16v VW MK1 Rabbit - Audrey - Weber Carbs - Revving

[W0mpa]

Rappapapapapappa! Soooo awesome!

[Twincam115]

i want a weber carb so bad for my nissan 1400 :(

[kickdawson]

dance rocker cover bolt, dance! :D

[dachaa86]

Bolt dancing beatwin 1-2 cylinder funny.Engine sounds great.

[AlexxSR]

RWHAMMMM RWHAMMMM RRRRWWHAAAAAAAMMMMM. Sex

[killerboogy69]

What are those fumes? fuel?

[letmesnitch]

@killerboogy69 Its the vacume created by the carbs. local air pressure drops and water turns from vapor into liquid.

[SVTIII]

in beginning watch the bolt between spark plug wires from left LOL

[tambunansumlang]

jizz in my pants

[AIRCOCHIS]

UUFFFF!!! MK1 RULES

[theyellow240z]

so sick.

[anasamla]

amazing throttle response! :)

[nightmathzombieethan]

WANT.

[amlee7]

who make the air filter and mounting bracket?

[idemsito]

tenes un tornillo de tapa de valvulas flojo que esta dando vueltas cada vez que aceleras...

[popeye802]

@idemsito Jaja! Yo tambien me fije en eso....

[s0krfreAk09]

Notice the loose screw on the upper left part of the video.

[Serg21053]

Откуда там 16v?? Один шкив распредвала. Это 8v.

[perezpablo75]

I would like to know more about your Engine, I'm not trying to copy you, bu I do want my diesel out and put an engine like this in my truk...

Thanks.

[kickdawson]

@perezpablo75 putting something like this in a truck is useless and stupid. keep the diesel, they last heaps longer.

[kclewell]

ok so, here's the deal. this motor did not meet a demise.... its in a different car now though.

[mattdesmond]

@kclewell My bad.

[TheNRG46]

Christmas present please?

[jakeob09]

hey guys i am looking in buying an older rabbit and im thinking of an 81,84 bunny can someone help me with the choice i like both of the looks of them but can anyone tell me the pros and cons of both or just help in anyway possible?

[howardgreenwood]

love how this great video turned the comments section into an "I know more than you" battle...... Its all opinion, thats all. Any way, my dads better than your dad. ;)

[mattdesmond]

@howardgreenwood Yeah, I really should have turned comments off. It's entertaining anyway.

[nightmathzombieethan]

@howardgreenwood Funny how so many turn out that way.....

[PICOLESS]

BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK­KKKK

[elgato80q]

the most beautiful sound in the world :)

[NarfBLAST]

BrumBrum - BrumBrumBrum! Sweet.

[MrViper1992]

nice sound

[lemmehaveone]

@ 0:19 Holy throttle response Batman!

[highdeserthater]

loose bolts much? lol nice setup. but the loose bolts dont look too fun.

[AlexxSR]

HRRAMMMMHRAMMMMmmm

[biiLL4bonG]

Why does the screw go u`n´down^^ xD

[Arow27]

There is No intake filter..

[kickdawson]

@Arow27 No shit, Sherlock.

[Arow27]

@kickdawson = I was just being sacastic -.-

[kickdawson]

@Arow27 lol, sure.

[Huskyboy81]

Sounds pretty good...

[OsoTheo]

damn me an my dad are putting itbs on his 9a 16v hopefully it will last..

[mOiOmUzTeCk]

ke poka madreee se vee a de jalar mas ke bien 

[DoubleM55]

Where is your intake filter ?

[mattdesmond]

@DoubleM55 There isn't one and it eventually caused the demise of the engine.

[DoubleM55]

@mattdesmond Yeah, I guessed it would happen if engine is running without filter... Nice engine, btw...

[needspeed96]

@mattdesmond Nah that damn loose bolt cause the demise! XD jk

[kclewell]

@mattdesmond actually no, that was a different engine. this intake filter bolts to the plate thats shown there.

[urbex2007]

@mattdesmond Exactly the same as how effective a K&N is. I destroyed a MAF sensor and suffered pitting in the turbo and scoring from dirt that a paper filter would have easily stopped passing through.

People just don't understand the importance of filtration. They have all these silly ideas that car makers spending millions on research will deliberately restrict the engine! False adverts don't help as sales people will seek out the gullible boy racers and fleece them. That engine sounds OK!

[dasmk2]

@urbex2007 Why did some cars come factory with ITBs then....

[consilius]

@DoubleM55 You don't need air filters when you got a sound this awesome. :D

[hopkin104]

@DoubleM55 how did the webbers cause the engine to spoil?

[lohnivw]

@DoubleM55

no need :-)

[tankybaby66]

sweet! love the lose bolt

[needspeed96]

ahaha looks like a valve cover bolt is dancing

[JohnnyGasTank]

much rather hear tuned carbs than a BOV

[chipocle13]

hey man im searching for one of this 16v head. do you know where can i buy it?

[zcarporn]

@chipocle13 - dont bother with carbs, get Individual Throttle Bodies instead. More tuning required but once its set, it wont need to be constantly jetted and so on like carbs do. Plus itb's will put out more power and economy.

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn constantly jetted? how often do you hear about bikes having to change their jets? the only time the afr on carbs should change is different altitudes. even then it shouldnt change by much. i suggest you learn a little more about carbs, especially since almost all engines were carbed before the 70's. go ask your grandparents how often they had to change the jets in their vehicles back then. guaranteed they will say never.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines -- I know carbs pretty well when it comes to cars (holley to Rochester). BUT we are not talking about those. Remember were only talkin Weber DCOE carbs here, were not talking other carbs. I dont need to learn more, you need to stay on topic and not generalize. They are not all the same! Most people know with Weber dcoe's ida/idf carbs that elevation, temps, mods, all year climates affect the carb, Some people like accurate jetting, not close to it like your reference. Sigh

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn thats a stupid reply. why put carbs on a street car if your going to stress over a little change if performance that you probably wont even notice? set the carb and be done with it. it wont matter that much on the street anyway. if you go to the track or they are on a race car i can see the point, but its stupid when people say carbs "need" to be adjusted all the time. if you worry about that you probably have bigger problems to deal with like OCD.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - Most get sidedraft carbs since its old skool. Most people know sidedraft carbs require lots of tinkering. Maintaining stoich isnt easy on those carbs. Changes are more than noticeable if you know ur car. I've worked with jenvey's, gixer itbs, and carbs. All motors i built ARE street-race setups. Some people, like me, like to diy tune, it takes time and lots of little changes to get it where YOU want. Not half ass done and left that way. Its not ocd, its shooting for the best tune!

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn most bikes have side draft carbs until the late sport bikes and again you only ever change jets when you change the air flow through the motor. and while changes can be noticeable sometimes do to climate and weather its not enough to complain about. also itbs are fuel injected.

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn i understand the do-it yourself tune but once you find a setup that is decent all around then why not stick with it. thats not half-assing it, thats making it so you can drive the vehicle daily instead of bitching its not running at its fullest and then have to change the setup and waste time instead of enjoying the vehicle. carbs don't require tuning ALL the time nor maintenance, thats fact.

[Dettengines]

oh and all carbs operate the same way metering fuel via air flow. just some style of carbs handle changes better than some. but all if in proper working order should run either way.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines Without a dyno, initial let alone a good tune isnt easy on dcoe's. Usually since they are bought used and setup for a diff car. Quoted from 4AGE DOT COM --- "For those who likes to tinker or wants optimum mixtures for a narrowly focused field, this can be much fun. Certainly, you will get attention from those not so inclined when you fiddle with carburetors on the spot and get good results. Race mechanics are often admired for such talent and gets gratification from that alone."

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - (continued) --- "But at the same time, it's certainly a chore for those who likes to me free of maintenance tasks or depend on it to commute every day. You must be frequently prepared to re-jet them or make adjustments when weather changes dramatically. For sure, those who live in areas with drastic seasonal climate changes will have to make adjustments all throughout the year, to keep it in top shape, and sometimes even just to start the engine." --- hmmmm...

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn well then i'm sorry you feel the need to have to change your settings all year round. my car with zx-11 40mm carbs starts just as good in 30 degree weather as it does it 90 degree weather without choke application. why i notice a tad difference in performance once the engine is up to temp its hardly noticeable if at all.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - Dont compare bike carbs to weber dcoe's. (which is the one's used in the vid which is the proper topic) Its not the same. If you compare Weber 45 dcoe's to say Dorletto's, setup the same, they would run different and in different ranges. We see -20 to 100deg F here, so alot more range than you. ORIGINAL POINT - If we built the same 16v with the same parts, itb's (even if smaller) would put out more power, better mpg, more control, more reliably with less tuning than carbs PERIOD

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn haha its not even winter yet and you are comparing temps? itll get -20 here too fool. i know they arent the same but operate on the same basic principle. while they may be more sensitive you still don't "need" to adjust carbs all the time you just choose to. more power with small itbs, depends on how much smaller, reliable i for one will say if you have stand alone properly wired it will be more reliable. fuel economy yes itbs are better there too, and less tuning i disagree with.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - Name callling? Way 2be adult. Some standalones have a self teach setting for initial starting, some auto tune as you drive. Less lappy tuning required after that. I use megasquirt using cheap simple sensors and my own harness. I had nothing but success. I was driving within 2 hours nearly 85% tuned from first fire. End of the week of driving it, it was done. Took 1more hour to get a winter setting. So 5 hours of tuning got me 3 full maps for all year. Less tuning indeed.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - More power from smaller itb's vs larger carbs? Its not hard to get more power n torque out of smaller itbs. Runner length has the most to do with that. If done right, extra air can be "shoved" in. To use this pulse, the intake port must be the correct length, and only occurs in a narrow RPM band. The secret is to tune the intake length to use that narrow band lower in lower rpm motors. Inner-outer Venturi/booster and choke reduce the dcoe's restrict air intake compared to itbs.

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn i said fool. not much of a name just pointing out that assuming 30 degrees is the lowest temperature where i from is foolish. assuming makes an ass out of you and me. and its hard to believe that you set the stand alone and are done considering you are all about trying to get more power out of carbs which means tinkering with them constantly. and from your first post itbs take more tuning..well according to you.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - When does the US get colder than canada? Anyways they can be harder initially if you got no experience with standalones. To most its not hard at all. The most is trying to figure out what your going to use sensor wise that would work best. Like people use other tps sensors say vs the stock bike tps, as the voltage ranges are usually not the same. DCOEs also cant guess and set themselves appropriately. They can only follow how you adjust it, not compensate. Stand alones can...

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn again depending on how much smaller. and you can also play with runner length if you have carbs.and air wont be shoved into a NA car. it can be sucked in but not shoved, pushed, or forced in. and im sure that the venturi and so on DCOE's, restrict air a tiny bit but considering they are first choice for power gains in side draft carbs i can hardly imagine its a whole lot of restriction or they wouldnt be used.

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines - Carbs can i agree, but at a cost. Further the fuel is sprayed from the combustion chamber, the less economy you get as well as your power. Technically its better in higher reving race motors where the fuel can swirl and atomize better before it hits the C. chamber.(bike carbs help prove that) Not good for a street motor at all. Power range and economy take a crap. Do me a fav, go measure a carb port vs a itb port. Bet you there is at least a 25% min. gain in port size over carbs

[zcarporn]

@Dettengines Also, think why most carb guys get a lot of power. Notice most also try upping they're rpm range too? Cause dcoe carbs specially to a shorty intake manifold will make more power on top outside of the typical street motor idle to 5800rpm. It will usually not show a good peak before 6000rpm. A good measurement of a street motor (4cyl) intake length should be around 12-15" from the center of the valve to the tb butterflies. Btw, dcoes are 1st choice for max power from a race carb only.

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn well yeah anything with a straight shot to the intake port will make more power up top thats a given. and individual throttle plates will also make anything rev faster. and considering its very difficult to get ITBS, bike carbs, or webbers to have a 15 inch runner length i dont think anyone that runs them expects to have low end power at the crack of the throttle. if you want that got to a single big throttle body and a long runner intake.

[Dettengines]

@zcarporn i know the US doesnt get as cold as canada in certain areas but where i'm from it'll hit 20 below fairly often. and still the point is, is that carbs can be daily driven just as easily as EFI. you don't "have to, need to, or always" adjust them. can you make more power by tuning them all the time of course but you can with itbs as well. but a dd is very do able with carbs.

[Lanz9506]

Very nice sound. I love that Weber Carbs!

[john1966elliott]

Wow, Super air suck in intake carbs

[italiankid1119]

wah-wah-wah-wah

[11BGHOST]

That sounds so SICK, Nice work!

[doritosjr]

Sounds really good! Nice work!

[hakosuka2]

Geeez Lovely ! That would show a honda a thing or two about rev abillity!

[scr8pdo]

nice!

[9mdma]

geht schon

[mrtom87]

without brake system:D nice sound

[eliazeidan]

this is the best in the best :)

[tflkrafty11]

SEXY......

[JamesHoving]

Nice!

[UnmuffledRyan]

its only a valve cover bolt, you guys are making out like the cams are gunna come flying out the top. pffff

[aXBOXsucks]

where is the loose bolt???

is it the one almoost to the end of the video? on the drivers side? well...on the right side of the screen?

[michaelovitch]

@aXBOXsucks

not a loose bolt

looks like the linkage of the carbs

[werhasstwen]

@michaelovitch look between the ignition plugs from zyl. 1 and 2 ;) its dancing....

[michaelovitch]

@werhasstwen

No ,sorry.

This one is not loose.

He is just happy. LoL

[menschjupp]

bolt not tightened ..

[panzarw]

theres not filter?

heh what if you would put a hood on the bonnet, will it help at high speeds?

[3star2nr]

yeah this is called an open air setup. Its very popular with race car engines.

You get good power, but there is the risk of something getting in.

What they used to do on the old F1 engine that ran open carb and on street cars with this setup is to run a small screen over each air horn

[mazmax2008]

Perfect!!

Congratulations!!

[zidane444]

nice sound and nice instal!

i want like thes carbs on my audi 80 1.8

8v ! from were you got thats carbs?

sorry for the english!!

[lyciferakos]

I saw the bolt

[Drums3052]

Rofl what a piece of shit!

Do up your bolts mate.

[HardstylerHawaii]

lol, dat bolt ahhhh lol

[ds98136]

anybody else see the bolt that holds the valve cover on come out at 0:08 sec. between cylinders #1 and #2

[kadooment95]

I totally saw it too! :S Not good

[marquis0r]

there you see the lag that a fucking injection does. long live carbs!!!!

[gieshagte]

bloc 9A, what kind engine head? i hear that need from 1.8 motor. What more performance? Sport's crankshaft's, or more something? Stock pistons?

[gieshagte]

what is your engine code? KR, ABF or ect?

[mattdesmond]

It's not mine, but it was a 9A overbored to 2.1

[brian62793]

that sounds so sick. would that give it more power than a turbo?

[mattdesmond]

Nope. But it sounds awesome.

[Rswpotenza]

that is SO SO Sick man!!! congrats sounds almost like a Super bike hehe :-D

[tylerkb12]

Webers kick so much ass. Make any car sound like a race car.  Itb's are not bad, but they're not Weber's.

[dexterrogers]

really sounds awesome, weber carbs are the bee's knees

[r3000sky]

that really is amazin sounds soooooo good

[motorbreath302]

That's badass.

[1022krinkov]

nice...