I'd be friends with Osama Bin Laden and not REZA. Osama was BLUNT and direct and FAITHFUL to his religion and the scriptures. REZA will perform all the acrobatics possible to tell his audience there's no sharia and nothing to worry about it. He'll pull a rabbit out of his ass (he will) to mislead people that there's NO, NOTHING wrong with SHARIA and it's all the boogye men ...or UNICORNS...The average IDIOT will buy his BCrap...REZA makes me nauseous with his demeanor and platitudes.
I have never heard of him..until now...GIMMICKY and condescending,..nothing he speaks about is given out with facts. The work of R Spencer is nothing beyond reporting facts of what is going on in the middle-east and the west in regards to Muslim..be it terrorism or the encroachment of Sharia into legal decision by judges and MUCH more. I dare anyone to follow Jihad watch for one week..ONE WEEk...and tell me Spencer is a not truth warrior. READ the Koran people, and you see REZA is a LYING SNAKE
it does not matter how nice he spins it the facts dont lie! islam and freedom do not co exsist they are opposites i live in the uk and i can see the changes to this country (muslim enclaves were you are not made to feel welcome quite the opposite) these grow larger year upon year but maybe its because im a bigot, racist, islamaphobe etc etc. Religion of peace???? until you scratch the surface! But he puts its it across so well i wish it was true :(
@spytube7373 THE FACT IS he DID not spin NOTHING...I can just see a debate between him and Robert Spencer...or Ayaan Hirsi Ali...he'd melt right there in front of the audience like snow on a spring day...Look at this quick 5 min video...ALL he does is gestures and mannerisms.(people laugh...hardly....I bet he's gay...nothing against..I AM GAY...but then,..would he not be HANGED IN IRAN?..,..just saying).. REZA IS a clown, ow people could sit and listen to his speech is beyond me...
"Pakistan: Growing Concerns About Extremism, Continuing Discontent with U.S."
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"The new poll finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78% favor death for those who leave Islam; 80% favor whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83% favor stoning adulterers."
Reminds me of the medievals. Im glad those times are long gone. No need to open the doors so this nonsense can take foothold once again. Right, Reza-Boy?
mmm yeah and we should take your Robert Spencer seriously instead of Reza Aslan? Remember , Reza is a HARVARD GRADUATED expert in Islamic studies and he is a faculty member in University of California , Riverside.
One more thing... Josephson is a Nobel laureate in physics, yet in the last decades he has been advocating pure ckracpottery. Its obvious your analogy doesnt hold what you hoped for.
Islam is a cancer. No other group, religious or otherwise, only Islam has ever vowed to take over America as it is already trying to take over much of the world. Islam will not succeed. Reza is a diversion. And I'm still waiting for the wit.
There's nothing to laugh at about islam. Here, see why: put a period back in place of the dot
Yeah you "guess" its all darkness. I have read BOTH "Holy" books. Qur'an is way way way way way way LESS violent than your bible (OT to be more precise) ...God is ORDERING to kill INFANTS and you have problems with Islam? Qur'an NEVER gives a 'general' command to kill "unbelievers" ..The "unbelievers" referred in Qur'an as Quraish tribe and Muhammad's war with them. Take your propaganda to somewhere else!
@auzer1000 There's only One God, He wrote only One Holy Book. All else is fake. If you think that God orders people to kill infants, you don't know the Bible. And BTW auzer1000, Bush and Obbie were supposedly Harvard and Yale graduates and look at the path of destruction they've caused. Being a Harvard or Yale graduate doesn't hold lend any credibility anymore. Same old intellectual secular humanist Marxist Barry Soetero (BS)!
Well there only one book? Which one? LOL! If you are a Muslim, it is Qur'an and if your are Christian...its Bible..duhh ...Also , what does these lines mean to you? [Ezek. 9:5] And the Lord said, "Go through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have you pity. SLAY UTTERLY OLD AND YOUNG, BOTH MAIDS AND LITTLE CHILDREN, AND WOMEN.
Also read [Samuel 15:2-4] , where God is telling to kill INFANTS ! Also , Reza Aslan is a great young scholar..don't you agree?
Well what I am looking for is to engage people to remove ignorance. I am sick of Islamophobes on net. I have read Qur'an and bible both and as I already stated , Bible is more violent. People single out Islam and that pushes Muslims in the corner and they become "more devout" towards their religion. Regarding prophecies..Qur'an has many. Muhammad told many. Even pagan sources had many that became true.Thats not the point. I am an agnostic and I am not discussing theology here
@auzer1000 So Ur trying to get people to have an open mind. Or better put, Ur trying to get Bible believers to allow for other belief systems.
& Ur trying to be the moderator in this open panel discussion.
Admirable. But....you say Ur an agnostic.
I'll be Frank - why should U care or what diff. does if make to U what others believe. Agnostics don't admit to the existence of God though there may be one. More closely, they just don't want there to be a God that they Must obey.
@auzer1000 Because the highest aim and purpose of the Bible is to witness of Jesus Christ.
It is not to throw out prophecies, it's not prove there's a God, it's not to lift one people over another. So, what are you looking for from me. If just an argument - Go Away. But if you're serious, then the first thing you need to know is that the Bible is loaded with contradictions ---------------------------------- if you don't have God's Spirit already in you to understand it.
reza aslan is nothing but a shady islamist.if you think am lying check the debate in ausi about islamic dress where he advocates sharia in the states.this guy should be deported,as a nigerian i dont know why the west welcomes people like these into their countries knowing fully well that it will eventually lead to disaster.
You think that were afraid of Islam or Sharia law? HA. No, Islam is afraid of us. While you can build your mosques as close to a terrorist attack as you want we'll build a Muslim bar for gays right next to it. Saying this on You tube is pointless though, have a great day.
there is no such thing as islamophobia. a phobia is irrational anxiety towards something not rooted in reality, like claustrophobia or agoraphobia.
to oppose islam is rational and rooted in reality. sharia spreads wherever muslims go--england, canada, australia. muslims will try it in the US too, and it's already taking hold.
it's not a hysteria. and btw, it is a mosque and a part of ground zero. the landing gear went through the roof of the building.
@karlsmith00 Everything you just said sounds Islamaphobic to me. Sharia taking over? Please get your head out your ass. And for your information, it's not a mosque, it's a community center with a prayer room no different from the prayer rooms that were in the twin towers, the prayer room in the pentagon, or prayer rooms in the office buildings just across ground zero. Don't get why you're using the word taqiyya when it only means defend yourself from your oppressor. Who's being oppressed? You?
@BabyBang17datruth that's because you're ignorant. islamophobia is bullshit.
A PRAYER ROOM FOR MUSLIMS IS A MOSQUE. christians, jews, hindus, buddhists won't be allowed to pray there.
taqiyya is lying to hide what islam really teaches.
who the fuck do you think you're kidding? you think anybody believes your bullshit. that megamosque will never be built, so deal with it. sharia courts won't open here, like they did in canada, the UK, or australia. stop lying, ignoramus.
@karlsmith00 Ha ha! I'm ignorant? You and other islamophobes are so obsessed for no reason which just amuses me. Give me a break like any rational would believe your shit. You're scared, very scared and I love it! Just for you, I'm gonna dress up as sharia law for halloween. Mohahaahaaaaaaa!!!!!
look at your comment. you're an irrational idiot. and if you're a muslim, i understand why. having a pedophile whore like muhammad as your example causes you to flip out.
@karlsmith00 If there's no such thing as Islamaphobia, then why are you scared? Are you afraid that pigs will be banned or all alcohol will go down the drain? Hmm? The only irrational person is you along with your islamaphobes and as long as this keeps going, I'll continue making you the victim.
telling the truth about your backwards religion and pedophile prophet isn't fear. it's called truth. your pea brain just can't understand it.
you're not making anyone the "victim," you incredible fucking idiot. you sound like a stupid muslim who probably lives in the US or canada, who lives a completely non-muslim life. you know who the victim is? girls and women that live in islamic societies.
@karlsmith00 Now you're just in denial and it shows from your frustration that no one is taking your fears seriously. It's taking a step back word from your rehabilitation process. Just accept it. Everyone has fears, most shouldn't be ashamed, but in your case, you should. Islamaphobia isn't something that goes away overnight, it takes time and a good amount of education. But at the mean time you continue make a good laugh out of nothing. Bravo, bravo!
I wonder what Reza has to say about the murder,Rape and persecution of Christians all around the muslim world? including Egypt,Iran,Pakistan and Jerusalem to name but a few. Believe me I could list almost all muslim countries that are violently persecuting Christians yet he and others like him remain silent on this. But he has plenty to say about people been made aware o9f muslims who want to enforce their dogma on the west.
Aslan the apologist whitewashing the unsupportable aspects of Islam. There is no such thing as Islamaphobia considering too many Muslims do not tell the truth about their religion.
This guy thinks the members of his audience are complete idiots. He thinks they know nothing of how non-muslims and women are treated. He thinks they have never looked at Spencer or Geller's sites that just comment on Islamic attrocities, but that makes them bigots in his eyes. In other words he is saying "believe me, not your eyes" - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtains!
@dancinkindofguy you clearly did not get the video or his points for that matter. i would suggest watching it 2-3 more times. you weren't in his audience were you?
@mehkapiyala16 Hi is deriding Spencer, Geller and any other critics of Islam as "Islamaphobes" I don't know about you, but I think an ideology that tells it followers to slay the non-believers and has left non-beleivers as corpses in New York, London, Madrid, Bali, Mumbai and thousands of other places is definitely something to be "phobic" (feared) of. Catholics and Jews were looked down on by people in the 1800's. This is 2011, no other religion is feared but Islam, is that just random?
@dancinkindofguy no point in arguing with you because you obviously have not read the quran.. i follow it as much as i can, and you don't see me slaying non believers. READ IT, don't be ignorant and come up with your own conclusion. it makes you sound like and idiot
@mehkapiyala16 No point in arguing with me because you have no base to argue upon. He tries to make the case that the "Islamaphobes" of today are like people in the 1800s who came down on Catholics and Jews. Catholics and Jews were not commiting terrorist acts on non Muslims. If modern day Americans are so intolerant, where are the slurs on Hindus, Shintos, Bhuddists, and other religious minorities?
1) You can try to convince me that I am wrong and the Quran does not say this
2) You can try to convince me that being a nonbeliever is actually evil, and that it is more important to believe in god than to be a good person. One response might be that belief and action go hand in hand, and that without belief in god, one cannot be a TRULY good person. I am willing to discuss this response if you find it to be convincing." Why did you delete this??
@l00KWITHIN- this person is an example of this ignorant hatred! Show me the UNCORRUPTED verses tgat say to kill innocent people and to conquer the world by killing and not through passing the islamic faith! Just another islamophobe... prejudice will continue to exist but will be more ignorant due to the easy access to lies and fiction, L00KWITHIN is an example of this!
@L00KWITHIN "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
@L00KWITHIN "O ye who believe!... [do not] kill yourselves, for truly Allah has been to you Most Merciful. If any do that in rancour and injustice, soon shall We cast him into the Fire..." (Qur'an 4:29-30).
"Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause..." (17:33).
Excepting those among the people who associate partners with God with whom you made a treaty, and who have not thereafter failed to fulfill their obligations towards you (required by the treaty), nor have backed anyone against you. Observe, then, your treaty with them until the end of the term (that you agreed with them). Surely God loves the God-revering, pious (who keep their duties to Him).Then, when the (contd)
@L00KWITHIN (contd)(four) sacred months (of respite, during which fighting with those who associate partners with God and violate their treaties was prohibited to you,) are over, then (declare war on them and) kill them wherever you may come upon them, and seize them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every conceivable place. (cont'd)
@L00KWITHIN (contd2)Yet if they repent and (mending their ways) establish the Prescribed Prayer, and pay the Prescribed Purifying Alms, let them go their way. Surely God is All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate. (Quran 9.4-9.5)
this guy is such a liar, islam is so obvious in its message...kill unbelievers, kill apostates, subjugate unbelievers, conquer the world....the last one is ironic because it is exactly the same thing these stupid fags accuse the west of....why dont muslims just suck our kafir freemason dick and stop trying to act smart!
hopefully people are opening their eyes and beginning to realize that the corporate and political propaganda they're hearing about muslim "terrorism" is the exact same kind of fear mongering that was used to justify encroachment on civil liberties during the days of McCarthy and the specter of "communism"
Except that its not. It only is to people who are ignorant of history and current events. Research the Coptic people, the Muslim invasions of Spain, France, Italy, Byzantium. The genocides and attempts to destroy history that are STILL going on in regards to the Armenians, Copts, Buddhists, Hindus, the genocide going on in Kordofan, Papua and Iraq right now (did you know over 70% of Iraqi refugees are Assyrian Christians?) Denying 1400 years of history...
IF?... Anti muslim sentiment is on the rise it has nothing to do with Islamophobia ?? Invented, deliberately, by a MB front organization, to stifle debate
maybe muslim intolerance of gay/lesbians,other sexual minorities, other religious/ethnic minorities, of apostates, freedom of conscience/speech, an aggressive political/association agenda, proven aspect of non-integration, this is all to do with PAYING EDUCATED ATTN TO FACT,not a false islamaphobia concept
@secula4eva if you think its okay to beat someone down to justify the laws of some other people's land, then I doubt your SECULA thoughts will ever hold up. An eye for an eye will make the world go blind.
There is, in fact, a city in Texas named Fairfield. It is on I-45 between Dallas and Houston.Look it up. This guy needs a fact-checker, in more ways than just geography.
There is, in fact, a city in Texas named Fairfield. It is on I-45 between Dallas and Houston.Look it up. This guy needs a fact-checker, in more ways than just geography.
azzclown says: "everything thats being said about America's Muslim community has been said about jews, catholics..."
Hitchens said it best:"Yes, we all recall the Jewish suicide bombers of that period, as we recall the Jewish yells for holy war, the Jewish demands for the veiling of women and the stoning of homosexuals, and the Jewish burning of newspapers that published cartoons they did not like."
@BeyondRelativity the democracy in the U.S is called LIBERAL DEMOCRACY. look it up you idiot before gathering up irrelevant information about the region. what does the kurds have to do with anything? they are SUNNI MUSLIMS who happens to be kurds and not ethnically arab or turkish. and they want their own state, what the fuck does Islam have to do with any of that? and i know they have 'Yazidis" too.
More like Reza Aslan condescends to the public...as a Muslim he is biased towards his own religion. He conveiniently disregards the fact that the larger the Muslim population in a country, the more likely that country is to experience Islamic terrorism. Just ask France, Spain, or the United Kingdom. Even countries that are 100% Muslim cannot escape the tyranny because Sharia *is* tyranny. Aslan also glossed over Dearborne, MI's Sharia controversy rather conveiniently, i thought.
@TheHuntress144 Reza is a stealth jihadi projecting as a professional victim. He falsely claims it isn't a mosque knowing the blueprint contains prayer space - making it a mosque; uses the distance factor w/o acknowledging aircraft wreckage/disintegrated bodies were found there. Bigotry: Islam isn't an ethnicity. Identifying as Muslim in a free country is an arbitrary choice. Opposing Islam is no more racist/bigoted/xenophobic than it is to oppose a medieval church burning witches on stakes.
@Msunbird02 Also, Aslan made an embarrasing error: Fairfield, TX does indeed exist (I looked it up as he suggested), he was probably referring to Frankford, TX (the real city in question) which was annexed into Dallas some time ago therefore *it* no longer exists.
@TheHuntress144 well, farfield TX or franford. his point was made. and it's republican should stop making up shit to get elected. simple as that. and i also want to respond to the ""more muslims you have the more the problems".the muslim community in europe is way different than the one in the U.S. Most of the people who are causing problems over there are convicted in their own countries.which is not the case for Muslims in this country
@Alkindi90 Frankford...it is his responsibility as a self-proclaimed (public) scholar to research the subject properly before public speaking about the events, especially when the delivery is undeniably condescending (and as i stated embarrassingly false). "more Muslims you have more problems"? No, do not misquote me. "the higher the Muslim population, the more likely that country is to experience terrorism". Are you apologizing for the attrocities commited in the name of Allah in Europe? hmm
@Alkindi90 also, I am not republican so your bias towards that party does not affect me, thankfully. Put more thought into your statements in the future please. I certainly hope you are not implying that Aslan's 'point' is that "republicans should stop making shit up to get elected. simple as that".
@TheHuntress144 as a matter of fact it is. because the point was neither any of the mentioned cities were under "Sharia law" so why did Angel made that up? because she is a dumb moron who want to get elected. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT
@Alkindi90 The politician in question (Sharon Angle) is obviously an idiot, although I hope you are not implying that the GOP is the only party who "makes shit up"? This doesn't seem to be a fair conversation since you clearly have no clue and English (hopefully) is not your first language.
@TheHuntress144 I'm talking about Muslims. i don't care if democrats do or don't. and what is it that i "clearly have no clue about?" Muslims? or the republican bullshit on Islam and Muslims?
@TheHuntress144 yes shithead, Al-kindi is not exactly an American name! btw, eventhough it is not my first language, i'm standing up to idiots like you.which speak to your level of intelligence really.
@Alkindi90 i had no idea that was your name or even what your screen name meant. i don't judge people based on their screen name. Your horrible grammar gave you away. Your desire to use grade school language in conversation speaks volumes regarding *your* maturity and intelligence level. As an Islamic apologist you'll have a lot to answer for so I'll leave the rest to you. No point arguing with an individual who defends violent religious dogma and can't communicate beyond a first grade level.
@TheHuntress144 i might grammatical mistakes. usually i forget to add an "s" to a plural or so. but demonizing your challenger to avoid a debate is an old school trick used by many to avoid exposing their ignorance on the subject. so let me rephrase what you said to me, YOU are the one who have no clue whatsoever about the issue. open a book and stop being being the idiot fuck you are :)
@TheHuntress144 i might" have" so you don't freak out and assume that i can't communicate beyond first grade! i just forgot to add the " have". PLEASE do not think i can't communicate beyond first level English. and i'm not "Islamic apologist". all im doing is proving that you are all are just stupid :)
@Alkindi90 why are we stupid? we refuse to submit to Sharia...is that why? I have read enough to know that Islam is a supreme example of oppression of rights Western civilization and the US constitution deems mandatory...women still can't vote in Saudi Arabia. Is this the kind of liberation I'm missing out on? I'll carry on as an infidel thank you very much and you'll be sad to know there isn't a thing you can say or do to wipe away the atrocities the Islamic faith commits daily.
@TheHuntress144 haha you told me to put more thought in my comments, yet you accuse me of wanting you to submit to Sharia Law? you know how many muslim countries are using Sharia ( of course as a legislative branch) ? they are not more than 10. no one except extremists want to do such thing. and even when it comes to extremist, it is really not that black or white.
Aslan's put out false information meaning his point was fraudulent and neutered.
"Most of the people who are causing problems over there are convicted in their own countries": ROFL If that was so, they'd never have gotten into Europe in the first place b/c of mandatory police checks!
@Msunbird02 yes they can dumbshit. Abo hamza al-masri, is wanted in egypt and he is in London. Sa'ad al-faqih is wanted in Saudi Arabia and he is london as well. it is the british government who gave this kind political refugee statuses.
Al Masri migrated to England in 1979 at age 21 as a STUDENT and naturalized as a British subject in 1981 after marrying a local. His UK citizenship was revoked in 2003. His record was clean at time of entry.
@secula4eva just look at the arguments in this page and see how dumb a lot of people in this country are. Islam is a blasphemy, satanic, not "Abrahamic" etc. you may not care about any of that, but a lot of dummies here think these are reasons to hate! Ann Coulter, a conservative fucktard said that the U.S should invade every "Islamic" country and convert them to Christianity! i would love it if so called liberals like you stand up to this nonsense!
What's nonsensical about it? It's about mistrust, not "hate". I'd really like to know the migration statistics for non-muslims to the middle east based on lifestyle factors alone.
@Msunbird02 the more you talk the more you prove how unbelievably stupid you are. mistrust anyone based on his religious belief is regared as bigotry. the Nazi weren't just saying we hate jews. no they also "mistrusted" them. mistrust eventually lead to hate you stupid shit. my god, do you listen to yourself? haha you didn't what say so you brought up Mohammed and his concubines. pathetic!
@Msunbird02 and here you prove that you are indeed a racist SOB. people immigrate all the time. mainly economical and political reasons. when we talk about Islam as a religion we are not talking about governments and states.and BTW, a lot of westerns come and work in DUBAI, Qatar, Kuwait. and i'm not going to mention the American military bases over there. i'd like to know based on lifestyle! drop dead
Note I specifically referred to "lifestyle factors alone", not economic / political factors b/c I know people move there for work. Islam is a theocracy which IS a form of government. Muslims operate military "cells" out of the USA, don't they?
About bigotry / racism: Islam is NOT an ethnicity and Muslims are not members of 'the Islamic race'. Muslims come from all races and ethnicities. Identifying as Muslim in any free country is a personal, arbitrary choice. Opposing Islam is no more racist, bigoted and xenophobic than it would be racist, bigoted and xenophobic to oppose Communism, violent Fascism or the medieval State church burning unbelievers (or witches) on stakes - which Islam still does.
@Msunbird02 NO as a matter if fact it is. because you are not opposing a practice. you are opposing people. so when you say i "mistrust" Muslims, it is the definition of bigotry and phobia. no one would bother himself talking to a dumbfuck like you if you said, i don't approve stoning . because stoning is a practice. but you are saying I MISTRUST MUSLIMS which make you a bigot.
Wrong. It is the ideology of Islam that's mistrusted. Muslims are self-inflicted victims of Islam's practices that they refuse to amend. This has nothing to do with bigotry or phobia. All Muslims are phobic and bigoted towards non-Muslims b/c they refuse to change Islamic practices. Domination is hard wired throughout Islamic texts.
@Msunbird02 hahaha you are amusing. domination is hard wired throughout Christian text. and i have provided many example of that before. for the million time, it is all about interpretation. all religions share a similar violent history. and revolutions in MUSLIMS MAJORITY countries have been waging for months. and Islamic teachings of social justice motivated many of these protesters.
"domination is hard wired throughout Christian text": Really? I'm still waiting for references from the 10 Commandments.
"revolutions in MUSLIMS MAJORITY countries have been waging for months": proves Islam doesn't work as a viable system of government anywhere in any format. It will only ever be replaced by another hybridised regime of the same old remixed repressive practices.
@Msunbird02 and look, when you call Muslims victims of islam? what do you want exactly?so i stop calling you a bigot :)
do you want them to convert to Christianity? if you do, you are not different than Al-Qaeda. if you hate them for being Muslims even though they are struggling in a country to be accepted, than you are a bigoted SOB. so what the fuck do you want? out of this meaningless conversation?
Muslims always will be self-imposed victims and I don't care if you want to call me a bigot b/c I know you're lying and trying to intimidate (as approved in Islam). There's no sustainable reason for non-muslims to 'accept' muslims when they aren't allowed to accept others as equals by order of a criminally insane 7th century goatherd.
@Msunbird02 But all religions do not allow their followers to accept others. all religions. but again, people develop and start look for alternatives. and religion cannot a form of government in any way. so they abandon the teachings that suggests violent behavior toward others because it is not going to work out. some did not and that is their problem. but clearly you do not even want Muslims to change for the better :)
@TheHuntress144 have you ever heard any of Bin laden speeches to know his position on the Kingdom? of course not. because you are so stupid to even do that!!
@Alkindi90 I have disproven your assertion that religion and gov't are not synonymous in the middle-east and you divert the argument to terrorist extremists instead. Unfortunatley,the anti-American views held by terrorist organizations are not all that different from Islamic governments themselves. You ignore that oppression of women (among other groups) is driven intrinsically by Islam. Finally, King Abdullah is Muslim and his power as a monarch is absolute.
@TheHuntress144 Syria is a secular government and its relation with the united states is unstable. Saudi Arabia claim to hold Islamic teachings as a constitution ( which is the subject of condemnation all across the islamic majorty countries) yet their relationship with U.S is more than perfect. Jordan is a monarchy but it is a constitutional one, and its king is a muslim from the Hashim clan ( Mohammed's clan) and they diplomatic relations with Israel. so what the fuck is your point?
@Alkindi90 Yes, oil is a powerful influence and King Abdullah knows how to weild that economic power accordingly. Trust me, I don't enjoy the relationship Saudi Arabia has with the west at all, never mind just America. The point is to prove that Religion and gov't is synonymous in the middle-east, unavoidable and abhorrent as that is, and you stated "religion cannot form a gov't in any way". False, I'm afraid. Although Islam is not the only faith guilty of this crime.....
@TheHuntress144 okay, read the history of the Al-Saud dynasty and see what is their deal with Islam. because even by the standards of al-qaeda, they are considered wrong. and when i said religion cannot form a government i didn't mean it is not possible, i meant that it won't work and it will eventually vanish.
@TheHuntress144 but you didn't respond, Syria is a secualr government, yet its secularsim did not prevent it form being anti America, did it? Saddam Hussain's Iraq was secular as well. Indonesia, the biggest muslim country have a normal relation with the U.S, don't they?
@Alkindi90 Only because I was referring to Saudi Arabia and not Syria, Jordan etc. Anyway, yes those countries are secular and not ruled by an Islamic king, however, they are still overwhelmingly Muslim. American politicians have a nasty habit of overlooking atrocities commited by a nation, even exacting violence on their own people, when money or political clout is involved. Most violence commited in the name of Allah is exacted upon other Muslims...
@TheHuntress144 aha! so you are saying that massacres are taking place in Syria are committed in the name of Allah? is that what you are saying? because i really need to know that before responding HAHAHA
@Alkindi90 I never directly said Syria was doing that...*sigh*. Quit putting words in my mouth that doesn't make you 'right', taking very vague statements i made and then attempting to purposefully misinterpret what was said.
Between March 2010 and May 2010, 2,000 people were killed in the name of Islam...mostly Muslim people. "You are not much different from your Msulim bretheren", not identical...please grow up.
@TheHuntress144 this is what you said, "American politicians have a nasty habit of overlooking atrocities commited by a nation, even exacting violence on their own people, when money or political clout is involved. Most violence commited in the name of Allah is exacted upon other Muslims". and which "Islamic" countries are committing violence against their people now? Libya and Syria. BOTH SECULAR. and if you want me to take you seriously, provide examples,
@Alkindi90 You are not an American citizen? You have no desire to be an American citizen? Good. There are enough overgrown children in this country without adding another to the population. you come to America to learn? More power to you...learn to converse and conduct yourself with some class and respect. I have no desire to continue this conversation. It's late and I'm tired. Have fun fighting with random strangers on the internet....
@TheHuntress144 good you realize that population in this country has enough overgrown children. but the catastrophe is when overgrown children whose English is not their mother tongue OWN adults who are capable of speaking English :)
@Alkindi90 "this country" and you don't live in America? Your last post is barely legible and "OWNED" doesn't mean you are right. would you like to account for the 2,000 Muslims killed in the name of Allah in the space of three months?
@TheHuntress144 WOW! so you are really stupid? i'm in America you stupid fucktard! and yes, as i said if you want me to take you seriously, provide examples. but don't you think that you are contradicting the assumption that Muslims are terrorists and want to impose Sharia law when they are victims of terrorism themselves? and yes i owned your ass when i provided examples of countries that does not consider Sharia as a mean of legislation. while "islamic" monarchies have relations with Israel :)
@TheHuntress144 you said "islamic" countries are anti-america because they are overwhelmingly muslims. yet Syria, Iraq, Libya, Cuba, Valenzuela they have an unstable relation with "this country". while Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, and many more have normal relationships with the U.S and some with Israel. you said Saudi Arabia is an "Islamic Monarchy" because its king is a Muslim. but you didn't know that it is actually not even by the standards of extremists. exposed your ignorant
@TheHuntress144 Saudi arabia is Not islamic absolute monarchy. because there is no such thing as Islamic monarchy or Islamic democracy. there are democracies and monarchies
@Alkindi90 You should have more respect for the people you start fights with on the internet. Your childish assertions do not make you correct simply because you refuse to admit you are wrong.
@TheHuntress144 hahaha fair enough, i will when you stop assuming that i want to impose my religious beliefs on you because i came from an islamic background.
@Alkindi90 Fine. You (specifically) do not want me to convert to Islam, but if you live in the US unfortunatley you are not typical of the Muslim population, over 99% of which exists outside the borders of the United States.
@TheHuntress144 im not an american citizen and im not planing to be. i'm a student who choose to learn in the U.S and go back to his country with all the great stuff i learned. and all i learned is that you are not different at all :)
Btw, have you noticed the insults YOU are hurling around freely at others here? Why not give some consideration to the level of offence you're deliberately causing others.
@Msunbird02 because there no reason for being polite with idiots like you. YOU deliberately repeating the same points over and over again. when you are cornered you bring up an irrelevant topic to the table. another one is gathering information about the ethnic conflicts in the middle east and trying so hard to accuse Islam as the reason behind them. and third idiot, left it everything Reza is talking about and emphasizing that it is actually frankford not farfield. and that's make Reza an idio
Mate, it's obvious you don't have what it takes to "corner" me by a long shot.
You can't even explain what Allah would want with a fifth of Muhammad's war booty or why non-muslims should regard themselves as superior beings when they can't even operate a system of government without inducing mass internal revolt. Guess what? Islam IS the reason behind it b/c that doesn't happen in western democracies.
@secula4eva so as homophobia! it is a an invented term. he is not saying criticizing Islam or the radical jihadist is considered "islamphobic", it is about networks like fox news who makes up lais to make the public afraid of Muslims. if any republican candidate want to gain support in this country, he gotta go out there and say how much he despise Muslims! than the debate change from simply exchanging ideas and beliefs into hate and prejudice toward every Muslim, or even look like one
IF?... Anti muslim sentiment is on the rise it has nothing to do with Islamophobia ?? Invented, deliberately, by a MB front organization, to stifle debate
maybe muslim intolerance of gay/lesbians,other sexual minorities, other religious/ethnic minorities, of apostates, freedom of conscience/speech, an aggressive political/association agenda, proven aspect of non-integration, this is all to do with PAYING EDUCATED ATTN TO FACT,not a false islamaphobia concept
@BeyondRelativity And actually the united states did a good job by not supporting the leftist regimes. because they were socilaist and marxists. you don't even know your country stance on such ideologies do you?
@BeyondRelativity well, it's true i didn't say the U.S is evil it politics. there is no black or white. and i agree we shouldn't blame the U.S for everything and that is something Muslims in Arab speaking countries are working on.Islam is like all religions. the problem of people in the U.S is the over simplification of issues. there are social,political, and historical grievances that paved the way to radical group to influence a lot of aspect of Muslims lives. hope you got my point
@BeyondRelativity I didn't really understand what you were trying to say. these groups that see terrorism as a mean to reach objective. were financed by the CIA in the 1980s until they got out of control. and you know why they supported them? to establish an alternative to the leftest Arab movement. they thought it would be better for America to create regimes like saudi Arabia all over the region. well, it turned out you were dead wrong.
@BeyondRelativity I'm a middle eastern. who said they or (I) liked Saddam Hussain? i came from a sunni background to. Saddam hussain was secular ba'athist like Bashar al-asad of Syria ( who is a Shite BTW). you mentioned saddam hussain for some reason to try to convince me that islam is evil. no sir YOU should open a book :)
to understand the Sharia hysteria, no matter how you try to refute their accusations they will continue bitching that Muslims have "hidden agenda". these people do not go away with reason and logic. the media will have to stop make it mainstream and they will go back to their holes. they are not interested in a dialogue . they hate Muslims for not believing in JESUS! just as simple as that.
Pls understand this. Not all faith systems believe in Jesus. In general, people don't like or trust followers of Islam b/c of what's prescribed in the Qur'an about compulsory sanctioned violence, misogyny and world domination. It isn't about "not believing in Jesus".
@Msunbird02 well, thank you for that. i didn't know that not all "faith systems" believe in Jesus. your problem dickead is that you stopped talking about the concept of violence in Islam and jumped on to discuss the Islamic mythology. in a pathetic attempt to refute the violence verses of the bible that i provided. you Contradict yourself by accusing Islam of the same thing you are practicing. don't say most people mistrust. Muslims are in every corner of the earth. speak about yourself.
@Alkindi90 You misunderstand. My purpose was to show that the ONLY code of behaviour that is central to Judeo-Christianity is the 10 Commandments (as given to Moses as God's Law) to prove to you that the Islamic dogma can't possibly legitimately claim to be of Abrahamic origin contrary to an obvious Islamic lie. Well, I recently read a study that showed 63% of people in one western country I won't name were anti-Islam. Mind you, I didn't participate in that study.
@Msunbird02 Again, that is what you want to believe. and you keep smearing the entire religion. you may say the 10 commandments are the code behavior of "judeo -christianty". that is certainly not the case for the orthodox Jews, the KKK, white supremacy groups, Nazis, the crusades, etc. the point you don't seem to be getting is that religion is a matter of two things. Faith and interpretation. again, not interested in discussing mythology. but here is what the Jewish scholar ibn maimon said con
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ThePayola123 6 days ago
I'd be friends with Osama Bin Laden and not REZA. Osama was BLUNT and direct and FAITHFUL to his religion and the scriptures. REZA will perform all the acrobatics possible to tell his audience there's no sharia and nothing to worry about it. He'll pull a rabbit out of his ass (he will) to mislead people that there's NO, NOTHING wrong with SHARIA and it's all the boogye men ...or UNICORNS...The average IDIOT will buy his BCrap...REZA makes me nauseous with his demeanor and platitudes.
BetuliaLiberata 1 week ago
I have never heard of him..until now...GIMMICKY and condescending,..nothing he speaks about is given out with facts. The work of R Spencer is nothing beyond reporting facts of what is going on in the middle-east and the west in regards to Muslim..be it terrorism or the encroachment of Sharia into legal decision by judges and MUCH more. I dare anyone to follow Jihad watch for one week..ONE WEEk...and tell me Spencer is a not truth warrior. READ the Koran people, and you see REZA is a LYING SNAKE
BetuliaLiberata 1 week ago
He's such a acting clown...smart people that have read the Koran,..KNOW he's lying
BetuliaLiberata 1 week ago
it does not matter how nice he spins it the facts dont lie! islam and freedom do not co exsist they are opposites i live in the uk and i can see the changes to this country (muslim enclaves were you are not made to feel welcome quite the opposite) these grow larger year upon year but maybe its because im a bigot, racist, islamaphobe etc etc. Religion of peace???? until you scratch the surface! But he puts its it across so well i wish it was true :(
spytube7373 1 week ago
@spytube7373 THE FACT IS he DID not spin NOTHING...I can just see a debate between him and Robert Spencer...or Ayaan Hirsi Ali...he'd melt right there in front of the audience like snow on a spring day...Look at this quick 5 min video...ALL he does is gestures and mannerisms.(people laugh...hardly....I bet he's gay...nothing against..I AM GAY...but then,..would he not be HANGED IN IRAN?..,..just saying).. REZA IS a clown, ow people could sit and listen to his speech is beyond me...
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"Pakistan: Growing Concerns About Extremism, Continuing Discontent with U.S."
bit(.)ly/KOPEQ
"The new poll finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78% favor death for those who leave Islam; 80% favor whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83% favor stoning adulterers."
Reminds me of the medievals. Im glad those times are long gone. No need to open the doors so this nonsense can take foothold once again. Right, Reza-Boy?
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago 3
You cant take Reza-Boy seriously anymore. Not even as a comedian! LOL
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago 6
@Wrath0fKhan
mmm yeah and we should take your Robert Spencer seriously instead of Reza Aslan? Remember , Reza is a HARVARD GRADUATED expert in Islamic studies and he is a faculty member in University of California , Riverside.
auzer1000 3 weeks ago
@auzer1000
"Robert Spencer seriously"
Robert Spencer =! pewresearch
Robert Spencer =! islamicfinder
Your argument = invalid
"expert in Islamic studies"
That may well be. However, he doesnt sound like one.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago 2
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@Wrath0fKhan
I couldn't get your comment .... What does you mean by
Robert Spencer =! pewresearch
Robert Spencer =! islamicfinder
Your argument = invalid
????
Whats your point, sir? I see Reza Aslan as MORE credible than Spencer..do you agree or not?
auzer1000 3 weeks ago
@auzer1000
"Harvard graduated"
One more thing... Josephson is a Nobel laureate in physics, yet in the last decades he has been advocating pure ckracpottery. Its obvious your analogy doesnt hold what you hoped for.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
Would you believe this? "Islamicfinder" refutes Reza in a second or two. LOL
islamicfinder(.)org/prayerDetail.php?country=usa&city=Fairfield&state=TX&lang=english&home=2012-1-20
bit(.)ly/zf1HBS
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Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago
Islam is a cancer. No other group, religious or otherwise, only Islam has ever vowed to take over America as it is already trying to take over much of the world. Islam will not succeed. Reza is a diversion. And I'm still waiting for the wit.
There's nothing to laugh at about islam. Here, see why: put a period back in place of the dot
atlasshrugs2000.typepaddotcom/honor_killings/
largraf 1 month ago
@largraf
You believe that aging porn actress Geller?
yellowstarable 3 weeks ago
@yellowstarable Sure sign of when a person has lost his argument position. When he can't win the issue, attack the character of the opponent.
Did you know that the word 'love' is not in the Koran? I guess it's all darkness.
largraf 3 weeks ago 3
@largraf
Yeah you "guess" its all darkness. I have read BOTH "Holy" books. Qur'an is way way way way way way LESS violent than your bible (OT to be more precise) ...God is ORDERING to kill INFANTS and you have problems with Islam? Qur'an NEVER gives a 'general' command to kill "unbelievers" ..The "unbelievers" referred in Qur'an as Quraish tribe and Muhammad's war with them. Take your propaganda to somewhere else!
auzer1000 3 weeks ago
@auzer1000 There's only One God, He wrote only One Holy Book. All else is fake. If you think that God orders people to kill infants, you don't know the Bible. And BTW auzer1000, Bush and Obbie were supposedly Harvard and Yale graduates and look at the path of destruction they've caused. Being a Harvard or Yale graduate doesn't hold lend any credibility anymore. Same old intellectual secular humanist Marxist Barry Soetero (BS)!
largraf 3 weeks ago
@largraf
Well there only one book? Which one? LOL! If you are a Muslim, it is Qur'an and if your are Christian...its Bible..duhh ...Also , what does these lines mean to you? [Ezek. 9:5] And the Lord said, "Go through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have you pity. SLAY UTTERLY OLD AND YOUNG, BOTH MAIDS AND LITTLE CHILDREN, AND WOMEN.
Also read [Samuel 15:2-4] , where God is telling to kill INFANTS ! Also , Reza Aslan is a great young scholar..don't you agree?
auzer1000 3 weeks ago
@auzer1000 For what reason are you trying to engage me? Convince me of something? Surely you're not looking for friendly chatter.
Isn't it curious that the world today is on a path predicted long ago in the Bible?
Isn't it curious that after almost 2,000 years, the Jewish people have a homeland again - as promised by God in the Bible?
So if these things are true, and these are the things that the Bible alone relates, then what does that mean about Jesus Christ?
largraf 3 weeks ago
@largraf
Well what I am looking for is to engage people to remove ignorance. I am sick of Islamophobes on net. I have read Qur'an and bible both and as I already stated , Bible is more violent. People single out Islam and that pushes Muslims in the corner and they become "more devout" towards their religion. Regarding prophecies..Qur'an has many. Muhammad told many. Even pagan sources had many that became true.Thats not the point. I am an agnostic and I am not discussing theology here
auzer1000 3 weeks ago
@auzer1000 So Ur trying to get people to have an open mind. Or better put, Ur trying to get Bible believers to allow for other belief systems.
& Ur trying to be the moderator in this open panel discussion.
Admirable. But....you say Ur an agnostic.
I'll be Frank - why should U care or what diff. does if make to U what others believe. Agnostics don't admit to the existence of God though there may be one. More closely, they just don't want there to be a God that they Must obey.
Well?
largraf 3 weeks ago
@auzer1000 Because the highest aim and purpose of the Bible is to witness of Jesus Christ.
It is not to throw out prophecies, it's not prove there's a God, it's not to lift one people over another. So, what are you looking for from me. If just an argument - Go Away. But if you're serious, then the first thing you need to know is that the Bible is loaded with contradictions ---------------------------------- if you don't have God's Spirit already in you to understand it.
largraf 3 weeks ago
@largraf
you are an idiot for sure.
Jesus; "..I bring you NOT peace but sword" Mathew 10:34
And just forget about bloodthirsty Deuteronomy.
yellowstarable 2 weeks ago
@yellowstarable Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself. I am at peace with Yeshua. You get the sword part. Get the point?
largraf 2 weeks ago
@largraf
hahahaha WHAT?!?!?!?! You giving Pamella Geller as your 'source'? A R E Y O U K I D D I N G M E ?
auzer1000 3 weeks ago
reza aslan is nothing but a shady islamist.if you think am lying check the debate in ausi about islamic dress where he advocates sharia in the states.this guy should be deported,as a nigerian i dont know why the west welcomes people like these into their countries knowing fully well that it will eventually lead to disaster.
jayudoka 1 month ago
You think that were afraid of Islam or Sharia law? HA. No, Islam is afraid of us. While you can build your mosques as close to a terrorist attack as you want we'll build a Muslim bar for gays right next to it. Saying this on You tube is pointless though, have a great day.
Gaelheretic4 2 months ago
"..........there is no such place as Fairfield, Texas...I'm not kidding, look it up"
He IS kidding.
dhimmiwit 2 months ago 2
Why is Reza insinuating that Robert Spencer is Jewish? Is this the Islamic way of vilifying an opponent? By accusing them of being Jewish?
dhimmiwit 2 months ago 3
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IncomingMonkeyTurd 3 months ago 2
there is no such thing as islamophobia. a phobia is irrational anxiety towards something not rooted in reality, like claustrophobia or agoraphobia.
to oppose islam is rational and rooted in reality. sharia spreads wherever muslims go--england, canada, australia. muslims will try it in the US too, and it's already taking hold.
it's not a hysteria. and btw, it is a mosque and a part of ground zero. the landing gear went through the roof of the building.
this is taqiyya. look it up.
karlsmith00 4 months ago
@karlsmith00 Everything you just said sounds Islamaphobic to me. Sharia taking over? Please get your head out your ass. And for your information, it's not a mosque, it's a community center with a prayer room no different from the prayer rooms that were in the twin towers, the prayer room in the pentagon, or prayer rooms in the office buildings just across ground zero. Don't get why you're using the word taqiyya when it only means defend yourself from your oppressor. Who's being oppressed? You?
BabyBang17datruth 3 months ago
@BabyBang17datruth that's because you're ignorant. islamophobia is bullshit.
A PRAYER ROOM FOR MUSLIMS IS A MOSQUE. christians, jews, hindus, buddhists won't be allowed to pray there.
taqiyya is lying to hide what islam really teaches.
who the fuck do you think you're kidding? you think anybody believes your bullshit. that megamosque will never be built, so deal with it. sharia courts won't open here, like they did in canada, the UK, or australia. stop lying, ignoramus.
karlsmith00 3 months ago
@karlsmith00 Ha ha! I'm ignorant? You and other islamophobes are so obsessed for no reason which just amuses me. Give me a break like any rational would believe your shit. You're scared, very scared and I love it! Just for you, I'm gonna dress up as sharia law for halloween. Mohahaahaaaaaaa!!!!!
BabyBang17datruth 3 months ago
@BabyBang17datruth THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ISLAMOPHOBIA, IDIOT.
look at your comment. you're an irrational idiot. and if you're a muslim, i understand why. having a pedophile whore like muhammad as your example causes you to flip out.
you know nothing. shut up.
karlsmith00 3 months ago
@karlsmith00 If there's no such thing as Islamaphobia, then why are you scared? Are you afraid that pigs will be banned or all alcohol will go down the drain? Hmm? The only irrational person is you along with your islamaphobes and as long as this keeps going, I'll continue making you the victim.
BabyBang17datruth 3 months ago
@BabyBang17datruth i'm not scared, dumb bitch.
telling the truth about your backwards religion and pedophile prophet isn't fear. it's called truth. your pea brain just can't understand it.
you're not making anyone the "victim," you incredible fucking idiot. you sound like a stupid muslim who probably lives in the US or canada, who lives a completely non-muslim life. you know who the victim is? girls and women that live in islamic societies.
you're a fucking moron.
karlsmith00 3 months ago
@karlsmith00 Now you're just in denial and it shows from your frustration that no one is taking your fears seriously. It's taking a step back word from your rehabilitation process. Just accept it. Everyone has fears, most shouldn't be ashamed, but in your case, you should. Islamaphobia isn't something that goes away overnight, it takes time and a good amount of education. But at the mean time you continue make a good laugh out of nothing. Bravo, bravo!
BabyBang17datruth 3 months ago
@karlsmith00 Right on, islam is a cancer.
DLarson1083 1 month ago
@BabyBang17datruth You go girl!!!!
DKB786 2 months ago
I wonder what Reza has to say about the murder,Rape and persecution of Christians all around the muslim world? including Egypt,Iran,Pakistan and Jerusalem to name but a few. Believe me I could list almost all muslim countries that are violently persecuting Christians yet he and others like him remain silent on this. But he has plenty to say about people been made aware o9f muslims who want to enforce their dogma on the west.
FeignofCordor 4 months ago
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thumbs up if you know that allah was mohammads alter ego and the pages of the quran should be used to roll joints!
L00KWITHIN 4 months ago
Insofar as Islam seeks to establish political order, why shouldn't we consider Islam antithetical to American values?
johnjsal 4 months ago
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Aslan the apologist whitewashing the unsupportable aspects of Islam. There is no such thing as Islamaphobia considering too many Muslims do not tell the truth about their religion.
greenarcher180 4 months ago
This guy thinks the members of his audience are complete idiots. He thinks they know nothing of how non-muslims and women are treated. He thinks they have never looked at Spencer or Geller's sites that just comment on Islamic attrocities, but that makes them bigots in his eyes. In other words he is saying "believe me, not your eyes" - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtains!
dancinkindofguy 5 months ago
@dancinkindofguy you clearly did not get the video or his points for that matter. i would suggest watching it 2-3 more times. you weren't in his audience were you?
mehkapiyala16 4 months ago
@mehkapiyala16 Hi is deriding Spencer, Geller and any other critics of Islam as "Islamaphobes" I don't know about you, but I think an ideology that tells it followers to slay the non-believers and has left non-beleivers as corpses in New York, London, Madrid, Bali, Mumbai and thousands of other places is definitely something to be "phobic" (feared) of. Catholics and Jews were looked down on by people in the 1800's. This is 2011, no other religion is feared but Islam, is that just random?
dancinkindofguy 4 months ago
@dancinkindofguy no point in arguing with you because you obviously have not read the quran.. i follow it as much as i can, and you don't see me slaying non believers. READ IT, don't be ignorant and come up with your own conclusion. it makes you sound like and idiot
mehkapiyala16 4 months ago
@mehkapiyala16 No point in arguing with me because you have no base to argue upon. He tries to make the case that the "Islamaphobes" of today are like people in the 1800s who came down on Catholics and Jews. Catholics and Jews were not commiting terrorist acts on non Muslims. If modern day Americans are so intolerant, where are the slurs on Hindus, Shintos, Bhuddists, and other religious minorities?
dancinkindofguy 4 months ago
"@KpopManiacSFL .....
1) You can try to convince me that I am wrong and the Quran does not say this
2) You can try to convince me that being a nonbeliever is actually evil, and that it is more important to believe in god than to be a good person. One response might be that belief and action go hand in hand, and that without belief in god, one cannot be a TRULY good person. I am willing to discuss this response if you find it to be convincing." Why did you delete this??
KpopManiacSFL 5 months ago
Total BULLSHIT!
timjohan 5 months ago
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WonderBread006 5 months ago
@l00KWITHIN- this person is an example of this ignorant hatred! Show me the UNCORRUPTED verses tgat say to kill innocent people and to conquer the world by killing and not through passing the islamic faith! Just another islamophobe... prejudice will continue to exist but will be more ignorant due to the easy access to lies and fiction, L00KWITHIN is an example of this!
KpopManiacSFL 6 months ago
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L00KWITHIN 6 months ago
@L00KWITHIN "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
KpopManiacSFL 5 months ago
@L00KWITHIN "O ye who believe!... [do not] kill yourselves, for truly Allah has been to you Most Merciful. If any do that in rancour and injustice, soon shall We cast him into the Fire..." (Qur'an 4:29-30).
"Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause..." (17:33).
KpopManiacSFL 5 months ago
Excepting those among the people who associate partners with God with whom you made a treaty, and who have not thereafter failed to fulfill their obligations towards you (required by the treaty), nor have backed anyone against you. Observe, then, your treaty with them until the end of the term (that you agreed with them). Surely God loves the God-revering, pious (who keep their duties to Him).Then, when the (contd)
KpopManiacSFL 5 months ago
@L00KWITHIN (contd)(four) sacred months (of respite, during which fighting with those who associate partners with God and violate their treaties was prohibited to you,) are over, then (declare war on them and) kill them wherever you may come upon them, and seize them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every conceivable place. (cont'd)
KpopManiacSFL 5 months ago
@L00KWITHIN (contd2)Yet if they repent and (mending their ways) establish the Prescribed Prayer, and pay the Prescribed Purifying Alms, let them go their way. Surely God is All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate. (Quran 9.4-9.5)
KpopManiacSFL 5 months ago
this guy is such a liar, islam is so obvious in its message...kill unbelievers, kill apostates, subjugate unbelievers, conquer the world....the last one is ironic because it is exactly the same thing these stupid fags accuse the west of....why dont muslims just suck our kafir freemason dick and stop trying to act smart!
L00KWITHIN 6 months ago
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iamwhoiam1964 6 months ago
Where there's smoke, there's fire. I'll trust the brain that evolution gave me.
penlovmov 7 months ago
"Islamophobe" .. Whoever uses this phrase, is a fan of Khomenei , since he made up this propaganda term.
sooperfukker 7 months ago
dude.......
fact, 95% of terrorist attacks by islamic motivates ....propaganda??
and, independant reports over 80% mosques/muslim schools teach antisemitism..propaganda??
and, another.. growing issue of seperation/non integration where muslim communities
grow & use aggressive association...and ...and ...and you know these what we used to call facts,(& not only in the US)
remember them FACTS...nothing focuses the mind back to reality
than being BLOWN UP
for goodness sake man
WAKE UP
secula4eva 8 months ago
hopefully people are opening their eyes and beginning to realize that the corporate and political propaganda they're hearing about muslim "terrorism" is the exact same kind of fear mongering that was used to justify encroachment on civil liberties during the days of McCarthy and the specter of "communism"
John5000873 8 months ago
@John5000873
Except that its not. It only is to people who are ignorant of history and current events. Research the Coptic people, the Muslim invasions of Spain, France, Italy, Byzantium. The genocides and attempts to destroy history that are STILL going on in regards to the Armenians, Copts, Buddhists, Hindus, the genocide going on in Kordofan, Papua and Iraq right now (did you know over 70% of Iraqi refugees are Assyrian Christians?) Denying 1400 years of history...
Ambiduros 7 months ago
beat down????
look the facts are below if you want to check, they are true
you wanna snipe...bye
secula4eva 8 months ago
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Lying sack of shit!
lwecool 8 months ago
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IF?... Anti muslim sentiment is on the rise it has nothing to do with Islamophobia ?? Invented, deliberately, by a MB front organization, to stifle debate
maybe muslim intolerance of gay/lesbians,other sexual minorities, other religious/ethnic minorities, of apostates, freedom of conscience/speech, an aggressive political/association agenda, proven aspect of non-integration, this is all to do with PAYING EDUCATED ATTN TO FACT,not a false islamaphobia concept
secula4eva 8 months ago
@secula4eva if you think its okay to beat someone down to justify the laws of some other people's land, then I doubt your SECULA thoughts will ever hold up. An eye for an eye will make the world go blind.
sandman2425 8 months ago
if Mr Asslans entire dissertation was based on, islamophobia,
a concocted phenom, an invented term, a lie that is intended to deceive, a totally false concept.
Then one has to ask, what value is his er..."qualified" opinion?
It laughably insinuates that any reservations about Islam must ipso facto be "phobic." phobia - irrational fear, concern or dislike.
Islam very often manifests precisely this feature, (fear, concern, dislike)
thus, suspicion of it is by no means irrational
secula4eva 8 months ago
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There is, in fact, a city in Texas named Fairfield. It is on I-45 between Dallas and Houston.Look it up. This guy needs a fact-checker, in more ways than just geography.
shootisttx15 8 months ago
There is, in fact, a city in Texas named Fairfield. It is on I-45 between Dallas and Houston.Look it up. This guy needs a fact-checker, in more ways than just geography.
shootisttx15 8 months ago
aslan is a bought and paid mouthpiece for the islamic republic of iran or an advisory board member of niac, which is the same.
nacazp 8 months ago
azzclown says: "everything thats being said about America's Muslim community has been said about jews, catholics..."
Hitchens said it best:"Yes, we all recall the Jewish suicide bombers of that period, as we recall the Jewish yells for holy war, the Jewish demands for the veiling of women and the stoning of homosexuals, and the Jewish burning of newspapers that published cartoons they did not like."
nacazp 8 months ago
Goto Wiki,
Find a sentence,
Change the sentence's context,
Post it here,
There! You are a Youtube God!
threewing 8 months ago
@BeyondRelativity the democracy in the U.S is called LIBERAL DEMOCRACY. look it up you idiot before gathering up irrelevant information about the region. what does the kurds have to do with anything? they are SUNNI MUSLIMS who happens to be kurds and not ethnically arab or turkish. and they want their own state, what the fuck does Islam have to do with any of that? and i know they have 'Yazidis" too.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
More like Reza Aslan condescends to the public...as a Muslim he is biased towards his own religion. He conveiniently disregards the fact that the larger the Muslim population in a country, the more likely that country is to experience Islamic terrorism. Just ask France, Spain, or the United Kingdom. Even countries that are 100% Muslim cannot escape the tyranny because Sharia *is* tyranny. Aslan also glossed over Dearborne, MI's Sharia controversy rather conveiniently, i thought.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 Reza is a stealth jihadi projecting as a professional victim. He falsely claims it isn't a mosque knowing the blueprint contains prayer space - making it a mosque; uses the distance factor w/o acknowledging aircraft wreckage/disintegrated bodies were found there. Bigotry: Islam isn't an ethnicity. Identifying as Muslim in a free country is an arbitrary choice. Opposing Islam is no more racist/bigoted/xenophobic than it is to oppose a medieval church burning witches on stakes.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 Also, Aslan made an embarrasing error: Fairfield, TX does indeed exist (I looked it up as he suggested), he was probably referring to Frankford, TX (the real city in question) which was annexed into Dallas some time ago therefore *it* no longer exists.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144
Well spotted!
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 well, farfield TX or franford. his point was made. and it's republican should stop making up shit to get elected. simple as that. and i also want to respond to the ""more muslims you have the more the problems".the muslim community in europe is way different than the one in the U.S. Most of the people who are causing problems over there are convicted in their own countries.which is not the case for Muslims in this country
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Frankford...it is his responsibility as a self-proclaimed (public) scholar to research the subject properly before public speaking about the events, especially when the delivery is undeniably condescending (and as i stated embarrassingly false). "more Muslims you have more problems"? No, do not misquote me. "the higher the Muslim population, the more likely that country is to experience terrorism". Are you apologizing for the attrocities commited in the name of Allah in Europe? hmm
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 also, I am not republican so your bias towards that party does not affect me, thankfully. Put more thought into your statements in the future please. I certainly hope you are not implying that Aslan's 'point' is that "republicans should stop making shit up to get elected. simple as that".
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 as a matter of fact it is. because the point was neither any of the mentioned cities were under "Sharia law" so why did Angel made that up? because she is a dumb moron who want to get elected. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 The politician in question (Sharon Angle) is obviously an idiot, although I hope you are not implying that the GOP is the only party who "makes shit up"? This doesn't seem to be a fair conversation since you clearly have no clue and English (hopefully) is not your first language.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 I'm talking about Muslims. i don't care if democrats do or don't. and what is it that i "clearly have no clue about?" Muslims? or the republican bullshit on Islam and Muslims?
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 yes shithead, Al-kindi is not exactly an American name! btw, eventhough it is not my first language, i'm standing up to idiots like you.which speak to your level of intelligence really.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 i had no idea that was your name or even what your screen name meant. i don't judge people based on their screen name. Your horrible grammar gave you away. Your desire to use grade school language in conversation speaks volumes regarding *your* maturity and intelligence level. As an Islamic apologist you'll have a lot to answer for so I'll leave the rest to you. No point arguing with an individual who defends violent religious dogma and can't communicate beyond a first grade level.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 i might grammatical mistakes. usually i forget to add an "s" to a plural or so. but demonizing your challenger to avoid a debate is an old school trick used by many to avoid exposing their ignorance on the subject. so let me rephrase what you said to me, YOU are the one who have no clue whatsoever about the issue. open a book and stop being being the idiot fuck you are :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 i might" have" so you don't freak out and assume that i can't communicate beyond first grade! i just forgot to add the " have". PLEASE do not think i can't communicate beyond first level English. and i'm not "Islamic apologist". all im doing is proving that you are all are just stupid :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 why are we stupid? we refuse to submit to Sharia...is that why? I have read enough to know that Islam is a supreme example of oppression of rights Western civilization and the US constitution deems mandatory...women still can't vote in Saudi Arabia. Is this the kind of liberation I'm missing out on? I'll carry on as an infidel thank you very much and you'll be sad to know there isn't a thing you can say or do to wipe away the atrocities the Islamic faith commits daily.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 haha you told me to put more thought in my comments, yet you accuse me of wanting you to submit to Sharia Law? you know how many muslim countries are using Sharia ( of course as a legislative branch) ? they are not more than 10. no one except extremists want to do such thing. and even when it comes to extremist, it is really not that black or white.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 also, *one* country practicing Sharia is one too many. Never mind ten....
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Aslan's put out false information meaning his point was fraudulent and neutered.
"Most of the people who are causing problems over there are convicted in their own countries": ROFL If that was so, they'd never have gotten into Europe in the first place b/c of mandatory police checks!
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 yes they can dumbshit. Abo hamza al-masri, is wanted in egypt and he is in London. Sa'ad al-faqih is wanted in Saudi Arabia and he is london as well. it is the british government who gave this kind political refugee statuses.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Al Masri migrated to England in 1979 at age 21 as a STUDENT and naturalized as a British subject in 1981 after marrying a local. His UK citizenship was revoked in 2003. His record was clean at time of entry.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@BeyondRelativity it's called LIBERAL DEMOCRACY dumbass and i still can't figure out what the hell are you trying to say.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
if Mr Asslans entire dissertation was based on, islamophobia,
a concocted phenom, an invented term, a lie that is intended to deceive, a totally false concept.
Then one has to ask, what value is his er..."qualified" opinion?
It laughably insinuates that any reservations about Islam must ipso facto be "phobic." phobia - irrational fear, concern or dislike.
Islam very often manifests precisely this feature, (fear, concern, dislike)
thus, suspicion of it is by no means irrational
secula4eva 8 months ago
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Alkindi90 8 months ago
@secula4eva just look at the arguments in this page and see how dumb a lot of people in this country are. Islam is a blasphemy, satanic, not "Abrahamic" etc. you may not care about any of that, but a lot of dummies here think these are reasons to hate! Ann Coulter, a conservative fucktard said that the U.S should invade every "Islamic" country and convert them to Christianity! i would love it if so called liberals like you stand up to this nonsense!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
What's nonsensical about it? It's about mistrust, not "hate". I'd really like to know the migration statistics for non-muslims to the middle east based on lifestyle factors alone.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 the more you talk the more you prove how unbelievably stupid you are. mistrust anyone based on his religious belief is regared as bigotry. the Nazi weren't just saying we hate jews. no they also "mistrusted" them. mistrust eventually lead to hate you stupid shit. my god, do you listen to yourself? haha you didn't what say so you brought up Mohammed and his concubines. pathetic!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 and here you prove that you are indeed a racist SOB. people immigrate all the time. mainly economical and political reasons. when we talk about Islam as a religion we are not talking about governments and states.and BTW, a lot of westerns come and work in DUBAI, Qatar, Kuwait. and i'm not going to mention the American military bases over there. i'd like to know based on lifestyle! drop dead
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Re-read my comment.
Note I specifically referred to "lifestyle factors alone", not economic / political factors b/c I know people move there for work. Islam is a theocracy which IS a form of government. Muslims operate military "cells" out of the USA, don't they?
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Cont ...
About bigotry / racism: Islam is NOT an ethnicity and Muslims are not members of 'the Islamic race'. Muslims come from all races and ethnicities. Identifying as Muslim in any free country is a personal, arbitrary choice. Opposing Islam is no more racist, bigoted and xenophobic than it would be racist, bigoted and xenophobic to oppose Communism, violent Fascism or the medieval State church burning unbelievers (or witches) on stakes - which Islam still does.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 NO as a matter if fact it is. because you are not opposing a practice. you are opposing people. so when you say i "mistrust" Muslims, it is the definition of bigotry and phobia. no one would bother himself talking to a dumbfuck like you if you said, i don't approve stoning . because stoning is a practice. but you are saying I MISTRUST MUSLIMS which make you a bigot.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Wrong. It is the ideology of Islam that's mistrusted. Muslims are self-inflicted victims of Islam's practices that they refuse to amend. This has nothing to do with bigotry or phobia. All Muslims are phobic and bigoted towards non-Muslims b/c they refuse to change Islamic practices. Domination is hard wired throughout Islamic texts.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 hahaha you are amusing. domination is hard wired throughout Christian text. and i have provided many example of that before. for the million time, it is all about interpretation. all religions share a similar violent history. and revolutions in MUSLIMS MAJORITY countries have been waging for months. and Islamic teachings of social justice motivated many of these protesters.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
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@Alkindi90
"domination is hard wired throughout Christian text": Really? I'm still waiting for references from the 10 Commandments.
"revolutions in MUSLIMS MAJORITY countries have been waging for months": proves Islam doesn't work as a viable system of government anywhere in any format. It will only ever be replaced by another hybridised regime of the same old remixed repressive practices.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 and look, when you call Muslims victims of islam? what do you want exactly?so i stop calling you a bigot :)
do you want them to convert to Christianity? if you do, you are not different than Al-Qaeda. if you hate them for being Muslims even though they are struggling in a country to be accepted, than you are a bigoted SOB. so what the fuck do you want? out of this meaningless conversation?
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Muslims always will be self-imposed victims and I don't care if you want to call me a bigot b/c I know you're lying and trying to intimidate (as approved in Islam). There's no sustainable reason for non-muslims to 'accept' muslims when they aren't allowed to accept others as equals by order of a criminally insane 7th century goatherd.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 But all religions do not allow their followers to accept others. all religions. but again, people develop and start look for alternatives. and religion cannot a form of government in any way. so they abandon the teachings that suggests violent behavior toward others because it is not going to work out. some did not and that is their problem. but clearly you do not even want Muslims to change for the better :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 "religion cannot form a gov't in any way". Did you forget Saudi Arabia? 'Islamic absolute monarchy' is pretty hard to miss.....
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 and do you know who are the people that hate Saudi Arabia the most and call it unIslamic? Al-Qaeda and the Muslim brotherhood!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 have you ever heard any of Bin laden speeches to know his position on the Kingdom? of course not. because you are so stupid to even do that!!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 I have disproven your assertion that religion and gov't are not synonymous in the middle-east and you divert the argument to terrorist extremists instead. Unfortunatley,the anti-American views held by terrorist organizations are not all that different from Islamic governments themselves. You ignore that oppression of women (among other groups) is driven intrinsically by Islam. Finally, King Abdullah is Muslim and his power as a monarch is absolute.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 Syria is a secular government and its relation with the united states is unstable. Saudi Arabia claim to hold Islamic teachings as a constitution ( which is the subject of condemnation all across the islamic majorty countries) yet their relationship with U.S is more than perfect. Jordan is a monarchy but it is a constitutional one, and its king is a muslim from the Hashim clan ( Mohammed's clan) and they diplomatic relations with Israel. so what the fuck is your point?
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Yes, oil is a powerful influence and King Abdullah knows how to weild that economic power accordingly. Trust me, I don't enjoy the relationship Saudi Arabia has with the west at all, never mind just America. The point is to prove that Religion and gov't is synonymous in the middle-east, unavoidable and abhorrent as that is, and you stated "religion cannot form a gov't in any way". False, I'm afraid. Although Islam is not the only faith guilty of this crime.....
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 okay, read the history of the Al-Saud dynasty and see what is their deal with Islam. because even by the standards of al-qaeda, they are considered wrong. and when i said religion cannot form a government i didn't mean it is not possible, i meant that it won't work and it will eventually vanish.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 but you didn't respond, Syria is a secualr government, yet its secularsim did not prevent it form being anti America, did it? Saddam Hussain's Iraq was secular as well. Indonesia, the biggest muslim country have a normal relation with the U.S, don't they?
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Only because I was referring to Saudi Arabia and not Syria, Jordan etc. Anyway, yes those countries are secular and not ruled by an Islamic king, however, they are still overwhelmingly Muslim. American politicians have a nasty habit of overlooking atrocities commited by a nation, even exacting violence on their own people, when money or political clout is involved. Most violence commited in the name of Allah is exacted upon other Muslims...
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 aha! so you are saying that massacres are taking place in Syria are committed in the name of Allah? is that what you are saying? because i really need to know that before responding HAHAHA
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 I never directly said Syria was doing that...*sigh*. Quit putting words in my mouth that doesn't make you 'right', taking very vague statements i made and then attempting to purposefully misinterpret what was said.
Between March 2010 and May 2010, 2,000 people were killed in the name of Islam...mostly Muslim people. "You are not much different from your Msulim bretheren", not identical...please grow up.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
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@TheHuntress144 this is what you said, "American politicians have a nasty habit of overlooking atrocities commited by a nation, even exacting violence on their own people, when money or political clout is involved. Most violence commited in the name of Allah is exacted upon other Muslims". and which "Islamic" countries are committing violence against their people now? Libya and Syria. BOTH SECULAR. and if you want me to take you seriously, provide examples,
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 You are not an American citizen? You have no desire to be an American citizen? Good. There are enough overgrown children in this country without adding another to the population. you come to America to learn? More power to you...learn to converse and conduct yourself with some class and respect. I have no desire to continue this conversation. It's late and I'm tired. Have fun fighting with random strangers on the internet....
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 haha OWNED :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 good you realize that population in this country has enough overgrown children. but the catastrophe is when overgrown children whose English is not their mother tongue OWN adults who are capable of speaking English :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 "this country" and you don't live in America? Your last post is barely legible and "OWNED" doesn't mean you are right. would you like to account for the 2,000 Muslims killed in the name of Allah in the space of three months?
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 WOW! so you are really stupid? i'm in America you stupid fucktard! and yes, as i said if you want me to take you seriously, provide examples. but don't you think that you are contradicting the assumption that Muslims are terrorists and want to impose Sharia law when they are victims of terrorism themselves? and yes i owned your ass when i provided examples of countries that does not consider Sharia as a mean of legislation. while "islamic" monarchies have relations with Israel :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 you said "islamic" countries are anti-america because they are overwhelmingly muslims. yet Syria, Iraq, Libya, Cuba, Valenzuela they have an unstable relation with "this country". while Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Indonesia, Malaysia, and many more have normal relationships with the U.S and some with Israel. you said Saudi Arabia is an "Islamic Monarchy" because its king is a Muslim. but you didn't know that it is actually not even by the standards of extremists. exposed your ignorant
Alkindi90 8 months ago
con..
and that allow me to label you as OWNED. cry and open a fucking book, you might learn something. Although it is highly doubted
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 and than you ask to stop calling you stupid!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 Saudi arabia is Not islamic absolute monarchy. because there is no such thing as Islamic monarchy or Islamic democracy. there are democracies and monarchies
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 You should have more respect for the people you start fights with on the internet. Your childish assertions do not make you correct simply because you refuse to admit you are wrong.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 hahaha fair enough, i will when you stop assuming that i want to impose my religious beliefs on you because i came from an islamic background.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Fine. You (specifically) do not want me to convert to Islam, but if you live in the US unfortunatley you are not typical of the Muslim population, over 99% of which exists outside the borders of the United States.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
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Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 I learned you are not much different from your Muslim bretheren either so don't worry, we're square.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 but you are contradicting yourself. because you said that "my Muslims brethren" want to convert you but im not :))
Alkindi90 8 months ago
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@TheHuntress144 im not an american citizen and im not planing to be. i'm a student who choose to learn in the U.S and go back to his country with all the great stuff i learned. and all i learned is that you are not different at all :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Cont ...
Btw, have you noticed the insults YOU are hurling around freely at others here? Why not give some consideration to the level of offence you're deliberately causing others.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 because there no reason for being polite with idiots like you. YOU deliberately repeating the same points over and over again. when you are cornered you bring up an irrelevant topic to the table. another one is gathering information about the ethnic conflicts in the middle east and trying so hard to accuse Islam as the reason behind them. and third idiot, left it everything Reza is talking about and emphasizing that it is actually frankford not farfield. and that's make Reza an idio
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Mate, it's obvious you don't have what it takes to "corner" me by a long shot.
You can't even explain what Allah would want with a fifth of Muhammad's war booty or why non-muslims should regard themselves as superior beings when they can't even operate a system of government without inducing mass internal revolt. Guess what? Islam IS the reason behind it b/c that doesn't happen in western democracies.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 Cont ...
Reza isn't an idiot but he is a typical garden variety stealth jihadi. What's more, he knows it and so do you.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 i'll stop responding to you because your level of stupidity is beyond the bearing of a human being
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Suits me ... and my 'idiotic' Masters degree :-)
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@secula4eva so as homophobia! it is a an invented term. he is not saying criticizing Islam or the radical jihadist is considered "islamphobic", it is about networks like fox news who makes up lais to make the public afraid of Muslims. if any republican candidate want to gain support in this country, he gotta go out there and say how much he despise Muslims! than the debate change from simply exchanging ideas and beliefs into hate and prejudice toward every Muslim, or even look like one
Alkindi90 8 months ago
IF?... Anti muslim sentiment is on the rise it has nothing to do with Islamophobia ?? Invented, deliberately, by a MB front organization, to stifle debate
maybe muslim intolerance of gay/lesbians,other sexual minorities, other religious/ethnic minorities, of apostates, freedom of conscience/speech, an aggressive political/association agenda, proven aspect of non-integration, this is all to do with PAYING EDUCATED ATTN TO FACT,not a false islamaphobia concept
secula4eva 8 months ago
@BeyondRelativity And actually the united states did a good job by not supporting the leftist regimes. because they were socilaist and marxists. you don't even know your country stance on such ideologies do you?
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@BeyondRelativity well, it's true i didn't say the U.S is evil it politics. there is no black or white. and i agree we shouldn't blame the U.S for everything and that is something Muslims in Arab speaking countries are working on.Islam is like all religions. the problem of people in the U.S is the over simplification of issues. there are social,political, and historical grievances that paved the way to radical group to influence a lot of aspect of Muslims lives. hope you got my point
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@BeyondRelativity I didn't really understand what you were trying to say. these groups that see terrorism as a mean to reach objective. were financed by the CIA in the 1980s until they got out of control. and you know why they supported them? to establish an alternative to the leftest Arab movement. they thought it would be better for America to create regimes like saudi Arabia all over the region. well, it turned out you were dead wrong.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@BeyondRelativity I'm a middle eastern. who said they or (I) liked Saddam Hussain? i came from a sunni background to. Saddam hussain was secular ba'athist like Bashar al-asad of Syria ( who is a Shite BTW). you mentioned saddam hussain for some reason to try to convince me that islam is evil. no sir YOU should open a book :)
Alkindi90 8 months ago
to understand the Sharia hysteria, no matter how you try to refute their accusations they will continue bitching that Muslims have "hidden agenda". these people do not go away with reason and logic. the media will have to stop make it mainstream and they will go back to their holes. they are not interested in a dialogue . they hate Muslims for not believing in JESUS! just as simple as that.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90
Pls understand this. Not all faith systems believe in Jesus. In general, people don't like or trust followers of Islam b/c of what's prescribed in the Qur'an about compulsory sanctioned violence, misogyny and world domination. It isn't about "not believing in Jesus".
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 well, thank you for that. i didn't know that not all "faith systems" believe in Jesus. your problem dickead is that you stopped talking about the concept of violence in Islam and jumped on to discuss the Islamic mythology. in a pathetic attempt to refute the violence verses of the bible that i provided. you Contradict yourself by accusing Islam of the same thing you are practicing. don't say most people mistrust. Muslims are in every corner of the earth. speak about yourself.
Alkindi90 8 months ago
@Alkindi90 You misunderstand. My purpose was to show that the ONLY code of behaviour that is central to Judeo-Christianity is the 10 Commandments (as given to Moses as God's Law) to prove to you that the Islamic dogma can't possibly legitimately claim to be of Abrahamic origin contrary to an obvious Islamic lie. Well, I recently read a study that showed 63% of people in one western country I won't name were anti-Islam. Mind you, I didn't participate in that study.
Msunbird02 8 months ago
@Msunbird02 Again, that is what you want to believe. and you keep smearing the entire religion. you may say the 10 commandments are the code behavior of "judeo -christianty". that is certainly not the case for the orthodox Jews, the KKK, white supremacy groups, Nazis, the crusades, etc. the point you don't seem to be getting is that religion is a matter of two things. Faith and interpretation. again, not interested in discussing mythology. but here is what the Jewish scholar ibn maimon said con
Alkindi90 8 months ago