They played in my hometown and my friends dad was backstage and he met sid in a elevator..Sid had a cigarette in his mouth and reached for a lighter and my friends dad quickly took his lighter and aimed it towards sid's cigarette..That is cool !
I think it is about the magic of time and circumstances the sex shop was a central element to the Pistols and Westwood and Jordan and the whole bunch were part of it so a fan can relate to a group of people maybe different in appearance but a lot of fun to watch and whoever heard of a sex shop with their own band anyways -- I don't care about Clash and I never liked the Ramones.
@greganwortman Even though this is a 3 year old comment I only saw it now and that is so accurate; this was of its time and you cant go back in time sadly; the Pistols encapsulated that time absolutely;)
This song was about the New York Dolls. The Sex Pistols tried to make fun of them in this song. And in reply Johnny Thunders(ex New York Dolls)wrote a song(London Boys)to make fun of the Sex Pistols. And Steve Jones and Paul Cook joined Thunders on this song, isn't that ironic. And Thunders showed the Pistols who really was the boss.
And for those who didn't know who Johnny Thunders was. Just see the Sex Pistols movie the Filth and the Fury. In that movie Steve Jones admitted that he copied everything from Johnny Thunders. And Sid Vicious was almost obsessed by Thunders. And Thunders hated the word punk, that's exactly what makes him even more punk.
"He hated the word punk and that's what makes him even more punk". SO TRUE. Mohican wearing sheep calling themselves "punks" are the reason why PUNK IS DEAD.
And I've got the "Filth and the Fury" film, Steve says also it was VERY STUPID of him to imitate Johnny, because he had his own thing going on. IMITATION and lack of ORIGINALITY are what turned punk into a uniform and a a sect with rules, and therefore KILLED IT.
And about Dee Dee Ramone, he and Thunders hated each other, Dee Dee even set Thunders clothes and guitar on fire, that's why I called Dee Dee a moron, but ofcourse I didn't know him personally, and Thunders was no saint either ofcourse. At least it's nice to have a discussion with someone who doesn't go shouting and all and knows what he is talking about.
They didn't really hate each other, I've got a couple of dvds of Dee Dee interviews and he thinks the world of Johnny Thunders...fact is they both had issues and they both were junkies and you know what it's like...shit happens. It's like Sid and Nancy, they loved each other but ended up destroying each other because of their bloody heroin addiction. Don't do hard drugs lads, they truly SUCK. It's nice indeed to talk to someone who knows his stuff!
Did you know that someone uploaded the Johnny Thundersmovie Born to Lose the Last Rock and Rollmovie on youtube. There is a interview with Dee Dee about Thunders to in that movie, maybe you already saw it but if you didn't see it, I could recommend it.
On Sid Vicious soloalbum Sid Sings there are a couple of songs that were Thundersoriginals. Born to Lose, Chinese Rocks(co written by Dee Dee Ramone, that stupid moron)and Chatterbox. Thunders was really the greatest, he was good in the New York Dolls. But he was really excellent with the Heartbreakers and solo.
I like Johh Genzale, but he wasn't the greatest. The Pistols were and are. And Dee Dee was no moron, he was a genius who wrote the best Ramones song. And btw Sid was obsessed with Dee Dee, not with Thunders. He was Thunders's friend though, they were gonna start a band called "The Living Dead".
I agree with you on most things, but I really think that Thunders was the greatest. But that's is also just a matter of taste. And Vicious was Thunders friend but he also had a bit of a obsession for him. And there was actually a band called The living Dead, there is even a bootlegrecord of them for sale regularly on ebay and the Living Dead is Thunders and some other punks, but you are right that Thunders also wanted to start a band with Vicious.
Yes there are stories going on that Thunders offered him heroin and said what are you a man or a boy, but I don't know if it's true. But one thing is for sure,Nancy was a groupie for the New York Dolls(Jerry Nolan)and after Thunders and Nolan left the New York Dolls.
They formed the Heartbreakers and went to the Uk to perform on the Anarchy tour, Nancy followed them but Thunders and Nolan get rid of her and then she hooked up with Vicious. But if that storie of Thunders and Vicious and heroin is true, I really don't know.
I know but Vicious was one of the Pistols biggest fans before he joined them. And about Thunders getting Vicious into heroin, that were just rumours, I also believe it was Nancy who got him hooked, on heroin that is because he was already doing drugs before. His mother got him into doing drugs, really pathetic if you think about it.
His mother killed him too. She confessed to it before she died herself in 1996. She shot Sid while he was asleep with a fix she knew would be lethal because "he was in such pain and he couldn't face prison again". What a horrible person.
johntgr. Punk is dead and it has been for a long time. Ever since the pistols and obviously other punk bands before the pistols ie New York Dolls, Stooges, MC5, Patti Smith. Anyway ever since then music and the meaning of music has gone down hill. There were some alright 80's punk bands like the Dead Kennedy's but they too went downhill because of commercialism and consumerism etc. Punk is Dead and it would be bloody hard to bring it back!
It went downhill because of people saying what "punk" was all about and what "punks" could or couldn't do. "Commercialism" didn't kill it, "RULES" did.
Such shitty attitude can only come from a shit brain. You don't even realize you are the problems of the world.
I cannot put this in any but a corny way, but I'm punk in heart and I'm too old to be punk. Punk lost, yes, as the individual always do. The herd always wins. MTV is proof enough.
I think Punk was ruined for people like Lydon hated stereotypes and felt the need to be different, that was their attraction to the sex shop, but soon Punk became cool and a stereotype itself, therefore lost half its meaning, Punks obviously political as well. You might think differently.. less ignorantly. Bak then I hated the slogan punks not dead because I was more of an individual "punk" not political or sick of the norm, although I do hate alot. I found individuality easier with alternative.
Hm... and is this RARE studd? NO! It's simple video with shitty quality. I've got all concert compilation of this gig in Stockholm with shitty quality like there, but i've got two songs with High DVD quality it's "Seventeen" and "New York"
Hälsningar från Sverige
131flora 2 months ago
i like rare videos, great post \m/
claveidiota 1 year ago
You can't package and market attitude like this. You have to be there when it happens. Thanx for posting these vids.
prschuster 1 year ago
from what I've heard they were at their happiest on this tour of Scandinavia
moby406 1 year ago
like they fucking knew what they were talkin about
cwallacesongs 2 years ago
2:55 xD
theexploited313 2 years ago 4
best band ever. period.
X0MissHolly0X 2 years ago
They played in my hometown and my friends dad was backstage and he met sid in a elevator..Sid had a cigarette in his mouth and reached for a lighter and my friends dad quickly took his lighter and aimed it towards sid's cigarette..That is cool !
beerNmusic 2 years ago 2
the sex pistols kick ass
Skateboard4life 2 years ago 6
Fuckings good!!
andreas271093 3 years ago
Wanna push the button baby?
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xxShelbydaisyxx17 3 years ago
holy shit, they are playing slow
DiscoStu2004 3 years ago
wow. :( this vid makes me so sad. some1 msg me!! xD I
asurfer11 3 years ago
ha ha ha ha
bollicaotokio 3 years ago
on of there best live shows!!
FuckTheNazism1 3 years ago
fuck! i was too young to catch 'em live. i'd give my left nut- oh fuck it!
danielcruzsr 3 years ago
SinglesByZip.(NET) Really great stuff! Awesome vid!
Thema36213 3 years ago
I think it is about the magic of time and circumstances the sex shop was a central element to the Pistols and Westwood and Jordan and the whole bunch were part of it so a fan can relate to a group of people maybe different in appearance but a lot of fun to watch and whoever heard of a sex shop with their own band anyways -- I don't care about Clash and I never liked the Ramones.
greganwortman 3 years ago
The ramones are awesome!
Kenny2k08 3 years ago
don't spam for the ramones HERE THIS IS A SEX PISTOLS SITE your comment is gay
greganwortman 3 years ago
I'm just saying they're awesome...
Kenny2k08 3 years ago
I'm just saying ... nevermind, see above comment ....
greganwortman 3 years ago
How can yoy mistakes The Sex Pistols for The Ramones?
Axlstar8 3 years ago
I didn't...?
Kenny2k08 3 years ago
Yes, did
Axlstar8 3 years ago
No some guy was dissing the Ramones. Didn't like that too much.
Kenny2k08 3 years ago
@greganwortman Even though this is a 3 year old comment I only saw it now and that is so accurate; this was of its time and you cant go back in time sadly; the Pistols encapsulated that time absolutely;)
ralucagymnast 11 months ago
Rough but Great
SiddenyPsychoKiller 4 years ago
!!!! Cool Video !!! I LOVE IT !!!
rotwildvideo 4 years ago
thanks for the tip, good luck with your band
johanstone 4 years ago
Dudes, dudes, dudes, stop fighting.
Phil1stalk 4 years ago
LOL! Peacemaker! :D
Youngandwilde 3 years ago
to the guy that posted that... I don´t know if I would form a rockin band with someone who´s nickname is spikedude...
johanstone 4 years ago
bu şarkıcılar süper
valdes1994 4 years ago
Great show!
ghostodarb 5 years ago
blink 182 rule !
hahahahah dieeeeeeeee
SithLord182 5 years ago
Jhonney Thunders (punk is not dead!!) But we punks can kill emo while we have the chance!!!!
elementsk8erpunk 5 years ago
This song was about the New York Dolls. The Sex Pistols tried to make fun of them in this song. And in reply Johnny Thunders(ex New York Dolls)wrote a song(London Boys)to make fun of the Sex Pistols. And Steve Jones and Paul Cook joined Thunders on this song, isn't that ironic. And Thunders showed the Pistols who really was the boss.
8754richard 5 years ago
And for those who didn't know who Johnny Thunders was. Just see the Sex Pistols movie the Filth and the Fury. In that movie Steve Jones admitted that he copied everything from Johnny Thunders. And Sid Vicious was almost obsessed by Thunders. And Thunders hated the word punk, that's exactly what makes him even more punk.
8754richard 5 years ago
"He hated the word punk and that's what makes him even more punk". SO TRUE. Mohican wearing sheep calling themselves "punks" are the reason why PUNK IS DEAD.
And I've got the "Filth and the Fury" film, Steve says also it was VERY STUPID of him to imitate Johnny, because he had his own thing going on. IMITATION and lack of ORIGINALITY are what turned punk into a uniform and a a sect with rules, and therefore KILLED IT.
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
And about Dee Dee Ramone, he and Thunders hated each other, Dee Dee even set Thunders clothes and guitar on fire, that's why I called Dee Dee a moron, but ofcourse I didn't know him personally, and Thunders was no saint either ofcourse. At least it's nice to have a discussion with someone who doesn't go shouting and all and knows what he is talking about.
8754richard 4 years ago
They didn't really hate each other, I've got a couple of dvds of Dee Dee interviews and he thinks the world of Johnny Thunders...fact is they both had issues and they both were junkies and you know what it's like...shit happens. It's like Sid and Nancy, they loved each other but ended up destroying each other because of their bloody heroin addiction. Don't do hard drugs lads, they truly SUCK. It's nice indeed to talk to someone who knows his stuff!
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
Did you know that someone uploaded the Johnny Thundersmovie Born to Lose the Last Rock and Rollmovie on youtube. There is a interview with Dee Dee about Thunders to in that movie, maybe you already saw it but if you didn't see it, I could recommend it.
8754richard 4 years ago
Thank you very much! I'm watching it now, first time I see it, and it is truly excellent!
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
On Sid Vicious soloalbum Sid Sings there are a couple of songs that were Thundersoriginals. Born to Lose, Chinese Rocks(co written by Dee Dee Ramone, that stupid moron)and Chatterbox. Thunders was really the greatest, he was good in the New York Dolls. But he was really excellent with the Heartbreakers and solo.
8754richard 5 years ago
I like Johh Genzale, but he wasn't the greatest. The Pistols were and are. And Dee Dee was no moron, he was a genius who wrote the best Ramones song. And btw Sid was obsessed with Dee Dee, not with Thunders. He was Thunders's friend though, they were gonna start a band called "The Living Dead".
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
I agree with you on most things, but I really think that Thunders was the greatest. But that's is also just a matter of taste. And Vicious was Thunders friend but he also had a bit of a obsession for him. And there was actually a band called The living Dead, there is even a bootlegrecord of them for sale regularly on ebay and the Living Dead is Thunders and some other punks, but you are right that Thunders also wanted to start a band with Vicious.
8754richard 4 years ago
I heard Thunders was who got Sid into heroin.
gypsidawn 4 years ago
Yes there are stories going on that Thunders offered him heroin and said what are you a man or a boy, but I don't know if it's true. But one thing is for sure,Nancy was a groupie for the New York Dolls(Jerry Nolan)and after Thunders and Nolan left the New York Dolls.
8754richard 4 years ago
According to John Lydon, it was Nancy who got Sid hooked. I trust Johnny's word on this.
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
They formed the Heartbreakers and went to the Uk to perform on the Anarchy tour, Nancy followed them but Thunders and Nolan get rid of her and then she hooked up with Vicious. But if that storie of Thunders and Vicious and heroin is true, I really don't know.
8754richard 4 years ago
On the Anarchy tour the Pistols still had Glen Matlock on bass though.
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
I know but Vicious was one of the Pistols biggest fans before he joined them. And about Thunders getting Vicious into heroin, that were just rumours, I also believe it was Nancy who got him hooked, on heroin that is because he was already doing drugs before. His mother got him into doing drugs, really pathetic if you think about it.
8754richard 4 years ago
But Thunders dedicated a song to Vicious after Vicious died called Sad Vacation.
8754richard 4 years ago
Love that song!
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
His mother killed him too. She confessed to it before she died herself in 1996. She shot Sid while he was asleep with a fix she knew would be lethal because "he was in such pain and he couldn't face prison again". What a horrible person.
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
hey i was just wonderin wer did u get tht info im reli reli intrested to kno
sexpistol1979 4 years ago
johntgr. Punk is dead and it has been for a long time. Ever since the pistols and obviously other punk bands before the pistols ie New York Dolls, Stooges, MC5, Patti Smith. Anyway ever since then music and the meaning of music has gone down hill. There were some alright 80's punk bands like the Dead Kennedy's but they too went downhill because of commercialism and consumerism etc. Punk is Dead and it would be bloody hard to bring it back!
08manny08 5 years ago
It went downhill because of people saying what "punk" was all about and what "punks" could or couldn't do. "Commercialism" didn't kill it, "RULES" did.
MisanthropicGen 4 years ago
Such shitty attitude can only come from a shit brain. You don't even realize you are the problems of the world.
I cannot put this in any but a corny way, but I'm punk in heart and I'm too old to be punk. Punk lost, yes, as the individual always do. The herd always wins. MTV is proof enough.
grisflyt 4 years ago
I think Punk was ruined for people like Lydon hated stereotypes and felt the need to be different, that was their attraction to the sex shop, but soon Punk became cool and a stereotype itself, therefore lost half its meaning, Punks obviously political as well. You might think differently.. less ignorantly. Bak then I hated the slogan punks not dead because I was more of an individual "punk" not political or sick of the norm, although I do hate alot. I found individuality easier with alternative.
08manny08 4 years ago
well you can blame for that shit of the punk uniform dumbasses like sid vicious and manipulating assholes like malcolm mclaren.
johanstone 4 years ago
God Saved The Sex Pistols
123pato123 5 years ago
he sure didn't do much for Sid tho
remotelywild 5 years ago
Hm... and is this RARE studd? NO! It's simple video with shitty quality. I've got all concert compilation of this gig in Stockholm with shitty quality like there, but i've got two songs with High DVD quality it's "Seventeen" and "New York"
fuckinchikenshit 5 years ago
I thought they split up prior to the scandinavian tour?
duffsmoses 5 years ago
Awesome .. Thanks.
DCXXX 5 years ago
yeah, pistols at their best! they are the most important punk act in history and many owe their existence to them...RESPECT n PUNK'S NOT DEAD!
johntgr 5 years ago
A wonderful archive discovery! Part 2 is out there somwehere...
Deadbehindthedoor 5 years ago