57:30 I'm no mason by any means, but y'all need to keep in mind that God demands repentance. That is a critical part of the Good News. You are not saved because you're good enough. No, the wages of sin is death, and all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, but you better believe God has a standard for you to meet, which is only attainable by faith in the propitiation that was put forth for mankind. Turn from sin to God. Do what God teaches. The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
...Lil Bush and Darth Cheney(aka Dr.Evil) Oil/Defense Contractors for war and profit campaign allowed 911 happen..." the plane is 10 miles away sir, do the orders still stand"- Cheney" of corse they do, have you heard anything to the contarary!" oh, and the "Al-Quida" who was responsible...yeah, they funded that too..takes money to make money though..sick society we live in, truly hypocritical and people will believe any lie they are told if its on fox news, sad little sheepohhhbbbaaammma! haha
The Rothchilds have funded both sides of every war for centuries lining thier pockets with the blood money from thier sacrifices, so dont tell me there isnt proof of sacrifices..the Bush Dynasty are the new Rothchilds, aintcha herd( sheep pun.heheh) Prescott Bush's bank funded the nazis,the smarter older George brought the New World Order into full affect(was also in Dallas when Kennedy as shot, tied into Lee Harvey and then became head of the CIA..then when his half monkey inbred kid took over.
were talking about a group of people who meet secretely, wear klan like robes, phony Christians who with Pagan/Satanic/Zionist agendas..praise members like Albert Pike (who created the Ku Klux Klan) and black members (more phonyness hypocracy) such as the Richeous Rev. Jessie Jackson who sit in rooms with Mr.Pikes pictures in the Masonic Lodges and ohh yeah, icing on the cake..theres a huge monument of Albert Pike in D.C....i bet they just forget to stop there on the million man march.
Uhhhh.. So now, supposedly, we're supposed to believe what someone suspects Jefferson was thinking when he wrote the constitution? That's hearsay and irrelevant. What they're asking here is for me to dismiss one theory for another.
The Founding Fathers were great men... they broke away from the degenerate and broken system of old world tyranny and slavery and blazed open a path in the new world for freedom and justice for all. Today, old world intrigue has enveloped the American nation and it is been brought down physically and spiritually.
This video is propaganda, it is also anti American... they even twist and pervert bible prophecy and apply it to America when bible prophecy as it is written in the bible was written for the nation of Israel/Jerusalem in the first century.
GW attended the episcopal church in Alexandria, but he also revered the great architect at the lodge of his youth. building still standing by the way.
I disagree with Jefferson on one point, the Journal of American Medicine (JAMA) had debated what JC did in those miracles. perhaps coma in one case, and healing with medicine possible as JC was in egypt as a young man. could be.
dear friends, read again: "it is Liberty and Justice for ALL".....that means ALL.......ironically G.W. thought this was the Promised Land, ENJOY...we have it all here....in this life, in this land. Paine, Madison and Jefferson helped you even in this 21st century... and yes GW and Lee did pray so go ahead, but not all have to.....
James Madison, John Adams, Samuel Adams, John Hancock, Robert Treat Paine, Edward Rutledge, Richard Henry Lee, etc. etc. were all Christians. Thomas Paine was not a founding father, he was just influential in his political agitations.
@StAugustine79 growing up in one of the original 13. I knew the Paine family. glad to hear of Robert Treat Paine. but Thomas Paine was an important rabble rouser, recent research shows he was at the French Revolution....he got around. but no he was NOT a christians. there is more to running a country than church. be well. and god bless. and there were two Paine families, in the 20 century married each other and were my neighbors. one a church goer the other smoked cigars.
everybody who opposes religion is a satanist or a member of a group orgy
....and every member of the freemasons is also thereby a satanist
great logic....*facepalm
The story behind the cadeavers Franklin worked on isnt this dramatic at all. There was no connection to human sacrifices or anything these morons are trying to imply.
@USMarineRifleman0311 sounds like a fun lodge party to me, I am making the cupcakes right now......lol.....hope Ben Franklin likes icing.......I love that Thomas Paine. if you visit washington please visit the National Portrait Gallery. or look at him here. he needed a bad raincoat, but he could WRITE. some thought recently he may have contributed to jefferson's we the people in later paragraphs.
WE MUST SUPPORT MEN OF MORAL BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES LIKE THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO BELIEVED THE BIBLE WAS THE MORAL FOUNDATION OF OUR NATION WE MUST TEACH PREACH AND HOLD FORTH THE WORD OF LIFE WHICH IS GODS WORD THE BIBLE.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Really? You have the uninterrupted right to post what you think on this youtube commentary because of our founders. Jefferson himself denounced slavery even though he owned slaves. It was a residual immoral institution that most of our founders wanted phased out. Our founders threw off the shackles of the European monarchy and aristocracy and were successful in the political enlightenment in creating the most vibrant Republic in the history of humanity.
@StAugustine79 amen, ah women, yes they threw off europe, and we have freedom of religion, or from it. the europeans had a state church as did virginia in the beginning and maryland. but the country itself was NOT founded as a christian nation. wonderful you can pick any religion you like isn't it. and Ben was a party guy.....Go Ben, go Ben......diplomat and ladies man.
@USMarineRifleman0311 have you read the Federalist Papers or seem the The Adams on PBS about abigail and john adams. Abigail said "remember the ladies" for the time this country was more egalitarian and remains so. keep reading. it's not perfect but it is the BEST we've got here on the planet so far.
As for Christianity, that is the "Old World" religion that is been used to destroy America today. It has become a religion of Revolution, all you hear from the prophets of doom on the pulpits in the churches is Anti American propaganda. There loyalty is to the Old World and not to the New World of America.
Funny how they try and use a few words and colloquialisms to try and show how these people, most of which who had much disdain towards the religious and little to no supernatural belief, were believers. A few of them wrote some of the harshest words I've ever read about religion, priests, believers, and supernatural belief.
PS: Even the most hardened, confident atheist today might say "Ohhh, thank god" once in a while. It's a cultural thing, not a belief thing.
The founding fathers were occultists. the occult is logic and reason. to the religious man, that is an evil act. Yes they were against Christianity because it it evil - especially the catholic church. It's not some "secret that this is what they were into. The symbolism is everywhere, and it was known AT THE TIME!!!
@thefranciswatts Logic and reason is not opposed to belief in God. All of the scientists and philosophers that ushered in the Scientific Revolution were christians.
Thomas Paine hated Christianity, he wrote a whole booklet on his disdain for it. Thomas Jefforson was so disgusted with the supernatural events ascribed to Jesus in the bible that he tore it up a wrote his own bible!!!. Benjamin Franklin was a Freemason and Grand Master of the French Lodge of Nine Muses! and George Washington was also a Freemason. You are lying to yourself and the people of America when you try and change history and say America was founded on Christianity.
No that is more lies, The American founding Fathers did not base nothing on Christianity. The American founding fathers based America on classical Greek and Roman philosopy. They were members of the Enlightenment and they had a dislike for the version of Christianity as you know it today. They believed Jesus was a good man, but only a man never the less. They believed that the story of Jesus was nothing more than the same old mythological story told by all thee ancient sun worshipping nations
and thank goodness they weren't Christians either! Can you imagine how much more religious intolerance would be plaguing the U.S.A today if they were?
Another supposed authoritative look at human reasoning that dilutes the Word of God and deludes people with half truths and outright lies. Facts are skewed in this work to satisfy the authors personal distaste for the Constitution and it's founding fathers. At no time in history has a government been bound by such a restrictive document that guaranteed the Rights of the People, for all time, was not in the hands of government but rather "We the People" would maintain control of government.
@jrjny2scssyt that was then. this is now. we no longer are wielding the power in this nation. things have changed and you cant see it? Read 'Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship' by paul and philip collins
@DMCx2MT We ni longer wield the power simply because America went to sleep and allowed Corporate giants to take over government and diminish the value of the Constitution. I have spent my entire life in service under oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic only toi find after being disabled doing my job that my life's efforts have been wasted by a generation that has no appreciation for our freedom. I understand we have lost, but WHY???
The "King George the III" was no longer a king since he was subject to the international bankers! Usury was the reason for the Revolutionary War.
But "Christians" love the mighty dollar. It feeds their "worldly" needs. It doesn't matter if it makes them complicit to war, death, abortion, usury, by using the mighty dollar.
In the end, when the Word of God is spread all over the world, they'll just flip over to Romans 13.
Btw, does this video explain that Freemason use the King James Bible?
This the guy at the end of this video is going against the very worlds of Jesus Christ and the Gospel. Jesus or the apostles did not force people to believe in what they were saying, Jesus did not ram his teachings down peoples throats that didn't want to listen. Jesus didn't build big organizations and churches and governments. Jesus came to do away with the priesthoods and temples!. His teachings were simple... "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and "worship God in Spirit and in Truth".
America is the only nation in history that has made the Government the subject of the people rather than the people been subject to the government. The consititution is the chains that bound the government from becoming oppressive. The founding Fathers realized that human beings are born with certain Creator endowed rights which no priesthood, monarchy or Government can take away. They believed that Government was formed solely for the purpose of protecting those creator endowed rights.
America is not a Christian Nation, the founding fathers were members of the Enlightenment and founded a secular government where people could come and worship the God of there choice. The Christian Church was killing and burning people at the stake who didn't agree with there dogma. America is the greatest nation to ever exist, it's the only nation that gave the common man freedom, They cut ties with the despotic priesthoods and monarchies of the old world and opened the way to a new world
@GB26007 The freedom of belief and religion is not a secular viewpoint but a Christian one. If it wasn't for our founding father basing their beliefs, this government, and the laws around Christianity, we wouldn't have the freedom we do today. And it's interesting how Christianity is being swept away so gradually, so is our security and freedom. And you need to clarify when you say the Christian Church, the Church of england was not Christian at all.
@cubed07 we have wonderful freedom of religion or from it, this was put into place as virginia had the state church C of E in 1600's as you note, in it's founding and Maryland had RC.....now we have freedom of or from.
@GB26007 The church persecuted the protestants or Christians the most out of any religious groups. A huge majority of the burnings, deaths, and imprisonment were leveled against true Christians who rejected the palpacy and their twisted interpretation of the BIble and were wanting freedom to have their own bible's in their native tongues so worship God freely. This is why our founders fled to America, so that they could practice Christianity openly in the public without fear of reprisal
@cubed07 yes, but read Pagans and Christians by Robin Fox at most libraries in history section. odd groups in inquisition, most are noted for the first time in work noted.
The bible says nothing about gay marriage, or abortion. Founders scream they're anti-religous and we should believe them. Now *CONTEMPORARY PEOPLE* are *ON FILM* confessing that they *ARE* Christian... and we're supposed to NOT believe them??? Upon what basis? Where is there any rationality or consistency in this?
Bizarre thing: The point of this video seems to be to suggest that the "Founding Fathers" were non-Christian or anti-Christian... Then it's suggested that Washington was secretly Catholic(?) Um, what exactly do you imagine Catholicism is? It's a form of Christianity that's been around for a thousand + years before the advent of the Protestant school of Christianity. It's as if those putting this video together have no idea that Catholicism=Christianity.
Ironically this is actually a great video. They imagine they're denigrating Payne, Jefferson, etc, while they're actually exposing the truth about their non-religious integrity, and making them seem great, principled people against the onslaught of superstition, the innumerable horrors brought forth and protected by religion in general, and Christianity in particular. Who are you going to be more influenced by and hold in higher esteem, Thomas Jefferson, or some shameless religious manipulator?
a declaration of independence is not evil, a bill of rights is not evil , a theocracy ruling with an iron rod , is like the days of rome , so called authorities commiting atrocities in the name of god,,,,, be careful here, they want a war, this is by design,,,,,,
What is the big revelation here? Is it just for you christians and what you were told? This country is free. We were never set up as a christian country. We are secular just like you want it for muslims. They write the word "creator" and you assume it is the creator you worship. The founding fathers were extremely intelligent and set up the first truly unrepressed country. Jefferson recognized the collection of scripts that made the christian bible.
@nejjjen YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! But you're also wrong! Getting rid of tyranny was the primary objective of our independence from England's iron fist and taxation, but the document produced to achieve this end was the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights. Time and a generation who has been allowed to enjoy it's freedom without supporting it's values have allowed corporate takeover and dilution of the Constitution's true intent by crooked politicians.
As a Muslim, we believe in the virgin birth and believe Isa(as) Jesus was a Messenger of God. He did not die on the cross nor was he even crucified but a man of his liking. It states this in the bible itself
@ArchaicReality you are terribly deceived Jesus Christ is God incarnate who suffered and died on the cross for our sin. Jesus said "Before Abraham was. I AM!"
@ArchaicReality WHERE???? You don't need to lie about my Holy Bible unless you're looking to have your Koran trashed in like manner. Don't state as fact anything about a written work you're not equipped to prove. It isn't in the Bible anywhere that Jesus had a substitute pay for our sins because He did it all by Himself, as only the divine Son of God could have.
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If this be true, but cannot be proven, why bring it up? Senseless at best. We know that these people where the elite of their day and indeed are not without their flaws. In the end a great and just nation was formed and became a very bright light in an otherwise dark and bleak World. God works in mysterious ways.
@paulpaid I'm not saying that it is any longer, but for a time it was for the most part. Once slavery was ended, it was the greatest and most just of nations. We have now moved into empire and tyranny and no longer are what we once were. No one alive today has seen that great nation with their own eyes.
The makers of the film, obviously biased by religion, are certainly not with liberty, the founders and the constitution. The knowledge of the whole universe isn't contained within one book. Grow up, and get some courage to rise above your narrow minded worldview.
It's funny to me that, if the founding fathers actually were Christians, that they'd incite a revolution. No where in the Bible does it advocate rebelling against established authority, but serving God in whatever set of circumstances you happen to find yourself.
Why is there so much madness between both arrant atheists and millennial Christians in this list of comments? You're both addicts looking for a fix. This is meant to be historical--for regular curious people.
@LeonSpinx1 Regular curious people like you? What about regular curious people like me; a Christian? Or regular curious people who just happen to be atheists? Everybody has a voice, and a right to speak their minds.
I really like this program; I like the director, but his spray on hair doesn't help. He's not talking to HSN views. I don't care if you're bald and grey.
I would also like to say that after all the years of ranting about this being a christian nation founded on christian principles, now that this guys sees that never was the case now we dont have a right to freedom of thought and belief ...well then buddy you and your god just come on and try and take it then! I also have a question for you christians who always said our prosperity came from the fact that we were a godly nation....from whence comes it to your rekoning now?
@gooderinhail22 Although the 'founding fathers' were occultists, the original 'founders', i.e., the pilgrims, were Christians; as were the Puritans. Occultists (freemasons, etc.) operate under a tiered, class-based society; the ones at the bottom have no idea what those at the top are doing. So, the movers and shakers of American society have always had their globalist agenda, but the average citizen has been influenced by, and at least somewhat believe in, our Christian roots.
Ok so I was gonna take a nap but I came across this nihilistic religious tooney lune and Because he was talking about the founding fathers of my country I watched and its 3 hours I can never get back...alas. I have known for years (I read) that the founding fathers were aitheists and deists but this guy who sits here and because Ben Franklins buddy buried his cadavers in a manner not consistent with todays methods he MUST have been sacrificing people to Satan, you are pathetic Sir.
Christianity is a death cult of control freaks and I'm glad the founding fathers had the wisdom and good sense not to fall for their controlling, masochistic supernatural bullshit.
I am seeing more of what Mr. Pinto is saying. I believe that in these last days one of the key things will indeed be deception...."be not deceived my brethren."
According to the quotes presented on Obama and Pelosi, they are Christians. Neither of them act like Christians and Obama supports things that blatantly goes against the HOLY BIBLE. Obama broke many hearts by how he has treated America. May GOD bring him to salvation and repentance in Jesus' Name.
@Americanjazzlady Who you call GOD is going to destroy America (Babylon) via Nuclear Missle in WWIII. You white ppl r real idiots. You have no idea what going on right now and have no idea that your beloved America (which you stole and where you massacred and enslaved many ppl, and r still doing today) has in store through the Prophecy of the most High. You dont know that you are an Edomite according to the people and the damn devil as well
@GMSstudent777 The Blood of Jesus is against you satan!
I rebuke you and your prejudice mouth and evil words against me and white people! I am a smart woman and a lady, so do not address me otherwise. What is an EDOMITE...ha ha ha ha???!! NOT!!! I am a Jew and a born-again Christian and I love and respect the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST who is GOD!! BYE. Please leave me alone or I will report you to Youtube.
@Americanjazzlady Correct: "Obama broke many hearts". Incorrect: How you imagine he did this.
Obama is 100% christian, 100% capitalist, and 100% hawkish, and 100% big business, and 100% pro Wall Street: EXACTLY like every other Republican candidate out there.
Here's why people hate Obama: 1) For being George W Bush II, after campaigning as the anti-Bush and someone in touch with the people. 2) For refusing to end the wars. 3) for betraying Social Security with his Grand Bargain scheme...
@cpmkw You are wrong. Obama is muslim. Everyone knows that. Wake up!!! And...all those who voted for him are disappointed because of the lies he told and is still telling. His social security number is from CT from a dead man. giggle There is a bill he passed along with the other crooks that allows terrorists to come into America. NO OBAMA FOR 2012. Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Jesus Christ is Lord and GOD AND KING.
@Americanjazzlady "Obama is muslim". Nonsense. You are a muslim. What I say is as legitimate as what you say. Prove it wrong. You can't. This is really so pitiful. You don't even know what you're talking about. What is a muslim? What is a christian? To you it's a matter of color. That's known as "RACISM". And that's absurd. I ask you: What has Obama *DONE* to show you that he is, despite his own confession, "muslim"? Provide that evidence.
@cpmkw You're a liar just like your father the devil! FYI..
Americanjazzlady is a born-again CHRISTIAN, not muslim! I hate Islam! Obama is a muslim. Everyone knows that. Islam is the most wicked political ideology on earth and in case you haven't heard, Muslims want to destroy America! The BLOOD OF JESUS IS AGAINST YOU SATAN! Do not contact me again. And, in case you don't this.....JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR!!
@Americanjazzlady What's really ridiculous here is that I despise Obama probably much more than you--for *legitimate reasons*--however you force me into "defending" him because you put forth such stupid criticisms that are plainly false. I am politically, totally opposed to Obama. But he is no muslim. This is ridiculous, and is evidence of racism and stupidity.
@cpmkw You are truly a false accusing liar! NO racism here. My last boyfriend was a light skinned black man. In addition,............... I love and respect Allen West who is a black man. The pastors I had in NY are black. I listen to black preachers, black jazz musicians, black actors so please go take your lies elsewhere in the Name of Jesus Christ. Go do a search on Obama. Bug off satan in the Name of Yeshua, the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST.
@Americanjazzlady 4) For refusing to support labor as he'd promised in his campaign he would do. 5) For continuing the Bush tax cuts to the mega-rich. 6) For SOPA, NDAA, and the erosion of civil liberties. 7) For making his health reform a giveaway to the existing insurance system rather than a public program for the benefit of the people. 8) For adopting "Drill Baby Drill", "Clean Coal" and more nukes as his energy policy at the expense of the climate. 9) For Geithner and Summers.
@Americanjazzlady 10) For Emanuel, Daley, and Lew and for bringing pro-establishment, pro-Wall Street conservatives and industry lobbyists into his White House and letting them run the show. 11) For drone strikes and assassinations. 12) For betraying his entire base and turning his administration--on every other issue down the line--into a perfect continuation of the Republican schemes, robberies, and corruptions of of Bush-Cheney.
That's why we need RON PAUL FOR OUR PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I used to think Bush was a good guy, but I was so wrong and may he repent for what he is doing and has done to the American people.
@Americanjazzlady Jesus has nothing to do with politics, so abandon that nonsense #1. #2, Ron Paul is FANTASTIC on half of what he says (civil liberties and foreign policy)--far better than any Dem running. Ron Paul is also *HIDEOUS* on the other half of what he says, which it makes me unable to support him. He's 100% Wall Street. He's 100% corporate welfare. And what's more, he's 100% racist, homophobic and misogynistic. I had no interest in that nonsense, and refuse to support it.
@cpmkw JESUS IS LORD AND HE IS MY LORD AND I WILL NOT ABANDON HIM. BUG OFF DEVIL!! AND...RON PAUL IS NOTHING YOU SAY HE IS. YOU ARE A DECEIVING FALSE ACCUSER.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF VIDEOS SHOWING THAT RON PAUL IS NOT RACIST. BLACK PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM, JEWS VOTE FOR HIM.
JESUS IS LORD. AND JESUS IS LORD OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Is all of this information true? How do we know? Why is Mr. Pinto picking on David Barton, a man who loves God, Jesus and America?? Please, can you answer. Not trying to be disrespectful. I love Jesus Christ, the Father God, the Holy Ghost and the Body of Christ, We all need to know the truth and be involved with our country so GOD will be first place again and HE can heal our land.
WHERE did Mr. PINTO get all this information? Is it proveable? How do we know that this information is truth? I am not trying to be disrespectful. I want to know the truth about my beloved country. .
He said bad things about David Barton who loves the Lord. Why? We, as CHRISTIANS do need to be involved with politics in our country and NOT be lax or indifferent. We need to keep GOD in our country, so America gets healed and blessed! God bless you.
The Father does not punish His creation, rather man punishes himself by creating and demanding a chaotic world by his own quest for licentious freedom. Have at it...The last 30 minutes of this documentary is the most compelling and if you don't have time to listen to all of it, which is most brilliant, then listen to the last 30 minutes.
@regardingme1 i dig you.. i split this documentary up for a two day session.. i watched 1 hour 30 mins last night.. woke up today, had lunch... and watched the last half... i must admit... i did enjoy this documentary, there is a lot of information... I just think everyone is wrong... why is it so hard to find the truth... yet for some can be so easy... i just cannot lay my head down to one idea.. im trying to see and understand the bigger picture.. i hope that is not evil of me..
@revillusi0nz i seek the light of god yet i do not want to be luciferian or labeled as anything... so i dont know what that would make me... new age luciferian? haha.. but yet if i conform to any religion... what does that make me?.. i do not know what i am... but i know deep in my heart that i am not evil... please know this.
@revillusi0nz Jesus Christ is real and what HE did for all of us is real. IF you have ever experienced miracles and the protection of the Living God, you would not doubt. Jesus loves all of us. Earnestly, honestly ask HIM to reveal Himself to you and read the words in red in the Gospels, which are Jesus's words. The spirit realm is real. It is better to be on God's side then satan's. Eternity is forever.
@revillusi0nz My take on it is the lies are so embedded with this hidden guilt given over to us from the liars themselves is the cause for the ambivalence when researching all of this. We go against the grain of both Luciferian and Xtian b/c we dare to question. When we dare to question, we become outcasts not fitting in with any group-think. I gave myself the freedom to question and suffer the consequences for the Truth. That is all we have to save us from the lies...1ove!
Christ said: "Ye worship what ye know not." And this is the burden of the Christian mindset. How is it possible that a Christian does not realize the groundwork of the world, nonetheless the country? The burden of the Christian is the want to worship man and do not understand the religion of their churches. There IS nothing new under the sun. Study to show yourself approved.
Has anyone ever had the notion to research just who King James was? His very essence was to include all faiths only for the benefit of one faith in Lucifer to allow Tuetonic Zionism to take its foothold in the world. I think he was successful. Now, there is no power in anything but the leaders of the world govt and the people are w/o spirit and dumbed down so as not to have any idea of how to stop the world govt now at hand. but for those who do not believe in something, will fall 4 anything
It is worth noting that the Lucifer Rebellion was premised upon good deeds with the liberty of guiding oneself w/o the chains of a Prime Creator. And just as amazing is that the Washington slaves knew of the scarlet woman (Catholic) and gives me great pleasure and satisfaction if this be true. But who "taught" them this being "owned" by Washington? Perhaps it was self-taught from overhearing conversations. Some things are not taught of men but of spiritual interpretation.
Furthermore, deists believe in the First Cause (God) however what god was it that Geo Washington and friends believed in is the question. Akenaton was also a deist but the one god he believed in was himself and caused all to worship him which caused the total and complete destruction of is reign and along with it his mind.
By the fact of the way the founding fathers laid out the architecture and the politics of the govt shows that there is a vile purpose to the USA and it is definitely not inclusive of all beings. There will always be an underclass of citizens for the purposes of the elite and the whole of it is based upon servitude to their god, Lucifer. Their quest for liberty and freedom and their definition of it is truly telling. It is not for all but for The People of the Constitution, not you!
@revillusi0nz Rev, you are correct in that the true origins of Christianity are in fact Luciferian. I mean, not the origins of Christ but the religion that they dreamed of in Nicea to control the minds of men and even before. It has gained tenticles so that if one aligns oneself with any religion in any manner, you are enslaved..including astrotheology where all of it was derived as a personal affront to infallible omniscience and omnipotence of the Creator.
@regardingme1 I do not doubt that.. because Creator is bigger than any stupid star system (Orion) or any of the stories on this planet. I believe in GOD, do not get me wrong, I just have a hard time digesting everything that's been going around on this planet... even astrotheology. GOD did not stop at the ORION Nebula... and ZION/SINAI etc... is not heaven.... Creator is much much bigger than all of that... --BUT-- studying world religions is important in understanding it all..
@revillusi0nz I understand exactly what you are stating. I am familiar with your manner in thinking and applaud that. I too have come to understand the Creator being more than the god of this world and the one galaxy. You have brilliant mind and I respect you as one of the great thinkers on YT. If one doesn't study world religions there is no possible way to fully understand why our world has devolved. Xtianity only cares for itself and its politic-word to the wise (wink/wink)
@regardingme1 my comment is a little off by the looks of it.. but there are things bottled up inside me at the moment with all the previous videos and stuff ive been looking up... just trying to put it together.. for myself you know... i know no one out there will understand.. maybe you might but maybe not.. ive just been having a lot of personal revelations as well... and a lot of dreams... dealing with all this... dealing with religion... and astrotheology.. i got beef with both!
still... "christianity" is keeping people enslaved (along with all religions 888 & 666)... no matter what you say or what biased view is shown thru this vid, "they" created YOUR religion... "they've got you"... that goes for christians & luciferians... to me, they are all one in the same... there's a light and a dark to everything...
Thanks for the excellent work. It is very important for 'We, The Zombies' to wake up to reality. This information clearly has much to do with everything is happening and has happened in this Millennium and before it. God Bless!
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Now let me see....this video seems to be as this example: 150 years ago my ancestors came here and they were Christian but today I am not so that means the country is not Christian today. LOL OH give me a break. This nation was Christian then and still is today.
@Marksnotebook This country has been starting in 1776 (literally that's when it switched from majority Native American Spiritualism) a majority Christian nation, but the founding principles were always enlightenment principles and the founding fathers were above all Enlightenment thinkers.
When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obligated to call for help of the civil power, it's a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.-- Benjamin Franklin It is UN American for the PUBLIC to Support these PRIVATE BUSINESSES! We TAX other ADDICTIONS, Surely, RELIGION is more DEADLY than Alcohol & Nicotine.TAKE the Churches Mosques, Synagogues OFF WELFARE! PAY UP!
Interesting. Here's another video about the founders that covers their beliefs in ways that public schools often overlook. I hope you all find it as informative as I did. God bless!
(Just type The Founders' Dark Side into youtube--it'll be the first hit.)
@reader642 Actually if you read public school textbooks they often say rather overtly that the founding fathers based their stuff on Enlightenment principles. The only coverup of this is in churches and those claiming the founding fathers were Christian and founding the country on Christian values. Some were Christian, but not evangelical but many were deists, and the principles they used were Enlightenment principles.
yawn....I agree with the research, but I laugh at the researchers naive defense of Christianity. Christianity = Gnosticism, and this is what all knowledgeable people understand. Those who study the inner esoteric ideas, the metaphysical theology, know this is indisputably true. If you oppose the 'enlightenment' thinking i.e. gnosticism/secular spirituality, of the founding fathers, then you are by definition a JUDAIZER, and you would be better served to return to the Hebraic tradition......
@MegaJoshin .....WITHOUT tagging along, with a sentimentalism, the figure of Jesus. The concept of jesus as taught by early christianity and later christianity is gnostic; this is is what is meant by the Rabbinic tale when a gentile comes up to a rabbi and asks him "what is essence of Torah", and Hillel responds, while telling him to hop on one leg "do not do unto others what is hateful to you". The gentile thinking of the period was all about the 'general' or 'panacea' type approach to God...
@MegaJoshin ..The Rabbis insisted that contrary to the pagan approach of seeking the absolute (one overarching principle i.e. one leg) while bypassing the means, one must concentrate on the means (the moral, i.e. do not do to others etc) in order to preserve the fidelity of the general. .
@MegaJoshin "the primitive and genuine doctrines" refers to the metaphysics stripped of its allegorical coverings - which is what jefferson called "scaffolding"... Chris Pinto, you are an ignorant man. You're research is very interesting, but your defense of the Christian faith is so out of place. The Christian faith, as all masons, and gnostics well know, is just another form of a perennial wisdom, which appears simultaneously the world over.
Only Hebraism - the Bible, differs, and, contrary to this hateful "all that is needed is faith" creed, the difference is PHILOSOPHICAL and METAPHYSICAL, which is what the ancient priesthood was all about. Learn something about the Hebrew Bible, at the esoteric, and then hopefully you will mature past this sentimental and childish need to cling to the figure of 'jesus'. Nothing irritates me more then this childishness. GOD is what you should be calling out to.
I couldn't give a rats ass if they were christians or not. I just really don't like the fact that they hid their true faiths, I mean you'd think that'ed be something we should know before hand, oh and don't forget they're shaped with a little psychopathic masonic brainwashing "teachings"...
y hide ya faith stand up for JESUS the way he did for u,that's how i know they a lie,GOD didn't hide his love deny HIM on earth he will deny u in heaven
y hide ya faith stand up for JESUS the way he did for u,that's how i know they a lie,GOD didn't hide his love deny HIM on earth he will deny u in heaven
y hide ya faith stand up for JESUS the way he did for u,that's how i know they a lie,GOD didn't hide his love deny HIM on earth he will deny u in heaven
1st. stop showing white people as the people of the bible. DO research and you will see that's not historically accurate. 2nd. Don't make documentaries if you can't at least look up what words actually were used during biblical times. Virgin referred 2 damsel/ maiden of marriageable age, NOT someone who had not had sex. 3rd. Don't hinge all this time in the documentary on if we believe the virgin birth! 4th.Recognize his name wasn't JESUS in the first place, the Hebrew language had no J's!!!!
@dezinediva Party true JESUS in hebrew is Yesua but their ''Y'' is not how we pronouce it either in fact The J in hebrew is halfway between J and and Y. But it matters not as God and indeed Jesus speak all the laungages of men and angels so it is pure semantics and quite irrelevant!
@bigcoolviking Yesua is actually the way you would have written Joshua. It bears no resemblance to "Jesus". Also, most people dont know this but Iesus was a COMMON NAME before during and after the Time of Christ. His name was Yashiyah which means our savior in Hebrew. "Jesus" does not mean that at all, and if it's all just semantics then why is the name "Jesus" the only one taught in churches, printed everywhere, etc. It's not semantics, it's truth vs. false.
@bigcoolviking and where's the rest of the refuting of anyting else I said? Don't just focus on what you call semantics. Either it was his name or it wasn't and it wasnt as you just admitted it wasnt Jesus, but what about the rest of what I said?
The Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
It has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Muslims
and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Muslim nation.
It is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
57:30 I'm no mason by any means, but y'all need to keep in mind that God demands repentance. That is a critical part of the Good News. You are not saved because you're good enough. No, the wages of sin is death, and all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, but you better believe God has a standard for you to meet, which is only attainable by faith in the propitiation that was put forth for mankind. Turn from sin to God. Do what God teaches. The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Holy2theName 6 hours ago
...Lil Bush and Darth Cheney(aka Dr.Evil) Oil/Defense Contractors for war and profit campaign allowed 911 happen..." the plane is 10 miles away sir, do the orders still stand"- Cheney" of corse they do, have you heard anything to the contarary!" oh, and the "Al-Quida" who was responsible...yeah, they funded that too..takes money to make money though..sick society we live in, truly hypocritical and people will believe any lie they are told if its on fox news, sad little sheepohhhbbbaaammma! haha
thirstio2000 22 hours ago
The Rothchilds have funded both sides of every war for centuries lining thier pockets with the blood money from thier sacrifices, so dont tell me there isnt proof of sacrifices..the Bush Dynasty are the new Rothchilds, aintcha herd( sheep pun.heheh) Prescott Bush's bank funded the nazis,the smarter older George brought the New World Order into full affect(was also in Dallas when Kennedy as shot, tied into Lee Harvey and then became head of the CIA..then when his half monkey inbred kid took over.
thirstio2000 22 hours ago
were talking about a group of people who meet secretely, wear klan like robes, phony Christians who with Pagan/Satanic/Zionist agendas..praise members like Albert Pike (who created the Ku Klux Klan) and black members (more phonyness hypocracy) such as the Richeous Rev. Jessie Jackson who sit in rooms with Mr.Pikes pictures in the Masonic Lodges and ohh yeah, icing on the cake..theres a huge monument of Albert Pike in D.C....i bet they just forget to stop there on the million man march.
thirstio2000 22 hours ago
Fuck youtube. censors every damn post I try to make.
LarryHarveyMusic 1 day ago
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Uhhhh.. So now, supposedly, we're supposed to believe what someone suspects Jefferson was thinking when he wrote the constitution? That's hearsay and irrelevant. What they're asking here is for me to dismiss one theory for another.
LarryHarveyMusic 1 day ago
Deist and free of religious dogma , I believe in God and hope for happiness beyond this life ....
WMacDonald1978 3 days ago 2
@sutonchef Seriously? Grow-up.
aprox23 4 days ago
America's dirty secrets
leonardoH05 4 days ago
The Founding Fathers were great men... they broke away from the degenerate and broken system of old world tyranny and slavery and blazed open a path in the new world for freedom and justice for all. Today, old world intrigue has enveloped the American nation and it is been brought down physically and spiritually.
GB26007 4 days ago
This video is propaganda, it is also anti American... they even twist and pervert bible prophecy and apply it to America when bible prophecy as it is written in the bible was written for the nation of Israel/Jerusalem in the first century.
GB26007 4 days ago
GW attended the episcopal church in Alexandria, but he also revered the great architect at the lodge of his youth. building still standing by the way.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
I disagree with Jefferson on one point, the Journal of American Medicine (JAMA) had debated what JC did in those miracles. perhaps coma in one case, and healing with medicine possible as JC was in egypt as a young man. could be.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
mystery of Jefferson he was a red head, but one painting has him with blue eyes another has him with brown.....don't know.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
dear friends, read again: "it is Liberty and Justice for ALL".....that means ALL.......ironically G.W. thought this was the Promised Land, ENJOY...we have it all here....in this life, in this land. Paine, Madison and Jefferson helped you even in this 21st century... and yes GW and Lee did pray so go ahead, but not all have to.....
thepixieful1 4 days ago
oooh james monroe is from my new town, I did not know he was so handsome.....neat.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
James Madison, John Adams, Samuel Adams, John Hancock, Robert Treat Paine, Edward Rutledge, Richard Henry Lee, etc. etc. were all Christians. Thomas Paine was not a founding father, he was just influential in his political agitations.
StAugustine79 1 week ago
@StAugustine79 growing up in one of the original 13. I knew the Paine family. glad to hear of Robert Treat Paine. but Thomas Paine was an important rabble rouser, recent research shows he was at the French Revolution....he got around. but no he was NOT a christians. there is more to running a country than church. be well. and god bless. and there were two Paine families, in the 20 century married each other and were my neighbors. one a church goer the other smoked cigars.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
everybody who opposes religion is a satanist or a member of a group orgy
....and every member of the freemasons is also thereby a satanist
great logic....*facepalm
The story behind the cadeavers Franklin worked on isnt this dramatic at all. There was no connection to human sacrifices or anything these morons are trying to imply.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 sounds like a fun lodge party to me, I am making the cupcakes right now......lol.....hope Ben Franklin likes icing.......I love that Thomas Paine. if you visit washington please visit the National Portrait Gallery. or look at him here. he needed a bad raincoat, but he could WRITE. some thought recently he may have contributed to jefferson's we the people in later paragraphs.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
This doc. starts off in a very scholarly manner and then starts drawing connections between Jefferson and Hitler. Well done....real classy.
Theres nothing funnier than a religious man backed into a corner by reality
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 cute like that one.......
thepixieful1 4 days ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 cigar?
thepixieful1 4 days ago
WE MUST SUPPORT MEN OF MORAL BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES LIKE THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO BELIEVED THE BIBLE WAS THE MORAL FOUNDATION OF OUR NATION WE MUST TEACH PREACH AND HOLD FORTH THE WORD OF LIFE WHICH IS GODS WORD THE BIBLE.
sutonchef 1 week ago
@sutonchef
neither satan nor hell exist...just like how santa or the north pole workshop.
The founding fathers were sexist, racist war mongerers and even slave owners...
There is nothing we should be envious of them for.
USMarineRifleman0311 1 week ago 2
@USMarineRifleman0311 Really? You have the uninterrupted right to post what you think on this youtube commentary because of our founders. Jefferson himself denounced slavery even though he owned slaves. It was a residual immoral institution that most of our founders wanted phased out. Our founders threw off the shackles of the European monarchy and aristocracy and were successful in the political enlightenment in creating the most vibrant Republic in the history of humanity.
StAugustine79 1 week ago
@StAugustine79 amen, ah women, yes they threw off europe, and we have freedom of religion, or from it. the europeans had a state church as did virginia in the beginning and maryland. but the country itself was NOT founded as a christian nation. wonderful you can pick any religion you like isn't it. and Ben was a party guy.....Go Ben, go Ben......diplomat and ladies man.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 have you read the Federalist Papers or seem the The Adams on PBS about abigail and john adams. Abigail said "remember the ladies" for the time this country was more egalitarian and remains so. keep reading. it's not perfect but it is the BEST we've got here on the planet so far.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
JESUS SON OF GOD IS THE HOPE OF ALL MANKIND THIS WORLD SYSTEM IS PASSING AWAY ONLY JESUS SON OF GOD CAN SAVE US FROM SIN SATAN AND HELL FIRE
sutonchef 1 week ago
As for Christianity, that is the "Old World" religion that is been used to destroy America today. It has become a religion of Revolution, all you hear from the prophets of doom on the pulpits in the churches is Anti American propaganda. There loyalty is to the Old World and not to the New World of America.
GB26007 1 week ago
@GB26007 sir, that is a valid point I have never noted before. thanks. cigar?
thepixieful1 4 days ago
@GB26007 do not discount however that the old playbook is useful for several ends, but that would be telling. be well. signed, goddess semiramis.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
Funny how they try and use a few words and colloquialisms to try and show how these people, most of which who had much disdain towards the religious and little to no supernatural belief, were believers. A few of them wrote some of the harshest words I've ever read about religion, priests, believers, and supernatural belief.
PS: Even the most hardened, confident atheist today might say "Ohhh, thank god" once in a while. It's a cultural thing, not a belief thing.
IndyCub86 1 week ago
The founding fathers were occultists. the occult is logic and reason. to the religious man, that is an evil act. Yes they were against Christianity because it it evil - especially the catholic church. It's not some "secret that this is what they were into. The symbolism is everywhere, and it was known AT THE TIME!!!
thefranciswatts 1 week ago
@thefranciswatts Logic and reason is not opposed to belief in God. All of the scientists and philosophers that ushered in the Scientific Revolution were christians.
StAugustine79 1 week ago
Thomas Paine hated Christianity, he wrote a whole booklet on his disdain for it. Thomas Jefforson was so disgusted with the supernatural events ascribed to Jesus in the bible that he tore it up a wrote his own bible!!!. Benjamin Franklin was a Freemason and Grand Master of the French Lodge of Nine Muses! and George Washington was also a Freemason. You are lying to yourself and the people of America when you try and change history and say America was founded on Christianity.
GB26007 2 weeks ago
No that is more lies, The American founding Fathers did not base nothing on Christianity. The American founding fathers based America on classical Greek and Roman philosopy. They were members of the Enlightenment and they had a dislike for the version of Christianity as you know it today. They believed Jesus was a good man, but only a man never the less. They believed that the story of Jesus was nothing more than the same old mythological story told by all thee ancient sun worshipping nations
GB26007 2 weeks ago
and thank goodness they weren't Christians either! Can you imagine how much more religious intolerance would be plaguing the U.S.A today if they were?
madlandlizard 2 weeks ago
Thanks!
asas2jh 2 weeks ago in playlist NWO, Faith of Founding Fathers
Another supposed authoritative look at human reasoning that dilutes the Word of God and deludes people with half truths and outright lies. Facts are skewed in this work to satisfy the authors personal distaste for the Constitution and it's founding fathers. At no time in history has a government been bound by such a restrictive document that guaranteed the Rights of the People, for all time, was not in the hands of government but rather "We the People" would maintain control of government.
jrjny2scssyt 2 weeks ago
@jrjny2scssyt that was then. this is now. we no longer are wielding the power in this nation. things have changed and you cant see it? Read 'Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship' by paul and philip collins
DMCx2MT 2 weeks ago
@DMCx2MT We ni longer wield the power simply because America went to sleep and allowed Corporate giants to take over government and diminish the value of the Constitution. I have spent my entire life in service under oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic only toi find after being disabled doing my job that my life's efforts have been wasted by a generation that has no appreciation for our freedom. I understand we have lost, but WHY???
jrjny2scssyt 2 weeks ago
George Washington loved his Freemason KJB. He kissed it upon becoming the first president.
The Christian religion will collapse because [SUN]day is the false sabbath. But it's all astrology, right?
patriotadEEUU 2 weeks ago
So why do freemasons use the KJB?
It was created for them, that's why.
But it's the final word of God according to "Christians"
patriotadEEUU 2 weeks ago
The "King George the III" was no longer a king since he was subject to the international bankers! Usury was the reason for the Revolutionary War.
But "Christians" love the mighty dollar. It feeds their "worldly" needs. It doesn't matter if it makes them complicit to war, death, abortion, usury, by using the mighty dollar.
In the end, when the Word of God is spread all over the world, they'll just flip over to Romans 13.
Btw, does this video explain that Freemason use the King James Bible?
patriotadEEUU 2 weeks ago
This the guy at the end of this video is going against the very worlds of Jesus Christ and the Gospel. Jesus or the apostles did not force people to believe in what they were saying, Jesus did not ram his teachings down peoples throats that didn't want to listen. Jesus didn't build big organizations and churches and governments. Jesus came to do away with the priesthoods and temples!. His teachings were simple... "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and "worship God in Spirit and in Truth".
GB26007 2 weeks ago 7
@GB26007 Well said my friend!! Ineffindeeeeed!!! LOL
PeacefulSage7 5 days ago
America is the only nation in history that has made the Government the subject of the people rather than the people been subject to the government. The consititution is the chains that bound the government from becoming oppressive. The founding Fathers realized that human beings are born with certain Creator endowed rights which no priesthood, monarchy or Government can take away. They believed that Government was formed solely for the purpose of protecting those creator endowed rights.
GB26007 2 weeks ago
@GB26007 beautifully written. thanks.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
America is not a Christian Nation, the founding fathers were members of the Enlightenment and founded a secular government where people could come and worship the God of there choice. The Christian Church was killing and burning people at the stake who didn't agree with there dogma. America is the greatest nation to ever exist, it's the only nation that gave the common man freedom, They cut ties with the despotic priesthoods and monarchies of the old world and opened the way to a new world
GB26007 2 weeks ago
@GB26007 The freedom of belief and religion is not a secular viewpoint but a Christian one. If it wasn't for our founding father basing their beliefs, this government, and the laws around Christianity, we wouldn't have the freedom we do today. And it's interesting how Christianity is being swept away so gradually, so is our security and freedom. And you need to clarify when you say the Christian Church, the Church of england was not Christian at all.
cubed07 2 weeks ago
@cubed07 we have wonderful freedom of religion or from it, this was put into place as virginia had the state church C of E in 1600's as you note, in it's founding and Maryland had RC.....now we have freedom of or from.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
@GB26007 The church persecuted the protestants or Christians the most out of any religious groups. A huge majority of the burnings, deaths, and imprisonment were leveled against true Christians who rejected the palpacy and their twisted interpretation of the BIble and were wanting freedom to have their own bible's in their native tongues so worship God freely. This is why our founders fled to America, so that they could practice Christianity openly in the public without fear of reprisal
cubed07 2 weeks ago
@cubed07 yes, but read Pagans and Christians by Robin Fox at most libraries in history section. odd groups in inquisition, most are noted for the first time in work noted.
thepixieful1 4 days ago
@thepixieful1 Thanks for the reference to Robin Lane Fox's books. They are in my local library. :)
jfsfrnd 4 days ago
My "father the devil", huh? Why am I talking to you. Such stupid, provocative and totally mindless nonsense. Bite me, you nut.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
The bible says nothing about gay marriage, or abortion. Founders scream they're anti-religous and we should believe them. Now *CONTEMPORARY PEOPLE* are *ON FILM* confessing that they *ARE* Christian... and we're supposed to NOT believe them??? Upon what basis? Where is there any rationality or consistency in this?
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
Scary music builds when they start showing people of diverse cultures and praising the nonviolence of Gandhi. So nutty and outlandish.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
Bizarre thing: The point of this video seems to be to suggest that the "Founding Fathers" were non-Christian or anti-Christian... Then it's suggested that Washington was secretly Catholic(?) Um, what exactly do you imagine Catholicism is? It's a form of Christianity that's been around for a thousand + years before the advent of the Protestant school of Christianity. It's as if those putting this video together have no idea that Catholicism=Christianity.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
Ironically this is actually a great video. They imagine they're denigrating Payne, Jefferson, etc, while they're actually exposing the truth about their non-religious integrity, and making them seem great, principled people against the onslaught of superstition, the innumerable horrors brought forth and protected by religion in general, and Christianity in particular. Who are you going to be more influenced by and hold in higher esteem, Thomas Jefferson, or some shameless religious manipulator?
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
in fact most of you are afraid about the end of christianity, and less by your rights being fucked up....,???
MrArken0808 3 weeks ago
DC was bad from day 01 -- just see: Civil War
12bamish 3 weeks ago
I think, therefore I am.. Not a sheep.. LoL..
Supernautsintime 4 weeks ago
Such a long documentary - but I enjoyed every minute of it. Very eye opening!
ChrisMaybe86 4 weeks ago
a declaration of independence is not evil, a bill of rights is not evil , a theocracy ruling with an iron rod , is like the days of rome , so called authorities commiting atrocities in the name of god,,,,, be careful here, they want a war, this is by design,,,,,,
lastchancemst1 4 weeks ago
What is the big revelation here? Is it just for you christians and what you were told? This country is free. We were never set up as a christian country. We are secular just like you want it for muslims. They write the word "creator" and you assume it is the creator you worship. The founding fathers were extremely intelligent and set up the first truly unrepressed country. Jefferson recognized the collection of scripts that made the christian bible.
nejjjen 4 weeks ago
@nejjjen YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! But you're also wrong! Getting rid of tyranny was the primary objective of our independence from England's iron fist and taxation, but the document produced to achieve this end was the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights. Time and a generation who has been allowed to enjoy it's freedom without supporting it's values have allowed corporate takeover and dilution of the Constitution's true intent by crooked politicians.
jrjny2scssyt 2 weeks ago
As a Muslim, we believe in the virgin birth and believe Isa(as) Jesus was a Messenger of God. He did not die on the cross nor was he even crucified but a man of his liking. It states this in the bible itself
ArchaicReality 1 month ago
@ArchaicReality you are terribly deceived Jesus Christ is God incarnate who suffered and died on the cross for our sin. Jesus said "Before Abraham was. I AM!"
SuperHippy7 3 weeks ago
@SuperHippy7 I don't argue just from doctrine either but from certain knowledge of Him. Before anyone tried to convert me with their arguments.
SuperHippy7 3 weeks ago
@ArchaicReality WHERE???? You don't need to lie about my Holy Bible unless you're looking to have your Koran trashed in like manner. Don't state as fact anything about a written work you're not equipped to prove. It isn't in the Bible anywhere that Jesus had a substitute pay for our sins because He did it all by Himself, as only the divine Son of God could have.
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pinealgland01 1 month ago
If this be true, but cannot be proven, why bring it up? Senseless at best. We know that these people where the elite of their day and indeed are not without their flaws. In the end a great and just nation was formed and became a very bright light in an otherwise dark and bleak World. God works in mysterious ways.
62636263c 1 month ago
@62636263c "a great and just nation was formed"???...ROFLOLOL....whew...thanks.
paulpaid 1 month ago
@paulpaid I'm not saying that it is any longer, but for a time it was for the most part. Once slavery was ended, it was the greatest and most just of nations. We have now moved into empire and tyranny and no longer are what we once were. No one alive today has seen that great nation with their own eyes.
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senses78 1 month ago
The bible is a book. Soo maybe you guys should read it to see how it fits in with usa history, its to deep#just saying
pupusas132 1 month ago
The makers of the film, obviously biased by religion, are certainly not with liberty, the founders and the constitution. The knowledge of the whole universe isn't contained within one book. Grow up, and get some courage to rise above your narrow minded worldview.
xP3AC3MAK3Rx 1 month ago
It's funny to me that, if the founding fathers actually were Christians, that they'd incite a revolution. No where in the Bible does it advocate rebelling against established authority, but serving God in whatever set of circumstances you happen to find yourself.
RBNightlinger 1 month ago
@RBNightlinger the bible is full of stories of a deliverer revolting against established authority...read it.
ludwiggy69 1 month ago
Why is there so much madness between both arrant atheists and millennial Christians in this list of comments? You're both addicts looking for a fix. This is meant to be historical--for regular curious people.
LeonSpinx1 1 month ago
@LeonSpinx1 Regular curious people like you? What about regular curious people like me; a Christian? Or regular curious people who just happen to be atheists? Everybody has a voice, and a right to speak their minds.
RBNightlinger 1 month ago
I really like this program; I like the director, but his spray on hair doesn't help. He's not talking to HSN views. I don't care if you're bald and grey.
LeonSpinx1 1 month ago
I would also like to say that after all the years of ranting about this being a christian nation founded on christian principles, now that this guys sees that never was the case now we dont have a right to freedom of thought and belief ...well then buddy you and your god just come on and try and take it then! I also have a question for you christians who always said our prosperity came from the fact that we were a godly nation....from whence comes it to your rekoning now?
gooderinhail22 1 month ago
@gooderinhail22 Although the 'founding fathers' were occultists, the original 'founders', i.e., the pilgrims, were Christians; as were the Puritans. Occultists (freemasons, etc.) operate under a tiered, class-based society; the ones at the bottom have no idea what those at the top are doing. So, the movers and shakers of American society have always had their globalist agenda, but the average citizen has been influenced by, and at least somewhat believe in, our Christian roots.
RBNightlinger 1 month ago
@gooderinhail22 "we dont have a right to freedom of thought and belief "
Please explain. We can worship as we wish to, assemble and protest, write what desire, and so on. This isn't Pol Pot era Cambodia after all.
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@gooderinhail22 "we dont have a right to freedom of thought and belief "
Please explain. We can worship as we wish to, assemble and protest, write what desire, and so on. This isn't Pol Pot era Cambodia after all.
richcapo 1 month ago
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@gooderinhail22 "we dont have a right to freedom of thought and belief "
Please explain. We can worship as we wish to, assemble and protest, write what desire, and so on. This isn't Pol Pot era Cambodia after all.
richcapo 1 month ago
Ok so I was gonna take a nap but I came across this nihilistic religious tooney lune and Because he was talking about the founding fathers of my country I watched and its 3 hours I can never get back...alas. I have known for years (I read) that the founding fathers were aitheists and deists but this guy who sits here and because Ben Franklins buddy buried his cadavers in a manner not consistent with todays methods he MUST have been sacrificing people to Satan, you are pathetic Sir.
gooderinhail22 1 month ago
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BeSsbad 1 month ago
Christianity is a death cult of control freaks and I'm glad the founding fathers had the wisdom and good sense not to fall for their controlling, masochistic supernatural bullshit.
Wit 1 month ago
I am seeing more of what Mr. Pinto is saying. I believe that in these last days one of the key things will indeed be deception...."be not deceived my brethren."
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
According to the quotes presented on Obama and Pelosi, they are Christians. Neither of them act like Christians and Obama supports things that blatantly goes against the HOLY BIBLE. Obama broke many hearts by how he has treated America. May GOD bring him to salvation and repentance in Jesus' Name.
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago 3
@Americanjazzlady Who you call GOD is going to destroy America (Babylon) via Nuclear Missle in WWIII. You white ppl r real idiots. You have no idea what going on right now and have no idea that your beloved America (which you stole and where you massacred and enslaved many ppl, and r still doing today) has in store through the Prophecy of the most High. You dont know that you are an Edomite according to the people and the damn devil as well
GMSstudent777 1 month ago
@GMSstudent777 The Blood of Jesus is against you satan!
I rebuke you and your prejudice mouth and evil words against me and white people! I am a smart woman and a lady, so do not address me otherwise. What is an EDOMITE...ha ha ha ha???!! NOT!!! I am a Jew and a born-again Christian and I love and respect the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST who is GOD!! BYE. Please leave me alone or I will report you to Youtube.
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
@Americanjazzlady
The validity of rational thought and science is against you MORON!
91lilfrozone23 1 month ago
@91lilfrozone23 BUG OFF SATAN IN JESUS' NAME! NO MORON DEVILS ON ME!!!
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
@Americanjazzlady Correct: "Obama broke many hearts". Incorrect: How you imagine he did this.
Obama is 100% christian, 100% capitalist, and 100% hawkish, and 100% big business, and 100% pro Wall Street: EXACTLY like every other Republican candidate out there.
Here's why people hate Obama: 1) For being George W Bush II, after campaigning as the anti-Bush and someone in touch with the people. 2) For refusing to end the wars. 3) for betraying Social Security with his Grand Bargain scheme...
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
@cpmkw You are wrong. Obama is muslim. Everyone knows that. Wake up!!! And...all those who voted for him are disappointed because of the lies he told and is still telling. His social security number is from CT from a dead man. giggle There is a bill he passed along with the other crooks that allows terrorists to come into America. NO OBAMA FOR 2012. Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Jesus Christ is Lord and GOD AND KING.
Americanjazzlady 3 weeks ago
@Americanjazzlady "Obama is muslim". Nonsense. You are a muslim. What I say is as legitimate as what you say. Prove it wrong. You can't. This is really so pitiful. You don't even know what you're talking about. What is a muslim? What is a christian? To you it's a matter of color. That's known as "RACISM". And that's absurd. I ask you: What has Obama *DONE* to show you that he is, despite his own confession, "muslim"? Provide that evidence.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
@cpmkw You're a liar just like your father the devil! FYI..
Americanjazzlady is a born-again CHRISTIAN, not muslim! I hate Islam! Obama is a muslim. Everyone knows that. Islam is the most wicked political ideology on earth and in case you haven't heard, Muslims want to destroy America! The BLOOD OF JESUS IS AGAINST YOU SATAN! Do not contact me again. And, in case you don't this.....JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR!!
Americanjazzlady 3 weeks ago
@Americanjazzlady What's really ridiculous here is that I despise Obama probably much more than you--for *legitimate reasons*--however you force me into "defending" him because you put forth such stupid criticisms that are plainly false. I am politically, totally opposed to Obama. But he is no muslim. This is ridiculous, and is evidence of racism and stupidity.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
@cpmkw You are truly a false accusing liar! NO racism here. My last boyfriend was a light skinned black man. In addition,............... I love and respect Allen West who is a black man. The pastors I had in NY are black. I listen to black preachers, black jazz musicians, black actors so please go take your lies elsewhere in the Name of Jesus Christ. Go do a search on Obama. Bug off satan in the Name of Yeshua, the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST.
Americanjazzlady 3 weeks ago
@Americanjazzlady 4) For refusing to support labor as he'd promised in his campaign he would do. 5) For continuing the Bush tax cuts to the mega-rich. 6) For SOPA, NDAA, and the erosion of civil liberties. 7) For making his health reform a giveaway to the existing insurance system rather than a public program for the benefit of the people. 8) For adopting "Drill Baby Drill", "Clean Coal" and more nukes as his energy policy at the expense of the climate. 9) For Geithner and Summers.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
@Americanjazzlady 10) For Emanuel, Daley, and Lew and for bringing pro-establishment, pro-Wall Street conservatives and industry lobbyists into his White House and letting them run the show. 11) For drone strikes and assassinations. 12) For betraying his entire base and turning his administration--on every other issue down the line--into a perfect continuation of the Republican schemes, robberies, and corruptions of of Bush-Cheney.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
@cpmkw Most of this I agree with.
That's why we need RON PAUL FOR OUR PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I used to think Bush was a good guy, but I was so wrong and may he repent for what he is doing and has done to the American people.
Jesus is Lord.
Americanjazzlady 3 weeks ago
@Americanjazzlady Jesus has nothing to do with politics, so abandon that nonsense #1. #2, Ron Paul is FANTASTIC on half of what he says (civil liberties and foreign policy)--far better than any Dem running. Ron Paul is also *HIDEOUS* on the other half of what he says, which it makes me unable to support him. He's 100% Wall Street. He's 100% corporate welfare. And what's more, he's 100% racist, homophobic and misogynistic. I had no interest in that nonsense, and refuse to support it.
cpmkw 3 weeks ago
@cpmkw JESUS IS LORD AND HE IS MY LORD AND I WILL NOT ABANDON HIM. BUG OFF DEVIL!! AND...RON PAUL IS NOTHING YOU SAY HE IS. YOU ARE A DECEIVING FALSE ACCUSER.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF VIDEOS SHOWING THAT RON PAUL IS NOT RACIST. BLACK PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM, JEWS VOTE FOR HIM.
JESUS IS LORD. AND JESUS IS LORD OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Americanjazzlady 3 weeks ago
@Americanjazzlady you really are silly
KyaniDave 1 week ago
@KyaniDave You are so kind. Thank you. God bless you. Jesus loves me this I know cause the BIBLE TELLS ME SO!!
Jesus is my Lord and my Savior. The joy of the Lord is my strength!
Americanjazzlady 1 week ago
Is that Crowley related to Aleister Crowley?? YIKES!! Bad dudes.
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
Is all of this information true? How do we know? Why is Mr. Pinto picking on David Barton, a man who loves God, Jesus and America?? Please, can you answer. Not trying to be disrespectful. I love Jesus Christ, the Father God, the Holy Ghost and the Body of Christ, We all need to know the truth and be involved with our country so GOD will be first place again and HE can heal our land.
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
WHERE did Mr. PINTO get all this information? Is it proveable? How do we know that this information is truth? I am not trying to be disrespectful. I want to know the truth about my beloved country. .
He said bad things about David Barton who loves the Lord. Why? We, as CHRISTIANS do need to be involved with politics in our country and NOT be lax or indifferent. We need to keep GOD in our country, so America gets healed and blessed! God bless you.
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
The Father does not punish His creation, rather man punishes himself by creating and demanding a chaotic world by his own quest for licentious freedom. Have at it...The last 30 minutes of this documentary is the most compelling and if you don't have time to listen to all of it, which is most brilliant, then listen to the last 30 minutes.
regardingme1 1 month ago
@regardingme1 i dig you.. i split this documentary up for a two day session.. i watched 1 hour 30 mins last night.. woke up today, had lunch... and watched the last half... i must admit... i did enjoy this documentary, there is a lot of information... I just think everyone is wrong... why is it so hard to find the truth... yet for some can be so easy... i just cannot lay my head down to one idea.. im trying to see and understand the bigger picture.. i hope that is not evil of me..
revillusi0nz 1 month ago
@revillusi0nz i seek the light of god yet i do not want to be luciferian or labeled as anything... so i dont know what that would make me... new age luciferian? haha.. but yet if i conform to any religion... what does that make me?.. i do not know what i am... but i know deep in my heart that i am not evil... please know this.
revillusi0nz 1 month ago
@revillusi0nz Jesus Christ is real and what HE did for all of us is real. IF you have ever experienced miracles and the protection of the Living God, you would not doubt. Jesus loves all of us. Earnestly, honestly ask HIM to reveal Himself to you and read the words in red in the Gospels, which are Jesus's words. The spirit realm is real. It is better to be on God's side then satan's. Eternity is forever.
Americanjazzlady 1 month ago
@revillusi0nz My take on it is the lies are so embedded with this hidden guilt given over to us from the liars themselves is the cause for the ambivalence when researching all of this. We go against the grain of both Luciferian and Xtian b/c we dare to question. When we dare to question, we become outcasts not fitting in with any group-think. I gave myself the freedom to question and suffer the consequences for the Truth. That is all we have to save us from the lies...1ove!
regardingme1 1 month ago
Christ said: "Ye worship what ye know not." And this is the burden of the Christian mindset. How is it possible that a Christian does not realize the groundwork of the world, nonetheless the country? The burden of the Christian is the want to worship man and do not understand the religion of their churches. There IS nothing new under the sun. Study to show yourself approved.
regardingme1 1 month ago
Has anyone ever had the notion to research just who King James was? His very essence was to include all faiths only for the benefit of one faith in Lucifer to allow Tuetonic Zionism to take its foothold in the world. I think he was successful. Now, there is no power in anything but the leaders of the world govt and the people are w/o spirit and dumbed down so as not to have any idea of how to stop the world govt now at hand. but for those who do not believe in something, will fall 4 anything
regardingme1 1 month ago
It is worth noting that the Lucifer Rebellion was premised upon good deeds with the liberty of guiding oneself w/o the chains of a Prime Creator. And just as amazing is that the Washington slaves knew of the scarlet woman (Catholic) and gives me great pleasure and satisfaction if this be true. But who "taught" them this being "owned" by Washington? Perhaps it was self-taught from overhearing conversations. Some things are not taught of men but of spiritual interpretation.
regardingme1 1 month ago
Furthermore, deists believe in the First Cause (God) however what god was it that Geo Washington and friends believed in is the question. Akenaton was also a deist but the one god he believed in was himself and caused all to worship him which caused the total and complete destruction of is reign and along with it his mind.
regardingme1 1 month ago
By the fact of the way the founding fathers laid out the architecture and the politics of the govt shows that there is a vile purpose to the USA and it is definitely not inclusive of all beings. There will always be an underclass of citizens for the purposes of the elite and the whole of it is based upon servitude to their god, Lucifer. Their quest for liberty and freedom and their definition of it is truly telling. It is not for all but for The People of the Constitution, not you!
regardingme1 1 month ago
"because they want to promote christian ideals and values in america".. because they wanna keep your ass enslaved. ha.
revillusi0nz 1 month ago
@revillusi0nz Rev, you are correct in that the true origins of Christianity are in fact Luciferian. I mean, not the origins of Christ but the religion that they dreamed of in Nicea to control the minds of men and even before. It has gained tenticles so that if one aligns oneself with any religion in any manner, you are enslaved..including astrotheology where all of it was derived as a personal affront to infallible omniscience and omnipotence of the Creator.
regardingme1 1 month ago
@regardingme1 I do not doubt that.. because Creator is bigger than any stupid star system (Orion) or any of the stories on this planet. I believe in GOD, do not get me wrong, I just have a hard time digesting everything that's been going around on this planet... even astrotheology. GOD did not stop at the ORION Nebula... and ZION/SINAI etc... is not heaven.... Creator is much much bigger than all of that... --BUT-- studying world religions is important in understanding it all..
revillusi0nz 1 month ago
@revillusi0nz I understand exactly what you are stating. I am familiar with your manner in thinking and applaud that. I too have come to understand the Creator being more than the god of this world and the one galaxy. You have brilliant mind and I respect you as one of the great thinkers on YT. If one doesn't study world religions there is no possible way to fully understand why our world has devolved. Xtianity only cares for itself and its politic-word to the wise (wink/wink)
regardingme1 1 month ago
@regardingme1 my comment is a little off by the looks of it.. but there are things bottled up inside me at the moment with all the previous videos and stuff ive been looking up... just trying to put it together.. for myself you know... i know no one out there will understand.. maybe you might but maybe not.. ive just been having a lot of personal revelations as well... and a lot of dreams... dealing with all this... dealing with religion... and astrotheology.. i got beef with both!
revillusi0nz 1 month ago
still... "christianity" is keeping people enslaved (along with all religions 888 & 666)... no matter what you say or what biased view is shown thru this vid, "they" created YOUR religion... "they've got you"... that goes for christians & luciferians... to me, they are all one in the same... there's a light and a dark to everything...
revillusi0nz 1 month ago
A lot of the Founding Fathers were Luciferian's under the mask of Christianity. It's true...
RUNZLIG811 1 month ago 3
What is the purpose of bringing this to light? What's the motive? Help me with this.
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Thanks for the excellent work. It is very important for 'We, The Zombies' to wake up to reality. This information clearly has much to do with everything is happening and has happened in this Millennium and before it. God Bless!
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ronpaul2012hope 1 month ago
Now let me see....this video seems to be as this example: 150 years ago my ancestors came here and they were Christian but today I am not so that means the country is not Christian today. LOL OH give me a break. This nation was Christian then and still is today.
Marksnotebook 1 month ago
@Marksnotebook This country has been starting in 1776 (literally that's when it switched from majority Native American Spiritualism) a majority Christian nation, but the founding principles were always enlightenment principles and the founding fathers were above all Enlightenment thinkers.
Tatarize 1 month ago
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comcastic32 1 month ago
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comcastic32 1 month ago
When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obligated to call for help of the civil power, it's a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.-- Benjamin Franklin It is UN American for the PUBLIC to Support these PRIVATE BUSINESSES! We TAX other ADDICTIONS, Surely, RELIGION is more DEADLY than Alcohol & Nicotine.TAKE the Churches Mosques, Synagogues OFF WELFARE! PAY UP!
VIVANOVACHICAGO 1 month ago
Interesting. Here's another video about the founders that covers their beliefs in ways that public schools often overlook. I hope you all find it as informative as I did. God bless!
(Just type The Founders' Dark Side into youtube--it'll be the first hit.)
reader642 1 month ago
@reader642 Actually if you read public school textbooks they often say rather overtly that the founding fathers based their stuff on Enlightenment principles. The only coverup of this is in churches and those claiming the founding fathers were Christian and founding the country on Christian values. Some were Christian, but not evangelical but many were deists, and the principles they used were Enlightenment principles.
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reader642 1 month ago
Go to wwwASKELMcom read the HISTORY in 400ad Catholics Chopped up 49 Original Books of the Bible into 66 Books then Scrambled the Books
see Fred Coulter Bible and wwwOriginalBiblecom,
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deadadelta 1 month ago
yawn....I agree with the research, but I laugh at the researchers naive defense of Christianity. Christianity = Gnosticism, and this is what all knowledgeable people understand. Those who study the inner esoteric ideas, the metaphysical theology, know this is indisputably true. If you oppose the 'enlightenment' thinking i.e. gnosticism/secular spirituality, of the founding fathers, then you are by definition a JUDAIZER, and you would be better served to return to the Hebraic tradition......
MegaJoshin 1 month ago
@MegaJoshin .....WITHOUT tagging along, with a sentimentalism, the figure of Jesus. The concept of jesus as taught by early christianity and later christianity is gnostic; this is is what is meant by the Rabbinic tale when a gentile comes up to a rabbi and asks him "what is essence of Torah", and Hillel responds, while telling him to hop on one leg "do not do unto others what is hateful to you". The gentile thinking of the period was all about the 'general' or 'panacea' type approach to God...
MegaJoshin 1 month ago
@MegaJoshin ..The Rabbis insisted that contrary to the pagan approach of seeking the absolute (one overarching principle i.e. one leg) while bypassing the means, one must concentrate on the means (the moral, i.e. do not do to others etc) in order to preserve the fidelity of the general. .
MegaJoshin 1 month ago
@MegaJoshin "the primitive and genuine doctrines" refers to the metaphysics stripped of its allegorical coverings - which is what jefferson called "scaffolding"... Chris Pinto, you are an ignorant man. You're research is very interesting, but your defense of the Christian faith is so out of place. The Christian faith, as all masons, and gnostics well know, is just another form of a perennial wisdom, which appears simultaneously the world over.
MegaJoshin 1 month ago
Only Hebraism - the Bible, differs, and, contrary to this hateful "all that is needed is faith" creed, the difference is PHILOSOPHICAL and METAPHYSICAL, which is what the ancient priesthood was all about. Learn something about the Hebrew Bible, at the esoteric, and then hopefully you will mature past this sentimental and childish need to cling to the figure of 'jesus'. Nothing irritates me more then this childishness. GOD is what you should be calling out to.
MegaJoshin 1 month ago
really though; thank god we aren't a christian nation.
TheOneAndOnly2020 1 month ago
I couldn't give a rats ass if they were christians or not. I just really don't like the fact that they hid their true faiths, I mean you'd think that'ed be something we should know before hand, oh and don't forget they're shaped with a little psychopathic masonic brainwashing "teachings"...
TheOneAndOnly2020 1 month ago
@TheOneAndOnly2020 "and don't forget they're shaped with a little psychopathic masonic brainwashing "teachings"..."
Like what, religious tolerance, scientific thinking, representative government? Those hardly seem like "brainwash" ideas.
Also, what exactly do you think we do in our Lodges?
richcapo 1 month ago
@hiawatha444 the usa will never, i mean never, be more important than GOD!
MrBeckstonian 1 month ago
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y hide ya faith stand up for JESUS the way he did for u,that's how i know they a lie,GOD didn't hide his love deny HIM on earth he will deny u in heaven
MrBeckstonian 1 month ago
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y hide ya faith stand up for JESUS the way he did for u,that's how i know they a lie,GOD didn't hide his love deny HIM on earth he will deny u in heaven
MrBeckstonian 1 month ago
y hide ya faith stand up for JESUS the way he did for u,that's how i know they a lie,GOD didn't hide his love deny HIM on earth he will deny u in heaven
MrBeckstonian 1 month ago
1st. stop showing white people as the people of the bible. DO research and you will see that's not historically accurate. 2nd. Don't make documentaries if you can't at least look up what words actually were used during biblical times. Virgin referred 2 damsel/ maiden of marriageable age, NOT someone who had not had sex. 3rd. Don't hinge all this time in the documentary on if we believe the virgin birth! 4th.Recognize his name wasn't JESUS in the first place, the Hebrew language had no J's!!!!
dezinediva 1 month ago
@dezinediva Party true JESUS in hebrew is Yesua but their ''Y'' is not how we pronouce it either in fact The J in hebrew is halfway between J and and Y. But it matters not as God and indeed Jesus speak all the laungages of men and angels so it is pure semantics and quite irrelevant!
bigcoolviking 1 month ago
@bigcoolviking Yesua is actually the way you would have written Joshua. It bears no resemblance to "Jesus". Also, most people dont know this but Iesus was a COMMON NAME before during and after the Time of Christ. His name was Yashiyah which means our savior in Hebrew. "Jesus" does not mean that at all, and if it's all just semantics then why is the name "Jesus" the only one taught in churches, printed everywhere, etc. It's not semantics, it's truth vs. false.
dezinediva 1 month ago
@bigcoolviking and where's the rest of the refuting of anyting else I said? Don't just focus on what you call semantics. Either it was his name or it wasn't and it wasnt as you just admitted it wasnt Jesus, but what about the rest of what I said?
dezinediva 1 month ago
Be happy that our constitution gives freedom of religion which also means freedom from religion.
You are able to practice any religion you choose.
So practice your religion in the way you feel best but don't impose or push your ideas outside your family. That is what true freedom is.
The Age of Reason is a great writing especially in the times it was written.
Why start a religious war. No one is stopping you from any of your beliefs. It's in the constitution. We don't need theocracy like Iran.
MrHoolits 1 month ago
Treaty of Tripoli 1797, signed by John Adams
The Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
It has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Muslims
and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Muslim nation.
It is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
MrHoolits 1 month ago
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@jfsfrnd Exactly what it sounds like: 1) I don't believe in the historicity of any religion. 2) I am a Freemason.
richcapo 1 month ago