hichyack was fighting all of them at once but they keped coming at him because they wer not nearly as hurt as they wer yen they fight broly he was beating the heck out of goko gohan TEEN trunkns and had vegeta giving up trembiling in fear come on vegeta was scared thats saying something all at the same time the only one that keped coming back up was goko (broly is stronger than goko for some people that think goko is stronger)
@thefredrick08 Goku IS stronger than Broly. Broly had less power than the SSJ2 form, but at the time i'll admit Goku was weaker. The only reason Broly had Vegeta trembling in fear is because he was a Saiyan of legend. Vegeta wouldn't let anyone besides another saiyan strike that kind of fear into him. Even Frieza only made him frustrated, not terrified.
Also, Broly beat on them a lot longer than hatchiyak, that's why they came back. Recall they did it with Broly too.
@thefredrick08 vegeta is never scared of anyone except fereeza. that was just the writers of movie 7 being poorly understanding idiots of their own characters. goku advanced to higher levels, broly didnt. thats why gkuos stornger.
This F!@# switched profiles to try and argue his points?!!! i'm done, this guy's now denying what the characters themselves said and giving his own spin on why they probably said it, not even gonna tag him cause he'd just switch again and "tag his other profile" to better argue an invalid premise, basically the most recent bs is
Goku: Broly just keeps getting stronger
Vegeta: Is his power increasing?!!!
Stupid DBZ Troll : No they dont know anything, Broly's power level rising is a myth
Uhh, dude, I'm not 054marinm... Actually, I really hate that guy... He's kind of a troll, but the only thing I agree with is that Broly's power does not increase infinitely... I am aware of what Goku and Vegeta said, but I just don't see any evidence that it's true... Yes, Goku and Vegeta sensed Broly's ki increasing, BUT HOW THE HELL does that mean it can grow INFINITELY all of a sudden??? There is no Proof of this at all, and if anything I only see high resilience from Broly...
Uhh, dude, I'm not 054marinm... Actually, I really hate that guy... He's kind of a troll, but the only thing I agree with is that Broly's power does not increase infinitely... I am aware of what Goku and Vegeta said, but I just don't see any evidence that it's true... Yes, Goku and Vegeta sensed Broly's ki increasing, BUT HOW THE HELL does that mean it can grow INFINITELY all of a sudden??? There is no Proof of this at all, and if anything I only see high resilience from Broly...
Uhh, dude, I'm not 054marinm... Actually, I really hate that guy... He's kind of a troll, but the only thing I agree with is that Broly's power does not increase infinitely... I am aware of what Goku and Vegeta said, but I just don't see any evidence that it's true... Yes, Goku and Vegeta sensed Broly's ki increasing, BUT HOW THE HELL does that mean it can grow INFINITELY all of a sudden??? There is no Proof of this at all, and if anything I only see high resilience from Broly...
And in case you haven't noticed, I have had many conversations with 054martinm before and if you ever go and read any of them you will realize that me and him disagree on almost everything... The idiot likes DBGT and considers it AS official as DBZ and DB while I hate DBGT and argue (CORRECTLY) that DBGT is nothing more than a side story and is not an official continuation of DBZ.
The only thing me and him agree on is that Broly's power doesn't rise infinitely. That's ridiculous
@SamuelJoaodaSuica that is ludicrous. if it wasnt an official continuation they wouldnt have made it. gt is part of toeis dragonball universe and toriyama loved watching it and worked on it but felt safe in letting toei work on most of it.
@054martinm Why do you watch Broly-related videos if you hate him so much? Every video you are arguing with someone about him. If you haven't noticed, you're not going to change anyone's opinion.
and if you haven't noticed, he's arguing about Broly because some people are Stupid enough to believe that Broly's power rises infinitely without explanation or any proof and thus that makes Broly "The strongest DBZ character ever" which is the dumbest bullshit I have ever heard in a DBZ related topic...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica I know what he argues about, I've debated with him several times. My point is, he isn't going to sway anyone's opinion anytime soon, so why bother. Also, having unlimited ki isn't a far-fetched concept in DBZ seeing as the Androids have it. The reason people believe Broly has a constant supply of energy is because he hasn't shown a hint of fatigue for the amount of energy he uses (he can charge huge amount of energy blasts with small effort) followed by the
No, The androids don't have unlimited Ki. That is also a myth. They have "unlimited energy/Stamina" to live without having to shut down because of the lack of energy... In other words they never "run out of batteries". And 17 and 18 in particular are Cyborgs, not androids, and their natural Ki is just amplified by their cybernetic attachments, but they are Human in just about every other way...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica "My ki is overflowing" comment he made in movie 8. This could imply many things such as he doesn't have good control over his power, or that his ki increased to the point of overflowing without him knowing. Until we can understand Japanese instead relying on translated subs or misleading dubs, this debate will go on for quite a while. Tons of things are left for debate in DBZ, it's a technique the author uses.
It is far fetched because the Androids were said to have "unlimited supply of Energy (STAMINA NOT KI)" meaning they would "never run out of batteries" and have to be shut down due to lack of power. Like when your iPhone dies out kinda...
Anyway, Kid Buu also has infinate stamina. He never gets tired or battle weary... Now I suppose it's possible that Broly may have a very high resilience, however he does not have EVER increasing Ki as Broly fans claim he does...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Dr. Gero said they have unlimited energy, eternal life, and no aura to be tracked. The word energy can be interpreted in different ways seeing as ki is referred too as energy in the series several times.
Besides, unlike Buu and the Androids who were created with specific perks, Broly is a organic being, meaning if his stamina were to remain at a constant level he would need ki to do so, which implies unlimited ki as well.
Buu is technically organic as well... The only difference is that Buu is "Magical" however he is still organic... When Goku and Vegeta are inside Buu, it's made quite clear that Buu is biological and organic. He is a natural being and not a machine... The only thing that makes buu special is that he is "magical"...
And in the case of the androids, unlimited ki means that they never die out due to a lack of energy (aka they don't age or die out of power)
@SamuelJoaodaSuica In that sense then yes Buu is organic. The point I was trying to get across was that Buu's body doesn't follow the same rules of other organic beings due to him being created with specific perks or "magic". This would explain how Buu's incredible durability and stamina can remain constant even if his ki drains while Broly can't.
I think I agree with you, and our misunderstanding is based on a differing idea of what "Infinitely rising Ki" means...
Ok, So what I mean my "Ki" is powerlevel... I am assuming that people think that Broly's Powerlevel rises for NO REASON with absolutely no training or hard work, WITHOUT LIMIT! So if Broly were frozen in a Glacier for a million years and then released, his powerlevel would be like "Infinity"... WHICH IS STUPID AND IMPOSSIBLE
You seem to be suggesting that Broly's Ki (energy/life force) remains constant and doesn't drop. I actually agree with this. I don't believe Broly has infinite Stamina like Buu does, but I think Broly is so durable that you wouldn't really notice a difference... Broly is not magical, so I would find it hard to believe that he has infinite stamina like Buu, however He is so durable it's almost like he does have it... So I agree with you on that note...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Yes Broly's ki remaining constant is a somewhat reasonable concept opposed to it infinitely rising like you said, but it's hard to know for sure. Based off of movie 8 and movie 10, the battle went in Broly's favor completely until the very end, meaning Broly has not had an adequate challenge that would reveal his limits. I believe if Broly were fighting a SSJ2 Goku in movie 10 rather than SSJ2 Gohan, we would have seen a much different Broly.
@pakl123456 Indeed, but as I stated earlier if Broly actually trained instead of relying on his raw power to defeat his opponents, I'm sure he could go up against a SSJ2 Goku in due time.
if he would trained he would have been a ssj3 level even stronger lol but its all assumptions and yeah ssj2 goku would beat broly considering the fact that broly was beaten by a kamehameha which was weaker than ssj2 goku
@pakl123456 Yeah he would have most likely lost to SSJ2 Goku, but I see his defeat in both movie 8 and movie 10 as mere plot device that were used just for the good guys to win. In both movies he owned them the entire movie until the very end due to something idiotic. Movie 8, he was defeated by one punch from Goku who gathered energy from half dead base form saiyans. Movie 10 a half dead base kid trunks managed to block Broly's ki access to his Omega Blaster, leading to his defeat.
I think when Broly said that line, he was just having problems controlling his own power. Look at how bulky he looks! His pupils are missing, I mean he looks like he has gone MAD with power. Honestly I think when he said that he said it because he was having difficulty controlling his own power. Even Frieza had to create his 4 transformation to supress his power because his Natural form had too much power for him to control (though he looked more in control than Broly ever did)
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Yeah I sort of thought that as well. It's like his LSSJ transformation is a maxed-out Super Saiyan form much similar to a Ultra Super Saiyan, but due to his genetics he lacks the disadvantages of a USSJ such as no speed loss. He was just gifted with huge raw power, if he actually trained like Goku and the others and refined his energy, I'm sure he could outclass a SSJ2 Goku. SSJ3 has him completely beat however haha
I agree, however I don't think Broly has the discipline to train. His genetics give him so much raw power that he cannot control it, and training himself in a disciplined manner would be thus IMPOSSIBLE for Broly. His mental strength is just not strong enough to control himself like Goku and Vegeta do. Mentally, Goku and Vegeta are FAR superior to Broly...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica True. He lost any remaining sanity he had left in movie 10, seen when he couldn't tell the difference between Goten and Goku. Most villians behave this way though, they are either gifted with a high power level than the others around them or given power; leading them to believe they are simply superior to everyone else to begin with. Even more so for Broly seeing as how saiyans are typically born with violent tendencies and he never learned to control them.
Wrong again actually, Vegeta matches him in the end(and as we've learned when Vegeta reaches the same level as Goku his power slightly surpasses) and technically their fusion still counts as a saiyan so....
OH my IM SO GLAD YOU JUST SAID THAT...what proof do you have that ssj4 Goku is stronger than SSJ4 Vegeta?! And technically as vegito and Gogeta's said....We are two Saiyans made 1, so once again, no validity in your claim
@Radripper5 well 1. hes used it for alot longer and surpassed his previous limitations (as stated by z fighters). 2. he's used it in battle so many times that its almost instinct to use it. and we all know its awkward using a form for the very first time.
In fact, it's more likely that SSJ 4 Goku is more powerful than SSJ 4 Vegeta because Goku achieved SSJ 4 naturally with his OWN power while Vegeta had to use assistance from an artificial machine to go SSJ 4 (The Blutzwave amplifier machine that Bulma made)...
There is no proof that one is stronger than the other, but this in itself suggests that Goku probably was stronger than Vegeta and had been so throughout DBGT until that point...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica both needed assistance. vegeta didnt need anyone to make him get control back because he already had control. bulma used a fake moon generator which is exactly the same as uising a real moon. so vegeta achieved it the same way goku did but with LESS assistance not more.
@SamuelJoaodaSuica THAT IS WHAT AN AMPLIFIER RAY IS. its generating the wave generated by the moon. hence its a fake moon. vegeta needed less assistance. he didnt have a tail so looking at the actual moon wasnt an option. goku needed to have his tial pulled out then sent to earth then have pans tears make him regain his senses. vegeta needed only a fake moon machine.
That's not how I interpreted your first comment. It sounded to me like Bulma created a Fake moon similar to how Goku's space ship created a fake moon for Gohan when he was training with Piccolo before the arrival of Vegeta and Nappa...
Read your comment again and you will see how vague its message is...
With this i'll stop commenting, this guy seems to be trying to just get people to talk to him Reminds me of Piccolo from TFS abridged @1moblin2 stop replying to him and let him keep trying to get some social activity outta these stupid arguments
@054martinm You act like they are different. They write it cuz they don't want a regular job cuz it's a fun way to make a living. That's why he extended it, cuz he could live with it and take it till it dries out. He wanted to make a living, shounen wanted it too.
It's not that hard a discussion, he continued cuz he could get money off of it so he pulled out random ideas.
if he so great how come he was getting his ass handed to him in most of the fight? hell broly handled piccolo goku gohan vegata and trunks no problem. oh yeah and the thing i posted on here about brolys power level i googled. its hard to say for sure how high his power level cause different sources say different things, but he handled piccolo goku gohan vegata and trunks no problem.
@box1234544455 hatychiack also handed goku gohan vegeta trunks piccolo no problem. he was hit by a final flash and just blinked like nothing happened. goku punched him in the face and nothing happened. they could not do a thing to hatchiyack.
@054martinm hmm i like how you dont bite my head of for my opinion thats very mature. i thank you for that atleast. there are also some other things about broly ive noticed. like when hes beat in battle near death his power increases more than the average saiyan as far as i see on my trading cards. they say his last recorded power level was 300,000,000 tho. that was in movie 8 i believe same as super gohan 2 in volume 19. in the first broly movie it was it was lower than hatchiyacks tho
@box1234544455 but the last power level recorded its supposedly higher they say. broly in the first movie was 50,000,000 and hatchiyacks is 55,000,000? but you cant always trust resources. he very well could have been more powerful than broly was in brolys first appearance. but not in movie 8 from what im seeing
SERIOUSLY GUYS DONT ARGUE WITH @054martinm most of his facts are twisted to support his claims(obviously only children do that) and to help support his claims even further he adds facts that EVERYONE KNOWS to add validity to his points even though said Facts have no bearing on the Topic at hand....DUDE YOU REALLY NEED TO STOP!!!
@pakl123456 wrong. broly is the strongest. he's incible & is unstopable. broly will fuck everyone up with out trying. now shut up trolling me DBZ nerd
@MrWolframagnum super 17 i just don't get why everyone thinks that broly is invincible sure he took out goku and the rest of the Z-fighters but they were much weaker back than.
@MrWolframagnum super 17 is like god and brolys like an ant. 17 was fighting against majuub, ssj2 gt goku, ssj2 gohan, trunks, goten, and ssj2 vegeta. and they couldnt even scratch him
Bio Brolly IS A CLONE OF BROLY... This has already been made clear in the movie... They made BIO BROLY from the DNA that they discovered from Broly... BIO BROLY IS NOT BROLY no matter how similar they were... This has already been established...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica exactly. its a perfect clone. its his powers, his personality, his genetic construct. and the scientists said they had actually made him BETTER. the ONLY reason he was destroyed was acid
Ok imma stop arguing with you, you prove that you dont understand or think about anything, I'd give that the scientists say that they "Improved" the Broly DNA , but the Bio Broly clone didnt have the Saiyan energy that kept rising and was losing to android 18 and goten and trunks while the original pawned Goten,Trunks, Gohan, Videl and Krillin at once -__- android 18 was weaker than super Vegeta and the original Broly beat him with ease soo...
@Radripper5 NEITHER DID BROLY. theres no evidence brolys energy "kept rising" at all. and no bio broly was completely unfazed by any attack the kids were throwing at him. and keep in mind the kids stated they were much stronger than last time.
Yes there was...Goku and Vegeta both said "His power just keeps rising" in the middle of fighting him!!! what kind of guy starts an argument about a show he doesnt really watch?!!
They said the same thing About Majin Buu When he first appeared. They said Majin Buu could tap into "a bottom less Reserve" (aka INFINITE) of Power. That would have implied that Majin Buu could raise his ki at will to infinity if he needed it, but that wasnt true now was it? Goku and Vegeta only said that about Broly because they were in shock and had never met such a powerful fighter before. Plus the Ki increase was from power that Broly already had achieved before coming to Earth
@054martinm Watch the show idiot! You dont even know anything about DBZ and youre trying to debate. Broly DOMINATES all of your favorite characters with EASE! OWNED!
@BrolysNumber1Fan Broly's weaker than the SSJ2 form. Sure, he was stronger when they were all only super saiyans and not much more. If it were Gohan in his second form facing Broly, it would've gone the way the fight with Cell did.
Nope, that is still debatable... He was not a SSJ 2 the way he was against Cell, He was actually a very weak SSJ 2, and if he had the same power he had against Cell, he would have annihilated Broly... Same goes with Dabura...
No he doesn't... You shut up and watch the show... You are the one whose looking like an idiot write now... Tell me, why do you enjoy sucking Broly's dick so much??? Is your homoerotic love for Broly so great that you are in denial that Broly IS WEAK compared to the strongest DBZ characters???
There is no evidence that Broly's energy keeps rising... Broly's so called "LSSJ" form is nothing more than a Mutated SSJ form that is comparable in power to the average SSJ 2, more or less...
The reason you thought Broly was getting stronger was because Broly likes to Bully and taunt his enemies. Broly was very powerful when he first appeared, but I don't believe he gained that much power when he returned and fought Gohan. Broly was just strong for his time, that's all...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Actually and im not trying to start an argument or anything but His energy DOES indeed Rise So that A: he's never tired B: He can pump about HOW much ENERgy into his attacks and C) broly even showed His energy rise/burst in his first movie and also in his second movie in the form of a Ki burst/increase in his ssj1 form But still believe ehat you wan't to believe i won't stop You ^_^.
I saw what he did in the first movie, and I didn't see any energy being replenished or any ki rising. The ki increase was part of the power he had all along... Broly likes to toy with his enemies so he doesn't use full power if he doesn't have to, but the Z warriors were damaging him so he had to tap into more of his power, but it's not like he was getting Zenkais Left and Right, that power was already usable, he just wasn't using it... Broly's power doesn't RISE just like that...
Yeah, BUT he was NOT A PERFECT CLONE... He was actually quite defective as one can see once he turns like a swamp monster... And he was not killed by Acid, in fact, the acid made him stronger... he was killed by salt water... Salt water was what killed him... The whole Island where the Factory/Lab was located was surrounded by salt water, and the HEROES used the salt water to kill Bio Brolly completely...
The scientists were wrong. Bio Broly was not better than Broly after all...
@SamuelJoaodaSuica the acid made him weaker. the fact that thre acid mixed with water caused him to harden. then the kids killed him by shattering him. and lol at calling the people who created him wrong. did you write the movie?
They said the same thing about Mecha Frieza. The scientists said he was better than the original organic form, however he stood absolutely no chance against Trunks who is supposed to be close in power to Goku when he first turned SSJ on Namek
The point is that characters in DBZ do make false statements once in a while unless they are considered "wise" or "all knowing"
Why do you think people debate which Buu is strongest? It's because of what charachters say that causes confusion
Stop Arguing with @054martinm he obviously has no real evidence to support claims, he's just one of those guys who make stuff up to make himself seem knowledgeable,In the Hatchiyack movie Goku himself said that Hatchiyack MAY be stronger than Broly BUT the 15 seconds thing is a BIG weakness, the same guys who were made into Broly's bitches beat Hatchiyack with their signatures that normally didnt beat Broly
No Goku states "this guy MAY be stronger than broly but......" that was Goku's real words, he didn't say that "Base Hatchiyack is stronger than Broly" again i say If you're gonna argue something at least use facts you stupid prick, it's obvious from the dislikes that most fans agree Broly would pawn Hatchiyack and i didnt even dislike this video but i think so too
@Radripper5 look if he was nowhgere near as strong, then goku couldnt have compared the two. at the very least base hatchiyack is broly's equal and better in every othetr aspect like intelligence and fighting skil since hachiyack is the accumalated knowledge of all tsufurus. and the whole "weakness" didnt rally help the z fighters much till they figured it out.
oh my you're really against Broly, Broly's intelligence never came up as an issue, his combat abilities and knowledge in battle was just as good as anyone's...watch his movies again, the Z fighters beat hatchiyack because of his weakness, Broly not "being able to figure out Hatchiyack's Weakness" isnt an issue, he's never let up an attack so you think he'd sit back and let Hatchiyack charge?!!!
@Radripper5 ive seen no evidence that broly has combat ability and knowledge. so yes its an issue. goku, a fighting genius took many minutes of fihgting him, to finally realise somethign was wrong. not even piccolo and vegeta noticed. so yes in dbz its a cliche stable to sit back and let your opponent charge up. see cell vs virtually anyone. see vegeta vs virtually anyone
So i take it you didnt watch any of Broly's movies, all you did was see the trailers or something since you've said that, wow Goku was the one to collect all of their energy against Broly as well as beat all the other villains so again i dont see your point in saying it took Goku's Genius to beat Hatchiyack since Goku usually is the one to do the job
@Radripper5 but he didnt collect it all. the z fighters had already been brought to near death and were in base form. whereas against hatchiyack it took all their full powers merged into one giant blast to defeat him
WTF does future trunks have to do with anything?! ah and future trunks,Gohan, Goku,Vegeta and piccolo were getting trounced by broly and unlike Hatchiyack, all their power combined(which they didnt actually use all of theirs, just their strongest attacks) could only knock out Broly
That's only because Broly was THAT much more powerful than all of them, but his power does not just "keep rising"... That is a fan myth... Broly was just REALLY strong for his time... He is like a Big built Human being in Real Life who gets muscles without working out too much coz it's in his DNA... Well Broly is the fictional Saiyan equivalent of a Genetically Supirior Human being... However that does not mean that his potential his higher than Vegeta's or Goku's... NO EVIDENCE...
@Radripper5 it wasnt all their power. their strongest attacks AMPLIFY their ki levels. as seen when goku fights raditz and his ki rises when he tries kamehameha. and they had been restored to fuill power by gohans senzus unlike when they gave their near death base form powers to a weakened goku.
Ignore @054martinm he really cant let things go He's making shit up and twisting facts to try and support his claim that Hatchiyack is better than Broly, Hatchiyack did the 15 second charge up 3 times and couldnt get the Job done against Vegeta,Trunks,Gohan,Piccolo and Goku who Broly whipped like horses how the HELL could he finish Broly off?!! Broly just keeps coming so the 15 second charge up....HORRIBLE Disadvantage!!!! one Gigantic meteor would end him in that 15 seconds
@Radripper5 i know right? that troll 054martinm is so annoying. he does't even know what he's talking about. he threatning comments are ridiculosly not making any sence to no one & that guy has been on this vid trolling everyone. i think 05martinim is an retarded autistic person playing on youtube. he really needs to get a life & grow up. thanks so much for knowing that troll is wrong about everything
@1moblin2 threatening? i havent threatened anyone. and if you have so much of a life that you sit around cussing peopel out on youtube then maybe you are no better. and how am i wrong about eveyrthing? what was i wrong about?
WTF?!! now i know you're just some loser fan boy!!!! you send me to a video with the name (Hatchiyak goes super Hatchiyack...and that's what you use as your source?!! watch the original FULL movie only released in Japan before you go watch a clipping a fan did and tried to come up with BS to make it sound cool, it was how Hatchiyack ORIGINALLY looked when he absorbed enough power you Turd!!)
@054martinm shut the fuck up u old ass man. broly rules eveyone. now fuck off troll. u wrong bitch. u stupid ass troll harassing people. get a life u fat ass old man DBZ fanboy motha fucking bitch
lol who doesn't enjoy Broly as a villain?!! everyone loves a good villain, loved Buu, wasn't a fan of cell since he told future trunks "i'm gonna suck you up" and frieza seemed a bit feminine and also i still didnt fully consider vegeta a good guy
@Radripper5 haha! buu sucking people up sounded funny. yep everyone dors need a good villan sometimes. oh & dont worry i actually like fighting troll. i have been fight troll wars since 2010. i actually enjoy fight. dont worry man. iam gonna destroy that 054martinm hateful noob.
@Radripper5 me. hes overrated, dumb and one dimnsional with the single worst motivation for doing what hes doing ive ever seen in fiction. i like GOOD villains. freeza, king piccolo, cell.
@1moblin2 see? im not the troll because im not spouting endless insults and swear words at people. you are.and im pretty sure i have a life since right now im studying for a college exam. how about you?
And he's still going at it...i'm done arguing with some uneducated nerd....it's one thing to be arguing about an anime you know, but it's obvious he's just a little fan boy who just recently discovered DBZ, his info is coming from fan made videos
@Radripper5 whoa! that troll 054martinm really is still on this vdeo harassing people. i feel ur pain man. that guy is nothing but a super nerd. i hate that troll 054martinm so much that i decide to join the fight. dont worry man iam gonna help u to fuck that troll up
Nah...i realised that he figured out that he was wrong, the problem now is that he's been spreading his "facts" to everyone who's watched this video and if he admits he's wrong now well it wouldnt help his pride much(not that a guy who goes on videos on youtube to argue false anime information had much to begin with)
Everything actually, you say Hatchiyack base is stronger than broly, all you have to back it up is Goku saying "He MAY(the emphasis is to show that he said it in an unsure tone) be stronger than broly but...." your deduction skills aren't that good and yet you're challenging everyone with flawed logic arguing an anime that you really know nothing about
@Radripper5 you missed the context and pattern of speaking. he said "he may be stronger but..". you know how people will say "oh you might be smarter than me but...i am invulnerable!" goku was saying "yep this guy might be strongest but...he has a weakness".
Dude i've spent part of my life in Japan(you read something subbed by the gaming company and that's all you have to go by) you know how often they get the context and words messed up?!
Your knowledge is what's flawed..dont RECENTLY watch an anime guys have watched for their childhood, most of the content now is watered down and you really dont seem to know much about what you're saying to begin with
lol and you proud of that? proves you're a child....find something else to do before you talk about an anime who's author originally stopped production of BEFORE you started watching
close...i'm a 24 year old who works for atari, but dont mind me, you could know more, stop filling ma nephew's inbox with notifications to this factless argument now...or at least tell me how to make sure it doesnt show up on the main channel
@Radripper5 actually i didnt make anything up. i didnt twist anything. you are the only one twisting shit. broly couldnt get the job done vs the z fighters either. both fighters beat 4 ssjs and piccolo within an inch of their lives and had to be saved by senzus. broly was defeatred by a punch from weakened goku with near dead base saiyans powers. hatchiyack was barely taken out by the strongest attacks of 4 fully powered super saiyans.
WTH?! so you're saying goku couldnt exploit the weakness...lets concentrate on that for a second, I dont care that Goku couldnt beat him on his own, Goku couldnt have beaten Broly on his own either, in fact the warriors gave Goku ALL their power so that's the only reason he beat...no KNOCKED out Broly long enough for the Comet to do the rest and surprise, unlike Hatchiyack Broly survived
@Radripper5 i said he couldnt exploit it on his own at least. and no its impossible for them to give goku all their power because they didnt have all their power to begin with. they were lyinhg on the ground, dying and in base form. so its no surprise broly survived because he was hit with nowhere near the kind oif power hatchiyack was.
Lol at least this is better than an AMV.
808raised 10 hours ago
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roberto456xz 15 hours ago
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MegaProximamente 16 hours ago
this was epic.FAIIILLLLLLLLLLLL! THIS SUCKED
Omarheartsgames 1 day ago
NOOB HATCHYACK IS THE 2ND STRONGEST VILLAIN IN DBZ RETARD
sup3rc00lal3x 1 day ago
@sup3rc00lal3x
Hatchiyack is not the 2nd strongest villain you "RETARD". Hirudegarn, Majin Buu and Janemba are ALL far stronger than Hatchiyak...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
hichyack was fighting all of them at once but they keped coming at him because they wer not nearly as hurt as they wer yen they fight broly he was beating the heck out of goko gohan TEEN trunkns and had vegeta giving up trembiling in fear come on vegeta was scared thats saying something all at the same time the only one that keped coming back up was goko (broly is stronger than goko for some people that think goko is stronger)
thefredrick08 1 day ago
@thefredrick08 Goku IS stronger than Broly. Broly had less power than the SSJ2 form, but at the time i'll admit Goku was weaker. The only reason Broly had Vegeta trembling in fear is because he was a Saiyan of legend. Vegeta wouldn't let anyone besides another saiyan strike that kind of fear into him. Even Frieza only made him frustrated, not terrified.
Also, Broly beat on them a lot longer than hatchiyak, that's why they came back. Recall they did it with Broly too.
18ebrew 1 day ago
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@thefredrick08 vegeta is never scared of anyone except fereeza. that was just the writers of movie 7 being poorly understanding idiots of their own characters. goku advanced to higher levels, broly didnt. thats why gkuos stornger.
054martinm 1 day ago
@thefredrick08
hmmm hatchyack was stated to be strongr than broy deal with it
pakl123456 19 hours ago
no es super sayan 2 es super sayan legendario
XxXJuLkOXxX 1 day ago
Hatchiyack would beat Broly im sorry but that is the truth. I remember goku saying that Hatchiyack is even stronger then Broly.
ZetsubouYami 2 days ago
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This F!@# switched profiles to try and argue his points?!!! i'm done, this guy's now denying what the characters themselves said and giving his own spin on why they probably said it, not even gonna tag him cause he'd just switch again and "tag his other profile" to better argue an invalid premise, basically the most recent bs is
Goku: Broly just keeps getting stronger
Vegeta: Is his power increasing?!!!
Stupid DBZ Troll : No they dont know anything, Broly's power level rising is a myth
Me: -__-
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5
Uhh, dude, I'm not 054marinm... Actually, I really hate that guy... He's kind of a troll, but the only thing I agree with is that Broly's power does not increase infinitely... I am aware of what Goku and Vegeta said, but I just don't see any evidence that it's true... Yes, Goku and Vegeta sensed Broly's ki increasing, BUT HOW THE HELL does that mean it can grow INFINITELY all of a sudden??? There is no Proof of this at all, and if anything I only see high resilience from Broly...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@Radripper5
Uhh, dude, I'm not 054marinm... Actually, I really hate that guy... He's kind of a troll, but the only thing I agree with is that Broly's power does not increase infinitely... I am aware of what Goku and Vegeta said, but I just don't see any evidence that it's true... Yes, Goku and Vegeta sensed Broly's ki increasing, BUT HOW THE HELL does that mean it can grow INFINITELY all of a sudden??? There is no Proof of this at all, and if anything I only see high resilience from Broly...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
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@Radripper5
Uhh, dude, I'm not 054marinm... Actually, I really hate that guy... He's kind of a troll, but the only thing I agree with is that Broly's power does not increase infinitely... I am aware of what Goku and Vegeta said, but I just don't see any evidence that it's true... Yes, Goku and Vegeta sensed Broly's ki increasing, BUT HOW THE HELL does that mean it can grow INFINITELY all of a sudden??? There is no Proof of this at all, and if anything I only see high resilience from Broly...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@Radripper5
And in case you haven't noticed, I have had many conversations with 054martinm before and if you ever go and read any of them you will realize that me and him disagree on almost everything... The idiot likes DBGT and considers it AS official as DBZ and DB while I hate DBGT and argue (CORRECTLY) that DBGT is nothing more than a side story and is not an official continuation of DBZ.
The only thing me and him agree on is that Broly's power doesn't rise infinitely. That's ridiculous
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica that is ludicrous. if it wasnt an official continuation they wouldnt have made it. gt is part of toeis dragonball universe and toriyama loved watching it and worked on it but felt safe in letting toei work on most of it.
054martinm 2 days ago 3
@054martinm Why do you watch Broly-related videos if you hate him so much? Every video you are arguing with someone about him. If you haven't noticed, you're not going to change anyone's opinion.
assyfartknocker 1 day ago
@assyfartknocker
and if you haven't noticed, he's arguing about Broly because some people are Stupid enough to believe that Broly's power rises infinitely without explanation or any proof and thus that makes Broly "The strongest DBZ character ever" which is the dumbest bullshit I have ever heard in a DBZ related topic...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica I know what he argues about, I've debated with him several times. My point is, he isn't going to sway anyone's opinion anytime soon, so why bother. Also, having unlimited ki isn't a far-fetched concept in DBZ seeing as the Androids have it. The reason people believe Broly has a constant supply of energy is because he hasn't shown a hint of fatigue for the amount of energy he uses (he can charge huge amount of energy blasts with small effort) followed by the
assyfartknocker 1 day ago
@assyfartknocker
No, The androids don't have unlimited Ki. That is also a myth. They have "unlimited energy/Stamina" to live without having to shut down because of the lack of energy... In other words they never "run out of batteries". And 17 and 18 in particular are Cyborgs, not androids, and their natural Ki is just amplified by their cybernetic attachments, but they are Human in just about every other way...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica "My ki is overflowing" comment he made in movie 8. This could imply many things such as he doesn't have good control over his power, or that his ki increased to the point of overflowing without him knowing. Until we can understand Japanese instead relying on translated subs or misleading dubs, this debate will go on for quite a while. Tons of things are left for debate in DBZ, it's a technique the author uses.
assyfartknocker 1 day ago
@assyfartknocker
It is far fetched because the Androids were said to have "unlimited supply of Energy (STAMINA NOT KI)" meaning they would "never run out of batteries" and have to be shut down due to lack of power. Like when your iPhone dies out kinda...
Anyway, Kid Buu also has infinate stamina. He never gets tired or battle weary... Now I suppose it's possible that Broly may have a very high resilience, however he does not have EVER increasing Ki as Broly fans claim he does...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Dr. Gero said they have unlimited energy, eternal life, and no aura to be tracked. The word energy can be interpreted in different ways seeing as ki is referred too as energy in the series several times.
Besides, unlike Buu and the Androids who were created with specific perks, Broly is a organic being, meaning if his stamina were to remain at a constant level he would need ki to do so, which implies unlimited ki as well.
assyfartknocker 1 day ago
@assyfartknocker
Buu is technically organic as well... The only difference is that Buu is "Magical" however he is still organic... When Goku and Vegeta are inside Buu, it's made quite clear that Buu is biological and organic. He is a natural being and not a machine... The only thing that makes buu special is that he is "magical"...
And in the case of the androids, unlimited ki means that they never die out due to a lack of energy (aka they don't age or die out of power)
SamuelJoaodaSuica 22 hours ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica In that sense then yes Buu is organic. The point I was trying to get across was that Buu's body doesn't follow the same rules of other organic beings due to him being created with specific perks or "magic". This would explain how Buu's incredible durability and stamina can remain constant even if his ki drains while Broly can't.
assyfartknocker 16 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
I think I agree with you, and our misunderstanding is based on a differing idea of what "Infinitely rising Ki" means...
Ok, So what I mean my "Ki" is powerlevel... I am assuming that people think that Broly's Powerlevel rises for NO REASON with absolutely no training or hard work, WITHOUT LIMIT! So if Broly were frozen in a Glacier for a million years and then released, his powerlevel would be like "Infinity"... WHICH IS STUPID AND IMPOSSIBLE
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SamuelJoaodaSuica 15 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
(Continuation)
You seem to be suggesting that Broly's Ki (energy/life force) remains constant and doesn't drop. I actually agree with this. I don't believe Broly has infinite Stamina like Buu does, but I think Broly is so durable that you wouldn't really notice a difference... Broly is not magical, so I would find it hard to believe that he has infinite stamina like Buu, however He is so durable it's almost like he does have it... So I agree with you on that note...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 15 hours ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Yes Broly's ki remaining constant is a somewhat reasonable concept opposed to it infinitely rising like you said, but it's hard to know for sure. Based off of movie 8 and movie 10, the battle went in Broly's favor completely until the very end, meaning Broly has not had an adequate challenge that would reveal his limits. I believe if Broly were fighting a SSJ2 Goku in movie 10 rather than SSJ2 Gohan, we would have seen a much different Broly.
assyfartknocker 14 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
ssj2 goku would beat broly
pakl123456 7 hours ago
@pakl123456 Indeed, but as I stated earlier if Broly actually trained instead of relying on his raw power to defeat his opponents, I'm sure he could go up against a SSJ2 Goku in due time.
assyfartknocker 6 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
if he would trained he would have been a ssj3 level even stronger lol but its all assumptions and yeah ssj2 goku would beat broly considering the fact that broly was beaten by a kamehameha which was weaker than ssj2 goku
pakl123456 6 hours ago
@pakl123456 Yeah he would have most likely lost to SSJ2 Goku, but I see his defeat in both movie 8 and movie 10 as mere plot device that were used just for the good guys to win. In both movies he owned them the entire movie until the very end due to something idiotic. Movie 8, he was defeated by one punch from Goku who gathered energy from half dead base form saiyans. Movie 10 a half dead base kid trunks managed to block Broly's ki access to his Omega Blaster, leading to his defeat.
assyfartknocker 6 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
yeah toei doesnt have much of a logic lol if you noiced movie 8 broly was ebaten just like perfect cell and movie 10 broly was beaten just like SPC
pakl123456 5 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
I think when Broly said that line, he was just having problems controlling his own power. Look at how bulky he looks! His pupils are missing, I mean he looks like he has gone MAD with power. Honestly I think when he said that he said it because he was having difficulty controlling his own power. Even Frieza had to create his 4 transformation to supress his power because his Natural form had too much power for him to control (though he looked more in control than Broly ever did)
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Yeah I sort of thought that as well. It's like his LSSJ transformation is a maxed-out Super Saiyan form much similar to a Ultra Super Saiyan, but due to his genetics he lacks the disadvantages of a USSJ such as no speed loss. He was just gifted with huge raw power, if he actually trained like Goku and the others and refined his energy, I'm sure he could outclass a SSJ2 Goku. SSJ3 has him completely beat however haha
assyfartknocker 1 day ago
@assyfartknocker
I agree, however I don't think Broly has the discipline to train. His genetics give him so much raw power that he cannot control it, and training himself in a disciplined manner would be thus IMPOSSIBLE for Broly. His mental strength is just not strong enough to control himself like Goku and Vegeta do. Mentally, Goku and Vegeta are FAR superior to Broly...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 22 hours ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica True. He lost any remaining sanity he had left in movie 10, seen when he couldn't tell the difference between Goten and Goku. Most villians behave this way though, they are either gifted with a high power level than the others around them or given power; leading them to believe they are simply superior to everyone else to begin with. Even more so for Broly seeing as how saiyans are typically born with violent tendencies and he never learned to control them.
assyfartknocker 17 hours ago
@assyfartknocker
its easy he only released energy since he was not used to his LSSJ form
pakl123456 19 hours ago
@054martinm
Regardless, Toriyama himself called GT a "side story" which made it no more "official" to DBZ canon than the movies were.
Even in Dragonball Online, Toriyama had more involvement than he did in DBGT, which I think says a lot...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
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@SamuelJoaodaSuica not really. he had the same tpye of involement in both. which is designs and art.
054martinm 1 day ago
@Radripper5 right..and thats only because you are using english dub because ive never seen anything suggesting goku saying that in the real dbz
054martinm 2 days ago 4
ASI O MAS PIRATOTA!!
MegaUndertaker19 2 days ago
Broly would rip this faggot in half
BrolysNumber1Fan 2 days ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan
Pink Dildo Man would rape Broly up the ass... Broly is weak as shit compared to Pink Dildo Man!!!
Pink Dildo Man >>> Broly
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@1moblin2 You really still arguing with him?! he discovered DBZ in the age of GT...he doesnt know better...
Radripper5 2 days ago
da video had shitty graphics. but i likes it. I KNEW BROLY WOULD WIN! hatchiyak is shit. he a dick head
5MRORANGE 3 days ago 6
To that one idiot who says Broly is the strongest in DBZ... NO HE IS NOT... Broly is fucking WEAK compared to the strongest DBZ characters...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 3 days ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica no he's the strongest sayian
ArthaxtaDaVince777 2 days ago
@ArthaxtaDaVince777 ssj4 goku is the strongest saiyan
054martinm 2 days ago
@ArthaxtaDaVince777 ssj4 goku is the strongest saiyan
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
Wrong again actually, Vegeta matches him in the end(and as we've learned when Vegeta reaches the same level as Goku his power slightly surpasses) and technically their fusion still counts as a saiyan so....
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 fusion is two people not one, and theres no proof ssj4 vegeta > fp ssj4 goku
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
OH my IM SO GLAD YOU JUST SAID THAT...what proof do you have that ssj4 Goku is stronger than SSJ4 Vegeta?! And technically as vegito and Gogeta's said....We are two Saiyans made 1, so once again, no validity in your claim
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 well 1. hes used it for alot longer and surpassed his previous limitations (as stated by z fighters). 2. he's used it in battle so many times that its almost instinct to use it. and we all know its awkward using a form for the very first time.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
In fact, it's more likely that SSJ 4 Goku is more powerful than SSJ 4 Vegeta because Goku achieved SSJ 4 naturally with his OWN power while Vegeta had to use assistance from an artificial machine to go SSJ 4 (The Blutzwave amplifier machine that Bulma made)...
There is no proof that one is stronger than the other, but this in itself suggests that Goku probably was stronger than Vegeta and had been so throughout DBGT until that point...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica both needed assistance. vegeta didnt need anyone to make him get control back because he already had control. bulma used a fake moon generator which is exactly the same as uising a real moon. so vegeta achieved it the same way goku did but with LESS assistance not more.
054martinm 2 days ago 2
@054martinm
NOPE... COMPLETELY WRONG...
Bulma did not use a "fake moon generator"... Did you pull that one out of you ass???
Bulma used a Blutz wave aplifier ray that shocked Vegeta into turning Golden Ozaruu and then Super Saiyan 4... Here is the Proof:
youtube.com/watch?v=qTIQ_eBgzPM
Vegeta DID NOT achieve it the same way Goku did, and HE NEEDED MORE ASSISTANCE, not less than goku...
Check Mate...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica THAT IS WHAT AN AMPLIFIER RAY IS. its generating the wave generated by the moon. hence its a fake moon. vegeta needed less assistance. he didnt have a tail so looking at the actual moon wasnt an option. goku needed to have his tial pulled out then sent to earth then have pans tears make him regain his senses. vegeta needed only a fake moon machine.
054martinm 1 day ago
@054martinm
That's not how I interpreted your first comment. It sounded to me like Bulma created a Fake moon similar to how Goku's space ship created a fake moon for Gohan when he was training with Piccolo before the arrival of Vegeta and Nappa...
Read your comment again and you will see how vague its message is...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 22 hours ago
@ArthaxtaDaVince777
Yes, Goku is the strongest Pure Blooded Saiyan
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
With this i'll stop commenting, this guy seems to be trying to just get people to talk to him Reminds me of Piccolo from TFS abridged @1moblin2 stop replying to him and let him keep trying to get some social activity outta these stupid arguments
Radripper5 3 days ago
@054martinm You act like they are different. They write it cuz they don't want a regular job cuz it's a fun way to make a living. That's why he extended it, cuz he could live with it and take it till it dries out. He wanted to make a living, shounen wanted it too.
It's not that hard a discussion, he continued cuz he could get money off of it so he pulled out random ideas.
TheReadySetShout 3 days ago
These are so gay.
Tylerisuber 3 days ago
if he so great how come he was getting his ass handed to him in most of the fight? hell broly handled piccolo goku gohan vegata and trunks no problem. oh yeah and the thing i posted on here about brolys power level i googled. its hard to say for sure how high his power level cause different sources say different things, but he handled piccolo goku gohan vegata and trunks no problem.
box1234544455 3 days ago
@box1234544455 hatychiack also handed goku gohan vegeta trunks piccolo no problem. he was hit by a final flash and just blinked like nothing happened. goku punched him in the face and nothing happened. they could not do a thing to hatchiyack.
054martinm 3 days ago
@054martinm hmm i like how you dont bite my head of for my opinion thats very mature. i thank you for that atleast. there are also some other things about broly ive noticed. like when hes beat in battle near death his power increases more than the average saiyan as far as i see on my trading cards. they say his last recorded power level was 300,000,000 tho. that was in movie 8 i believe same as super gohan 2 in volume 19. in the first broly movie it was it was lower than hatchiyacks tho
box1234544455 2 days ago
@box1234544455 but the last power level recorded its supposedly higher they say. broly in the first movie was 50,000,000 and hatchiyacks is 55,000,000? but you cant always trust resources. he very well could have been more powerful than broly was in brolys first appearance. but not in movie 8 from what im seeing
box1234544455 2 days ago
@box1234544455 who do you think will just let him live and heal when hes near death though? not too many people.
054martinm 2 days ago
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@box1234544455 who do you think will just let him live and heal when hes near death though? not too many people.
054martinm 2 days ago
SERIOUSLY GUYS DONT ARGUE WITH @054martinm most of his facts are twisted to support his claims(obviously only children do that) and to help support his claims even further he adds facts that EVERYONE KNOWS to add validity to his points even though said Facts have no bearing on the Topic at hand....DUDE YOU REALLY NEED TO STOP!!!
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5 no nothing is twisted. i only call things as i see them.
054martinm 3 days ago
@pakl123456 wrong. broly is the strongest. he's incible & is unstopable. broly will fuck everyone up with out trying. now shut up trolling me DBZ nerd
1moblin2 4 days ago
@1moblin2 haha and how is he the strongest and unstoppable if hes lost every single fight hes ever been in and in hell?
054martinm 3 days ago
wtf was tht 1 broly should of won becouse he is the legendar ssj 2 never runs out of energy just gains more
broly71000 4 days ago
@broly71000 im a big broly fan but broly can't defeat him no matter what.
MrRexable 3 days ago
@MrRexable what about brolly vs super 17
MrWolframagnum 3 days ago
@MrWolframagnum super 17 i just don't get why everyone thinks that broly is invincible sure he took out goku and the rest of the Z-fighters but they were much weaker back than.
MrRexable 3 days ago
@MrRexable true what if broly can become ssj3
MrWolframagnum 3 days ago
@MrWolframagnum super 17 is like god and brolys like an ant. 17 was fighting against majuub, ssj2 gt goku, ssj2 gohan, trunks, goten, and ssj2 vegeta. and they couldnt even scratch him
054martinm 3 days ago
@054martinm even if broly can become ssj3
MrWolframagnum 3 days ago
@broly71000 wrong. he can and does decrease in power, not increase. and legendary is a title and doesnt mean much.
054martinm 3 days ago
@054martinm
nope... you are wrong...
Bio Brolly IS A CLONE OF BROLY... This has already been made clear in the movie... They made BIO BROLY from the DNA that they discovered from Broly... BIO BROLY IS NOT BROLY no matter how similar they were... This has already been established...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 3 days ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica exactly. its a perfect clone. its his powers, his personality, his genetic construct. and the scientists said they had actually made him BETTER. the ONLY reason he was destroyed was acid
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
Ok imma stop arguing with you, you prove that you dont understand or think about anything, I'd give that the scientists say that they "Improved" the Broly DNA , but the Bio Broly clone didnt have the Saiyan energy that kept rising and was losing to android 18 and goten and trunks while the original pawned Goten,Trunks, Gohan, Videl and Krillin at once -__- android 18 was weaker than super Vegeta and the original Broly beat him with ease soo...
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 NEITHER DID BROLY. theres no evidence brolys energy "kept rising" at all. and no bio broly was completely unfazed by any attack the kids were throwing at him. and keep in mind the kids stated they were much stronger than last time.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
Yes there was...Goku and Vegeta both said "His power just keeps rising" in the middle of fighting him!!! what kind of guy starts an argument about a show he doesnt really watch?!!
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5
They said the same thing About Majin Buu When he first appeared. They said Majin Buu could tap into "a bottom less Reserve" (aka INFINITE) of Power. That would have implied that Majin Buu could raise his ki at will to infinity if he needed it, but that wasnt true now was it? Goku and Vegeta only said that about Broly because they were in shock and had never met such a powerful fighter before. Plus the Ki increase was from power that Broly already had achieved before coming to Earth
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@Radripper5 where in the japanese version did they say that? ive neevr seen any evidence they said that in the true original language.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
no...keep in mind that they really didnt say that, they said things will be different this time around
Radripper5 2 days ago
@054martinm Brolys energy rises infinitely and he would kill Hatchifag with 1 punch
BrolysNumber1Fan 2 days ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan
No it wouldn't. Because Broly's energy DOES NOT rise infinitely... hahaha good joke though, I even smiled a little at that one...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan where is the proof it rises "infinitely"?
054martinm 2 days ago 3
@054martinm Watch the show idiot! You dont even know anything about DBZ and youre trying to debate. Broly DOMINATES all of your favorite characters with EASE! OWNED!
BrolysNumber1Fan 1 day ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan Broly's weaker than the SSJ2 form. Sure, he was stronger when they were all only super saiyans and not much more. If it were Gohan in his second form facing Broly, it would've gone the way the fight with Cell did.
18ebrew 1 day ago
@18ebrew Nope Gohan was SSJ2 when Broly dominated him
BrolysNumber1Fan 1 day ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan
Nope, that is still debatable... He was not a SSJ 2 the way he was against Cell, He was actually a very weak SSJ 2, and if he had the same power he had against Cell, he would have annihilated Broly... Same goes with Dabura...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica
he was a ssj vs dabura and ssj2 vs broly
pakl123456 19 hours ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan ...what? No he wasn't. :/
18ebrew 1 day ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan ...what? No he wasn't. :/
18ebrew 1 day ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan
so can cell and?
pakl123456 19 hours ago
@18ebrew
movie 10 broly is weaker than sj2 goku nuff said
pakl123456 19 hours ago
@BrolysNumber1Fan
No he doesn't... You shut up and watch the show... You are the one whose looking like an idiot write now... Tell me, why do you enjoy sucking Broly's dick so much??? Is your homoerotic love for Broly so great that you are in denial that Broly IS WEAK compared to the strongest DBZ characters???
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
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@BrolysNumber1Fan lol owned by what? your petulant jabbering?
054martinm 1 day ago
@Radripper5
There is no evidence that Broly's energy keeps rising... Broly's so called "LSSJ" form is nothing more than a Mutated SSJ form that is comparable in power to the average SSJ 2, more or less...
The reason you thought Broly was getting stronger was because Broly likes to Bully and taunt his enemies. Broly was very powerful when he first appeared, but I don't believe he gained that much power when he returned and fought Gohan. Broly was just strong for his time, that's all...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica Actually and im not trying to start an argument or anything but His energy DOES indeed Rise So that A: he's never tired B: He can pump about HOW much ENERgy into his attacks and C) broly even showed His energy rise/burst in his first movie and also in his second movie in the form of a Ki burst/increase in his ssj1 form But still believe ehat you wan't to believe i won't stop You ^_^.
TheUltradon 2 days ago
@TheUltradon
I saw what he did in the first movie, and I didn't see any energy being replenished or any ki rising. The ki increase was part of the power he had all along... Broly likes to toy with his enemies so he doesn't use full power if he doesn't have to, but the Z warriors were damaging him so he had to tap into more of his power, but it's not like he was getting Zenkais Left and Right, that power was already usable, he just wasn't using it... Broly's power doesn't RISE just like that...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@TheUltradon his energy rose for about two seconds then he stopped. theres no evidnece its a constant thing
054martinm 2 days ago 5
@054martinm
Yeah, BUT he was NOT A PERFECT CLONE... He was actually quite defective as one can see once he turns like a swamp monster... And he was not killed by Acid, in fact, the acid made him stronger... he was killed by salt water... Salt water was what killed him... The whole Island where the Factory/Lab was located was surrounded by salt water, and the HEROES used the salt water to kill Bio Brolly completely...
The scientists were wrong. Bio Broly was not better than Broly after all...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@SamuelJoaodaSuica the acid made him weaker. the fact that thre acid mixed with water caused him to harden. then the kids killed him by shattering him. and lol at calling the people who created him wrong. did you write the movie?
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
They said the same thing about Mecha Frieza. The scientists said he was better than the original organic form, however he stood absolutely no chance against Trunks who is supposed to be close in power to Goku when he first turned SSJ on Namek
The point is that characters in DBZ do make false statements once in a while unless they are considered "wise" or "all knowing"
Why do you think people debate which Buu is strongest? It's because of what charachters say that causes confusion
SamuelJoaodaSuica 1 day ago
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@SamuelJoaodaSuica how were the scientists false? trunks wasnt suposed to be close in power to goku. he was far above it.
054martinm 1 day ago
wtf......
Ballde27 4 days ago
@DeadEndScreamer not impressive since gohan was ssj1 and much weaker than 7 years ago
054martinm 4 days ago
0:44 u see goku
pharohyami 4 days ago
man broly would beat the shit out of that motha fucka without even trying. hachiyack is no match for my nigga broly.
1moblin2 4 days ago
@1moblin2 and yet goku states base hatchiyack is stronger than broly.
054martinm 4 days ago
@054martinm well broly is still the strongest
1moblin2 4 days ago
@054martinm BROLY IS MY NIGGA. HE BEATS ALL. END OF STORY. NOW STOP MESSING WITH ME NERD
1moblin2 4 days ago
@1moblin2
Stop Arguing with @054martinm he obviously has no real evidence to support claims, he's just one of those guys who make stuff up to make himself seem knowledgeable,In the Hatchiyack movie Goku himself said that Hatchiyack MAY be stronger than Broly BUT the 15 seconds thing is a BIG weakness, the same guys who were made into Broly's bitches beat Hatchiyack with their signatures that normally didnt beat Broly
Radripper5 3 days ago
@054martinm
No Goku states "this guy MAY be stronger than broly but......" that was Goku's real words, he didn't say that "Base Hatchiyack is stronger than Broly" again i say If you're gonna argue something at least use facts you stupid prick, it's obvious from the dislikes that most fans agree Broly would pawn Hatchiyack and i didnt even dislike this video but i think so too
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5
and do you really think goku would say that for nothing? lo9l base hatchyack was stronger than broly and he had two transformations
pakl123456 3 days ago
@Radripper5 look if he was nowhgere near as strong, then goku couldnt have compared the two. at the very least base hatchiyack is broly's equal and better in every othetr aspect like intelligence and fighting skil since hachiyack is the accumalated knowledge of all tsufurus. and the whole "weakness" didnt rally help the z fighters much till they figured it out.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
oh my you're really against Broly, Broly's intelligence never came up as an issue, his combat abilities and knowledge in battle was just as good as anyone's...watch his movies again, the Z fighters beat hatchiyack because of his weakness, Broly not "being able to figure out Hatchiyack's Weakness" isnt an issue, he's never let up an attack so you think he'd sit back and let Hatchiyack charge?!!!
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 ive seen no evidence that broly has combat ability and knowledge. so yes its an issue. goku, a fighting genius took many minutes of fihgting him, to finally realise somethign was wrong. not even piccolo and vegeta noticed. so yes in dbz its a cliche stable to sit back and let your opponent charge up. see cell vs virtually anyone. see vegeta vs virtually anyone
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
So i take it you didnt watch any of Broly's movies, all you did was see the trailers or something since you've said that, wow Goku was the one to collect all of their energy against Broly as well as beat all the other villains so again i dont see your point in saying it took Goku's Genius to beat Hatchiyack since Goku usually is the one to do the job
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 but he didnt collect it all. the z fighters had already been brought to near death and were in base form. whereas against hatchiyack it took all their full powers merged into one giant blast to defeat him
054martinm 2 days ago 3
@Radripper5 only future trunks kills his opponents as soon as possible.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
WTF does future trunks have to do with anything?! ah and future trunks,Gohan, Goku,Vegeta and piccolo were getting trounced by broly and unlike Hatchiyack, all their power combined(which they didnt actually use all of theirs, just their strongest attacks) could only knock out Broly
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5
That's only because Broly was THAT much more powerful than all of them, but his power does not just "keep rising"... That is a fan myth... Broly was just REALLY strong for his time... He is like a Big built Human being in Real Life who gets muscles without working out too much coz it's in his DNA... Well Broly is the fictional Saiyan equivalent of a Genetically Supirior Human being... However that does not mean that his potential his higher than Vegeta's or Goku's... NO EVIDENCE...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@Radripper5 it wasnt all their power. their strongest attacks AMPLIFY their ki levels. as seen when goku fights raditz and his ki rises when he tries kamehameha. and they had been restored to fuill power by gohans senzus unlike when they gave their near death base form powers to a weakened goku.
054martinm 2 days ago 3
@1moblin2
wrong movie 8 broly doesnt stand a chance
movie 10 broly can give a fight
pakl123456 4 days ago
@1moblin2
Ignore @054martinm he really cant let things go He's making shit up and twisting facts to try and support his claim that Hatchiyack is better than Broly, Hatchiyack did the 15 second charge up 3 times and couldnt get the Job done against Vegeta,Trunks,Gohan,Piccolo and Goku who Broly whipped like horses how the HELL could he finish Broly off?!! Broly just keeps coming so the 15 second charge up....HORRIBLE Disadvantage!!!! one Gigantic meteor would end him in that 15 seconds
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5 i know right? that troll 054martinm is so annoying. he does't even know what he's talking about. he threatning comments are ridiculosly not making any sence to no one & that guy has been on this vid trolling everyone. i think 05martinim is an retarded autistic person playing on youtube. he really needs to get a life & grow up. thanks so much for knowing that troll is wrong about everything
1moblin2 3 days ago
@1moblin2 threatening? i havent threatened anyone. and if you have so much of a life that you sit around cussing peopel out on youtube then maybe you are no better. and how am i wrong about eveyrthing? what was i wrong about?
054martinm 3 days ago
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@054martinm
WTF?!! now i know you're just some loser fan boy!!!! you send me to a video with the name (Hatchiyak goes super Hatchiyack...and that's what you use as your source?!! watch the original FULL movie only released in Japan before you go watch a clipping a fan did and tried to come up with BS to make it sound cool, it was how Hatchiyack ORIGINALLY looked when he absorbed enough power you Turd!!)
Radripper5 3 days ago
@054martinm shut the fuck up u old ass man. broly rules eveyone. now fuck off troll. u wrong bitch. u stupid ass troll harassing people. get a life u fat ass old man DBZ fanboy motha fucking bitch
1moblin2 3 days ago
@1moblin2
lol who doesn't enjoy Broly as a villain?!! everyone loves a good villain, loved Buu, wasn't a fan of cell since he told future trunks "i'm gonna suck you up" and frieza seemed a bit feminine and also i still didnt fully consider vegeta a good guy
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5 haha! buu sucking people up sounded funny. yep everyone dors need a good villan sometimes. oh & dont worry i actually like fighting troll. i have been fight troll wars since 2010. i actually enjoy fight. dont worry man. iam gonna destroy that 054martinm hateful noob.
1moblin2 3 days ago
@Radripper5 me. hes overrated, dumb and one dimnsional with the single worst motivation for doing what hes doing ive ever seen in fiction. i like GOOD villains. freeza, king piccolo, cell.
054martinm 2 days ago
@1moblin2 see? im not the troll because im not spouting endless insults and swear words at people. you are.and im pretty sure i have a life since right now im studying for a college exam. how about you?
054martinm 2 days ago
@1moblin2
And he's still going at it...i'm done arguing with some uneducated nerd....it's one thing to be arguing about an anime you know, but it's obvious he's just a little fan boy who just recently discovered DBZ, his info is coming from fan made videos
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5 whoa! that troll 054martinm really is still on this vdeo harassing people. i feel ur pain man. that guy is nothing but a super nerd. i hate that troll 054martinm so much that i decide to join the fight. dont worry man iam gonna help u to fuck that troll up
1moblin2 3 days ago
@1moblin2
Nah...i realised that he figured out that he was wrong, the problem now is that he's been spreading his "facts" to everyone who's watched this video and if he admits he's wrong now well it wouldnt help his pride much(not that a guy who goes on videos on youtube to argue false anime information had much to begin with)
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5 and what is false?
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
Everything actually, you say Hatchiyack base is stronger than broly, all you have to back it up is Goku saying "He MAY(the emphasis is to show that he said it in an unsure tone) be stronger than broly but...." your deduction skills aren't that good and yet you're challenging everyone with flawed logic arguing an anime that you really know nothing about
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 you missed the context and pattern of speaking. he said "he may be stronger but..". you know how people will say "oh you might be smarter than me but...i am invulnerable!" goku was saying "yep this guy might be strongest but...he has a weakness".
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
Dude i've spent part of my life in Japan(you read something subbed by the gaming company and that's all you have to go by) you know how often they get the context and words messed up?!
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5
But Super Hatchiyack probably was stronger than Broly at that moment in time...
SamuelJoaodaSuica 2 days ago
@1moblin2 how am i harassing people by correcting them on their flawed knoweldge? thats not being a trolll. learn what a troll is.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
Your knowledge is what's flawed..dont RECENTLY watch an anime guys have watched for their childhood, most of the content now is watered down and you really dont seem to know much about what you're saying to begin with
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 recently huh? actually ive been watching z since 2005
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
lol and you proud of that? proves you're a child....find something else to do before you talk about an anime who's author originally stopped production of BEFORE you started watching
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 actually im 19. so much for your child theory.
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
ok so you're a teenager that discovered DBZ in the GT age...not really helping your case
Radripper5 2 days ago
@Radripper5 so what are you then? a 30 year old who followed z from when it first came to america in the form of downloaded subbed episodes?
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm
close...i'm a 24 year old who works for atari, but dont mind me, you could know more, stop filling ma nephew's inbox with notifications to this factless argument now...or at least tell me how to make sure it doesnt show up on the main channel
Radripper5 2 days ago
@054martinm dude i never called u a troll. i just trying to help u defeat that guy is has been harassing u.
1moblin2 2 days ago
@Radripper5 actually i didnt make anything up. i didnt twist anything. you are the only one twisting shit. broly couldnt get the job done vs the z fighters either. both fighters beat 4 ssjs and piccolo within an inch of their lives and had to be saved by senzus. broly was defeatred by a punch from weakened goku with near dead base saiyans powers. hatchiyack was barely taken out by the strongest attacks of 4 fully powered super saiyans.
054martinm 3 days ago
@Radripper5 and no its not a horrible disadvantage. even goku couldnt exploit it very effectively unless combined with his full powered friends
054martinm 3 days ago
@054martinm
WTH?! so you're saying goku couldnt exploit the weakness...lets concentrate on that for a second, I dont care that Goku couldnt beat him on his own, Goku couldnt have beaten Broly on his own either, in fact the warriors gave Goku ALL their power so that's the only reason he beat...no KNOCKED out Broly long enough for the Comet to do the rest and surprise, unlike Hatchiyack Broly survived
Radripper5 3 days ago
@Radripper5 i said he couldnt exploit it on his own at least. and no its impossible for them to give goku all their power because they didnt have all their power to begin with. they were lyinhg on the ground, dying and in base form. so its no surprise broly survived because he was hit with nowhere near the kind oif power hatchiyack was.
054martinm 2 days ago