I agree with aggrofd comments and also wondering why you didn't already have a RIT team at the scene ? An why did it take so long to call for a 2nd alarm when it was established you had a working fire? Good job otherwise, glad it turned out ok.
Can someone give me some insight as to why they went back in so soon after the evacuation? They knew there was nobody inside and had declared it as a defensive attack. Why try and go offensive again after a couple of minutes?
@aggrofd (part1) If you read the file report, you'd know that they weren't smart about this call. According to the file, under Contributing Factors regarding the MAYDAY, it lists: imadequate or improper risk assessment, inadequate staffing to safely respond to a structural fire (as per NFPA 1710), breakdown of incident command system, lack of accountability, conducting a search of the 2nd floor w/o protection from hose line while active fire on 1st floor, failure to deploy backup line,
@aggrofd (part2) failure to maintain the integrity of the RIT, and failure to initiate RIT on MAYDAY, improper /inadequate ventilation as well as lack of coordination from chief officers and Command. Essentially, very poor planning and lack of communication lead to this MAYDAY.
At the start of part 2 of the video (soon after they send the crews back in) IC gives an update that said they have a two story, baloon construction building with the bulk of the fire knocked down and are just looking for hot spots. Maybe its me but, I have not seen that significant volume of dark smoke from all sides refered to as hot spots.
Then a few minutes later they tell them to get out again, crew gets lost, RIT goes in, everyone gets out and FLASHOVER.
@41 seconds, "bulk of fire knocked down" look at the smoke...
ffmark94 2 months ago
I agree with aggrofd comments and also wondering why you didn't already have a RIT team at the scene ? An why did it take so long to call for a 2nd alarm when it was established you had a working fire? Good job otherwise, glad it turned out ok.
xswordfishx1 9 months ago
Can someone give me some insight as to why they went back in so soon after the evacuation? They knew there was nobody inside and had declared it as a defensive attack. Why try and go offensive again after a couple of minutes?
aggrofd 11 months ago
@aggrofd (part1) If you read the file report, you'd know that they weren't smart about this call. According to the file, under Contributing Factors regarding the MAYDAY, it lists: imadequate or improper risk assessment, inadequate staffing to safely respond to a structural fire (as per NFPA 1710), breakdown of incident command system, lack of accountability, conducting a search of the 2nd floor w/o protection from hose line while active fire on 1st floor, failure to deploy backup line,
BTPhotography1 9 months ago
@aggrofd (part2) failure to maintain the integrity of the RIT, and failure to initiate RIT on MAYDAY, improper /inadequate ventilation as well as lack of coordination from chief officers and Command. Essentially, very poor planning and lack of communication lead to this MAYDAY.
BTPhotography1 9 months ago
At the start of part 2 of the video (soon after they send the crews back in) IC gives an update that said they have a two story, baloon construction building with the bulk of the fire knocked down and are just looking for hot spots. Maybe its me but, I have not seen that significant volume of dark smoke from all sides refered to as hot spots.
Then a few minutes later they tell them to get out again, crew gets lost, RIT goes in, everyone gets out and FLASHOVER.
aggrofd 11 months ago
Ok, well run fire scene. Good command decisions, good comms. Well done, guys.
gotgank 1 year ago