]

i love talking to my girlfriend like that

[BravoZ3R0]

rhape time :O

[Arenzoj]

Awwww. rape is funny. I wish sex was always that easy

[BabyCarlyle]

@Arenzoj WTF??? As a past rape victim I have to say that's the sickest shit I've ever heard!

[Arenzoj]

@BabyCarlyle Well its not always rape sometimes its just suprise sex that she didn't know that she wanted. And sometimes you have to show a woman what a real man is and at times its hard to know when you take it to far

[Rixera]

@Arenzoj Hahaha, oh my lord im speechless :0

[dkmaple387]

@BabyCarlyle Woh, calm down there. He said "not always." He was just pointing out that in the real world everything is grey, not black and white like a soap opera.

A lot of people don't realize that it's not only women who have to worry about rape, but men too! And not only about being raped, but about accidentally "going too far" as Arenzoj said and becoming a rapist. I've had bfs that after they found out I was a rape victim were afraid to even touch me. It completely ruined sex with them.

[Englishlass]

I will never forgive Roger for this.

[MrsChristopherAsher]

I couldn't believe they showed it the first time, I wish she was with Ed.

[EmilyGah]

No husband has a right to rape his wife...

[jezzfan33]

Hey why do so many people like this couple if it's like this?

[waterlilyqueen]

@jezzfan33 I don't think people generally liked them as a romantic couple. I think it was more of a fascination.

[jezzfan33]

@waterlilyqueen good response; appreciate that

[Green20921]

Roger and Holly was first. Luke and Laura

was second.

[fight4acause]

Luke and Laura were slightly different as they weren't married when he raped her. LnL fell in love and got married after the rape.

[luridplanet]

Much more interesting relationship than seeing Ed mooning after Eva - didn't she go blind?

[Riss313]

which was first LNL or this?

[laminage]

What is LNL?

[Riss313]

wow never had that question before...but all sarcasm aside and I apologize for it, but Luke and Laura...from General Hospital.

[laminage]

Hmm, thanks for the info Riss313. I only watched GH in the 1980's for a hot moment that's why I asked.

[adelgado75]

Is there any footage of Michael Zaslow when he began to show sign of Lou Gerighs' disease? I apologize if this is a macabre question. And I also apolozie for my spelling errors.

[thirtymphs]

@adelgado75 If you do find it it'll be from the summer and early fall of 1997.

[JrsyBarry]

This scene is just as Powerful thirty years later.

[waterlilyqueen]

Watching this is even better now knowing that Holly ended up with Ed at the show's end.

[GreatLash75]

How nice to see some other "fans" out there... I would schedule my entire day all summer long around GH and GL.... they were both on at the same time, made it difficult to choose just one, but boy those were the 'good old days'.....I was in college [summer school]. You could hear a pin drop in the sorority living room when they were on. Roger, Holly, Luke, Laura...

[TimsDale4ever]

I remember this well back in the day when this show was amazing (every day!) I watched from around 1977-82 with "rotten" Roger, Holly; Ed & Rita; Lucille & Amanda; Alan & Elizabeth; Kelly & Nola & Morgan; Amanda, Eve & Ben. God I could go on and on......Not coincidentally, GL won 2 of it's 3 emmys for best show during these years. I like Kim Zimmer, but the now generation who "think" the sun rose with her and the Lewis's really don't have a f*****g clue how really grand this show once was!

[robbygtx32]

Roger and Holly were the best couple in soap history. Nobody did dysfunction better than Michael Zalsow and Maureen Garrett. Perhaps if GL wrote stories like this today, they'd be on past 9/18/09.

[waterlilyqueen]

I started watching soaps around the same time that Michael Zaslow died and wondered if the accolodes he received were deserved. After seeing this, I know that he was as great as everybody said.

[sosullied]

OMG...how I miss this soap, especially the Roger & Holly era

[calypspoetryguy]

Holly was amazing. Susan Lucci finally won the emmy in 1999, so did Jeanne Cooper on Y&R in 2008, &Michael Zaslow won for GL in 1994, but to this day, I am still in shock why Maureen Garrett (holly) never won an Emmy. She delivered a Tour-De-force performance in GL in early 90s and late 70s. Its sad that GL is being cancelled, but whats even worse is that Maureen Garrett was never honored with an Emmy that she so greatly deserved for her role as Holly on Guiding Light for emore than 20 years!

[themirrorsofmymind]

@calypspoetryguy I didn't start watching GL until about 91 or something (right around the time Marj Dusay was Alexandra and Barbara Crampton just started as Mindy) and I loved Holly. MG had that gorgeous mellifluous voice! She was great, even when the show kept shape shifting. And Peter Simon was a pretty powerful and complex performer. I think MG, Fiona Hutchison, Julia Barr and Hillary B. Smith were all up for best actress, and Smith got the gold Shame it wasn't a tie..

[auntangie55]

Michael Zaslow was such a powerful actor. This was acting at it's best. When we lost him we lost one of the best. Guiding Light has not been the same since. I am so sorry it is being cancelled.

[ajwrangler1977]

So sad. This was a great plot that drove intense story still in 1989 when Roger came back to town and Holly tried to kill him as he slept in a hospital bed. This is the "Guiding Light" I will always remember. I have no idea what this show is that is getting cancelled that calls itself "Guiding Light" but I hope in the final 5 months they bring back characters like Holly, Fletcher, Roxie and someway/somehow Harley. The writers have 5 months to make the end count. I hope they find a way to do so.

[js097]

Guiding Light was the gold standard when Roger and Holly were on it. Too bad it is being cancelled.

[AXISOFHENDRIX]

He should have went on to the Sliver screen-- fantastic actor- the best in all of soaps (IMHO)

[1121Scorpi]

This was very good acting...i remember this scene..GL will be missed!!!!

Bring back the Bauers and The Santos and Jonathan!!!

[tmattrope]

I forgot all about Roger Thorpe, he went from nice guy to psycho/bad guy quite suddenly. This was a really good story too. BUT didn't this go to trial at some point? I'd love to see that too.

[OceanKingNY]

CBS announced today, 4/1/09, that GL has been cancelled and will end on September 18th.

RIP Guiding Light - 1937-2009

[nakamichiguy]

Wow. I'm impressed. Most soap acting and writing is usually pretty silly but this scene managed to be very intense. Good acting too, and a pretty hart topic for the era. RIP you old Soap you. An end of an era.

[Notawesomeatall7]

This is pretty goodm acting for a soap opera.

[ChandlerReigns]

Soap operas have plenty of good acting. Unforunately people like to look at the genre as a mockery.

[BabyCarlyle]

@ChandlerReigns True plenty of people got their start on soaps

[McMellie]

BRING BACK THE BAUER FAMILY!! The only one left is Rick I believe. The Bauers are the original family of Sprfingfield!

[AdventureStreetSoap]

R.I.P. Michael Zaslow

[BahmanG]

I think the guy would be kinda hot if he had a haircut.

[akbleiweiss]

oh yea rub rape her

[siddhesh2515]

what can i say the guy was too loaded :p

[Jazzwoman1985]

Watch A Call to Arms: Breaking The Silence and pass it on to as many people as humanely possible.

[shydmples]

Michael & Maureen were MARVELOUS!!!

[shydmples]

Man, this was some powerful stuff....been a fan for most of my life...I'm 37...have the videos, book...and Melissa Hayden's autograph...lol...anyway...Mic­hael was by far my favorite...and one of my most moving scenes was the rape of Holly

[eriklovessoaps]

This is the first time I've seen this. Michael Zaslow was a really good actor. As far as the rape went, I've read it called marital rape, but she was about to leave him for Ed. I assume Holly divorced Roger's ass soon after. For all intents and purposes, wasn't the marriage over? I guess this subject came up when people wondered if Olivia and Jeffery could get together. With this rape, they loved each other before the crime making it confusing. They tried to do the opposite with Olivia.

[parkman35]

You know, I've watch over a dozen GL clips on YouTube concerning various characters and issues,a nd almost every comment board has a post about how bad teh show is...how much better the other shows are. So I guess I'm asking, what is so bad about the GL today? People talking about how it'll probably go off the air, and how bad the storylne is. , but I check out Y&R, and ATWT, and AMC, and what's the big difference? GL has lasted over 70 years...I hope it's around to see 100..

[sara31tx]

Parkman... I could not agree with you more,I have watched every soap pretty much ever made, and GL too me is the best soap ever. Once the storyline is over, what keeps you interested?GL has kept me glued for over 20 years..it's the only real soap left. IMO

[parkman35]

Thanx Sara...I don't think storylines are ever entirely over...they can be filed away and brought back to add on to at another time. That is why I keep watching. I will say, in reference to GL's quality, that there have been good characters on the show who are no longer part of the story, but that can change as we will see tomorrow when Phillip Spaulding returns...

[bratchercrystal]

me too.i have been watching gl on you tube.

[needabreak]

OMG!!!

[waterlilyqueen]

This is really powerful. So many soap opera scenes from back then have really cheesy acting (even more than now) but this seemed so real. They really were great actors.

[luridplanet]

I have hardly ever watched soaps, but I definitely remember this - Holly the eternal victim, then she went blind, I believe - lol!

[ThePinkDragon]

A daytime anwomen's rights Milesone > I hope It inspired realnwomen./ I didn't starting warcubng till 3 or 4 years later, POwerdul

[indianakennedy]

Never missed an episode!!!

[jld005]

This is a good quality pic...esp from 1979. I don't watch this show, but wow...

[sanenz]

always loved holly

[MsDeandrea]

Roger Thorpe was the best villain of ALL TIME Ive based all of my bad guys after him...Im a writer by the way

[cocoacorin]

Oh yes. That is why I was disappointed when GL did not keep him through his diability.

[kulvir15]

I watched Guiding Light for a short period (1989-1992) but I totally agree that Roger Thorpe was the absolute best villain ever on a daytime drama. I wonder if Bill Bell was trying to create his own Roger when Eric Braeden joined the cast of Y&R in 1980 as Victor Newman (coincidentally only a few months prior to Michael Zaslow's departure from Guiding Light), although Victor is a church mouse compared to Roger.

[79butters]

you picked the best years of GL! ;-)

[cocoacorin]

Yes. AC Mallet looked Italian and he wasn't from Oz. Reva was nowhere to be seen. Just kiddin'

[nobillclinton]

awesome stuff- - -love Zazlow

[hollybigolly]

wow...they were so young....I remember watching this back then..great acting, awesome show!

[cutenightyaol]

OMG this was the story that I watched at age 9 that hooked me on soaps. I'm 38 now, with a masters degree --- people wonder who watches soaps --- um, educated people who love entertainment like this. God, Roger Thorpe was the BEST villain! Loved the whole kidnapping afterward ... good tv stuff.

[tvercetti1970]

.......I remember this episode years ago when

I was 9 going on 10,my twin brother,god rest

his soul,met the actor who played Roger

Thorpe.

[tarheel8494]

i know this was a grim scene...but the original ed bauer here was so sexy

[longtee30]

Roger was one of the alltime great villians. Guiding Light used to be a great show.

[xXBubblyXx7]

and it still is

[Brandiig]

I loved this soap. I watched Guiding Light since I was little kid. This video showed what really Roger Thorpe was rewally like. God rest in Roger.

[robynsegg]

Oh man! This is gr8! I can't w8 2 show my mom & sister this!!!! 1 of the gr8st moments in soap opera history! God I missed Roger Thorpe! 1 of my top 5 BADASS male villians.

[sny625]

Outstandingly acted scene controversial topic if they had the media outlets they have today the show would have been revered even more for approaching this hidden troubled family topic GL deserves major credit for tackling this social topic

[Soapking1965]

I always adored Roger, but this was the only time I wanted Roger strung up by his testicles. I was 14 when this aired in the Spring of '79.

[wbcanno]

It is great to see this clip. I remeber watching it!!!!!!!!!! i am 39 now and my mom was always watching to see what crazy Roger Thorpe was doing. Please post more 1970`s Guiding light clips! That period on the show was awesome!

[sealife22]

only in 1990 was it a crime for a spouse to rape his wife in England. how slow is that? thst was from the case of R v R.

[Phaser120]

Michael Zaslow was a guest star on Star Trek in the first episode "Man Trap" 1966

[YANSHIA]

i love this, i love saops

[BimBam89]

LOL...this is disgusting...

[barbaglia]

i remember this show first roger raped rita stapleton then her rapes holly but rita tell mike ed brother what he did mike was a lawyer and roger goes to jail it took 6 weeks on tv for the trial it aired late 70's wow i feel old now lol

[debfan74]

I was very little then....but I do recall that..my mom has watched Guiding Light faithfully for years!

[datboioutda7th]

didnt they hook back up in 1993??? wierd how things liike this happens and then people forget about it and have a relationship!!!

[anabanana0714]

They never forgot about it. It was always there in the back of their minds, but they were able to move past it and remember that once upon a time, they were madly in love with each other and still had those same feelings years later.

[fiveinjuly]

Chilling. Very good story telling. The way things should be.

[supertoxic07]

Excellent clip . Do you have the closing theme music for The Guiding Light as well? That would be so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jess4metoo]

Hi, Search "The Guiding Light End Credit Montage 1" to see and hear that ending.

Cheers!

[tigger261]

I used to love Roger, hehe

[sloftin]

Back when GL was good...

[dvlaries]

As The World Turns quickly followed suit in 1980 or 81 having John Dixon rape wife Dee Stewart. There was even a trial but I'm not sure how it came out.

[Rollergirl2001]

To the poster of the clip, do you happen to have the intro to all of the major soaps of the 1970s?

[rc1965]

Wow...I remember hearing of this happening to Holly over the years...and I never knew exactly when it happened...and I didn't realize they were married then....I always thought that Chrissie..."Blake" was a product of the rape...but this is an important issue that surely does happen in real life...very interesting trivia to actually see this episode...I wish Holly was still on GL...and I loved Michael's acting...so sorry to hear that he has passed...

[kellina84]

RIP Michael, you played a good ass hole. . .

[1pixie]

wow! this was two months after I was born! They looked so young

[coyneman35]

This is from March 1979

[ajwrangler1977]

I never saw this episode. I was much too young at the time. But I do remember in 1989 this was STILL fueling storylines 10 years after it happened when Holly almost suffocated Roger as he lay sleeping in a hospital bed. This show used to be such an great program with much more intelligent storytelling. It now is a hollow shell of what it once was.

[parisscott]

I remember this. Yes it was compelling. They actually revisted this storyline a couple of years ago with Holy, When Roger's son from another relationship showed up to deliver the news that Roger had died. RIP Michael Zaslow.

[funrunla]

I sure do miss the old days of daytime when there was compelling storytelling like this. Rest in Peace SEARCH FOR TOMORROW, EDGE OF NIGHT and what used to be THE GUIDING LIGHT!

[mthivier]

Would love to see some old clips from those days of Roger and Rita.

[kidrockkrazy]

I didn't think I would ever see that again. I love this site. At least I do now that I have discovered these old GL scenes.

[feemeister]

This was really powerful! This show was SO good! I hadn't seen that since it happened!! Thank you!

[findcoolvids]

This is before my time... but wanted to say thanks for posting it. and I've had a love hate relatinship with the character of roger... I've watched gl since about 1996.

some of the acting was a little less then best, but still good. roger seems to be stumble through some words when he questions about ed and breathin a little rough.. lol

[Gatsbyesque]

He does stumble, but I think it enhances the performance.

[findcoolvids]

i made a mistake. i watched gl since about 86/87. and yes, roger's breathing/stumbling adds to the dramatics of it. i noticed that after watching it this time. thanks for replying!

[jamalama]

Wow - a classic!