Man I miss 3si. I was a member there since 2000, I would login every so often to keep up with the 3s platform. Now some corporate dickheads took over and ruined the site, not to mention deleted my account I've had for over a decade. :(
@DowntownGoat you realize you are talking about a car that didn't change for 10 years vs. a brand new z06. Not to mention the fact that they are 3.0L motors going 9s not 6.0L motors...or whatever they are at now.
@Darksurfr you realize that those lovely little hair dryers do the same job that the 2 "extra" cylinders on the v8 do right? That's the whole point of turbo charging smaller displacement engines. Your argument is flawed. The really awesome thing here is that the 3000 is that fast considering the weight difference it gives up to the Z. The HP difference is only one part of the story.
@hondaisflatoutbest I believe this video is the proof that there is a replacement for displacement. He makes more power and is faster with less than half the displacement and two turbos. That's pretty much the definition...he replaced displacement with turbos...
@JustinSizzler did you not read the whole comment? appearently not. When your modding a vehicle so extensivly it attains a different class. It took that much extra parts to beat that Z06. Put the same amount of work and parts into that Z06 and you'll have a car that is much faster than that 3000. Lingenfelter proved that even mild boost to the Z06 makes for huge performance improvements. And the bottom line is, you can only cram so much air through a smaller motor
@hondaisflatoutbest Thanks for your reply (I like your little user name, I too think the irony of it is hilarious) I did actually read the whole comment, it was only two sentences. While we're on the subject of reading comprehension, try it. I think your confusion here lies in your lack of comprehension of the word "replacement". In this situation, replacement means you can have displacement OR forced induction.
@hondaisflatoutbest Putting two turbos on a 7 liter engine would be displacement AND forced induction, thus not replacing anything, but rather adding to it. If you want to compare displacement and forced induction, you would compare a large displacement engine to a smaller one with forced induction, which is exactly what this video is about. Your comment and my reply weren't about putting equal mods on two different cars, it was displacement vs. forced induction.
@JustinSizzler I'm sorry I misunderstood what you are trying to compare. I fully appreticate the VR4 and it's capabilities as a car. Forced induction does incredible things to motors when applied correctly. I was initially just referring to comparing NA motors to NA motors. Not always applicable, I understand because some cars are built from factory for forced induction. One question though. Did 3000gt VR4's come with different drivetrain options?
No I know that I'll be fine in the snow and stuff. Thats not what I mean. It has 500 awhp when you have a car thats modded that much and pushing that much boost problems happen no matter what here and there. I can turn the boost down, but still. Plus the car is almost 17 years old. I don't know if I should take it or not
its this video that makes me want to take the trade this kid wants my volvo s60r for his 95 vr4 with the 99 conversion and about 500awhp. only problem is I'm worried about daily driveability. plus my friend has an 07 z06 that needs put in its place
corvettes are slow for the price, and the 3kgt is an awesome platform for straight line speed, there are manyyyyy that people have gotten under 1O seconds in the quarter, its a very fair race seeing as whoever bought that corvette paid more for it. and saying the corvette driver sucked and the corvette should have won is just ignorant without having a list of mods for the 3OOOgt it could be a stock 14sec car or it could be a 9sec car.
@Dutil35 the Z06 also has 250+ more hp stock and weighs no more than the 3000gt, no excuses there. It should easily be able to keep up with a 3000gt even if it is modded out the ass, but it can't, simply because either its the driver, or they suck. in most cases its some rich asshole who can't drive.
@DropDeadDustin01 So no matter what mods are done to the VR4, the Z06 should 'easily be able to keep up'? And if not, it's driver error? How can you make such an broad statement and be serious? I would be embarassed if I said something that dumb.
Eric M. also made 609 AWHP and 651 AWTQ on his Stock long block, but with adjustable cam gears, 91 Stealth RT TT at 25psi of boost on PUMP GAS, with these turbos. Eric's car broke 400ft/lb of TQ at 3100rpm, and brakes 600ft/lb of TQ at 3900rpm! Those are Numbers a 500+ CID BIG block V8 would love to have, and this is from a 183 cid V6!
I cant deny the badassery of VR4s, however I can tell you most 500+ CI Big blocks are pushing 700horses or more depending on their set-up. (from a drag racing perspective)
V6 TT, V8s, Supercharged V8s, they're all awesome!
Well 600 to the wheels has been done on a VR4 with bolt on turbos, cam gears, exhaust mods. With heads/cams can see 700 to the wheels as well and thats with bolt on turbos. TD05 can see wayy more.
Just stating the big block part is somewhat incorrect, its not difficult to get big blocks high in power. A 500+ CI big block only putting 600horsepower out is not a happy big block :)
@broskiskunk My favorite is the 1014 WHP car that comes to Ocean City with for our gatherings and hangs out in LI. Full street car. No weight reduction. That is 3800 LBS that runs 9s and gets 25 MPG. Top speed...who knows. Oh did i forget reliable. 6G blocks are amazing.
@firefoxx04 if your looking to spend less money get a base c5 and swap the heads and cam, then you have a car with much more hp then the zo6 and still alot cheaper. also the 3000gt awd weights 4200 lbs while the z06 weights 3200 lbs. so overall the corvette has more potential.
stock 3s cars with AWD typically weight around 3800 with a full tank of gas, no driver. still pretty fat. Only reason i would say the vette has more potential is because of the market it sits in. 3s cars are becoming a thing of the past it seems like and its sad.
but like most cars, it comes down to who is willing to go the extra mile. 1000awhp is a big deal for the 6g72 world but 1000whp is not much in the boosted chevy v8 world.
@Milkshake562 are you kidding me? for 2 grand you can do a cam and full valve train upgrade along with longtube headers and a tune. they are not expensive to mod unless your buying brand name catbacks that are $1,500 (if your an idiot) and cold air intakes....
@outreachpaintball i know. i had a Vr4. for 2grand i upgraded to dr650's and easily top 600+ hp (on a mustang) at 25psi on a stock block and heads. 600 on a exhaust set up, and then 1300 for a AEM v2 ECU, and then 600 for a tune. so for 4500 dollars 600+ can be achieved
@ppsg27 what are we not allowed to buy America's performance car??? i've had 4 vettes. last one i sold was an '08 Z06. only reason i sold it is because the bore on the block is maxed out & i would be unable to make more power if i turbo it w/out sleeving it 1st...
@07Z06ss durrrr no because we can make a 3.0 I-6 demolish your v8's hogs. My 92 VR4's interior is twice that of anew vette...all american cars blow man..get with the fkin program
@mustang4sho If American cars blow so much, how come they piss and shit on the windshields of all jap cars on the famous race track in Germany? America shits on japan with track times all day long, here's a perfect example 2010 ACR Viper = 7:12 on the nurburgring, nothing from Japan touches it kid
@mustang4sho VR4 is not a supercar chief. You have a 50/50 chance your differential is shit. The transmissions are shitty. They are unreliable once you start modding them. Sorry for being realistic.
@RiceKiller191 differential was replaced by dealer on recall. unreliable once you mod them? Are you a retard? look up info on a 6g72 block and come back with some good info. You dont know shit.
@mustang4sho Which is why it is not a super car as you claimed. You will not be able to make reliable power unless you drop a shit load of coin into them.
@RiceKiller191 Shit load of coin? Exhaust, injectors, 255 fuel pump, boost contorller and a tune you're at 400+awdhp.. VR4 vs Supra stock for stock the VR4 rapes it. Guranteed pal..AWD aka 5krpm launches with no wheel spin at all.
@mustang4sho not 400+ maybe 350. its really hard to put out good numbers through a AWD setup due to drivetrain loss. PLus to get 400 you would have to upgrade the turbos or all you get is a nive dyno queen. The stock turbos cant really hold boost that well and start to fade towards redline. VR4>supra yes andy day for that price and performance. From a dig the vr4 is king with awd drive launch, but people i know usually launch them at 4k rpms and slip the clutch.
@RiceKiller191 ur right its not a supercar to the immediate Bugatti and Ferrari. but in the 90s Japanese supercar. + the vr4 is not even all that great even though mines is pretty beast. i think its not too bad to run high 12s for 3 thousand dollars :D
@jamesvzfighter Well yeah their not horrible cars. For an average car they're a little quick. I wouldn't call it a Supercar by any means though lol. $3k and 12's not too shabby. My buddy bought a TT 300ZX for $4,500 and was capable of running 12's. He blew is motor though lol
@RiceKiller191 Agreed they aren't supercars. On the contrary, The transmissions are not shit. Its the T-case on the 5 speeds that cant hold 400 to the wheels reliably but that can easily be fixed. The 6 speeds have an issue with the input and output shaft bearings over 400 WHP cracking the bellhousing but this is a simple job to brace the bellhousing. With a set of forged rods and pistons, and the proper drivetrain bracing and the engine is good to make well over 800 WHP.
@07Z06ss Oh sorry you said 300gt the first time.... No... no I doubt that it could. Try not using words that you have no idea what they mean from now on. Tuner=/=ricer. Kthx.
@JooseyJayRemade Face it, old american muscle cars with very little invested would smoke this RICEBOX anyway, bye bye ricer, you're a waste of my time. kthx. :)
@07Z06ss Good job ass munch. A 3000GT destroyed Vettes STOCK when they first came out. It wasn't till the mid 90s when Vettes actually started to make horsepower again. Even then with only $6k you can run low 11s high 10s in a VR4 or TT.
@07Z06ss Go look up facts. My cousin has an OLD F body and he couldnt keep up with me when I was all stock and his car had 13000 miles on it and mine had 150K on it. Dust and lights is all he saw. Same with your stupid Vette comments. The 3KGT was faster then a ferrari 368 when it came out and the vette of the same year.
My reasonably priced dream car is a white vr4 with black tail lights and black rims. Other than the colour of the rims that is pretty much my fucking dream car you have there.
You people don't know what rice is. Just because it's from Japan, doesn't mean it's rice. Rice can be Japanese, America, German, Italian if you can find 'em, french if you can find 'em, Korean, etc etc. I've seen some riced ass mustangs, corvettes, cavaliers, neons, hondas, 240sxs, eclipses, 3kgts, etc etc. Learn what it means and shut up. Sit down somewhere.
@TriggaC74 Just give up you are wasting your breathe. They don't even know what the word comprehend is to comprehend. You can't fix stupid, so just let it be.
@keith91z28. OBVIOUSLY have had no track time the 3000 VR4 is not heavier than a Z06 at 3700 lbs they are lighter. You can never have driven a road course if you think AWD doesnt make a difference . I have driven a CMC 3rd gen Race car for 11 yrs 148 mph @ willow Springs, Lg. Seca others AWD is incredible on a Base run I Blew away a Z 06. My CMC Car did 148 MPH @ Willow Big.Im changing classes into Enduro racing .. want to buy a Great 3rd Gen Race car contact racer565@ymail.com. CHEAP .
Here in the UK we have corners in our roads and fuel costs twice as much so we hardly have any vetts at all over here, as they suck at both.
pity though as the vette engine does sound like porn.
i have a 96 Mitsubishi GTO MR TT because of the above, i will be honest and say if i lived in the states with your lower fuel costs and straight roads, i could be very tempted to change sides.
It wouldn't be hard to out maneuver a vette. 4wd, 4 wheel steering, rear anti sway bar all stock. Then you reduce the weight drastically add front and rear strut bars, coilovers drop it, good tires, lightweight rims and boom vette is toast.
@coupe3kgt With equal drivers, you can do the same amount of work to a vette. Awd isnt as a big advantage in road racing as people think. Awd cars tend to understeer and rwd oversteers but with equal drivers a rwd car can enter and exit a turn harder. Common knowledge, thats why you dont see awd formula 1 series. the vr4 outweighs the z06 by around 700 if not more pounds. Even if you shed weight, the z06 will remain lighter. Stock for stock the vr4's power pales in comparison to an ls7 z06.
@coupe3kgt Look at their skid pad ratings, a vette from the 80's skidpad rating surpasses a 2nd gen vr4. I love vr4 as they are the only import I could ever want but reality is reality. A very well built vr4 would have to run a bone stock ls7 z06 to stand a chance, with equal drivers.
You don't know vr4s then. on the 3si forum this is what I found and its not even the best a vr4 has done.
That said, I push 1.22g sustained though the whole Carousel up until I start to accelerate in the last 1/3 of the turn. I also measured that I generate 1.44g peak though Turn 5, and 1.67g peak through the Kink.
@coupe3kgt Are these your vr4 or a vr4 off a forum because I can pull z06 info off of a forum for modified zo6's. Those rating obviously arent for a stock vehicle seeing as how .90 lateral g is the true rating for a stock vr4. But I digress. A vr4 with a better driver can take a z06 but equal driver for equal driver for equal mod for equal mod, the ZO6 every time. The zo6 went 7.26 at nurburgring which is the original argument. What vr4 has come close to that? And that was a factory zo6.
@coupe3kgt But like our usernames suggest, you favor the vr4 and I favor the zo6. I hope we can at least agree that both are brilliant machines. I do hold the vr4 on a high pedestal compared to all other "imports". I still want one. In the end, under whatever conditions that may be present, one can beat the other whether vr4 wins or zo6 wins. We just have different views on it.
@coupe3kgt Stock 2012 ZR1 has a 7:19 on the Nurburgring, no rice even comes remotely close to that......and the rice in this vid had "too many mods to list" all to barely pull on a STOCK C5 Z06 hahahahaha
@coupe3kgt you're dumb, it doesn't even say what mods all it says is "too many mods to list" all those mods tp barely pull on a STOCK z06 hahaha what a piece of junk
well thats his fault then for taking the hard route. As Matt from Dynamic Racing said there's two ways to make a car fast throw so much money at it that theres no choice but for the car to be fast or use the right combination of parts. I choose option 2.
@coupe3kgt LOL @ the better looks, any old V8 with less than 10 grand put into can run 10s and walk this riced out pos, hey I wonder why the 3000ricegt isn't in production anymore? it's junk that's why
@coupe3kgt oh and one more thing, look at the 7:19 the 2012 ZR1 corvette posts for stock production handling times on the nuburgring track in germany, not even a heavily modified 3000ricedoutgt could be that vette in the corners
wrong supercar had a much higher slalom speed and lateral g then the zr1. his rims were 19x13 I believe and had it dropped with coilovers and swaybars among other things.
@ADHDadditiv well first off, I know what I'm talking about second facts prove what I say, third the 3000ricegt isn't in production anymore because it's junk
@legendary2JZGTE The 2008 Viper ACR ran a 7:22, the 2010 ACR ran a 7:12 on the Nurburgring a few weeks ago, "u retard" go google it and see on the OFFICIAL Nurburgring lap times for stock production cars.
"do some research before you talk" <--- you should take your own advice "u retard"...
@07Z06ss Facts prove what that your an asshole, yeah thats fine, 3000gt is awesome car and from a rolling start, yes it will be hard for it to pull away, fact that hes doing it proves its got balls, second off the line that z06 wouldn't even come close, and third, you cant compair a ZR1 to a ricer because ZR1 considered supercar, ricers arent.
@07Z06ss Does this make a M3 rice? same displacement and number of cylinders? How about comparing a Lamborghini V12 to your V8 vette? The percentage difference of cylinders between a 6 and 8 and a 8 and 12 is lower for the ladder. Does that make it sensible for an Italian car owner to call your vette gutter trash? Rice is based on style. If it out performs your car and reliably then give the guy credit where credit is due. Save your rice issue for the correct argument. Dumb Fuck
@whothaplaya lol not really. you can get a 16G kit from 3sx for $2200 that can put u in the 500+HP range with ease on pump...considering u already have BPU.
@mehrshadvr4: thanks for the comment. I have been watching your videos for a while and you might know more than me ..but that was just a comment about how fast the vr4 left that z06 not that it has to be 16G... I know 13gs can take a vette!!..Thanks for the info anyways..tc
someone buy my 3kgt vr4......118k miles $6500 firm.....stillen downpipe. hallman prorx boost controller, d&n intake pipes, ls6 maf, maftranslator, walbro 255lph fuel pump, dsm stock injectors(450ccs)....click on my profile theres a vid of it losing to a turbo civic lol
LOOK AT THAT GORGEOUS ASS!!! I LOVE MY VR4 YES YES YES!! haha
Jnavar92 2 weeks ago
Props for the driver mod in the vette. You don't see vette drivers 'rowin 'em anymore
jimmytheas 3 weeks ago
Put a supercharger on that Vette, and the 3000GT would be toast.
Dreaklock 3 weeks ago
@Dreaklock I love woulda shoulda coulda comments.
twizted3kgt 1 week ago
Man I miss 3si. I was a member there since 2000, I would login every so often to keep up with the 3s platform. Now some corporate dickheads took over and ruined the site, not to mention deleted my account I've had for over a decade. :(
drink2death 1 month ago
while that statement is true, how do you know if this car is a dr750 car?
keo92stealth 1 month ago
The Corvette was skating all over the road at the end while the VR4 kept it's paws firmly planted.
iceguy2003 1 month ago 3
lol @ the guy that said there are many 9 second VR4s. I would love to see thos run again after the z06 goes full bolt on.
DowntownGoat 1 month ago
@DowntownGoat you realize you are talking about a car that didn't change for 10 years vs. a brand new z06. Not to mention the fact that they are 3.0L motors going 9s not 6.0L motors...or whatever they are at now.
Darksurfr 1 week ago
@Darksurfr you realize that those lovely little hair dryers do the same job that the 2 "extra" cylinders on the v8 do right? That's the whole point of turbo charging smaller displacement engines. Your argument is flawed. The really awesome thing here is that the 3000 is that fast considering the weight difference it gives up to the Z. The HP difference is only one part of the story.
DowntownGoat 6 days ago
There is, and never will be, a Replacement for displacement. Throw twin Turbos on the Z06 and than race again.....
hondaisflatoutbest 1 month ago
@hondaisflatoutbest I believe this video is the proof that there is a replacement for displacement. He makes more power and is faster with less than half the displacement and two turbos. That's pretty much the definition...he replaced displacement with turbos...
JustinSizzler 1 month ago
@JustinSizzler did you not read the whole comment? appearently not. When your modding a vehicle so extensivly it attains a different class. It took that much extra parts to beat that Z06. Put the same amount of work and parts into that Z06 and you'll have a car that is much faster than that 3000. Lingenfelter proved that even mild boost to the Z06 makes for huge performance improvements. And the bottom line is, you can only cram so much air through a smaller motor
hondaisflatoutbest 1 month ago
@hondaisflatoutbest Thanks for your reply (I like your little user name, I too think the irony of it is hilarious) I did actually read the whole comment, it was only two sentences. While we're on the subject of reading comprehension, try it. I think your confusion here lies in your lack of comprehension of the word "replacement". In this situation, replacement means you can have displacement OR forced induction.
JustinSizzler 1 month ago
@hondaisflatoutbest Putting two turbos on a 7 liter engine would be displacement AND forced induction, thus not replacing anything, but rather adding to it. If you want to compare displacement and forced induction, you would compare a large displacement engine to a smaller one with forced induction, which is exactly what this video is about. Your comment and my reply weren't about putting equal mods on two different cars, it was displacement vs. forced induction.
JustinSizzler 1 month ago
@JustinSizzler I'm sorry I misunderstood what you are trying to compare. I fully appreticate the VR4 and it's capabilities as a car. Forced induction does incredible things to motors when applied correctly. I was initially just referring to comparing NA motors to NA motors. Not always applicable, I understand because some cars are built from factory for forced induction. One question though. Did 3000gt VR4's come with different drivetrain options?
hondaisflatoutbest 1 month ago
@hondaisflatoutbest No, they only come AWD. A base model 3000gt or sl model comes FWD.
sepzero28 1 month ago
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@sepzero28 they actually did but only in japan, it was a model call 3000gt MR which had the vr-4 twin turbo engine with rear wheel drive.
vietboy1988 3 weeks ago
@hondaisflatoutbest they actually did but only in japan, it was a model call 3000gt MR which had the vr-4 twin turbo engine with rear wheel drive.
vietboy1988 3 weeks ago
@hondaisflatoutbest The cost though is still less on the VR4 then the Z06. Dollar for dollar is the argument not how much money went into the car.
Darksurfr 1 week ago
That's what I'm talking about. Can't wait to put my my Vr4 on the streets again
a1duzit 1 month ago
dude...learn your car an where the power falls off....here is a hint....it is NOT redline dumbass!!!
ROBBY639 2 months ago
@ROBBY639 Learn where power comes on in the next gear and what shifting rpm will put you there would be the more important thing.
twizted3kgt 1 week ago
No I know that I'll be fine in the snow and stuff. Thats not what I mean. It has 500 awhp when you have a car thats modded that much and pushing that much boost problems happen no matter what here and there. I can turn the boost down, but still. Plus the car is almost 17 years old. I don't know if I should take it or not
seeroy1986 2 months ago
its this video that makes me want to take the trade this kid wants my volvo s60r for his 95 vr4 with the 99 conversion and about 500awhp. only problem is I'm worried about daily driveability. plus my friend has an 07 z06 that needs put in its place
seeroy1986 2 months ago
@seeroy1986 drivebaility its an AWD AWS its perfect as for a DD just take easy
rizegraymon1 2 months ago
@rizegraymon1 agreed. just do the maintaining and have the tune checked by those in the 3/S community and you should be fine.
Darksurfr 1 week ago
corvettes are slow for the price, and the 3kgt is an awesome platform for straight line speed, there are manyyyyy that people have gotten under 1O seconds in the quarter, its a very fair race seeing as whoever bought that corvette paid more for it. and saying the corvette driver sucked and the corvette should have won is just ignorant without having a list of mods for the 3OOOgt it could be a stock 14sec car or it could be a 9sec car.
subrosameda1 2 months ago
@subrosameda1
vr4 stock is actually a mid to high 13 second car 14s with bad driver one guy was running wastegate boost and still ran 14s
broskiskunk 2 months ago
@Dutil35 the Z06 also has 250+ more hp stock and weighs no more than the 3000gt, no excuses there. It should easily be able to keep up with a 3000gt even if it is modded out the ass, but it can't, simply because either its the driver, or they suck. in most cases its some rich asshole who can't drive.
DropDeadDustin01 2 months ago
@DropDeadDustin01
no one said the vr4 was stock and awd will beat rwd off the line.
broskiskunk 2 months ago
@DropDeadDustin01 So no matter what mods are done to the VR4, the Z06 should 'easily be able to keep up'? And if not, it's driver error? How can you make such an broad statement and be serious? I would be embarassed if I said something that dumb.
twizted3kgt 1 week ago
@jonoftheson if you had $5000 and a Z06 all you could get is a mild cam some cheap headers and some exhaust. thats all my buddy got for his with 5k.
DropDeadDustin01 2 months ago
not a fair race, the Mitsubishi is turbo, the Vette is N/A and stock.
Dutil35 2 months ago
@Dutil35 not a fair race, the vette has a v8 and the 3kgt a v6. excuses are like assholes
tpersing88 2 months ago
@tpersing88
The GT also has a twin turbo setup so it's throwing more TQ down than the Vette.
Slipknotdraken 2 months ago
@Dutil35 also has close to 200 extra hp stock
dhillskier75 2 months ago
@Dutil35 Yeah...and the Vette is several hundred pounds lighter and has more than twice the engine displacement.
diambo4life 1 month ago
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By the title, i can say you own the "stock z06"
hampsterMSR 2 months ago
Zo6 is sick vr4 is a heavy shitty platform. 5 k into zo6 and easy victory
jonofthesun 3 months ago
@jonofthesun
5k into vr4 600 to the wheels.
Eric M. also made 609 AWHP and 651 AWTQ on his Stock long block, but with adjustable cam gears, 91 Stealth RT TT at 25psi of boost on PUMP GAS, with these turbos. Eric's car broke 400ft/lb of TQ at 3100rpm, and brakes 600ft/lb of TQ at 3900rpm! Those are Numbers a 500+ CID BIG block V8 would love to have, and this is from a 183 cid V6!
broskiskunk 3 months ago 11
@broskiskunk
Actually, with only $5500 you can build a 350ci V8 with 530hp to the dyno, block and all.
Hot Rod mag has a build for it and everything.
btw, I am not a v8 only guy. I just wanted to state some truth to the v8 debate. ( I personally love 3000gts myself)
ktownmazda6 2 months ago
@broskiskunk hell yeah
Diablo3662 2 months ago
@broskiskunk
I cant deny the badassery of VR4s, however I can tell you most 500+ CI Big blocks are pushing 700horses or more depending on their set-up. (from a drag racing perspective)
V6 TT, V8s, Supercharged V8s, they're all awesome!
Cory1X 1 month ago 2
@Cory1X
Well 600 to the wheels has been done on a VR4 with bolt on turbos, cam gears, exhaust mods. With heads/cams can see 700 to the wheels as well and thats with bolt on turbos. TD05 can see wayy more.
broskiskunk 1 month ago
@broskiskunk
Oh I'm sure!
Just stating the big block part is somewhat incorrect, its not difficult to get big blocks high in power. A 500+ CI big block only putting 600horsepower out is not a happy big block :)
Cory1X 1 month ago
@Cory1
I think that quote from the site is talking about stock 500 ci big blocks not modded.
broskiskunk 1 month ago
@broskiskunk
Poor unupgraded big blocks, makes sad :(
Anywho thanks for the clarification!
Cory1X 1 month ago
@broskiskunk My favorite is the 1014 WHP car that comes to Ocean City with for our gatherings and hangs out in LI. Full street car. No weight reduction. That is 3800 LBS that runs 9s and gets 25 MPG. Top speed...who knows. Oh did i forget reliable. 6G blocks are amazing.
Darksurfr 1 week ago
@jonofthesun you do realize 5k into a z06 is barely 2 mods? LOL
Milkshake562 2 months ago 4
@Milkshake562 but the z06 cost a bunch to begin with. awd 3000 can be had for much less, put less into it and it comes out on top
both are sick cars
firefoxx04 1 month ago
@firefoxx04 if your looking to spend less money get a base c5 and swap the heads and cam, then you have a car with much more hp then the zo6 and still alot cheaper. also the 3000gt awd weights 4200 lbs while the z06 weights 3200 lbs. so overall the corvette has more potential.
Fuku2hoe 1 week ago
@Fuku2hoe i dont remember what i said o well
stock 3s cars with AWD typically weight around 3800 with a full tank of gas, no driver. still pretty fat. Only reason i would say the vette has more potential is because of the market it sits in. 3s cars are becoming a thing of the past it seems like and its sad.
but like most cars, it comes down to who is willing to go the extra mile. 1000awhp is a big deal for the 6g72 world but 1000whp is not much in the boosted chevy v8 world.
firefoxx04 1 week ago
@Milkshake562 should be able to get a head and cam pakage with that and a tune
jponcez06jp 1 month ago
@Milkshake562 are you kidding me? for 2 grand you can do a cam and full valve train upgrade along with longtube headers and a tune. they are not expensive to mod unless your buying brand name catbacks that are $1,500 (if your an idiot) and cold air intakes....
Fuku2hoe 1 week ago
@Milkshake562 you do realise this means the 3000GT dollar for dollar will always be ahead right?
outreachpaintball 8 hours ago
@outreachpaintball i know. i had a Vr4. for 2grand i upgraded to dr650's and easily top 600+ hp (on a mustang) at 25psi on a stock block and heads. 600 on a exhaust set up, and then 1300 for a AEM v2 ECU, and then 600 for a tune. so for 4500 dollars 600+ can be achieved
Milkshake562 3 hours ago
@jonofthesun an awd twin turbo v6 with a 6 speed is a shitty platform? you're a twat
tpersing88 2 months ago
Damm not badd. good race.
RobertMoua 3 months ago
the title says : TOO MANY MODS.......For just 4 body length win?? just a head/cam on that Vette: BEAST!!
nickyjam770 3 months ago
@nickyjam770 I could probably shorten that list for you.
Fuel upgrades, air upgrades. No engine work needed.
SuperFast3OOOGT 3 months ago
@SuperFast3OOOGT Let me try shorten yours.....Nitrous... :p greetings
nickyjam770 3 months ago
@nickyjam770 When too many mods to list I was thinking it would be more like my friends stealth. 760 awhp. He ruins my z06 and it is cammed.
joeympower 3 months ago
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@joeympower i guess you cant read
nickyjam770 3 months ago
Black guy with a Corvette?? Wut up wid dat?
ppsg27 3 months ago
@ppsg27 what are we not allowed to buy America's performance car??? i've had 4 vettes. last one i sold was an '08 Z06. only reason i sold it is because the bore on the block is maxed out & i would be unable to make more power if i turbo it w/out sleeving it 1st...
housedjnyc 3 months ago
@ppsg27 hes not black hes latino or asian looking
aguichris 3 months ago
@ppsg27 Because your race clearly indicates what you're allowed to own right? Fucking faggot.
Eyeolus 3 months ago
@Marshmallowrex mad? I was thinking honest.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
@Marshmallowrex I have a 92 3000Gt VR4 you dirty dick hole and 91 Stang with 400whp...aka 2 things you jerk off to.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
mmm you vette guys can think all you want about your $50,000 dollar cars but us VR4 owners, we run the streets.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
@mustang4sho you run the streets because you can race a modified car against a stock car....what a joke
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss durrrr no because we can make a 3.0 I-6 demolish your v8's hogs. My 92 VR4's interior is twice that of anew vette...all american cars blow man..get with the fkin program
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07Z06ss 4 months ago
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@mustang4sho If American cars blow so much, how come they piss and shit on the windshields of all jap cars on the famous race track in Germany? America shits on japan with track times all day long, here's a perfect example 2010 ACR Viper = 7:12 on the nurburgring, nothing from Japan touches it kid
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@mustang4sho You're an idiot.
RiceKiller191 4 months ago
@RiceKiller191 and your a dirty used up dick hole..vr4 is a super car.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
@mustang4sho VR4 is not a supercar chief. You have a 50/50 chance your differential is shit. The transmissions are shitty. They are unreliable once you start modding them. Sorry for being realistic.
RiceKiller191 4 months ago
@RiceKiller191 differential was replaced by dealer on recall. unreliable once you mod them? Are you a retard? look up info on a 6g72 block and come back with some good info. You dont know shit.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
@mustang4sho I have had 3 friends with VR4's. They all fell apart. There's a reason they aren't as renowned as a Supra, Z32, or GTR.
RiceKiller191 4 months ago
@RiceKiller191 You have to maintain them really really good. and there's certain things you can and cant do with them.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
@mustang4sho Which is why it is not a super car as you claimed. You will not be able to make reliable power unless you drop a shit load of coin into them.
RiceKiller191 4 months ago
@RiceKiller191 Shit load of coin? Exhaust, injectors, 255 fuel pump, boost contorller and a tune you're at 400+awdhp.. VR4 vs Supra stock for stock the VR4 rapes it. Guranteed pal..AWD aka 5krpm launches with no wheel spin at all.
mustang4sho 4 months ago
@mustang4sho not 400+ maybe 350. its really hard to put out good numbers through a AWD setup due to drivetrain loss. PLus to get 400 you would have to upgrade the turbos or all you get is a nive dyno queen. The stock turbos cant really hold boost that well and start to fade towards redline. VR4>supra yes andy day for that price and performance. From a dig the vr4 is king with awd drive launch, but people i know usually launch them at 4k rpms and slip the clutch.
TheBopop 3 months ago
@RiceKiller191 ur right its not a supercar to the immediate Bugatti and Ferrari. but in the 90s Japanese supercar. + the vr4 is not even all that great even though mines is pretty beast. i think its not too bad to run high 12s for 3 thousand dollars :D
jamesvzfighter 4 months ago
@jamesvzfighter Well yeah their not horrible cars. For an average car they're a little quick. I wouldn't call it a Supercar by any means though lol. $3k and 12's not too shabby. My buddy bought a TT 300ZX for $4,500 and was capable of running 12's. He blew is motor though lol
RiceKiller191 4 months ago
@RiceKiller191 Agreed they aren't supercars. On the contrary, The transmissions are not shit. Its the T-case on the 5 speeds that cant hold 400 to the wheels reliably but that can easily be fixed. The 6 speeds have an issue with the input and output shaft bearings over 400 WHP cracking the bellhousing but this is a simple job to brace the bellhousing. With a set of forged rods and pistons, and the proper drivetrain bracing and the engine is good to make well over 800 WHP.
Darksurfr 1 week ago
@07Z06ss Also, his modified 3000gt probably cost less than the z06 he put in the dirt....
JooseyJayRemade 4 months ago
@JooseyJayRemade And? you can do the same with a late model f body, abd for less and beat a poopy 300gt
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss I'm sure you could beat a 300gt like that.
JooseyJayRemade 4 months ago
@JooseyJayRemade yeah old f bodys smoke 3000gt shitboxes with less money involved, ricer..
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss Oh sorry you said 300gt the first time.... No... no I doubt that it could. Try not using words that you have no idea what they mean from now on. Tuner=/=ricer. Kthx.
JooseyJayRemade 4 months ago
@JooseyJayRemade Face it, old american muscle cars with very little invested would smoke this RICEBOX anyway, bye bye ricer, you're a waste of my time. kthx. :)
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss Good job ass munch. A 3000GT destroyed Vettes STOCK when they first came out. It wasn't till the mid 90s when Vettes actually started to make horsepower again. Even then with only $6k you can run low 11s high 10s in a VR4 or TT.
Darksurfr 4 months ago
@Darksurfr nope, you're just a ricer kid
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss Go look up facts. My cousin has an OLD F body and he couldnt keep up with me when I was all stock and his car had 13000 miles on it and mine had 150K on it. Dust and lights is all he saw. Same with your stupid Vette comments. The 3KGT was faster then a ferrari 368 when it came out and the vette of the same year.
Darksurfr 1 week ago
@Darksurfr Aww is someone upset that domestics crush little imports? lol
07Z06ss 5 days ago
My reasonably priced dream car is a white vr4 with black tail lights and black rims. Other than the colour of the rims that is pretty much my fucking dream car you have there.
Pyrok1netic 5 months ago
And i left out Camaros because they come from the factory riced out lol.
TriggaC74 5 months ago
You people don't know what rice is. Just because it's from Japan, doesn't mean it's rice. Rice can be Japanese, America, German, Italian if you can find 'em, french if you can find 'em, Korean, etc etc. I've seen some riced ass mustangs, corvettes, cavaliers, neons, hondas, 240sxs, eclipses, 3kgts, etc etc. Learn what it means and shut up. Sit down somewhere.
TriggaC74 5 months ago
@TriggaC74 Just give up you are wasting your breathe. They don't even know what the word comprehend is to comprehend. You can't fix stupid, so just let it be.
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ADHDadditiv 5 months ago
wow that vr4 is a beaute
YOUNGYEE831 5 months ago
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YOUNGYEE831 5 months ago
@keith91z28. OBVIOUSLY have had no track time the 3000 VR4 is not heavier than a Z06 at 3700 lbs they are lighter. You can never have driven a road course if you think AWD doesnt make a difference . I have driven a CMC 3rd gen Race car for 11 yrs 148 mph @ willow Springs, Lg. Seca others AWD is incredible on a Base run I Blew away a Z 06. My CMC Car did 148 MPH @ Willow Big.Im changing classes into Enduro racing .. want to buy a Great 3rd Gen Race car contact racer565@ymail.com. CHEAP .
1Racer565 5 months ago
Am I the only one that noticed that he looks like Derrick Rose?
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
i have a sl, atleast i dont have a base haha, wish i had a vr4 though
randomradicalstuff 6 months ago
Here in the UK we have corners in our roads and fuel costs twice as much so we hardly have any vetts at all over here, as they suck at both.
pity though as the vette engine does sound like porn.
i have a 96 Mitsubishi GTO MR TT because of the above, i will be honest and say if i lived in the states with your lower fuel costs and straight roads, i could be very tempted to change sides.
MrGrawolf 6 months ago
@MrGrawolf haha they suck at corners? yet it runs for the nurburgring a 7:26 and 7:19 for zr1.
Danny7930 6 months ago
@Danny7930 Even the vr4 in this vid would not be able to run those numbers at Nurburgring, lol. Vettes are built for speed and handling.
keith91z28 6 months ago
@keith91z28 With coilovers and weight reduction along with other mods it would be able to beat a Vette on the turns.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt Lol with coilovers.........weight reduction........along with other mods......
keith91z28 5 months ago
@keith91z28
It wouldn't be hard to out maneuver a vette. 4wd, 4 wheel steering, rear anti sway bar all stock. Then you reduce the weight drastically add front and rear strut bars, coilovers drop it, good tires, lightweight rims and boom vette is toast.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt With equal drivers, you can do the same amount of work to a vette. Awd isnt as a big advantage in road racing as people think. Awd cars tend to understeer and rwd oversteers but with equal drivers a rwd car can enter and exit a turn harder. Common knowledge, thats why you dont see awd formula 1 series. the vr4 outweighs the z06 by around 700 if not more pounds. Even if you shed weight, the z06 will remain lighter. Stock for stock the vr4's power pales in comparison to an ls7 z06.
keith91z28 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt Look at their skid pad ratings, a vette from the 80's skidpad rating surpasses a 2nd gen vr4. I love vr4 as they are the only import I could ever want but reality is reality. A very well built vr4 would have to run a bone stock ls7 z06 to stand a chance, with equal drivers.
keith91z28 5 months ago
@keith91z28
You don't know vr4s then. on the 3si forum this is what I found and its not even the best a vr4 has done.
That said, I push 1.22g sustained though the whole Carousel up until I start to accelerate in the last 1/3 of the turn. I also measured that I generate 1.44g peak though Turn 5, and 1.67g peak through the Kink.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt Are these your vr4 or a vr4 off a forum because I can pull z06 info off of a forum for modified zo6's. Those rating obviously arent for a stock vehicle seeing as how .90 lateral g is the true rating for a stock vr4. But I digress. A vr4 with a better driver can take a z06 but equal driver for equal driver for equal mod for equal mod, the ZO6 every time. The zo6 went 7.26 at nurburgring which is the original argument. What vr4 has come close to that? And that was a factory zo6.
keith91z28 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt But like our usernames suggest, you favor the vr4 and I favor the zo6. I hope we can at least agree that both are brilliant machines. I do hold the vr4 on a high pedestal compared to all other "imports". I still want one. In the end, under whatever conditions that may be present, one can beat the other whether vr4 wins or zo6 wins. We just have different views on it.
keith91z28 5 months ago
@keith91z28
If you wanna do stock for stock. May 1997 of Motortrend rates the vr4 skidpad at 0.95 vs. the Vettes 0.93
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt Stock 2012 ZR1 has a 7:19 on the Nurburgring, no rice even comes remotely close to that......and the rice in this vid had "too many mods to list" all to barely pull on a STOCK C5 Z06 hahahahaha
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss
who cares. drag racing is where its at. z06 would be easy for a mildly modded vr4.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@07Z06ss
too many mods to list yeah right. keeping it simple is what its about. DR650 billets
550 injectors
walbro pump and hot wire
afc/maf translator
rps clutch
down pipe no cats
manual boost control
with those mods a vr4 weighing 3800+ lbs. went 10.9 @ 125 in the 1/4 with a terrible 1.7 60foot time. thats under $4000 in mods.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt you're dumb, it doesn't even say what mods all it says is "too many mods to list" all those mods tp barely pull on a STOCK z06 hahaha what a piece of junk
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss
well thats his fault then for taking the hard route. As Matt from Dynamic Racing said there's two ways to make a car fast throw so much money at it that theres no choice but for the car to be fast or use the right combination of parts. I choose option 2.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt and? you can buy an old f body and put less than 10 grand into it and run 10s
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss
5000 dollar vr4 and 4000 in mods is 9k and thats 10s right there and you have all wheel steering all wheel drive and better looks.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt LOL @ the better looks, any old V8 with less than 10 grand put into can run 10s and walk this riced out pos, hey I wonder why the 3000ricegt isn't in production anymore? it's junk that's why
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt oh and one more thing, look at the 7:19 the 2012 ZR1 corvette posts for stock production handling times on the nuburgring track in germany, not even a heavily modified 3000ricedoutgt could be that vette in the corners
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss
wrong supercar had a much higher slalom speed and lateral g then the zr1. his rims were 19x13 I believe and had it dropped with coilovers and swaybars among other things.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@coupe3kgt wow you're an idiot, 2012 zr1 has a 7:19 on the nurburgring in stock form, no piece of shit from japan modded or stock had beat it yet
07Z06ss 5 months ago
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@07Z06ss actually I believe the 2012 gtr has beaten that. PLUS no one would want to own a zr1 because they fall apart as you drive it.
ADHDadditiv 5 months ago
@07Z06ss Oh it hasnt my bad
ADHDadditiv 5 months ago
@07Z06ss but actually the lexus lfa has
ADHDadditiv 5 months ago
@07Z06ss Dont try to talk shit when you have no idea what your talkin about
ADHDadditiv 5 months ago
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07Z06ss 5 months ago
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@ADHDadditiv well first off, I know what I'm talking about second facts prove what I say, third the 3000ricegt isn't in production anymore because it's junk
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss u r wrong, the lexus LFA nurburgring edition ran 7:14 at the nurburgring. Do some research before u talk.
legendary2JZGTE 4 months ago
@legendary2JZGTE the 2010 Viper ACR runs a 7:12 on the Nurburgring, again american cars are shitting on your jap crap, get pooped on..
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss viper ACR ran 7:22 not 7:12 u retard.
legendary2JZGTE 4 months ago
@legendary2JZGTE The 2008 Viper ACR ran a 7:22, the 2010 ACR ran a 7:12 on the Nurburgring a few weeks ago, "u retard" go google it and see on the OFFICIAL Nurburgring lap times for stock production cars.
"do some research before you talk" <--- you should take your own advice "u retard"...
07Z06ss 4 months ago
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@coupe3kgt wow you're an idiot, 2012 zr1 has a 7:19 on the nurburgring in stock form, no piece of shit from japan modded or stock has beat it yet
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss
actually they are 305x35R-18 Toyo Proxes R888 on CCW 18x12 rims.
coupe3kgt 5 months ago
@07Z06ss Facts prove what that your an asshole, yeah thats fine, 3000gt is awesome car and from a rolling start, yes it will be hard for it to pull away, fact that hes doing it proves its got balls, second off the line that z06 wouldn't even come close, and third, you cant compair a ZR1 to a ricer because ZR1 considered supercar, ricers arent.
ADHDadditiv 5 months ago
@ADHDadditiv awwww so you think I'm an asshole? ok, well the 300ricedoutgt is just that, rice
07Z06ss 5 months ago
@07Z06ss Does this make a M3 rice? same displacement and number of cylinders? How about comparing a Lamborghini V12 to your V8 vette? The percentage difference of cylinders between a 6 and 8 and a 8 and 12 is lower for the ladder. Does that make it sensible for an Italian car owner to call your vette gutter trash? Rice is based on style. If it out performs your car and reliably then give the guy credit where credit is due. Save your rice issue for the correct argument. Dumb Fuck
Darksurfr 1 week ago
DAMN i love the sound of that Vette!............ awesome race.
drgoodspd 6 months ago
Pretty fast VR4, but you could get the z06 for less money than what was spent on the vr4.
whothaplaya 6 months ago
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mcastro089 6 months ago
@whothaplaya lol not really. you can get a 16G kit from 3sx for $2200 that can put u in the 500+HP range with ease on pump...considering u already have BPU.
mcastro089 6 months ago
lol spic
krazzyyo2 6 months ago
Looks like a c5 not a c6... still nice though
ITRIEDEL 7 months ago
nice vid, my 2 favorite cars
3kgtss 8 months ago
VR4's rock....so much potential. I love mine!
SuperFast3OOOGT 9 months ago 7
Go Android
storyb23 9 months ago
Someone did a good job on the VR-4, don't see that too often.
Aztech355 10 months ago
Two beautiful cars, nice.
YamaMXS 10 months ago
Oh man.. that VR4 is beast mode...
alwaysaswish 10 months ago 3
dude nice vr4, you have a car to be proud of. not to many fixed upd vr-4s in my area like yours. my respects, coming from a 01 z06 owner
phillipsgt94 10 months ago
@mehrshadvr4: thanks for the comment. I have been watching your videos for a while and you might know more than me ..but that was just a comment about how fast the vr4 left that z06 not that it has to be 16G... I know 13gs can take a vette!!..Thanks for the info anyways..tc
ussee1 11 months ago
That was some solid shifting in the vette! Sounds GREAT too!
TurboNFRStwoK 1 year ago
someone buy my 3kgt vr4......118k miles $6500 firm.....stillen downpipe. hallman prorx boost controller, d&n intake pipes, ls6 maf, maftranslator, walbro 255lph fuel pump, dsm stock injectors(450ccs)....click on my profile theres a vid of it losing to a turbo civic lol
timyestim 1 year ago
yea thats truit lol
sscamaroms3 1 year ago
haha is that trut? lol crazy bastard
98slept 1 year ago
16gs to beat a zo6,,i beat some with mine,,zo6 can be beat with 15g turbos
NiSmOReVoLuTiOn15 1 year ago
lol looks like a real camera.... DROID
vr4 owns everrryyyyttthhhiinnngg
lilmarv08 1 year ago 17
@lilmarv08 nott true haha. i have a video beating a 1991 vr4
mastaajbomb 11 months ago
@mastaajbomb lol im jus messin
lilmarv08 11 months ago
@lilmarv08 but it was a stock 1991 with nothing done to it for 20 years vs my 44 year old car with plenty done
mastaajbomb 11 months ago