This is an excellent mythbuster frae newsnet scotland. com. paste the following into google search A Unionist lexicon: An A-Z of Unionist scare stories, myths and misinformation newsnet scotland
NEWSNET SCOTLAND CUTS THROUGHT THE UNIONIST LIES
REMEMBER WHEN IT COMES TO DEMOCRACY "BRITANNIA WAIVES THE RULES"
england should have thought about scotland not wanting to be ruled by a country that invaded it and tried to take away their freedom before they made the uk ( which is an excuse for england to take credit for scotlands herritage and for the english to blame their mistakes on scotland aswell)
Offcourse the majority of English voters want Scotland to leave the union that is not the problem it is the Westminster government which is determined to keep us in and will stop at nothing to do so ,there are no positive arguments for political union that is why we have been treated to the usual threats and dire predictions one example is nuclear weapons England simply cannot afford to relocate trident,as for debt our share is at most 7 per cent ,not withstanding the oil and tax flexibility.
Ah yes but many jobs depend upon the Union, all those shipyards and submarine facilities will be moved south, not to mention many companies will relocate to London. Alex Salmond claims the Oil revenues will be enough but he glosses over the national debt...
@LittleBuddhaTV Yes they do, multiple polls have been carried out. In fact, they found that the English were more in favour of Scottish independence than the Scots were.
@MegaLolburger No they don't . Considering the amount of revenue taken from scotland each year England would suffer far more than scotland would from separation, In fact scotland would be better off to the tune of around £20 Billion on average. Of course this isn't the first time English politicians and there media lapdogs have lied regarding this matter. One must only read the McCrone the realise that fact.
@LittleBuddhaTV Polls show the majority of Scots are still in favour of union. It's that simple. Sure the SNP has gained much support, for now it is not enough to gain independence, one day you will im sure.
You are assuming that everything goes the way Salmon planned. You still have a large debt to take on, complications in the North sea etc. It's not a drastic amount of money, not to the point where the standard of living will decrease in England - a large chunk of money is spent on Scotland.
Oh aye and if 10 % of the uk population can have an effect on the other 90% then the majority shouldn't have been relying on that 10%. You are saying that Scotland would be so fucked in a split because we are so small and weak so you won't notice when we go. It will be business as usual for england won't it? So again just let us have our referendum and accept the outcome. I will yes or no. But I won't even need to think about it. I am informed lol
And you think you will win the scottish electorate over by patronising us? We don't really want you to leave as you won't survive and we really care what happens to you as a nation? Do fuck off. I only came on here to kill 10 mins last night and I have now spent an hour talking to a troll or summit. I will not get that time back. But you must sit glued to fkn You tube dude to be spinning these arguments.
Actually what are you saying madhammdux or whatever your name is? The people and land mass of scotland can only survive if it is fiscally bolted on to england??? My god what did we ever do before england arrived. thank fuck eh? You only subsidise our welfare system not our public sector as you remarked earlier. and you only subsidise that under agreement as you recieve 13bn in oil revenue. Not to mention the tax generated at the pumps which is money for nowt.
Why can't you accept the fact that Scotland is a country with the right to govern itself. I don't need to speak for everyone. The referendum will do that to which only scottish people have a say. and by the time it comes around, westminsters ignorance and dodging will alienate the pro union doubters up here. Glad I make you laugh though. nice to know that I can entertain as well as educate. I live in Scotland. This is my home. Can you say the same? If not then please peddle shit elsewhere.
Unless you are a scotsman or even worse an expat. If you are you should be fuckin ashamed for being the angliphile that you are and spreading the convoluted disinformation that westminster has fed you. Countries have the right to stand on their own. Regardless of their size. You seem to think that all you have to do is enslave a country with debt, privatise the infrastructure and you own them for good. Like the third world. Uk has been the cause of that since day one..
Greece is in the euro.. a failed currency that is why they are in the shit. Oh aye and the polls? you don't read the same polls as me evidently as you seem to talk for all of scotland. Look, you vented your spleen first. I'm only contributing to the farcical notions that you were exulting prior to watching the video. Why does it bother you so much? Just let us go. matters not a jot to you really does it? And I don't think for a second that england will fail without scotland so again let us go.
Addendum... Madhammadeux, don't worry though. when it is all decided we will keep a seat warm for you up here. We will save you from the soup kitchens and the dole office. You see, we only want to to be independant. We still want to remain friends. we still want to stand shoulder to shoulder with you all and defend our shared coastlines. We are an Island after all. We just want to control our own taxes and spending. Why is there a problem? Unless you have something to lose...
The problem is that Scotland leaving the UK would mean no more UK. That means that less than 10% of the voters in this country would be given the right to determine the future nationality of over 62 Million people.
Scotland is not just some territory of the UK because it is the UK.
And that is another reason when you say 'when we leave' you do not speak for the people of Scotland, only the SNP hardcore. The majority of scotts reject Independence, check the polls.
The Bank of England sold off its original wealth and relies on unaturally controlled inflation to control the printing of its money. Who will be fucked when we split. Lol. Wake up and stay out of it. Take care of your own house. You are going to have to. What does England have btw if we were to leave. ask yourself that. Debt. shitloads of it. No space. Overpopulation. Uncontrolled immigration. No manufacturing. A service culture. Anyways. time will tell. Peace
Furthermore, you seem to be gloating about England going under if Scotland left. And how would weakness in the English economy help Scotland? You do realize the international consequences of one of the worlds largest economies failing? Let's put it into perspective. Greece. A tiny little state in the EU. It failed and send shockwaves through the EU followed by the world. Now imagine the impact of the same happening to England/wales.
If you listen to westminster enough of course you will believe that without England we would be a weak, poor, defenceless nation. We only need a small army. We will contribute to the UN and Nato like everyone else and not waste borrowed money on defence. ALL countries can stand on their own if they live within their means. And that is what we will do. Look at your money. Ours still says sterling on it. It is still linked to wealth. Can you say the same?
And it is comments like your laughing at the idea of Englands economy collapsing that just illuminate your supporters real agenda. There is no logic behind this drive for independence. No desire to better anyone's lives, or to help in any way with the global economic crisis. It is purely based on your hatred of the English and personal self satisfaction, for people so insecure they can only feel self worth if their state is succeeding over the English. Pal...GET OVER IT!!
Get a grip. This is a Scottish issue yet you want to talk about England all the time. Scots don’t hate the English and many English people in Scotland vote SNP. Couldn’t you consider for a moment that people want independence because they believe it’s in Scotlands interest to do so?
It would seem you're the one with the problem, obsessed with hanging on to the past at the expense of the future.
Stop your scaremongering; it’s not only inaccurate but pathetic.
I highly doubt the SNP are at all interested in Scottish wellbeing. They are after power, and the division of the Union, plain and simple. Maybe you do believe it is in Scotland's best interests, I cannot say otherwsie. I myself believe it is in everyone's best interests to maintain the Union. I care about Scotland, I love Scotland. And I care about England and Wales. I don't think now is a good time to be playing these types of games that could damage all our future's.
And I'm sorry, but you can't really accuse me of trying to hang on to the past, when the SNP and their supporters are the one's living in the middle ages. Scotland is currently part of one of the Largest economies on earth. If the union had failed economically perhaps I'd agree on a dissolution, but that is simply not the case. Therefore we can only assume the Independence camp are in this for ideological rather than practical reasons. Ideology blinds you to reality. Sorry.
Do you think Saudi Arabia drill for their own oil? Do they fuck. That is where OPEC came about. they allow UK/USA/France etc to drill for them. Private enterprise drills for oil not governments and we will still do good business with these entities. Oil is the tip of the iceberg. We are rich in everything that makes a country great. We don't need the oil. But it is in OUR waters. It is our referendum. not yours. Stay the fuck out of it.
The scottish people didn't want your fucking union. It was the English parliament and the Scottish nobles that sold us out. You wanted us for the asset that we are and now you are shitting bricks at the thought of losing us because of what we bring to the party. Just let us go. that is all you have to do. If we are such a drain on the rest of the UK then let us go. You can watch us die in poverty and laugh at us. But you know we won't as we are strong.
there are plenty of countries in the world that stand on their own. And on the subjects of the banks that were bailed out, they werent scottish banks they were UK banks who borrowed all of their money centrally. Scotland will take it's FAIR share. And in terms of the oil infrastructure you didn't pay for the hardware dick. Foreign companies lease our oil fields and use their own private infrastructure to get at it. Look at the union history and how we got here.
you know, we are a country in our own right with the same if not more resources than any other. Why are everyone trying to convince the scottish people that we aren't big enough to control our own fiscal policies? If you aren't scottish then butt out. And if you are of the opinion that we cant govern ourselves then you can say you told us so if we fail. But we wont.. Just let us go in peace. With our oil and gas and water and land and space. Leave us the fuck alone.
If you give two shits about Scotland, listen the fuck up. An independent Scotland would start out life as a debt ridden state entirely dependent on oil to prop itself up. Failing Scottish banks were recently bailed out by Westminster. In the future Scottish businesses would be left to fail. Scotland would start out with no credit rating, so would not be able to borrow. Westminster currently subsidises the Scottish public sector, that money would be gone. ...
And let me also remind you. North sea oil, which Scotland would be entirely dependent on, would not fall entirely in Scottish hands. It would be split with the UK. What's more Scotland does not have the resources to independently exploit those oil reserves at current levels. I must also stress that those resources are finite. What are Scotland's plans once it's only source of revenue has dried up?
Time to face the facts and let go of this dream..or should I say nightmare?
And on the subject of oil. Do you really think the rest of the UK, the countries who's populations make up more than 90% of the inhabitants of this Island, are just going to roll over nicely and say 'ok Mr Salmond, you just take all the oil you want and all the hardware we paid for'. Sorry, but Scotland is getting a slice of the oil relative to it's population. Which isn't that much I'm afraid. Seriously, for the sake of you and your families welfare, vote NO.
@madhammudeux Tony Benn once said the best way to control people is to scare them; this would seem to be what you are trying to do.
Why would foreign investment dry up? The only way this would happen is if the bottom fell out of Sterling. If this were the case then it would be the same in England.
All hardware in the North Sea is owned by oil companies not government.
99% of council housing staff are white,giving priority housing to blacks,but when the white complains ,theyre labeled racists,my somalian drug dealing neighbour gets attacked in the STREET,hes offered 5 houses in one week,25th jan i get a gang of thugs barging into my HOUSE looking for another dealer in my close,my housing office turn a blind eye. dont want to know ,im the carer for my dad ,he lives on the other end of the city ive had doctors mps, social work supplying letters,so whos racist?
He vomits up the sort of stuff that people think when they watch Braveheart one too many times and think its the height of patriotism to slam the union and England.
@louiscfc93 See if you're going to make claims like that, you really have to back them up with examples. What has Alex Salmond or the SNP ever actually said that's anti-English? Salmond said last week, in London, that he was an Anglophile and thinks Scottish independence would be good for England as well as Scotland.
Being half English and half Scottish all I can say is that these comments prove that both countries are full of nationalistic pr*cks. Grow up children.
@Keith1867 Jeremy Paxman should be kept in the vault in Vienna where quantities such as the Kilogram are kept for international reference. He would be the standard measure of "cunt". All other snide and demeaning scum would then be measured in "Paxmans"
@shaunofthea I agree. The amount of people who have been brainwashed by this man is terrifying. Just goes to show- say the word freedom and wave a Scottish flag enough and you can convince people to shoot themselves in the foot willingly.
@haroldbhoy67 Yes it will - as long as fools like yourself keep spouting this rancid anti-scottish bile then it's inevitable. As for who pays for who - do 2 things..
1) Read the Mcrone report
2) Read the GERS report.
3) Come back on here an apologise for spouting blantant racially motivated lies.
If you are a Scot (and it's a BIG if) you are the worst kind - the self hater - the epitome of the Scottish Cringe.
@krackersdave I was born in Lanarkshire of Scottish parents brought up in Glasgow, left in my early 20`s to seek employment. Sorry if thats not Scottish enough for you. Racially motivated lies?? WTF? Questioning the abuse of the welfare state that I see with my own eyes when I visit (Glasgow) and hear first hand makes me racist against own countrymen? YOU can apologise to me on December 31st 2014 when Scotland will STILL be in the Union, and a good thing too! goodbye.
@haroldbhoy67 Don't be so sure. At the end of the day, your opinion amounts to nothing more than a single "no" vote. People will make their own minds up whether your ego can handle it or not.
@sbowesuk My ego doesnt count in this or any other matter. Neither does my vote, whether no, yes, dont know or whatever as I havent lived in Scotland since 1992 (more recently than sean connery though!!) and unless I am wrong I wont be allowed to vote in any Scottish independance referendum?? If I was though I would be one of the 77% (according to the latest polls) against it. If you go it alone (you wont though) then the best of luck, you`ll need it.
@haroldbhoy67 As a Celtic supporter, I'm sure that you too, like the Irish did, would have fought and died for Ireland to be free of British rule. Why is it that we in Scotland - who thankfully only have to vote for it - can't follow the example of our Celtic cousins?
@frasersg Hypothetical my friend (and, with respect, a bit of a stereo type?!) I`m not Irish. I`m Scottish, the football team I support has no bearing on my political view. If you want to follow the example of your celtic cousins then thats your democratic right and good luck to you. Ireland is an economic basket case (like Greece, Portugal, Italy, Spain and hopefully not Scotland) and is bailed out by the EU. Sadly, no example to follow.
@haroldbhoy67 Be that as it may, this economic period (like others before it) is transient and I'm sure that Ireland along with the other countries mentioned, will find their feet again. And as often quoted, 'a Nation is more than a balance sheet' and that is something realised by the Peoples of independent nations all over the world. However, I hope that the National debate doesn't descend into acrimony and that is why I'll conclude by saying that you're free to choose whichever way you see fit
@frasersg Indeed my friend,an argument politley made, unlike crackersdave. In countries like Ireland, Iceland, Norway etc (all held up before the slump by AS as role models for an Independant Scotland) the cost of living and every day goods (especially beer!) was/is astronomical. I also hope it doesnt descend into acrimony but as an exiled scot I despair of the tartan bullies like crackersdave. I wont get the chance to vote, maybe you will, good luck, whatever you choose to see fit.
@haroldbhoy67 You'll also know that wages and salaries are much higher in Norway commensurate with the cost of living. You'll also know that social provision is higher again - with a very generous state pension (two thirds of your final salary).
The fact that Scotland is not comparing favourably on any of these measures is an ostensible failure of the Union.
@globaltraveller In Norway How much is income tax? How much is a beer in a bar? How much to eat out? How much is the average wage? How many people (% of population) claim benefits? (unemployment, sickness etc) How many people have made a lifestyle choice to live on benefits and not get a job? Genuine questions.
@haroldbhoy67 About 25%, about £7, considerably higher than in the UK (at least twice as high), a large percentage (some 10% of the Norwegian population is on the equivalent of disability living allowance) although not perhaps as much as in Walsall, Bolton, Liverpool or Basildon, where not working is the occupation of the majority of the population.
@globaltraveller Walsall etc probably and many more and Large chunks of Glasgow, and every other City and region in Scotland where benefit scrounging is a lifestyle choice. Who is going to pay for that when Scotland is independant? (hypothetical as you know as well as I do that Independance will never happen) 'about' 25%, personally thought it was higher (any links?) £7 a pint!! Forgive me if I dont offer to buy you one! Have a good night, Cheers (5 x cans for a £5!!!)
@JasonRadley It's true. They said a lot worse things than that too. And I'm talking thousands of people from all over the world! Noone likes the english, and in my job I talk to hundreds of people from all over the world everyday by phone and and through the internet! Your just a useless dour faced race of skinny big nosed elves who can't talk properly and sound 'nasally' when they do!
What's going on in England? benefits going out to the massive influx of Europeans from second world countries. 80% tax on fuel. Where are the production industries? Drugs and crime are rife in cities. Fast-food outlets everywhere. The trains are crap, the postal system is mostly privatised, the health service is f**ked (£12bn on a new computer system?! They have shite television, political correctness and health & safety. This is all set against a backdrop of pandering to minority groups.
Look what happens in Shakespeare's Macbeth. The Scots get het up and start killing each other (a bit like Glasgow on a Friday night) and the English have to come up to settle things down. It's been going on for centuries.
@JasonRadley Lol you english bastard lol! Well im off to bed... Hopefully soon ill be sleeping in a nice new country. The trouble with Scotland....is that theres english people in it!
Anyone who would try to stop someone else from being independent does NOT have the persons best interests at heart....They are self seeking. It's the same with countries or anything else. They are holding on to it because they 'need' them...But the person/country who wants to be independent knows they are better off without the 'clinger on'.
@rancidbum Do parents who stop their kids from running away not have their best interests at heart? By the way, as an independent country, would you prefer Scotland to keep sterling or join the Euro? And would you continue to accept funds from the EU budget?
@JasonRadley To be completely honest with you. I would rather stay in a tent covered in shit than have anything to do with the english. Money is money, it just has a different name. I'd welcome new currency or just keep the pound since it wasnt a brit who 'discovered' it anyway. Therefore taking the pound would be 'stealing'. You lot are good at that mind you.
@JasonRadley Sometimes the parent does, sometimes not. Theres a lot of women who 'force' children not to see their fathers against their wills. But im not talking about kids here and you know im not, so stop acting like a prick. Oh wait your english you cant help it! You cant help it anymore than you can help having bigger noses than your cocks! Whar har har!
@rancidbum Independence is a question of degree, not of kind. I'm reminded of John Donne: 'Therefore, send not to know. For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.'
@jamiecampbell11 I think you'll find we invented/developed/codified just about every sport worth watching. The Scots did their bit too, I suppose. The main problem the rest of the world has toward England is jealousy! We're a bit like the Jews, in that regard,except we have nicer noses.
@rancidbum Practically every sport. Look it up. There's no way we could continue to dominate every sport. It's a matter of numbers. In the same way, we couldn't continue in all the scientific and technological fields that we first developed.
@JasonRadley I wasnt aware the english had invented anything? We did anaesthetics, penicillin, engineering science, golf, macadamized roads, micowaves, radar, fridges, phones, tv etc etc etc. You probably wouldn't be using a laptop right now without our great wisdom you lowlife english SCUM!
@jistaface I'm just having a laugh, it's just the old Scots v English banter. I find it funny. They know that if they didnt need the scots they would ditch them in a second. Theyre terrified we get our independence...and i find it funny. People at emnity should never be 'forced' to be together in the first place. Id rather have Iran as a neighbour.
Go Mr Pax. I'm of scotts descent and I think Salmond is a bad man. 300 yrs of peaceful coexistence flushed and vandalised by this self-seeking bad man who's inciting nasty thoughts into those who can't easily tune him out. From what i hear, many scots detest his views even more than me. No doubt there will be those that differ... The point is we are so intertwined, it is laughable -- how will we divide? Along the lines of accent?
Hello everyone, Im Scottish and I would like to make a few things quite clear:
The idea of an 'independent Scotland' is laughable, an impractical and idealistic peace of nonsense. We wouldn't have to rejoin the EU, or the UN, because by the time such paperwork was out of the way we would be completely bankrupt. We would be led into our new place in the world- somewhere between Mauritania and Taiwan -by a fried egg. THINK before you jump in with two feet and with blue face paint on, people...
@DidItForebode Errrr so you think the nation with 50% of the EU's oil production and a future bonanze of renewbles estimated at over a trillion over the next 20 years will be bankrupt? Don't think so... England on the other hand - well other than selling houses to each other at ponzi prices has exactly what going for it???
Make no mistake the UK is ONLY solvent due to North sea revenue - remove it by freeing Scotland and the debts it owes will be called. AAA to trash overnight.
@krackersdave What has been wrong with the United Kingdom? Nothing. I'm sorry, but this is just a publicity stunt so that this disgraceful excuse for a politician can boost his failing public image.
@DidItForebode What exactly is disgraceful with the politician? Failing public image? It's never been higher!
He's never lied, never misled - leads a cabinet that's actually delivering on ALL it's election promises!! It's like a breath of fresh air in comparison to the lying, self serving stealing scum that sit at Westminster.
@krackersdave You are clearly very easily fooled by propaganda. Mr. Salmond is a joke, pushed forward in his career until now by idiotic nationalists such as yourself.
@krackersdave That might have been a credible argument in the 1970s and 80s but revenues from the dwindling oil and gas reserves would be dwarfed by your share of the national debt. You'll probably end up like Greece.
When Im anywhere in the world..and Im asked where Im from..do I say Britain?UK?No..I say Scotland..because Britain an the British(Engish) are not so well liked around the world..BUT Scottish are;))
@JasonRadley Lol 'hitler'. Btw, Ive been over the world many times, and most people have told me they love the Scots but can't stand the english. Noone likes you!
@rancidbum Most people in the world have never heard of Scotland that's why they think Britain and England are synonymous.I think you'll find that English,sorry, British culture, literature, film, music, sports, etc. is incredibly popular the world over. We are a genius people.
@JasonRadley Hi you obviously don't get out much. The Scots are respected the world over, known as great inventors/poets etc. It's just the English no-one can seem to stand. Ask the French, Germans, US, canada, whoever you like and most will say they like the scots but hate the english. It's just a fact. I couldn't get home a few times until they found out i was Scottish then they said "ah i thot you were one of them english wankers".
@rancidbum Please stop your silly white lies. Why exactly couldn't you get home? Were there vigilante mobs roaming the streets looking to string up the English? Yes,the Scots had a lot of great inventors, scientists, writers,poets,but England naturally just had a lot more.
@JasonRadley No they wouldnt give me a lift if i had been english...Cant blame them really, i wouldnt have either. Who wants to listen to your droning dour voice all the way home, trying to make sense of it....with your big silly english nose poking out the window.
@JasonRadley Every american guy or aussie guy i talk to tells me they have scottish blood or love scottish history etc. It really is true that noone likes the english. It's an embarrassment to be 'united' with you. Hopefully it won't be for much longer.
@rancidbum Give that Scots, Welsh, English and Irish share the same blood, I hope you put them right. But I suspect they were just patronising you (I love that Sean Connery!). Have you any idea howmany Aussies and Americans (not to mention peeps from all four corners of the globe) are living in London? They only head to for Scotland for golf.
@rancidbum Yes,I do. But I agree with you that we should limit immigration levels,especially of non-whites. You seem to have a lot of Asians up in Glasgow and elsewhere. Not many blacks,though.
@jistaface The Scots were great empire builders, too. But you're right: the Scots are really just northern Englishmen. This little Scotlander mentality has to stop!
@JasonRadley They never say "where?"..in the USA and around the world the English are disiked..Pompus and arrogant.A typical example is your attitude..England still think they're a power from the times of their colonial empire..but now they have nothing much..get over it.
@VillageIdiot85 Stop with your lies. The English are so popular worldwide that they even had to coin a word to account for it: Anglophile. We are a genius people.
Well if you english hate the Scots so much YOU become independant. You won't though and why not? It's very simple...Because you need the Scots to take care of you. That is why england is doing EVERYTHING in it's power to try to prevent it....Taking away the pound (which isn't even yours), bullying tactics, name-calling, trying to make the independence date sooner than 2014. It's pretty obvious that the english 'need' the Scots! We are a far richer country than you lol!
This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
As an Englishman, I fully support Scots independence, because the English taxpayer will no longer have to bale out the Scots economy to the tune of £130 billion a year. However, Scotland is too small an entity to be economically viable on its own. Also the Scots will no longer be able to use the pound sterling and will have to adopt the weak and shaky euro. My fear is therefore that millions of Scots will head south of the border desperately looking for work and straining the English economy.
Quite frankly I can't believe what I'm reading. Paxman tries to humiliate everybody who appears on the show - not just the Scottish! You lot are quite simply vile to us English, it's not the other way round as you seem to think.
@MLSmartStuff I think you might be wrong about that, Being a scottish nationalist does not mean you are anti-english. Im one and i have no contempt for england whatsoever, in fact i think it is a joke how england has no parliament of its own, and i also think its wrong that scots mps can vote on english issues, where english mps cant on scottish. English people dont seem to realise that england would become an independant country also.
Alex Salmond is a National Socialist.Rember hitler?????
JoeSoap68 6 days ago
@JoeSoap68 and you a a National Idiot
haggisman11 3 days ago
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NEWSNET SCOTLAND CUTS THROUGHT THE UNIONIST LIES
REMEMBER WHEN IT COMES TO DEMOCRACY "BRITANNIA WAIVES THE RULES"
haggisman11 1 week ago
england should have thought about scotland not wanting to be ruled by a country that invaded it and tried to take away their freedom before they made the uk ( which is an excuse for england to take credit for scotlands herritage and for the english to blame their mistakes on scotland aswell)
MADMANgamemplay 1 week ago
In the end, it just comes down to who you hate more, doesn't it?
Streetwalkeriain 1 week ago
Self indulged Humpty Dumpty is going to have a great fall
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Offcourse the majority of English voters want Scotland to leave the union that is not the problem it is the Westminster government which is determined to keep us in and will stop at nothing to do so ,there are no positive arguments for political union that is why we have been treated to the usual threats and dire predictions one example is nuclear weapons England simply cannot afford to relocate trident,as for debt our share is at most 7 per cent ,not withstanding the oil and tax flexibility.
forsythbill1 1 week ago
Alex Salmond is one of Scotland's best..
mrdrawde 2 weeks ago
Och aye the noo
karezza6 2 weeks ago
Why do all these arrogant people say Scotland is a burden to England then do everything they can to stop that burden from going away?
Also, do they genuinely believe that by treating people like idiots you will win them over?
Having opposed the SNP most of my life I look forward to voting YES in the independence vote.
MrDickWarrior 2 weeks ago
"Well, listen to the argument and you can patronise it afterwards.." 2.37
Even Paxman had to laugh. Love him or hate him, Alex is a class act..
forlifewelearn 2 weeks ago
Ah yes but many jobs depend upon the Union, all those shipyards and submarine facilities will be moved south, not to mention many companies will relocate to London. Alex Salmond claims the Oil revenues will be enough but he glosses over the national debt...
mattwho81 2 weeks ago
I think you are all fucking retarded. Arguing over a lump of dirt, what is this, the 1800s?
Anyway, Scotland aren't getting independence any time soon, not whilst the majority wish to remain part of the union, suck it up.
MegaLolburger 2 weeks ago
@MegaLolburger But the majority don't wish to remain part of the Union.
LittleBuddhaTV 2 weeks ago
@LittleBuddhaTV Yes they do, multiple polls have been carried out. In fact, they found that the English were more in favour of Scottish independence than the Scots were.
MegaLolburger 2 weeks ago
@MegaLolburger No they don't . Considering the amount of revenue taken from scotland each year England would suffer far more than scotland would from separation, In fact scotland would be better off to the tune of around £20 Billion on average. Of course this isn't the first time English politicians and there media lapdogs have lied regarding this matter. One must only read the McCrone the realise that fact.
LittleBuddhaTV 2 weeks ago
@LittleBuddhaTV Polls show the majority of Scots are still in favour of union. It's that simple. Sure the SNP has gained much support, for now it is not enough to gain independence, one day you will im sure.
You are assuming that everything goes the way Salmon planned. You still have a large debt to take on, complications in the North sea etc. It's not a drastic amount of money, not to the point where the standard of living will decrease in England - a large chunk of money is spent on Scotland.
MegaLolburger 2 weeks ago
Oh aye and if 10 % of the uk population can have an effect on the other 90% then the majority shouldn't have been relying on that 10%. You are saying that Scotland would be so fucked in a split because we are so small and weak so you won't notice when we go. It will be business as usual for england won't it? So again just let us have our referendum and accept the outcome. I will yes or no. But I won't even need to think about it. I am informed lol
gbkiller007 2 weeks ago
And you think you will win the scottish electorate over by patronising us? We don't really want you to leave as you won't survive and we really care what happens to you as a nation? Do fuck off. I only came on here to kill 10 mins last night and I have now spent an hour talking to a troll or summit. I will not get that time back. But you must sit glued to fkn You tube dude to be spinning these arguments.
gbkiller007 2 weeks ago
Actually what are you saying madhammdux or whatever your name is? The people and land mass of scotland can only survive if it is fiscally bolted on to england??? My god what did we ever do before england arrived. thank fuck eh? You only subsidise our welfare system not our public sector as you remarked earlier. and you only subsidise that under agreement as you recieve 13bn in oil revenue. Not to mention the tax generated at the pumps which is money for nowt.
gbkiller007 2 weeks ago
Why can't you accept the fact that Scotland is a country with the right to govern itself. I don't need to speak for everyone. The referendum will do that to which only scottish people have a say. and by the time it comes around, westminsters ignorance and dodging will alienate the pro union doubters up here. Glad I make you laugh though. nice to know that I can entertain as well as educate. I live in Scotland. This is my home. Can you say the same? If not then please peddle shit elsewhere.
gbkiller007 2 weeks ago
Unless you are a scotsman or even worse an expat. If you are you should be fuckin ashamed for being the angliphile that you are and spreading the convoluted disinformation that westminster has fed you. Countries have the right to stand on their own. Regardless of their size. You seem to think that all you have to do is enslave a country with debt, privatise the infrastructure and you own them for good. Like the third world. Uk has been the cause of that since day one..
gbkiller007 2 weeks ago
Greece is in the euro.. a failed currency that is why they are in the shit. Oh aye and the polls? you don't read the same polls as me evidently as you seem to talk for all of scotland. Look, you vented your spleen first. I'm only contributing to the farcical notions that you were exulting prior to watching the video. Why does it bother you so much? Just let us go. matters not a jot to you really does it? And I don't think for a second that england will fail without scotland so again let us go.
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madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
Addendum... Madhammadeux, don't worry though. when it is all decided we will keep a seat warm for you up here. We will save you from the soup kitchens and the dole office. You see, we only want to to be independant. We still want to remain friends. we still want to stand shoulder to shoulder with you all and defend our shared coastlines. We are an Island after all. We just want to control our own taxes and spending. Why is there a problem? Unless you have something to lose...
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madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
@gbkiller007
The problem is that Scotland leaving the UK would mean no more UK. That means that less than 10% of the voters in this country would be given the right to determine the future nationality of over 62 Million people.
Scotland is not just some territory of the UK because it is the UK.
And that is another reason when you say 'when we leave' you do not speak for the people of Scotland, only the SNP hardcore. The majority of scotts reject Independence, check the polls.
madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
The Bank of England sold off its original wealth and relies on unaturally controlled inflation to control the printing of its money. Who will be fucked when we split. Lol. Wake up and stay out of it. Take care of your own house. You are going to have to. What does England have btw if we were to leave. ask yourself that. Debt. shitloads of it. No space. Overpopulation. Uncontrolled immigration. No manufacturing. A service culture. Anyways. time will tell. Peace
gbkiller007 3 weeks ago
@gbkiller007
Furthermore, you seem to be gloating about England going under if Scotland left. And how would weakness in the English economy help Scotland? You do realize the international consequences of one of the worlds largest economies failing? Let's put it into perspective. Greece. A tiny little state in the EU. It failed and send shockwaves through the EU followed by the world. Now imagine the impact of the same happening to England/wales.
madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
If you listen to westminster enough of course you will believe that without England we would be a weak, poor, defenceless nation. We only need a small army. We will contribute to the UN and Nato like everyone else and not waste borrowed money on defence. ALL countries can stand on their own if they live within their means. And that is what we will do. Look at your money. Ours still says sterling on it. It is still linked to wealth. Can you say the same?
gbkiller007 3 weeks ago
@gbkiller007
And it is comments like your laughing at the idea of Englands economy collapsing that just illuminate your supporters real agenda. There is no logic behind this drive for independence. No desire to better anyone's lives, or to help in any way with the global economic crisis. It is purely based on your hatred of the English and personal self satisfaction, for people so insecure they can only feel self worth if their state is succeeding over the English. Pal...GET OVER IT!!
madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
@madhammudeux
Get a grip. This is a Scottish issue yet you want to talk about England all the time. Scots don’t hate the English and many English people in Scotland vote SNP. Couldn’t you consider for a moment that people want independence because they believe it’s in Scotlands interest to do so?
It would seem you're the one with the problem, obsessed with hanging on to the past at the expense of the future.
Stop your scaremongering; it’s not only inaccurate but pathetic.
MrDickWarrior 2 weeks ago
@MrDickWarrior
I highly doubt the SNP are at all interested in Scottish wellbeing. They are after power, and the division of the Union, plain and simple. Maybe you do believe it is in Scotland's best interests, I cannot say otherwsie. I myself believe it is in everyone's best interests to maintain the Union. I care about Scotland, I love Scotland. And I care about England and Wales. I don't think now is a good time to be playing these types of games that could damage all our future's.
madhammudeux 2 weeks ago
@MrDickWarrior
And I'm sorry, but you can't really accuse me of trying to hang on to the past, when the SNP and their supporters are the one's living in the middle ages. Scotland is currently part of one of the Largest economies on earth. If the union had failed economically perhaps I'd agree on a dissolution, but that is simply not the case. Therefore we can only assume the Independence camp are in this for ideological rather than practical reasons. Ideology blinds you to reality. Sorry.
madhammudeux 2 weeks ago
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p.s, good luck with the storm. Lucky it's not a work day tomorrow.
madhammudeux 2 weeks ago
Do you think Saudi Arabia drill for their own oil? Do they fuck. That is where OPEC came about. they allow UK/USA/France etc to drill for them. Private enterprise drills for oil not governments and we will still do good business with these entities. Oil is the tip of the iceberg. We are rich in everything that makes a country great. We don't need the oil. But it is in OUR waters. It is our referendum. not yours. Stay the fuck out of it.
gbkiller007 3 weeks ago
The scottish people didn't want your fucking union. It was the English parliament and the Scottish nobles that sold us out. You wanted us for the asset that we are and now you are shitting bricks at the thought of losing us because of what we bring to the party. Just let us go. that is all you have to do. If we are such a drain on the rest of the UK then let us go. You can watch us die in poverty and laugh at us. But you know we won't as we are strong.
gbkiller007 3 weeks ago 2
there are plenty of countries in the world that stand on their own. And on the subjects of the banks that were bailed out, they werent scottish banks they were UK banks who borrowed all of their money centrally. Scotland will take it's FAIR share. And in terms of the oil infrastructure you didn't pay for the hardware dick. Foreign companies lease our oil fields and use their own private infrastructure to get at it. Look at the union history and how we got here.
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MrDickWarrior 3 weeks ago
Salmond is a real politician, Paxmon is not used to them.
MrDickWarrior 3 weeks ago 2
@MrDickWarrior
A real politician? You mean a sleazy, corrupt power hungry fatso?
You damn straight he's a real politician. Vote NO.
madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
@madhammudeux
Paxman is not used to talking with honest politicians like Salmond.
Unlike the Conservative criminals, Alex Salmonds SNP have a majority.
They have a majority because they are trusted.
MrDickWarrior 3 weeks ago
you know, we are a country in our own right with the same if not more resources than any other. Why are everyone trying to convince the scottish people that we aren't big enough to control our own fiscal policies? If you aren't scottish then butt out. And if you are of the opinion that we cant govern ourselves then you can say you told us so if we fail. But we wont.. Just let us go in peace. With our oil and gas and water and land and space. Leave us the fuck alone.
gbkiller007 3 weeks ago
@gbkiller007
If you give two shits about Scotland, listen the fuck up. An independent Scotland would start out life as a debt ridden state entirely dependent on oil to prop itself up. Failing Scottish banks were recently bailed out by Westminster. In the future Scottish businesses would be left to fail. Scotland would start out with no credit rating, so would not be able to borrow. Westminster currently subsidises the Scottish public sector, that money would be gone. ...
madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
@gbkiller007
And let me also remind you. North sea oil, which Scotland would be entirely dependent on, would not fall entirely in Scottish hands. It would be split with the UK. What's more Scotland does not have the resources to independently exploit those oil reserves at current levels. I must also stress that those resources are finite. What are Scotland's plans once it's only source of revenue has dried up?
Time to face the facts and let go of this dream..or should I say nightmare?
madhammudeux 3 weeks ago
@gbkiller007
And on the subject of oil. Do you really think the rest of the UK, the countries who's populations make up more than 90% of the inhabitants of this Island, are just going to roll over nicely and say 'ok Mr Salmond, you just take all the oil you want and all the hardware we paid for'. Sorry, but Scotland is getting a slice of the oil relative to it's population. Which isn't that much I'm afraid. Seriously, for the sake of you and your families welfare, vote NO.
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@madhammudeux Tony Benn once said the best way to control people is to scare them; this would seem to be what you are trying to do.
Why would foreign investment dry up? The only way this would happen is if the bottom fell out of Sterling. If this were the case then it would be the same in England.
All hardware in the North Sea is owned by oil companies not government.
Do you even think through your bold statements?
Put away your crystal ball of doom.
MrDickWarrior 3 weeks ago
Salmond is a weazel.
JohnS1704 3 weeks ago
Most English people agree Paxman is an arrogant cunt
wank0r 3 weeks ago
SNP are the most progressive party in the UK by miles. Pro
irresistablejewel 3 weeks ago
Paxman is right SNP are weak they are in a world of their own they will ruin Scotland
Pro13east 3 weeks ago
Like Keith1867 I would never get tired of punching that Paxman 'Prick' in the face. And I am not a violent man.
What a smug and typically arrogant member of the BBC. As always opposed to all things NOT English (AKA, British)
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99% of council housing staff are white,giving priority housing to blacks,but when the white complains ,theyre labeled racists,my somalian drug dealing neighbour gets attacked in the STREET,hes offered 5 houses in one week,25th jan i get a gang of thugs barging into my HOUSE looking for another dealer in my close,my housing office turn a blind eye. dont want to know ,im the carer for my dad ,he lives on the other end of the city ive had doctors mps, social work supplying letters,so whos racist?
apes850 3 weeks ago
Paxman is a FFFFFUUUUUDDDDDD!!!!!!!
davyat79 3 weeks ago
He vomits up the sort of stuff that people think when they watch Braveheart one too many times and think its the height of patriotism to slam the union and England.
louiscfc93 1 month ago
@louiscfc93 What sort of stuff?
GPOPization 3 weeks ago
@GPOPization Anti English and anti union prejudice. We should be more mature as to resort to old prejudice causing us to want independance
louiscfc93 3 weeks ago
@louiscfc93 See if you're going to make claims like that, you really have to back them up with examples. What has Alex Salmond or the SNP ever actually said that's anti-English? Salmond said last week, in London, that he was an Anglophile and thinks Scottish independence would be good for England as well as Scotland.
GPOPization 3 weeks ago
Being half English and half Scottish all I can say is that these comments prove that both countries are full of nationalistic pr*cks. Grow up children.
flinchus 1 month ago
Would you get tired punching Paxman? He really is a smug, supercilious creep.
Keith1867 1 month ago 7
@Keith1867 Jeremy Paxman should be kept in the vault in Vienna where quantities such as the Kilogram are kept for international reference. He would be the standard measure of "cunt". All other snide and demeaning scum would then be measured in "Paxmans"
Example: Jeremy Kyle = 0.98 Paxmans
MAKROPHAGE55 3 weeks ago
fat cunt
Ste0wnz 1 month ago
@Ste0wnz How eloquent.
ColonelClegMcLeg 1 month ago
@ColonelClegMcLeg Almost as eloquent as Mr Salmond.
Ste0wnz 1 month ago
@Ste0wnz pump but he ain't no Pickles :)
samuelmunro2 4 weeks ago
@samuelmunro2
He's an arsehole.
Ste0wnz 4 weeks ago
@Ste0wnz Better fat than a stupid fuck like you.
MAKROPHAGE55 3 weeks ago
@MAKROPHAGE55
Lol.. and he's both and more you dumb fuck..
Ste0wnz 3 weeks ago
Napoleon failed to destroy our nation. Hitler failed to destroy our nation. I am deeply terrified Alex Salmond may succeed.
shaunofthea 1 month ago
@shaunofthea I agree. The amount of people who have been brainwashed by this man is terrifying. Just goes to show- say the word freedom and wave a Scottish flag enough and you can convince people to shoot themselves in the foot willingly.
hamsterminator 3 weeks ago
@shaunofthea He won't
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haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@haroldbhoy67 Yes it will - as long as fools like yourself keep spouting this rancid anti-scottish bile then it's inevitable. As for who pays for who - do 2 things..
1) Read the Mcrone report
2) Read the GERS report.
3) Come back on here an apologise for spouting blantant racially motivated lies.
If you are a Scot (and it's a BIG if) you are the worst kind - the self hater - the epitome of the Scottish Cringe.
krackersdave 1 month ago
@krackersdave I was born in Lanarkshire of Scottish parents brought up in Glasgow, left in my early 20`s to seek employment. Sorry if thats not Scottish enough for you. Racially motivated lies?? WTF? Questioning the abuse of the welfare state that I see with my own eyes when I visit (Glasgow) and hear first hand makes me racist against own countrymen? YOU can apologise to me on December 31st 2014 when Scotland will STILL be in the Union, and a good thing too! goodbye.
haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@haroldbhoy67 Don't be so sure. At the end of the day, your opinion amounts to nothing more than a single "no" vote. People will make their own minds up whether your ego can handle it or not.
sbowesuk 1 month ago
@sbowesuk My ego doesnt count in this or any other matter. Neither does my vote, whether no, yes, dont know or whatever as I havent lived in Scotland since 1992 (more recently than sean connery though!!) and unless I am wrong I wont be allowed to vote in any Scottish independance referendum?? If I was though I would be one of the 77% (according to the latest polls) against it. If you go it alone (you wont though) then the best of luck, you`ll need it.
haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@haroldbhoy67 As a Celtic supporter, I'm sure that you too, like the Irish did, would have fought and died for Ireland to be free of British rule. Why is it that we in Scotland - who thankfully only have to vote for it - can't follow the example of our Celtic cousins?
frasersg 1 month ago
@frasersg Hypothetical my friend (and, with respect, a bit of a stereo type?!) I`m not Irish. I`m Scottish, the football team I support has no bearing on my political view. If you want to follow the example of your celtic cousins then thats your democratic right and good luck to you. Ireland is an economic basket case (like Greece, Portugal, Italy, Spain and hopefully not Scotland) and is bailed out by the EU. Sadly, no example to follow.
haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@haroldbhoy67 Be that as it may, this economic period (like others before it) is transient and I'm sure that Ireland along with the other countries mentioned, will find their feet again. And as often quoted, 'a Nation is more than a balance sheet' and that is something realised by the Peoples of independent nations all over the world. However, I hope that the National debate doesn't descend into acrimony and that is why I'll conclude by saying that you're free to choose whichever way you see fit
frasersg 1 month ago
@frasersg Indeed my friend,an argument politley made, unlike crackersdave. In countries like Ireland, Iceland, Norway etc (all held up before the slump by AS as role models for an Independant Scotland) the cost of living and every day goods (especially beer!) was/is astronomical. I also hope it doesnt descend into acrimony but as an exiled scot I despair of the tartan bullies like crackersdave. I wont get the chance to vote, maybe you will, good luck, whatever you choose to see fit.
haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@haroldbhoy67 You'll also know that wages and salaries are much higher in Norway commensurate with the cost of living. You'll also know that social provision is higher again - with a very generous state pension (two thirds of your final salary).
The fact that Scotland is not comparing favourably on any of these measures is an ostensible failure of the Union.
The UK is an economic basket case.
globaltraveller 1 month ago
@globaltraveller In Norway How much is income tax? How much is a beer in a bar? How much to eat out? How much is the average wage? How many people (% of population) claim benefits? (unemployment, sickness etc) How many people have made a lifestyle choice to live on benefits and not get a job? Genuine questions.
haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@haroldbhoy67 About 25%, about £7, considerably higher than in the UK (at least twice as high), a large percentage (some 10% of the Norwegian population is on the equivalent of disability living allowance) although not perhaps as much as in Walsall, Bolton, Liverpool or Basildon, where not working is the occupation of the majority of the population.
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@globaltraveller Walsall etc probably and many more and Large chunks of Glasgow, and every other City and region in Scotland where benefit scrounging is a lifestyle choice. Who is going to pay for that when Scotland is independant? (hypothetical as you know as well as I do that Independance will never happen) 'about' 25%, personally thought it was higher (any links?) £7 a pint!! Forgive me if I dont offer to buy you one! Have a good night, Cheers (5 x cans for a £5!!!)
haroldbhoy67 1 month ago
@frasersg Because this is 2012 not the 1700s
louiscfc93 1 month ago
@louiscfc93 If you're referring to Ireland's cessation from Britain, that was 1921.
frasersg 4 weeks ago
@frasersg Umm no im referring to the union of Scotland and England in 1707
louiscfc93 4 weeks ago
The next time an american says "arent you all just british anyway", say "Arent canadians and americans just the same thing.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum No American has ever said that to you, so stop with the fairytales, you silly little boy.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley It's true. They said a lot worse things than that too. And I'm talking thousands of people from all over the world! Noone likes the english, and in my job I talk to hundreds of people from all over the world everyday by phone and and through the internet! Your just a useless dour faced race of skinny big nosed elves who can't talk properly and sound 'nasally' when they do!
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidburn The only people that you speak to everyday are the voices in your head. Your breathe lies and talk shit.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley You just lie all the time. Typical english! You don't even know me. Just chill out! Noone wants your shit country, it's not my fault!
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Aye and mexicans too.
Upeter2 1 month ago
@jasonradely DO NOT mock Glasgow on a sat night about killing each other, that was a shit and cheap joke get a grip you looser
jamiecampbell11 1 month ago
@jamiecampbell11 OK, make that a Friday night.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
What's going on in England? benefits going out to the massive influx of Europeans from second world countries. 80% tax on fuel. Where are the production industries? Drugs and crime are rife in cities. Fast-food outlets everywhere. The trains are crap, the postal system is mostly privatised, the health service is f**ked (£12bn on a new computer system?! They have shite television, political correctness and health & safety. This is all set against a backdrop of pandering to minority groups.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Yous just cant run a country. Let scotland do the job for yous....yous are too stupid as is very evident!
rancidbum 1 month ago
Scottish independence makes no more sense than that of the Cornish. They used to think that tin mining would make them a financial powerhouse.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley How come England wants us but Scotland doesn't seem to want them?
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum I see no reason to believe that the Scots want out. It's just teenage rebellion.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Read the papers then. Its happening. Nite nite now cheery bye ta ta!
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum You'll never suceed in putting the clocks back either! GMT rules!
JasonRadley 1 month ago
Look what happens in Shakespeare's Macbeth. The Scots get het up and start killing each other (a bit like Glasgow on a Friday night) and the English have to come up to settle things down. It's been going on for centuries.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Lol you english bastard lol! Well im off to bed... Hopefully soon ill be sleeping in a nice new country. The trouble with Scotland....is that theres english people in it!
rancidbum 1 month ago
Sleep tight as the might of the British state keeps watchful wake to protect us all! Britain uber alles!
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley I feel so safe. We have a big strong queen to take care of us and some war mongerors! Great!
rancidbum 1 month ago
Anyone who would try to stop someone else from being independent does NOT have the persons best interests at heart....They are self seeking. It's the same with countries or anything else. They are holding on to it because they 'need' them...But the person/country who wants to be independent knows they are better off without the 'clinger on'.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Do parents who stop their kids from running away not have their best interests at heart? By the way, as an independent country, would you prefer Scotland to keep sterling or join the Euro? And would you continue to accept funds from the EU budget?
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley To be completely honest with you. I would rather stay in a tent covered in shit than have anything to do with the english. Money is money, it just has a different name. I'd welcome new currency or just keep the pound since it wasnt a brit who 'discovered' it anyway. Therefore taking the pound would be 'stealing'. You lot are good at that mind you.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Sometimes the parent does, sometimes not. Theres a lot of women who 'force' children not to see their fathers against their wills. But im not talking about kids here and you know im not, so stop acting like a prick. Oh wait your english you cant help it! You cant help it anymore than you can help having bigger noses than your cocks! Whar har har!
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Independence is a question of degree, not of kind. I'm reminded of John Donne: 'Therefore, send not to know. For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.'
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley "Do parents who stop their KIDS from running away not have their best interests at heart?"
Sorry for butting in, but did you really make an analogy with Scots and children??????
My god - next we'll be hearing White Man's Burden!
jistaface 1 month ago
@jistaface If you act like children, don't be upset if I treat you like them.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
English are stuck up who assume that when it comes to the world cup it will be "their year" and they are still waiting yet!!
jamiecampbell11 1 month ago
@jamiecampbell11 I think you'll find we invented/developed/codified just about every sport worth watching. The Scots did their bit too, I suppose. The main problem the rest of the world has toward England is jealousy! We're a bit like the Jews, in that regard,except we have nicer noses.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley You invented some sports...just a shame you cant play them. I prefer jews noses....bit smaller.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Practically every sport. Look it up. There's no way we could continue to dominate every sport. It's a matter of numbers. In the same way, we couldn't continue in all the scientific and technological fields that we first developed.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley I wasnt aware the english had invented anything? We did anaesthetics, penicillin, engineering science, golf, macadamized roads, micowaves, radar, fridges, phones, tv etc etc etc. You probably wouldn't be using a laptop right now without our great wisdom you lowlife english SCUM!
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Keep a calm sough, don't feed trolls. :)
jistaface 1 month ago
@jistaface I'm just having a laugh, it's just the old Scots v English banter. I find it funny. They know that if they didnt need the scots they would ditch them in a second. Theyre terrified we get our independence...and i find it funny. People at emnity should never be 'forced' to be together in the first place. Id rather have Iran as a neighbour.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum
I should take my own advice! :)
jistaface 1 month ago
Go Mr Pax. I'm of scotts descent and I think Salmond is a bad man. 300 yrs of peaceful coexistence flushed and vandalised by this self-seeking bad man who's inciting nasty thoughts into those who can't easily tune him out. From what i hear, many scots detest his views even more than me. No doubt there will be those that differ... The point is we are so intertwined, it is laughable -- how will we divide? Along the lines of accent?
Injudiciously 1 month ago
what a fat cunt he is...
lampsyno8 1 month ago
Hello everyone, Im Scottish and I would like to make a few things quite clear:
The idea of an 'independent Scotland' is laughable, an impractical and idealistic peace of nonsense. We wouldn't have to rejoin the EU, or the UN, because by the time such paperwork was out of the way we would be completely bankrupt. We would be led into our new place in the world- somewhere between Mauritania and Taiwan -by a fried egg. THINK before you jump in with two feet and with blue face paint on, people...
DidItForebode 1 month ago
@DidItForebode Your never Scottish having been truly duped by English propaganda eejit!
victorinchrist1 1 month ago
@DidItForebode Errrr so you think the nation with 50% of the EU's oil production and a future bonanze of renewbles estimated at over a trillion over the next 20 years will be bankrupt? Don't think so... England on the other hand - well other than selling houses to each other at ponzi prices has exactly what going for it???
Make no mistake the UK is ONLY solvent due to North sea revenue - remove it by freeing Scotland and the debts it owes will be called. AAA to trash overnight.
krackersdave 1 month ago
@krackersdave What has been wrong with the United Kingdom? Nothing. I'm sorry, but this is just a publicity stunt so that this disgraceful excuse for a politician can boost his failing public image.
DidItForebode 1 month ago
@DidItForebode What exactly is disgraceful with the politician? Failing public image? It's never been higher!
He's never lied, never misled - leads a cabinet that's actually delivering on ALL it's election promises!! It's like a breath of fresh air in comparison to the lying, self serving stealing scum that sit at Westminster.
krackersdave 1 month ago
@krackersdave You are clearly very easily fooled by propaganda. Mr. Salmond is a joke, pushed forward in his career until now by idiotic nationalists such as yourself.
DidItForebode 1 month ago
@DidItForebode you mean the propoganda you are spouting? No thanks - I can think for myself.
krackersdave 1 month ago
@krackersdave That might have been a credible argument in the 1970s and 80s but revenues from the dwindling oil and gas reserves would be dwarfed by your share of the national debt. You'll probably end up like Greece.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
When Im anywhere in the world..and Im asked where Im from..do I say Britain?UK?No..I say Scotland..because Britain an the British(Engish) are not so well liked around the world..BUT Scottish are;))
VillageIdiot85 1 month ago
@VillageIdiot85 And they say, 'Where?' to which you reply, 'It's part of Britain.' to which they reply, 'Oh, you're English, why didn't you say so?'
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Lol 'hitler'. Btw, Ive been over the world many times, and most people have told me they love the Scots but can't stand the english. Noone likes you!
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Most people in the world have never heard of Scotland that's why they think Britain and England are synonymous.I think you'll find that English,sorry, British culture, literature, film, music, sports, etc. is incredibly popular the world over. We are a genius people.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Hi you obviously don't get out much. The Scots are respected the world over, known as great inventors/poets etc. It's just the English no-one can seem to stand. Ask the French, Germans, US, canada, whoever you like and most will say they like the scots but hate the english. It's just a fact. I couldn't get home a few times until they found out i was Scottish then they said "ah i thot you were one of them english wankers".
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Please stop your silly white lies. Why exactly couldn't you get home? Were there vigilante mobs roaming the streets looking to string up the English? Yes,the Scots had a lot of great inventors, scientists, writers,poets,but England naturally just had a lot more.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley No they wouldnt give me a lift if i had been english...Cant blame them really, i wouldnt have either. Who wants to listen to your droning dour voice all the way home, trying to make sense of it....with your big silly english nose poking out the window.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Every american guy or aussie guy i talk to tells me they have scottish blood or love scottish history etc. It really is true that noone likes the english. It's an embarrassment to be 'united' with you. Hopefully it won't be for much longer.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Give that Scots, Welsh, English and Irish share the same blood, I hope you put them right. But I suspect they were just patronising you (I love that Sean Connery!). Have you any idea howmany Aussies and Americans (not to mention peeps from all four corners of the globe) are living in London? They only head to for Scotland for golf.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley Yeh theres a lot of cultures in London...your country gives all the immigrants your jobs and houses...Do you have a job?
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Yes,I do. But I agree with you that we should limit immigration levels,especially of non-whites. You seem to have a lot of Asians up in Glasgow and elsewhere. Not many blacks,though.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley SNP will stop it when we get independence. It's your country thats fking it up for everyone.
rancidbum 1 month ago
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jistaface 1 month ago
@jistaface The Scots were great empire builders, too. But you're right: the Scots are really just northern Englishmen. This little Scotlander mentality has to stop!
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@rancidbum Oops, sorry, replied to the wrong person. Scuse me!
jistaface 1 month ago
@jistaface It's now compulsory Scottish policy that you have to grant me a sexual favour for that. ;)
rancidbum 1 month ago
@JasonRadley They never say "where?"..in the USA and around the world the English are disiked..Pompus and arrogant.A typical example is your attitude..England still think they're a power from the times of their colonial empire..but now they have nothing much..get over it.
VillageIdiot85 1 month ago
@VillageIdiot85 Stop with your lies. The English are so popular worldwide that they even had to coin a word to account for it: Anglophile. We are a genius people.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
Jeremy just comes across as a rude idiot. Alex Salmond is one of the greatest speakers the world has even known.
rancidbum 1 month ago
@rancidbum Yeah,second only to Hitler.
JasonRadley 1 month ago
@JasonRadley fruitcake!
victorinchrist1 1 month ago 2
Alex Salmond is a superstar, keep it going Alex you are doing a fantastic job
Gusdocs1 1 month ago
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Well if you english hate the Scots so much YOU become independant. You won't though and why not? It's very simple...Because you need the Scots to take care of you. That is why england is doing EVERYTHING in it's power to try to prevent it....Taking away the pound (which isn't even yours), bullying tactics, name-calling, trying to make the independence date sooner than 2014. It's pretty obvious that the english 'need' the Scots! We are a far richer country than you lol!
rancidbum 1 month ago
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This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
karezza6 1 month ago
ROYAL BRITANNIA! I am scottish and I hate alex salmond. people in england help me! I dont want to end up being just scottish! I love being british!
fiesta51 1 month ago
@fiesta51 You'll be European!
JasonRadley 1 month ago
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As an Englishman, I fully support Scots independence, because the English taxpayer will no longer have to bale out the Scots economy to the tune of £130 billion a year. However, Scotland is too small an entity to be economically viable on its own. Also the Scots will no longer be able to use the pound sterling and will have to adopt the weak and shaky euro. My fear is therefore that millions of Scots will head south of the border desperately looking for work and straining the English economy.
glenpovey 1 month ago
Quite frankly I can't believe what I'm reading. Paxman tries to humiliate everybody who appears on the show - not just the Scottish! You lot are quite simply vile to us English, it's not the other way round as you seem to think.
MLSmartStuff 1 month ago
@MLSmartStuff I think you might be wrong about that, Being a scottish nationalist does not mean you are anti-english. Im one and i have no contempt for england whatsoever, in fact i think it is a joke how england has no parliament of its own, and i also think its wrong that scots mps can vote on english issues, where english mps cant on scottish. English people dont seem to realise that england would become an independant country also.
Upeter2 1 month ago