if your not a really good player this fuckin game is cheap as shit.. Its almost impossible stopping this shit as terran.. U can't even get enough tanks in time. they just run right over ur shit and produce a shit more units in 2 seconds. all the faggots that cried when sc2 first came out ruined the game.
@Guinea54 Sc2 is one of the most balanced games out there, retards will be retards i guess. I've worked myself from bronze too diamond and haven't had problem with baneling busts since silver/gold.
@Jonereator2 Its balanced if you are a complete nerd and study the game and put a shit ton of hours in it to learn every build order and strategy etc. That has to do with player skill and tactics. Doesn't mean the game is balanced on every level. When it was balanced everyone bitched that terran was too strong when the game first came out. I believe u need more skill to master or be good with some races than others.
@Guinea54 I have to disagree i've done neither and still feel it's pretty balanced. The only thing I had problems with was magic boxing mutas... But I see your point, then again they CAN'T balance by low league players I think you understand why. And trust me, it could have been much, much, MUCH worse. But honestly man, if you see a baneling bust do a heavy wall, 111 and get out a banshee and it's no problem. It's all about scouting.
I think that if you had been attacked at 3:10 to 3:30 like some Zerg players do ... you would have been DEAD ... cause you had NO units at all (in order to wall and TECH up) ... just a comment ! Don´t take it the wrong way
@HeroHamsta maybe, but once a zerg is determined to rush you over and over I don´t know if you can hold the attack having zero units ... his next attack would be MORE than just 4 zerglings (with queen and the Spawned Larva to make more lings in the hatchery) and after that he can keep coming and coming and coming ... and coming. Just a thought, maybe its counterable, I don´t really know for sure...
@theperfectspartan: a baneling bust in zvz? its not called a bust if you dont have a wall to destroy :p. but stop them with nice micro, splitting your lings (and maby banelings) as good as possible to minimize losses. tech to roaches, since they are pretty good vs banelings
baneling busts are a joke lol.....get 1 tank, or a handfull of marines......losing buildings does NOT mean it was a successful bust...the bust has to cause more damage then it cost to make, and even the first one in the video didn't do that.
@FinalBossWTMN Even if the baneling bust cost more than it destroyed, if it destroyed key buildings, that's a lot of wasted time for the opponent who has to rebuild them in order to make more units, whereas the zerg can rapidly rebuild his army and attack again. I'd say this map isn't great for a baneling bust because the bases are too far apart, but in a smaller map you have less time to rebuild key buildings and a defense before the zerg attacks again.
@FinalBossWTMN that is the stupidest comment ever. they run in and destroy all your fuckin shit, than they build more units real fast as a second wave and half ur fuckin buildings and men are gone.. its fuckin cheap
what do i do if i dont get the banashees soon enough but i do mange to stop the first bust? had few games that until i attacked the zerg had overseers and spore cannons...later also hydralisks as he saw me with banashees..... should i just practice on getting this early?
Sorry, that was bad commentary. Didnt show important scenes, talked too much around, didnt got to the point. Repeated very often yourself. Didnt showed how these hallions attacked these zerglings earlier, which was one of the most important things in the game.
That Zerg player was awful. He threw away (b)lings like crazy. If he scouted in a non-moronic way he would have dumped banelings and gotten some extra queen and/or roach hydra. Or just gave up busting and expanded, taken a third, then teched to hive. How hard is it to move an Overlord to the mineral line?
@skitzoritz The issue is time. Roaches are easily killed through Marauders and Banshees. If you Hydra through Marauders, Banshees will cloak without an OS, and even then Banshees/Marines can micro around OS and take Hyrdras. Just my thoughts though, and I'm not at all saying you're wrong. These scenarios just would need to be spot on. One could even Nydus Network a Bling Bust, but you could also bunker mineral lines too...
@AltruisticShine Well, someone playing zerg should know you need very specific counters to defeat certain combos. My point was that doing anything else would have been preferable to tossing away banelings on a near-impenetrable defense. He could have very easily researched drop tech in the time he wasted and flooded the base with slings after retreating. On scrap with no Overlord scout is inexcusable. The best strategy? No. But better than the idiocy I just witnessed.
@AltruisticShine Not to mention. He broke through, saw banshees, and didn't bother with extra queens or Scrawlers. Punishing him for his heavy wall would have been the ideal move. If he is wasting resources on static defenses, he isn't using them on other things. Punish turtling with expanding. But by far the biggest mistake was trying to bust again after the first failed. He MIGHT have been able to put up a better fight, but...TL;Dr this zerg player is a bit too poor to provide a good example.
@ttitanb not really. Thats what makes SC2 so interesting. some units are good vs. some races, other units vs other races. You have to vary your build to adapt. Of course, you could ignore the weakness and just use one.
While I don't think Baneling busts are the cleanestink of methods in ZvT, I also thinkg Banshees are even worse. Zerg has no early non-stadic AA until tier 2(Queens aren't usually "mased" unless you see the Banshee push, and you won't see it with a walled off Terran), and it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
It's a shame this doesn't work 99% of the time for me, as they always 7 pool and there is no defence against that. Unless you call losing your wall + 3-4 marines in about a second a valid defence.
the banshee rush is actually pretty pathetic, abusing the fact that zerg has no anti air units until tier 2.5 apart from a queen...which they cant afford to get unless they know banshees coming.
@marcocmh 2 queens isn't enough at 1 base? he even didn't expand and spread a creep, it was a mistake when zerg saw a banshee, he didn't make enough defending work
CHECK MY VIDEOS, I have a blitz that is a zerg vs zerg, that only takes 1minute 30 seconds and is ridiculously easy in the 2011 patch too.....check it out
This is also good against fast expo speedlings + banelings. However instead of starports, i will go for thors because most zerg players will transit to mutas eventually.
@theeonionbagel that map it a common baneling bust due to the large ramp with normly a fast deffence and not the best but the thing is ppl use SD or bunkers which can take less dammage than a lager buiding so u have a better chance on this map of jumping to baneling hope this help but sorry if it does not help
@theeonionbagel He prepared for any early pressure from zerglings, so the strong wall off still applied, despite that its a general thing to wall off none the less, the banelings just came and he reacted accordingly..
The problem with a 6 pool is anyone who knows how to attack with their workers can counter it. I normally run my workers around until i get a marine or two and then use my scvs as a defense with a few of them assigned to auto repair.
might i just say the zerg player wasn't exactly good at doing a baneling bust, i would've hit about a minute earlier with about twice the strength and your reactor was a very weak point in the wall, easy entry would've taken out worker line fast spotted star port blocked banshee and would've been GG i can see how this would work against players who aren't so good, but once you verse a skilled zerg, you are screwed :)
What I do, is handle it defensively. Keep your tanks sieged as much as possible to pick them off from a distance. Keep your bio ball AWAY from those banelings. If he chases your bio ball, keep running and let your tanks pick them off. If he goes for your tanks have your bio ball attack. Even if they get to your tanks, they are much less effective because tanks have more hp and splash damage isn't an issue. If the game is a heavy macro game, Thors make great units to tank banelings.
@steadyb23 micro ur marines and sacrifice 1 marine at a time til the banes all suicide, cause u can waste 3 banes just for 1 marine. or if u got air transport jump in when they get near
what i think the problem here will be.. what if they do a zergling rush..? if u make a refinery first then u wont have enough minerals to make marines to fend them off
Do you know how you use the arrow keys to move around and stuff, is there any way to change the arrow keys to anther key to move around because if I'm always on the arrow keys, I cant get to the control groups very fast and then im slow at everything!!
@memomanize If you double tap your control group hotkey, your camera will jump to that unit(s)... so basically if you have a couple marines on "3", and lets say your looking at your CC you can hit "3" twice and your camera will move to your marines. You really shouldn't be using your arrow keys at all and that way you can keep your hand elsewhere. If you need to look somewhere on the map you should just click that location on the minimap.
i think this strategy would be much better if you sent only 4 hellions to the zerg's base and leave the rest in your base. And also, the hellions should have gone to kill the drones, not zerglings..
im not sure if this is true but i believe you can flip buildings so they face a different position. Is it true and if it is how do you do that??? Thnx for help :P
Just wondering Jungle basin is a very strong map to use bailening busts specially because you can take down the rocks at around 6 minutes. Happened to me and i completely fail with a strong wall any ideas?
Hey, Force is this an okay build against all Zerg opponents? Just wondering because you got the hellions which are effective against those zerglings. Just wondering because I am a relatively new SC2 player and could use all the help I can get.
it is possible to lanch banelings but it is more common in 2v2 because if u use a pheonix to lift the baneling and it explodes, it will do dmg to both air and ground units =P
This is very interesting. The greatest danger for the bb strat are the early helions. But even in that case, the zerg player can win the game. Super early Helions at 4:50. If you do things right as a zerg player, you can wait for the helions with your first lings at the front door of the terran. I always do the bb and if i don't screw it up for myself, i always win the game. I think this is imbalanced, although i'm proud of my bo.
no zerg does this early b ling bust anymore. They do early expand and usually to banelings, speed lings, and muta. Very hard to deal with as terran. Even with a thor in there and good micro I still have a very hard time. Helions should do more dmg to banelings so there could be a decent counter.
@thegarbageman21 u stupid hellions have flame throwers that have been effective since sc1 which is light units such as zerglings and zealots.. im not saying hellions are in sc1 im not saying the attributes are in sc1 just the flamethrowrs from firebats were always good against workers,zealots and zerglings every unit has a different good use u troll
What if you get 6 pooled ? Well you can obviously go and scout but what if you were thinking he was 6 pooling and went scouting and by the time you would have lost too much time to make a build vs baneling bust.
The problem in this video is that the terran is already making a build (early refinery) to counter a baneling bust as if he knew it was coming.
What if there was a 6pool ? And if you try to scout a 6pool, it will be too late to make a counter baneling build.
Supply depots can be placed better to provide wall further back before getting to the 3rd producing center for your main wall. This would be for th earlier rush, 2 supply depots only needed on that middle opening.
its incredibley easy to stop banelings zerglings roaches or hydras or all... even ultras on scrap station as terran... just load all your scvs into your command center and fly it to the floating rock base use the remaining scv to scout
Thats a smart move isnt it. What if i fast tech muta? you will be trapped in the corner on 1 base all game while im getting like 100 mutas then i will crush you. No player is that retarded.
@xujploxjux yeah even if it wasnt on that base and back at the main i'd STILL be crushed... your comment has no point the idea is it gives you good defense against all land units and early 6 pools
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123231Ace 8 hours ago
force - can you show us some team monobattles stuff please?
The123karate 3 days ago
bear axe
RedSkye87 3 days ago
if your not a really good player this fuckin game is cheap as shit.. Its almost impossible stopping this shit as terran.. U can't even get enough tanks in time. they just run right over ur shit and produce a shit more units in 2 seconds. all the faggots that cried when sc2 first came out ruined the game.
Guinea54 6 days ago
@Guinea54 I don't know why but apparently everything is over-powered in SC2.
It's a hard game, you're going to lose a lot at first, just keep practicing and try not to rage to much :P - best of luck bro
robmuscroft 5 days ago
@Guinea54 Sc2 is one of the most balanced games out there, retards will be retards i guess. I've worked myself from bronze too diamond and haven't had problem with baneling busts since silver/gold.
Jonereator2 3 days ago
@Jonereator2 Its balanced if you are a complete nerd and study the game and put a shit ton of hours in it to learn every build order and strategy etc. That has to do with player skill and tactics. Doesn't mean the game is balanced on every level. When it was balanced everyone bitched that terran was too strong when the game first came out. I believe u need more skill to master or be good with some races than others.
Guinea54 3 days ago
@Guinea54 I have to disagree i've done neither and still feel it's pretty balanced. The only thing I had problems with was magic boxing mutas... But I see your point, then again they CAN'T balance by low league players I think you understand why. And trust me, it could have been much, much, MUCH worse. But honestly man, if you see a baneling bust do a heavy wall, 111 and get out a banshee and it's no problem. It's all about scouting.
Jonereator2 3 days ago
I think that if you had been attacked at 3:10 to 3:30 like some Zerg players do ... you would have been DEAD ... cause you had NO units at all (in order to wall and TECH up) ... just a comment ! Don´t take it the wrong way
RaterisimoCBA 2 weeks ago
@RaterisimoCBA 3:10 would be a Sixpool, and if the enemy goes Sixpool, ur worker can kill them..
HeroHamsta 2 weeks ago
@HeroHamsta maybe, but once a zerg is determined to rush you over and over I don´t know if you can hold the attack having zero units ... his next attack would be MORE than just 4 zerglings (with queen and the Spawned Larva to make more lings in the hatchery) and after that he can keep coming and coming and coming ... and coming. Just a thought, maybe its counterable, I don´t really know for sure...
RaterisimoCBA 1 week ago
can you say "Barracks" correctly please. its not "Bear-Axe" its more like "Bear-Rex"
unamed5555 3 weeks ago
@theperfectspartan: a baneling bust in zvz? its not called a bust if you dont have a wall to destroy :p. but stop them with nice micro, splitting your lings (and maby banelings) as good as possible to minimize losses. tech to roaches, since they are pretty good vs banelings
drakenkanon2 3 weeks ago
How do you stop a baneling bust has a zerg vs zerg?
ThePefectSpartan 3 weeks ago
baneling busts are a joke lol.....get 1 tank, or a handfull of marines......losing buildings does NOT mean it was a successful bust...the bust has to cause more damage then it cost to make, and even the first one in the video didn't do that.
FinalBossWTMN 1 month ago
@FinalBossWTMN dude, this is for EARLY GAME. You dont have tanks.
endofline98 3 weeks ago
@FinalBossWTMN Even if the baneling bust cost more than it destroyed, if it destroyed key buildings, that's a lot of wasted time for the opponent who has to rebuild them in order to make more units, whereas the zerg can rapidly rebuild his army and attack again. I'd say this map isn't great for a baneling bust because the bases are too far apart, but in a smaller map you have less time to rebuild key buildings and a defense before the zerg attacks again.
Wotanraven 1 week ago
@FinalBossWTMN that is the stupidest comment ever. they run in and destroy all your fuckin shit, than they build more units real fast as a second wave and half ur fuckin buildings and men are gone.. its fuckin cheap
Guinea54 6 days ago
what if he goes early ling than baneling
HUNT3RV 1 month ago
@HUNT3RV yea, Id like to know that too. how do you predict it?
17KILLHIM 1 month ago
@17KILLHIM after 1 or 2 tries to ling bust (usually one) and then he stops attacking
HUNT3RV 1 month ago
@17KILLHIM you see double gas and hopefully you scout a baneling nest then see if hes droneing or making attacking units
GrouchOsa 1 month ago
I like to tech up to Siege Tanks and get +1 for their attack if my opponent goes banelings. :D
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MeigsSchoonover414 1 month ago
he sounds like the captain of a plane at the start
rockotacos 1 month ago
@Danielion55 Would you like me to help you with that build??
ShootNowAskLater01 2 months ago
what do i do if i dont get the banashees soon enough but i do mange to stop the first bust? had few games that until i attacked the zerg had overseers and spore cannons...later also hydralisks as he saw me with banashees..... should i just practice on getting this early?
Danielion55 2 months ago
i thought a baneling bust was when you build hatch/spwn pool befor the tar can build there wall.
BlackenedIdol 2 months ago
@BlackenedIdol you don't have banelings before the terran has his wall
Beleshanel 2 months ago
@Beleshanel your right i was thinking of a ling bust my bad
BlackenedIdol 2 months ago
@BlackenedIdol -_-
LHGH4x0r 2 months ago
hi how do you set points where the unit follow like a path?
JustBeats808 2 months ago
@JustBeats808 shift as you click different places
RAWRRAWRitsSpensaurr 2 months ago
@JustBeats808 shift click
SorajinGaming 2 months ago
he saw that the zerglings were changing to banelings near his base. that means a banelng bust
hypotherima1 3 months ago
so hellions and banshees work well against zerg any other units from terran that are especially strong against zerg?
PublicAwkwardness 3 months ago
@PublicAwkwardness Siege tank and ghosts work good vs zerg
Randja066 3 months ago in playlist Terran 1v1 Strat
a good baneling bust comes at about 4:30 with about triple the amount of zerglings that guy had
terrible strategy
stXrjag 3 months ago
Orbital scan noob.
tulp35000 4 months ago
LOL, a six pool would have owned him :p
boejha 4 months ago 2
@boejha pssssh 6pool. sc2 fags. 4 pool, bws the way go.
gravityshift123 4 months ago
zerg was terrible player only lol~ the wall sucked btw~
TheTimBebe 4 months ago
Nice, simple and enjoyable. Thank you. Robert Lichota
rlichota1 5 months ago
can you make a stratergy guide against void rays with terran?
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haakon023 5 months ago
@haakon023 get marines, lol
flectz 5 months ago
@flectz they get owned like fk....by void rays
haakon023 5 months ago
zerg player was terrible
Cardgar 6 months ago
V me three
rabbitinahatwithacat 6 months ago
Just got Baneling bust two times a row -_- Tried to stop it and failed so now I'm looking at this vid.
VangInVeins 7 months ago
@VangInVeins same thing happened to me it pissed me off... i made a load of tanks didnt work
joewizard100 7 months ago
Sorry, that was bad commentary. Didnt show important scenes, talked too much around, didnt got to the point. Repeated very often yourself. Didnt showed how these hallions attacked these zerglings earlier, which was one of the most important things in the game.
Sarkiro 7 months ago
OMG DESTINY CLOUD FIST BUILD PUT AT THE ENTRANCE!!!!!
Nearazeroxx 7 months ago
That Zerg player was awful. He threw away (b)lings like crazy. If he scouted in a non-moronic way he would have dumped banelings and gotten some extra queen and/or roach hydra. Or just gave up busting and expanded, taken a third, then teched to hive. How hard is it to move an Overlord to the mineral line?
skitzoritz 7 months ago
@skitzoritz The issue is time. Roaches are easily killed through Marauders and Banshees. If you Hydra through Marauders, Banshees will cloak without an OS, and even then Banshees/Marines can micro around OS and take Hyrdras. Just my thoughts though, and I'm not at all saying you're wrong. These scenarios just would need to be spot on. One could even Nydus Network a Bling Bust, but you could also bunker mineral lines too...
AltruisticShine 7 months ago
@AltruisticShine Well, someone playing zerg should know you need very specific counters to defeat certain combos. My point was that doing anything else would have been preferable to tossing away banelings on a near-impenetrable defense. He could have very easily researched drop tech in the time he wasted and flooded the base with slings after retreating. On scrap with no Overlord scout is inexcusable. The best strategy? No. But better than the idiocy I just witnessed.
skitzoritz 7 months ago
@AltruisticShine Not to mention. He broke through, saw banshees, and didn't bother with extra queens or Scrawlers. Punishing him for his heavy wall would have been the ideal move. If he is wasting resources on static defenses, he isn't using them on other things. Punish turtling with expanding. But by far the biggest mistake was trying to bust again after the first failed. He MIGHT have been able to put up a better fight, but...TL;Dr this zerg player is a bit too poor to provide a good example.
skitzoritz 7 months ago
@skitzoritz he had 2 queens but yeah the evo chamber should have been up earlier.
Ninitos1 7 months ago
launching zerglings: i approve it
shinyjay100 7 months ago
i've seen literally 40 different builds for terran, is there some all inclusive one that works in general?
ttitanb 7 months ago
@ttitanb not really. Thats what makes SC2 so interesting. some units are good vs. some races, other units vs other races. You have to vary your build to adapt. Of course, you could ignore the weakness and just use one.
runepika 7 months ago
force do u still play sc2?
MrDEVILMAN15 7 months ago
While I don't think Baneling busts are the cleanestink of methods in ZvT, I also thinkg Banshees are even worse. Zerg has no early non-stadic AA until tier 2(Queens aren't usually "mased" unless you see the Banshee push, and you won't see it with a walled off Terran), and it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Fluffball176 7 months ago
It's a shame this doesn't work 99% of the time for me, as they always 7 pool and there is no defence against that. Unless you call losing your wall + 3-4 marines in about a second a valid defence.
gingermadman 7 months ago
the banshee rush is actually pretty pathetic, abusing the fact that zerg has no anti air units until tier 2.5 apart from a queen...which they cant afford to get unless they know banshees coming.
AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
thx for these videos man!
ijustwannabeadrummer 7 months ago
damn, your good, i m noob abd enjoy your videos ! keep doing it! Hello from spain!
nloke77 8 months ago
meant 2:30 :)
ripeycheetas 8 months ago
@theeonionbagel at around 3:30 there is a yellow dot in reds base. aka an scv
ripeycheetas 8 months ago
"veh-speen"
mvigno2 8 months ago
this is not really good at all....no queens for zerg ? that 's a question i want to ask...
marcocmh 8 months ago
@marcocmh 2 queens isn't enough at 1 base? he even didn't expand and spread a creep, it was a mistake when zerg saw a banshee, he didn't make enough defending work
MrLightningStyle 7 months ago
What is your friend code?
jacob1824 8 months ago
What is your friend code?
jacob1824 8 months ago
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sean78745 8 months ago
This is also good against fast expo speedlings + banelings. However instead of starports, i will go for thors because most zerg players will transit to mutas eventually.
meyt123 8 months ago
wouldnt it be smarter to lift up the buildings and just build 2 bunkers with marauders and marines who shoot the shit out of the banelings?
Helljumper1146 9 months ago
Can someone tell me where is this video as a protoss?
CharlieCanada 9 months ago
Nydus worms should be able to shoot banelings at air units.
estebenloco 10 months ago
Btw, minor issue: Barracks is pronounced Bare - ex, not bare -Axe.
majinspy 10 months ago
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AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
@majinspy No...he pronounced it correctly. Ba-Rucks or Ba-Racks
AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
hey im new so idk if this is a dumb question but i didnt see him scout so how did he know that he was up against a baneling rush?
theeonionbagel 10 months ago 29
@theeonionbagel its a replay
WMDLORD 9 months ago
@theeonionbagel 'cause it's a replay!
ValatoSify 9 months ago
@theeonionbagel zerg like baneling so set up to take it
ellomoto231 9 months ago
@theeonionbagel 2:30 you see the scv enter the zerg base on the minimap
ACJacko1 9 months ago
@theeonionbagel 5:02 terran player scanned, must have seen the baneling's nest
pumpkinghead15 8 months ago
@theeonionbagel I think the terran player might of scanned :S, im not sure D:
Gazzerwewt 8 months ago
@theeonionbagel eh some people do it all the time from paranoia.
RazzleDazzle2340 8 months ago
@theeonionbagel It is to be expected in that particular map.
72U11 8 months ago
@theeonionbagel look at 2:32 and ull see a tiny yellow dot go into reds base :)
killaownzyou 7 months ago
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svenDiva 7 months ago
it was a friend and he asked to do it...
svenDiva 7 months ago
@theeonionbagel that map it a common baneling bust due to the large ramp with normly a fast deffence and not the best but the thing is ppl use SD or bunkers which can take less dammage than a lager buiding so u have a better chance on this map of jumping to baneling hope this help but sorry if it does not help
iey0 7 months ago
@theeonionbagel He saw no expand from Zerg, so he made a bunker to be safe from any type of Zerg all-in (Roach push, Baneling Bust, etc).
Jonnywow55 7 months ago
@theeonionbagel
maybe its hes mate and they just decided so that zerg tries to baneling bust
olentattimies 7 months ago
@theeonionbagel
scratch my last post, he scouted at 3:31 (replay time)
olentattimies 7 months ago
@theeonionbagel I think they were 2 friends demonstrating
AbduCola 6 months ago
@theeonionbagel There was a scout at 2:30 or so.
nywolfpack 6 months ago
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jiasherntan 5 months ago
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@theeonionbagel he scouted at 2:43
jiasherntan 5 months ago
@theeonionbagel scan?
07PamPer07 5 months ago
@theeonionbagel
he scans the zerg base at 5:00. so he sees the baneling nest
swollenbowel 5 months ago
@theeonionbagel 1:48 scout
markLOLification 5 months ago
@theeonionbagel He prepared for any early pressure from zerglings, so the strong wall off still applied, despite that its a general thing to wall off none the less, the banelings just came and he reacted accordingly..
soccerskillz95 4 months ago
@theeonionbagel When he uses that SCAN ability he sees
guzabaza 4 months ago
@theeonionbagel
he saw that the zerg hadn't expanded when he sent his scout. That generally means a one base play baneling bust strategy.
pianopro9 3 months ago
@theeonionbagel dude there is something called a scan. It reveals the area...
hypotherima1 3 months ago
@theeonionbagel He did scout look 2:30 and to 2:46 and u see an yellow dot in zergs base np :P
theending102 2 months ago
whats your gamer picture
SuperMnbv1234 10 months ago
cant u just place 2 supply depos infront of the reactor and bunker?
xxnutrinoxx 10 months ago
The problem with a 6 pool is anyone who knows how to attack with their workers can counter it. I normally run my workers around until i get a marine or two and then use my scvs as a defense with a few of them assigned to auto repair.
nemesis408 10 months ago
whenever im playing terran on scarp station, i go planetary fortress rush =D
flippinawesome973 11 months ago
@flippinawesome973 Why? you can just lift a free base into the base between you and him. Turrent that off a bit and he'll never get in.
nemesis408 10 months ago
@nemesis408 if u go planetary fortress rush, you dont actually expect to win, but its funny as hell when you do
flippinawesome973 10 months ago
might i just say the zerg player wasn't exactly good at doing a baneling bust, i would've hit about a minute earlier with about twice the strength and your reactor was a very weak point in the wall, easy entry would've taken out worker line fast spotted star port blocked banshee and would've been GG i can see how this would work against players who aren't so good, but once you verse a skilled zerg, you are screwed :)
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qwerty24239854790234 11 months ago
How do you deal with the banglings in the open field against a marine bio ball.
steadyb23 11 months ago
@steadyb23
What I do, is handle it defensively. Keep your tanks sieged as much as possible to pick them off from a distance. Keep your bio ball AWAY from those banelings. If he chases your bio ball, keep running and let your tanks pick them off. If he goes for your tanks have your bio ball attack. Even if they get to your tanks, they are much less effective because tanks have more hp and splash damage isn't an issue. If the game is a heavy macro game, Thors make great units to tank banelings.
MackDaddyOnTheTrack 11 months ago
@steadyb23 micro ur marines and sacrifice 1 marine at a time til the banes all suicide, cause u can waste 3 banes just for 1 marine. or if u got air transport jump in when they get near
cdvo89 11 months ago
How do you deal with the banglings in the open field against a marine bio ball
steadyb23 11 months ago
warum castest du nicht auf deutsch?
mcmk94 1 year ago
when i play im terran destroys my depot and lings surround i gg T_T
jrconjux 1 year ago
When I play vs. Zerg he'll rush me with 10 lings after 2-3 min. -.-
FabioStream 1 year ago
Awesome, I just lost to baneling bust today, this helps, thanks Force!
ATGhostMode 1 year ago
what i think the problem here will be.. what if they do a zergling rush..? if u make a refinery first then u wont have enough minerals to make marines to fend them off
aykevin11 1 year ago
mate.. zerg players will almost ALWAYS do baneling bust.. may i suggest reapers to go against them.. they can kill baneling in 2 shots
aykevin11 1 year ago
3:05 Where do you live? I saw that everyday on Korhal!
Contrajoe 1 year ago
Do you know how you use the arrow keys to move around and stuff, is there any way to change the arrow keys to anther key to move around because if I'm always on the arrow keys, I cant get to the control groups very fast and then im slow at everything!!
memomanize 1 year ago
@memomanize If you double tap your control group hotkey, your camera will jump to that unit(s)... so basically if you have a couple marines on "3", and lets say your looking at your CC you can hit "3" twice and your camera will move to your marines. You really shouldn't be using your arrow keys at all and that way you can keep your hand elsewhere. If you need to look somewhere on the map you should just click that location on the minimap.
CptSteiner 1 year ago
Barracks and vespene....not barrACKs and vespiene.
budwayz 1 year ago
@budwayz You forgot the part where he's Diamond and you're not.
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TheGilmer 1 year ago
@TheGilmer Hahahaha regardless of skill or league, correct pronunciations are correct pronunciations.
budwayz 1 year ago
@budwayz Lawl.
TheGilmer 1 year ago
i think this strategy would be much better if you sent only 4 hellions to the zerg's base and leave the rest in your base. And also, the hellions should have gone to kill the drones, not zerglings..
paulinac92 1 year ago
"There gonna keep cumming at your wall" :D
snitchables 1 year ago
no offense your voice is annoying i cnt get your thick voice outta my head
aburabies2009 1 year ago
@aburabies2009 how is that not offensive? his voice is fine.
jll5ff 1 year ago
I agree, it can never be 100% expected especially if you know your opponent changes strategy frequently.
TookaWooka666 1 year ago
zerg player is f***ing hilarious
Artemes10 1 year ago
@nazworkshop he put a bunker there and it wasn t him that did it it was a replay from a player
FiloJacobbb 1 year ago
@NinjaWolf1473 thats how it was in sc1
FiloJacobbb 1 year ago
@nazworkshop he said no supply depots for a strong building get some glasses u troll
FiloJacobbb 1 year ago
i wish my zerglings could jump up into the air and attack battlecruisers
hezeek 1 year ago
hmm ever since this vid came out ppl stop doin baneling attacks....
thatdudeoverthere456 1 year ago
great video dude
martinp973 1 year ago
Hey Force, how do you defend your 2nd base from Lings n stuff like that? i have a problem with it as Terran. Thanks.
berryfafilling 1 year ago
@berryfafilling can i gave my opinion ? use marine - medivacs. (also focus-fire) or wall-in marines
tommybaterista 1 year ago
im not sure if this is true but i believe you can flip buildings so they face a different position. Is it true and if it is how do you do that??? Thnx for help :P
danielvuurman 1 year ago
Just wondering Jungle basin is a very strong map to use bailening busts specially because you can take down the rocks at around 6 minutes. Happened to me and i completely fail with a strong wall any ideas?
yesiamdaz 1 year ago
Yeah that zerg player sucked....if that Terran player would of used that build order I would of kicked his ass.
DeadMarine1980 1 year ago
Hey, Force is this an okay build against all Zerg opponents? Just wondering because you got the hellions which are effective against those zerglings. Just wondering because I am a relatively new SC2 player and could use all the help I can get.
jdemps55 1 year ago
it is possible to lanch banelings but it is more common in 2v2 because if u use a pheonix to lift the baneling and it explodes, it will do dmg to both air and ground units =P
asdasdgafgag 1 year ago
Hey Force, the reapers are good against banelings?
Vaalferatus 1 year ago
ForceSC2strategy, are you a german or something? Because this chat text at the beginning is german..
Dabidapp 1 year ago
This is very interesting. The greatest danger for the bb strat are the early helions. But even in that case, the zerg player can win the game. Super early Helions at 4:50. If you do things right as a zerg player, you can wait for the helions with your first lings at the front door of the terran. I always do the bb and if i don't screw it up for myself, i always win the game. I think this is imbalanced, although i'm proud of my bo.
Dabidapp 1 year ago
I kept on staring at the minimap when the first helions came out. The little dots maneuvering was sort of entrancing...
jamespollollama 1 year ago
baneling bust SUUUUCK'S
I find 10x better strategy 9/10 times won.
Zerglings + attack boost + speed boost.
Pwnd ^^
Aysen166 1 year ago
he could have supported his lings with hydras since he had lair, that would be good game for terran.
mcconalds 1 year ago
@mcconalds hed have far less banelings or rush considerabley later, hellion would have seen hyrdra den and all the sudden you have siege tanks set up
wiiman1099 1 year ago
no zerg does this early b ling bust anymore. They do early expand and usually to banelings, speed lings, and muta. Very hard to deal with as terran. Even with a thor in there and good micro I still have a very hard time. Helions should do more dmg to banelings so there could be a decent counter.
thegarbageman21 1 year ago
@thegarbageman21 wrong! hellions do not do extra mdg to banelings...since baneling isnt a light armor unit
startingsprinter 1 year ago
@startingsprinter try reading my comment again before saying im "wrong!"
I said helions SHOULD do extra damage to non workers
thegarbageman21 1 year ago
@thegarbageman21 u stupid hellions have flame throwers that have been effective since sc1 which is light units such as zerglings and zealots.. im not saying hellions are in sc1 im not saying the attributes are in sc1 just the flamethrowrs from firebats were always good against workers,zealots and zerglings every unit has a different good use u troll
FiloJacobbb 1 year ago
What if you get 6 pooled ? Well you can obviously go and scout but what if you were thinking he was 6 pooling and went scouting and by the time you would have lost too much time to make a build vs baneling bust.
The problem in this video is that the terran is already making a build (early refinery) to counter a baneling bust as if he knew it was coming.
What if there was a 6pool ? And if you try to scout a 6pool, it will be too late to make a counter baneling build.
gogole4 1 year ago
Supply depots can be placed better to provide wall further back before getting to the 3rd producing center for your main wall. This would be for th earlier rush, 2 supply depots only needed on that middle opening.
Phroin 1 year ago
its incredibley easy to stop banelings zerglings roaches or hydras or all... even ultras on scrap station as terran... just load all your scvs into your command center and fly it to the floating rock base use the remaining scv to scout
Scotlockify 1 year ago
@Scotlockify
Thats a smart move isnt it. What if i fast tech muta? you will be trapped in the corner on 1 base all game while im getting like 100 mutas then i will crush you. No player is that retarded.
xujploxjux 1 year ago
@xujploxjux yeah even if it wasnt on that base and back at the main i'd STILL be crushed... your comment has no point the idea is it gives you good defense against all land units and early 6 pools
Scotlockify 1 year ago
@Scotlockify Wouldn't that put you behind like alot in econemy dude ???
jordo73no 1 year ago
teach me your ways
daycentdude 1 year ago
i got 6 pooled once. then i ripped out my BEAR AXE and won
Mrmort117 1 year ago