China's Communists Hail Party Success at 90th

[candakz]

Chinese people suffered from the communist party, but as a nation mao laid a foundation for a strong China with nuclear bombs and a very comprehensive industrial capability capable of deterring a US invasion.

[candakz]

@candakz It might not be very sophisticated, but when China wants to build a car, they can start with making the mining equipments, something that most countries have to import. You should not underestimate the power of having a complete supply chain in the time of war.

[candakz]

@candakz Also, if you learn from the Japanese, state is above its citizen and Japan was so successful because their people were willing to sacrifice for the state whereas the greed chinese people only want what is best suited for themselves.

[candakz]

@candakz I am a Chinese diaspora and have a lot of resentment againt Japan, but I still admire the Kamikaze spirit because if the Chinese were a little bit more like the Japanese, Japan would not have stood a chance against China in WWII. Communism was bad to the people, but it did good things to China otherwise no one today would be whining about a Chinese takeover because it would have been too weak to do that. Surely this to the west is a bad thing, but it is a good thing to China.

[davidcheung2010]

中國共產黨日日叫你奴隸們起來 , 叫你們把血肉為共匪築長城 ,

你們不聽話 , 把血肉去撞車子 , 跳樓 ! 真不爭氣呀 !!!

[candakz]

@davidcheung2010 神经病，比起外国占领，至少现在我们可以处死英国毒贩。我承认中­国现在比美国差很多，但是比起伊拉克，利比亚的现状，共产党更有­可能让中国从新夺回台湾，打败日本。为了祖国的强壮，中国人不要­求你有日本的神风精神也要有一点脑子好不好。共产党对中国人做了­很多的坏事，但是对中国这个国家的贡献远不是蒋介石可以比的。

[Dimitri0809]

I like the way he syas our party, uuhhh your the only party.. Communism must end in china...

[WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

Fuck you Hu Jintao

90 YEARS OF MASS-DEATH, TORTURE, PROPAGANDA, LIES AND CHRONIC HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES

NEVER FORGET TIANANMEN 1989!!!!!!

[Iseadl]

Nice propaganda...

[chinafavoritesdotcom]

Freemason is satan. Mao was the greatest enemy of Freemason. Now, Freemason Chinese get into communist leadership and rule China using capitalism.  Chinese people is suffering from capitalism and satan.

[Shane7952]

@chinafavoritesdotcom Mao did not swim 5 miles in 25 mins that is a lie. Chinese govenment said that. The chinese govnement is a lair! And China is not real communist they just claim to be no communism has been real in any country it's been in, The leaders always claim to be a God. China suffered more from their communist partty.

[CornTheChampion]

communists is satan. can satan give china good things

[chinydevil]

Kill all red communist chineses, Kill all Mao Idiot worshipers, before the red communist devils kill us ( the free democratic people in this world

[redword2007]

@chinydevil

Let me give you a piece of advice. If you want to establish yourself as a voice of democratic reason, don't call for the murder of those you disagree with.

[stureremil1942]

@ChaosDynamics But humans are social species and they must work together to achieve goals. Human behaviour is changing when circumstances change too. Communist society will be classless. Human nature will be changing in socialism.

[540384342]

外国媒体见什么就报道什么  无聊

[redword2007]

@ChaosDynamics

Your lazy invocation of "human nature" dictating things is meaningless. There is no immutable 'human nature' that transends time and history. Human relations are shaped by many things, but most importantly, our relationship to property. This changes over time and that really is something that history shows.

[redword2007]

@ChaosDynamics

Without any evidence you claim that "history has shown" that people in collectivist societies lack liberty. Apparently you are unaware that the vast majority of human experience is based in collectivist societies. In fact all human history up until about 10,000 years ago was based on hunting and gathering. Only with agricultural settlement did economic surplus, private property and class division appear for the first time.

[redword2007]

@ChaosDynamics

What you call "liberty" is in fact illusory. During times of economic growth it is true that those who live through selling their labour may have a degree of choice over which capitalist they work for, but this isn't true during a recession when this 'choice' evaporates. All capitalist societies have a 'reserve army' of labour in the form of the unemployed. This helps to keep wages low and enables the maximum exploitation of those in work.

[redword2007]

@ChaosDynamics

In capitalist society people are divided between those that live through their ownership of capital (a small minority) and those that live be selling their labour (the vast majority). The latter have no choice but to sell their labour, otherwise they will be unable to meet their basic needs such as food and shelter (the exception being where working class struggle has won a degree of social welfare).

[redword2007]

@ChaosDynamics

Violence, force, lack of liberty - you are confusing a lot of things that are in fact very different. Clear thinking is very important when trying to make sense of the world. I'll respond to your last point and hope that when reading what I have to say, you don't realise that in fact you meant something else.

[redword2007]

@ChaosDynamics

Please explain what you mean. And remember that 'force' and 'violence' are not the same things.

[akinkhoo]

gloss over the fact? even during the "great leap backward", the morality rate was still lower than india at that time. had anyone in the western media ever done a real comparison and research? of course not, those racist sensationalist wanting to make quick buck never verify their material anymore. that is why we rush blindly into the iraq war certain there is WMD... so where is the WMD? all we get is naked prisoner picture. who is glossying over the record of the media inability to tell fact?

[yourfavoritetroll9]

communism is the worst no wonder people are poor and its supposed to help make things fair

[googlewackk]

this is messed up. Communism is a terrible form of government. And Mao murdered several people. I bet the citizens are not questioning this so they dont die lol.

[ervin920]

cheers china

[sujinyan]

The voiceover is far from accurate. Certainly wasn't a "patriotic fervor" around these events. Certainly nothing like the 60th anniversary of the founding of China.

Most folks didn't seem to care about this event. For example, in the restaurant I was at, a patron requested that the station be changed in the midst of Hu Jintao's speech to a soccer match, and it was without objection.

[mrteemumilto]

@PsychoBurgundy007 Actually wars are to blame for death and misery, in normal circumstances, managerialism is the same in the west and in the 2nd world, people are patronized, babied and put to work. The difference of capitalism and socialism is that the latter tries to improve even the philosophical aspects of human freedom, the so called social violence and segregation. Capitalism works immensily well by teaching to the people that they 'can' take away people's money.

[fsxmantra]

i noticed many green-eyed monster comments haha

[likeminas]

These are fake communists. These are authoritarian disguised as communists.

Communism in its purest form, as Marx imagined it, was a stateless society of free associations between individuals.

[cool70200]

success at shifting their desperate poor into sweat shops and undercutting western producers

their kids might not want the same fate

with such a high population, they must have e a hard time with energy, food, housing, production, utilities, transportation

and russia isnt gonna sell them cheap oil

wait till their vote hungry politicians, promise their demographic groups expensive public goodies such as social security, healthcare

or other "cheap" countries try to cut into their markets

[TRYER25]

@cool70200 Totally agree. Bet they won't last another 90 years. In 10 years, all the farmers will die out, out of old age. And no one to replace them because of China's farming laws.

[fliegeroh]

Just remember, this is the party of Tiananmen Square...murdering commie butchers.  China is still the enemy number one. Don't trust them for a minute.

[angelusp777]

China is progressing and the west does not like it, dumb asses.

[lppoqql]

LOL, losers with no job are angry at China because they have shit life LOL. STOP CRYING YOU LOSERS, China is going to be strong whether you like it or not

[kjb86]

Mao killed like 60 million people according to the Chinese government.s own records

[drjacklint]

Comical China. I wish the united states still had a slave workforce....fucking hippies, ruining our plantations.

[Ebareebaveebeedee]

China could make some pretty good movies.

Too bad they are a semi-dictatorsip.

[fliegeroh]

Who speaks for the millions that were murdered? Oh that's right, they aren't mentioned anymore amid the celebrating.

[lppoqql]

@fliegeroh LOL, Like you give a fuck about Chinese people? Please, your just an Angey racist bitch using this as an excuse to insult people. what a dumbass.

[wolfgangfaust]

@vroom2000 -probably was. to hell with him, too.

[wolfgangfaust]

did ComradeObamao celebrate, too?

[yorubablk3]

Long live the Communist Party Of China!!

[mrbriscoe2001]

.China has Communists..?

[bboucharde]

China is today a very weird and contradictory country: The Beijing Communist regime owns 100% of the land, but thousands of manufacturing plants operate under the ethos, working conditions, and business practices of laissez-faire late 1800's capitalism. Every purchase of a Chinese consumer product supports a regime that we will almost certainly have to fignt in the future. Yet, for many products, 80 to 100% of the production is now sited in this vast authoritarian, polluted, sweatshop. Trouble!

[TheAntihero6212]

COMMUNISM SUCKS THE BIG ONE!!!!! KILL ALL COMMIES!!!!!!!!

[mrteemumilto]

@TheAntihero6212 So do gays, niggers, thieves, retards and freaks. Kill em all.

[mrteemumilto]

@TheAntihero6212 Disabled people, midgets, bald men (and women), people over 185 cm, under 182, people with illness, extra toes, hairy people, swetty people

Kill them all!!

[mrteemumilto]

@TheAntihero6212 the wimps, losers, people who disagree with the government because that is a mental illness, Jews, Atheists, people who as too many questions, lazy people

Kill them all!!

[LosAngelesWeedSmoker]

Some people have NO clue how bad China is mistreating it's citizens. ALL the money, goes to private investors and building huge skyscrapers while the remote villages get nothing, every and any Chinese person MUST PAY for school, and the government hires poor workers and they never get paid. Real sick if you do business with the devil, it's a human slaughter factory. China has partnered with Google, to BAN certain search items, and even THIS comment... is going thru China's super computer.

[mrteemumilto]

@LosAngelesWeedSmoker Having to pay for school is not bad treatment. It is a market policy.

Also socialism mean political equality in the shortest terms.

Not pampering social security.

[LosAngelesWeedSmoker]

@mrteemumilto It goes way deeper than that moron, let me kill you and cover it up and make Google cover up searches too. You pathetic internet troll, you are clueless.

[mrteemumilto]

@LosAngelesWeedSmoker Your insults make you and your message evil.

So now if you oppose Communist and promote free market Capitalism, what does that make free market Capitalism.

Fuck you too.

[SharkDude1]

Its a sad day for the PEOPLE in china when they continue to be enslaved by their government. But i guess those people like it. After all, they can continue SPAM our email with their Scams, and not be liable for killing our pets with their dog foood, or (you name it) crap that comes from them. Why the World buys ANYTHING from them just blows my mind.

[flydaniel]

@PsychoBurgundy007

yeah, you might have more chance to get fucked by Communism ,enjoy

[GOOJAJ]

If they are doing so well, why aren't they in Cuba?

[dizzle42008]

my shoe is more communist than china...

[telecake]

Communist party in itself is not the problem. The problem is that the whole country is being ruled by a single party with absolute power. There is no way corruption could be eradicated under such chaotic and non-transparent political structure which China has now. There's ZERO meaningful political reform despite the leaders constantly just talk about it. I understand China cannot change overnight; but at least there should be an honest will to change accompany with concrete actions.

[mrteemumilto]

@telecake I agree, they need lawful order and transparency to rid of party corruption.

But as @hujintao said in his speech, 'we must keep the party', in the sense of Leninist organisation and faith in the theory.

And the constant talk means that there is a force for change. Let's hope it isn't a free market reform.

[mitsukai89]

theres nothing communist about dictator ships..

[LegSpreader69]

@mitsukai89 Ahahahaha oh wow look at this fucking guy

[mitsukai89]

@LegSpreader69

idiot. go read a bout communism, where the power is in the workers and NOT in "leaders". China is a capitalist country not communist, just like USA. You are brainwashed by the media.

[LegSpreader69]

@mitsukai89 I have read Marx and Engels. In a perfect world, their writings make sense. But in the REAL WORLD, communism will never work, same goes for capitalism and all other ism's.

Collectivization and the abolition of private property are tenets of communism, and these two caused the most misery- along with the genocidal policies of Stalin, but let me guess: Stalin wasn't a "true" communist.

[i8hy6e3]

I think at least they do what they can do than amercan liars..

[IamYoddle]

18,000 Chinese officials have stolen over 120Billion dollars from the state own enterprises in China over several years. 18 THOUSAND, China got problems.

[zentonil]

@IamYoddle I got 18,000 problems but the yuan ain't done.

[vycaso]

I say fuck the Chinese Communist, fuck the political leaders that sold America out to the Chinese. Back in the real America, America was supposed to collapse Communisim so thier governmentcan be of freedom and Democracy but since we now have puppets running America its the other way around, the land of liberty and freedom that we call America collapsing from Communisim. Ever since we got involve with Communisim we've been having more problems. Buy American boycott Chinese made goods.

[UNIVERSITYHI]

@vycaso By American what? We don't make anything but Hummers and Stingers.

[fishbowl4202]

fuck Canada day, this is the real celebration

[luckyD1993]

@fishbowl4202 hahahaha

[vycaso]

Fuck the Chinese. Now why in the hell is the American government befriending Communist China, why is the British Prime Minister inviting Hu Jintao to Britain to bailout the Euro. You know what I think about the Chinese these days, the Chinese is a nation where nations can apply for welfare through them when their broke. That means a nation has to depend on the Chinese when they borrow money from them. Chinese look out for their own interest, give you money but wnting to keep you far in debt.

[jxsilicon9]

They should celebrate getting dumbass capitalists to fund their rise.

[redword2007]

@jxsilicon9

You are apparently unaware that it is the 'dumbass capitalists' who are in debt to the PRC. China is funding your flabby, tired and over-extended regime.

[jxsilicon9]

@redword2007

They're buying US treasuries with the money we give them through walmart and other traitors.

[redword2007]

@jxsilicon9

Who is "we"?

And do you have any evidence of these cash gifts?

[stureremil1942]

@jxsilicon9 All money comes from Third World production.

[astronato]

Kill a Commie for your Mommy.

[EndTheResistance]

Isn't all this a bit outdated? All those red flags and everything......get real, that stuff is just designed to make other people feel small. FEEL small. In reality every human is special and EXTREMELY powerful. That's why they go to all that trouble of making all those red flags. OOOHHH look at our party it has big red flags. Pff. A message to Chinese people. REVOLUTION~!

[mrteemumilto]

@EndTheResistance Communism is social science. Not red flags and feeling small.

[EndTheResistance]

@mrteemumilto Actions speak louder than words. Physical consequences are more real than underlying spiritual meaning, when it comes to governments. Communism relies on this barrage of the senses to suppress people through fear. A true system operates through love. People identify with the system becuase they love it. In China, most people go along with the system becuase they don't know any better but if they did they would want OUT of the communist system. Social science I think not!

[mrteemumilto]

@EndTheResistance Parties that claim to communist.

But why they speak of such a thing is because there is a science called communist theory. Little boy.

[mrteemumilto]

@EndTheResistance Communism wasn't created as a election program by a political party. It was created by a group of social philosophers as an offer to form a party.

[mmanouvelles]

FUCK COMUNISM

[mrteemumilto]

@mmanouvelles I'm a communist and disagree with whoever you are referring to.

[xizima]

I hate this women's fucking tone.

[mrteemumilto]

@xizima No, you hate women who don't stay at they place.

[Redfingers]

Thank you for the Communist propaganda, AP.

I'm very excited about this corrupt, self serving organization that calls itself Communist.

Hopefully, some day in the future, the Chinese people will have freedom and know of the struggles of their contemporaries who are jailed or persecuted as political prisoners.

[mrteemumilto]

@Redfingers There is uncorrupted, truth serving Communist thinking.

[Vladimir0538]

All hail our economic overlords!

[mrteemumilto]

1:13 @hujintao party thought was divorced from China's reality. We managed to correct the mistake.

They corrected it by 'Communist with Chinese characteristics', the neoliberal influx of industrialization.

Marx wrote that the communist society requires sufficiently developed means of production. So Mao and the CCP tried to industrialize China in hopes of reaching true Communism.

But their socialism isn't true. These guys are the extreme conservative left wing.

[jxsilicon9]

@mrteemumilto

Its a capitalist autocratic state.They would have collapsed but capitalists prevented any rebellion. And then they went on to fund North Korea. Oh the irony.

[mrteemumilto]

@jxsilicon9 Yes, it is Capitalism, but not because it is run by economic capitalists. China's Capitalism is symbolic capitalism, committed by the conservative left.

[mrteemumilto]

@jxsilicon9 They would have collapsed, after the food crisis etc., or because of information technology, and their influx of economic western capitalism kind of did stabilize the government. But I think the party is still in control, even though being able to use capitalist markets.

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto Marx maybe wrote that, but it was XIX century. Chairman Mao Tse-tung teach us that developing means of production is secondary thing in achieving communism. First thing is revolution in structure of society. Theory of productive forces is created by revisionists who has rebuilt capitalism and destroy socialism.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 I'm studying Pierre Bourdieu's sociological texts and he thinks that symbolic capital is used in power games against other people.

That would be the change in the structure of the society. Culture.

I don't know if anybody understands Mao nowadays in China or that do they just think some material structure, that they can impose on the people. But direct democracy would grant everybody political equality and access to the same symbolic capital - i.e. socialism.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 Access to symbolic capitalism is as much socialism as the access to economic capital, or the means of production. The means of production of cultural values, status and institutions. Everybody should be equal under socialism to change the structure of the society. True?

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto There was created new bourgeois in Communist Party. Fighting against these capitalists are very necessary. Mao has initiated Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and masses has defeated capitalist roaders like Liu Shaogi in 60.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 Surely Mao didn't mean that if developing the means of production is secondary in achieving communism, then socialism is not needed to achieve communism?

I think that the CPC are a bunch autocrats, who rule by superstitious hockus-pockus campaign with Chinese characteristics.

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto Socialism is necessary to achieving communism. There was a class struggle in socialism. Thinking only on developing of means production is failure, road to communism needs victory of revolutionaries in class struggle and destroying all bourgeois elements.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 Now that sounds like the good old Communism I have heard about. I am rethinking the definition of class struggle, because that tone is rather militaristc, while it could well be understood just as a figure of speech, to destroy their ideas, not the people who represent the bourgeois class.

Ideas can't be destroyed by violence and dictatorship.

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto Ideas are part of humans. Ideas don't exists without humans. Representatives the bourgeois class in power are very dangerous and they must be destroyed. Violence under dictatorship of proletariat are very necessary. This is real struggle. Class war.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 Violence to achieve an idea, does not have an idea behind it. Class war is the conflict, not the symbolic or physical violence.

Since ideas are part of humans, they can't be denied or their sayers hurt. They can only be influenced, as to protect the humans behind them.

Socialism is meant by Karl Marx and the whole theoretical field, to liberate the human beings from under the repression of their own culture, not to use violence on socially misled and blind humans.

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto @mrteemumilto Bourgeois use violence against revolutionists. Revolutionists must use violence against reactionaries.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 No. Their violence does not stop us from influencing them. So it is not necessary to destroy them. And the influence of socialism can change them totally, to give up the last piece of capitalist thinking. That's why socialism is the scientific truth. Revolution means change, not using violence to put other people under your will. Jesus man. Get it? The bourgeoisie violence is what socialists are criticizing, the symbolic and class violence. Their physical violence is self-defense

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto Bolsheviks, maoist and other revolutionists has used violence to achieving socialism.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 So what?

[stureremil1942]

@mrteemumilto Violence in revolutionary practice is necessary.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

Socialism is a bridge to a society based on humane values such as peace and social justice. To claim that violence is a "necessary" is a gross anti-communist distortion of reality.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 Violence is necessary in class struggle.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

Simply stating things doesn't get us very far. If you had any Marxist-Leninist education you would understand the need to provide evidence. I have been an active communist for more than 30 years and I can smell a phoney a mile away.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Maoist Thirdworldist

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 Similarly, if CCCP or CPC is violent dictatorship, that is not intended under socialism. In fact, those people can't argue that it is necessary. They are just part of the same social dogma of domination, whose one form is economic capitalism.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 To destroy humans because ideas don't exist when their sayers are dead or jailed, is not an idea. It is not an idea have on your conscious the fact that people have been denied the liberty to have capitalist ideas.

You are fucking corrupt.

[mrteemumilto]

@stureremil1942 It is too much to expect that CPC could follow the atmosphere of social criticism of the 19th century Europe.

Instead they are a dominating capitalist faction in China, who use Chinese mysticism and the myth of European socialism to lull the Chinese people.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

If you want a precedent for Chinese economic reforms, inform yourself about Lenin's New Economic Policy. But you won't do that will you? Because you are no more a communist than Barack Obama is.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 NEP was a temporary policy after civil war. In 30' Soviet Union was transform to socialist economy. China was socialist under Mao Tse-tung rule. Changing economic policy in 70' was associated with revisionists who took the power and restored capitalism.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

Capitalism has been "restored" in the PRC? You think that China was capitalist before 1949! I have to say, it isn't easy to treat you seriously when you make such fundamental errors.

Marx anticipated socialist societies emerging from the advanced industrailised nations. They didn't. They emerged from feudal societies with underdeveloped economies. Lenin understood this and the NEP was aimed at introducing limited market relations to stimulate economic growth.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 Russia and China was semifeudalist. This under-develop was associated with influence of west imperialists who have exploited this countries. After revolution in 1917 and 1949 there was a period when economy was prepared to socialist transform. In USSR and maoist China has been created socialism. Chairman Mao Tse-tung teach us that in communist party can grow bourgeois elements, who will try take the power and rebuilt capitalism. This situation was in USSR and China.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

The PRC saw the stagnation of the Soviet economy, its inability to meet the material needs of the people and how this contributed to counter-revolution. The PRC introduced limited private property rights and market principles, in the same way Lenin did, to drive economic growth. Also, they retained control of what Lenin called the "Commanding Heights" of the economy.

You can criticise Marxists all you like, but we understand history.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 Lenin has created NEP before achieving socialism. Back from socialism to capitalism is revisionist policy. You are revisionists, who admire false theory of productive forces. You should study Mao Tse-tung Though. You should visit LLCO site- this is real Marxist organisation.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

You think China was capitalist prior to 1949. Why would I treat anything that you say seriously?

Discussing politics with you is like trying to discuss aerodynamics with a chimpanzee.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 China has capitalist elements to 1949. Capitalist economy was developed some time after revolution and it was changed to socialism. Back to capitalism in 70' was a revisionist policy.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

Your role is to undemine socialist thought and action by spreading lies and misinformation. For example by arguing that violence is a "necessary" part of socialism. Fortunately your lies and distortions are so ill-informed that no one is likely to treat anything that you say seriously.

You are exposed. Time to close your account and (no doubt) start the process over again.

[stureremil1942]

@redword2007 You are revisionist and agent of imperialism.

[redword2007]

@stureremil1942

A "revisionist" and an "agent of imperialism". You are only capable of parroting meaningless slogans. Keep talking big mouth. The more you say the more obvious it becomes that you a phoney.

[loywen]

@redword2007 u talk like a agent.. agent red wood

[redword2007]

@loywen

I have been a secret agent for twenty years. All you had to do was read a few comments on You Tube to see through my disguise. My career is in tatters. Thank you and goodnight.

[JogBird]

At least they get stuff done, unlike American politicians.

[mrteemumilto]

@JogBird Getting the job done is unwanted. An honest try is as good as success. That's why their apparent success now doesn't make them better.

[jxsilicon9]

@JogBird

Well its easier to get things done when you're a dictator. Is that what the US should become?

[Smegma007]

Great! Now show us the footage where they kill teachers!

[mrteemumilto]

@Smegma007 The tyranny is not so acute. If a teacher died it is not a common policy.

The point is that right now the tyrants enjoy the faith of the dumb population. It is good to smile when they control everything with relative success, and can run the country so well.

[mrteemumilto]

@Smegma007 Good managers.