Al Jazeera's 'The War In America' - Part 2 - 19 Mar 08

[TheOmatron]

The thing is, the surge WORKED. I am still vehemently against the premise on which we went to Iraq, however groups like Code Pink are completely delusional.

[Research0digo]

at 06:34, that's Ehren Watada.

Anyway more Vets in theater voted for Dr Ron Paul than anyone else combines. They also donated to his campaign more than the other two.

[holymolydude]

I hate David Frum so much. He's such a jackass.

[Research0digo]

@holymoly

He is also a dyed in the Kosher wool NEOCON

[translationwiz]

I feel real sad for: the American mothers who lost their children; the Iraqi children who lost their parents. For us Americans that were frightened & deceived to give our loyalty to agents of profit&self interest. Then loved themselves for getting us to hate. What I fear more is that this is going to happen again. How else can we justify invasions& exploitation. Are jobs more important than our souls? This isnt the American spirit my father died for. Nor the one I was raised to admire.

peace

[Canada1953]

Why don't America draft this Canadian David Frum? I wonder where he would run back to?

[jabmalassie]

Everything you say is being tracked in

a supercomputer.

They know alot about you.

[pushups2345]

and the radical anti-war hroup lyes more than anyone i know

[explaining2u]

Dear practicekiller,

Which version of the Holy Bible is not the issue because all versions are just updating of the Holy Bible to the current century with the doctrine of the True Allah TRULY UPDATED LITERATERALLY,

But whether Mohammad had lied is the issue!

Mohammad HAD NOT EVEN 1 EYE-WITNESS.

MUSA HAD 600,000 OVER EYE-WITNESSES.

JESUS HAD MORE THAN 4 EYE-WITNESSES.

No eye-witness means Mohammad was LYING!

AMEN IN CHRIST JESUS

[explaining2u]

Dear thbjw1,

Evil Islamic priests use Quran verses to subjugate the Muslims in order to overthrow non-Muslim and Muslim goverments like what Mohammad did?

If Islamic martyrdom is true, then why did not Mohammad had himself killed as the first Islamic 'martyr'?

Why did Mohammad prefer to have 30 wives on earth when he, Mohammad, could have 72 virgins in heaven as the first Islamic 'martyr'?

And Osama Bin Laden?

The Christian martyrdom: JESUS was the first Christian martyr!

AMEN

[trollfinger]

Probably the same reason George Bush and Cheney didn't go to war. And did Jesus choose to die ?

[explaining2u]

Dear trollfinger,

Jesus chose to die on the cross to conquer THE FEAR OF DEATH which every human beings feared/fear.

Anyone who believes in Jesus will have no fear of death for Christians know that Jesus had died for our sins and when Christians repent, they are forgiven by God and will not face the second death.

In this world, we all have tribulations and if we believe in Jesus, He will help us to overcome.

AMEN IN CHRIST JESUS

[pushups2345]

lol. these guys dont help anyone, esspecially the anti-war block

[jaguar3757]

great job Al-Jazeera!

[catbox]

Thanks for posting!

[PauloGVieira]

After 9/11 Americans had the sympathy and support of the world - within the space of a few years they managed to changed this entirely. It is not just the Middle East that looks upon the USA with absolute disdain - it is more unpopular than Osama Bin Laden.

[Islamicpeace]

people of America wake up this war is for oil and for Israel.

[dogterd]

Oh c'mon folks, war is good.... it's the American way... kill lots of people, make a lot of money, leave the bill for the next generation. Even better, just invest in war industry and sit back on your ass and watch the dividends roll in... oh yeah, and vote for a fucking goat as long as it's a Republican goat.

[ijosdeputisima]

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[afrircans1970]

What is interesting is that the USA has become a very feminine nation. [The anti-war elements are mostly women.] That may be it's strength (or not). In truth the anti-war elements cannot fill a voting-block. That is why that issue is mostly irrelevant. THE PERSONAL ISSUE IS NOT IRRELEVANT!

Veterans need care, support and love form a grateful nation. They won't get it from anyone but their own. The anti-war element has never delivered, the VA has never delivered.....Where will it come from???

[edb00fr]

Bush and his Dick should be put to court, and face a Judgment for conspiracy of killing all those US soldiers

[aquamammal]

Fuck Condi, Fuck War, And fuck Theism.

Kucinich!! You are awesome.

Strength Through Peace.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

black propganda here, do not associate kucinich with these thoughtless, reckless hate-filled statements. kucinich has alot of respect for the muslim world and understands that mutual respect and discussion are the only ways to solve the problem. idiotic confrontation initiated by the US can only lead the us down the same destructive path that we are on and have proven to and have proven to destroy opportunity and potential.

[aquamammal]

lol, who said anything about respecting/ disrespecting islam? I said theism, there is a difference. That means Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Scientology, Mormonism, and Islam.

It is theism that has led the species down "this path", so go fucking learn something.

XVX for life, true 'til death.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

right, you are disrespecting people generally, including muslims. given that the topic of this video was the war in iraq, the implication of your statement is obvious. this is a conflict initiated by profit/power motives, not religion. once you understand that there are varied causes not always attributable to the same thing, you will be able to see that there are not such simple answers.

[aquamammal]

No, I disrespect theism. If muslims find offence to this, it's because their theistic views are generally hostile towards rationalism.

Belief in a god is cause of all this conflict. profit/power conflicts are all caused by the inability to recognize cause and effect (Karma in a nutshell) and the delusion that somehow this reality is temporary.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

we already had this discussion on another video. science does not disprove theism and prove atheism, therefore theism is just as rationally/scientifically valid as atheism. you essentially have a faith in atheism, rather than theism; and you are condemning and insutling other people, most of which have noble faith. religion and science do not necessarily contradict, this is a common misconception.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

if you look at this rationally, religion provides bodies of ethics that are inherently good and responsible ways to live one's life. it has also been advocating rights of the poor, providing social welfare, standing up to the abuses of power, modesty, moderation, etc., etc., etc.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

religion has been distorted in some cases.

there are many inherently non-religious and non-rational ideologies like fascism (totalitarian state capitalism , based on social darwinism, survival of the fittest) that have caused some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen. there is no rational basis for the secular ideology of capitalism; where wealth distribution puts all the money ownership in the hands of a few. what is your rational basis for atheism?

[aquamammal]

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?

No one has ever killed in the name of "atheism", while history is the story of blood spilled in the name of delusion.

Stoning, honor killings, etc. You don't need religion to teach the golden rule (it doesn't). It's simple game theory, which is founded on logic.