Polliticinas and police have something in common- both ar emoloyies of the state and both are being paid by tax payers money-when a citizen records a cop- they are simply monitoring their employees and providing oversight.
Reminds me of the guy who got his phone smashed by police officers for recording them them, but he snuck out his memory card before the officers destroyed the phone.
that's retarded what the cops are doing, I want to be a cop & even I think that's retarded, If they don't want to be on film sue him so he will delete the film or just block out their face like on True TV
*State appealing to get guy who records the cops 75* .... Meanwhile......... *Someone who brutally beats and rapes a woman gets average time of 5-15 years.* What an awesome and structured system....
My country has a similar but totally different law... Under the Official Secrecy Act, anyone can record anything they want (with the exception of sensitive and private locations) with no consequences... but if you publish the recording without permission, your ass is cooked...
-Hey there newguy. I'm Jeff, here for raping 5 women, and this is Jack, he beat to a pulp 3 guys because they were black and he's a white nationalist. What did you do ?
-Huh... I recorded the police checking my driver's license ?
Always remember there is no expectation of privacy when you are in a public place; that goes for cops (I was one until I retired after nearly 25 years) and citizens. I nearly always recorded traffic stops because who wants to be accused of doing something wrong? I don't understand why any hearing was without recording devices or stenographer when that guy went to court and understand why he was paranoid and 75 years would be absolutely a travesty.
@kokocipher Where have you been? Let me introduce you to S1867. Indefinite detention of US citizens by the military without trial and without having to produce any evidence. I'm not kidding. It has passed already. Obama has threatened to veto but that is a joke. We are all in grave trouble.
Constructive criticism - I like your videos, but I preferred your old banner image. This whole "subscribe, like, fav" in the banner image is just not in good taste. Let your banner image show who you are, and the likes and favs will follow. Just my advice.
ACORN sting was proven as a false; it was edited and made to look like they were supporting sex slaves.
Police already violate/ignore laws already, as long as it suites their purpose. If I record a cop beating someone who isn't resisting, a innocent bystander or what have you; they are going to deny it in court under oath if it suites their purpose or the purpose of the state.
Record them anyway; fuck the police. They aren't there to "sever and protect" the citizens anyway.
Your videos suck. How come you never respond to people who call you out? Too many of them? LMFAO
Why do you even do this to yourself? I'm not sure how anyone with any self respect could stand being the butt of so many "biggest tool on the internet" jokes.
You stupid pice o garbage. You have no respect whatsoever and will never regains any on the internets community. Months ago you made a video criticizing the "how economy works" of much much more intelligent and capable individual. Now everyone, everywhere are saying basically what that video stands for. You should just go, you are finished you have no insights of "how the world works" you are a pathetic and poor rich balls suckes. Its pathetic...
Well, HTWW...I have to admit, this is the very FIRST video you've ever made, in which I find myself in 100% agreement with you. I am, in fact, astonished: I half-expected you to come out and say "Well, of COURSE the police are completely justified in slamming this guy with every law on the books for unauthorized videoing of their work." I have to admit, I'm impressed. I'm not quite ready to subscribe to you YET, but allow me to congratulate you for taking the precisely correct view, here.
Spurious argument: the right to film police action is not synonymous with the right to film private citizenship behavior. Hence, how can there be a link between corrupt politicians and the right to film police? You should refrain from acting as an expert, soap-boxing every issue you read about - your videos are best when they have an underlying theme of economics which ensures they have substance. This video was nothing more than puerile ranting :(
how about the police! they feel guilt by essentially taking a mans life away for recording them. such callous, arrogant sons of biscuits have no right to don such a uniform, they should get rocked by the righteous hand of Anderson Silva or vicious elbow of Jon Jones! then get anal raped by lady gaga
wow. yeah some women might get 8 years for manslaughter but this is threatened with 75! i agree completely with everything, but you try to justify this with lawyer rhetoric, finding flaws in the credibility and legality of the officer's actions; how about the stupid judge just says, no, this isnt a fair sentence for this you pay a $30 dollar fine, stupid system undermines the spirit of the law and just focuses on excessive regulation of the rules
Looks like Alex Jones is not so "crazy" afterall, huh? It's still true that the biggest crooks seek govt. positions so they can "legalize" their crimes, I guess we aren't so different from our historic past as we would all like to believe.
@Supermassively I fail to see your argument. Why call him a "nutbag", why not "booger face" or "poo poo head"? Maybe "fuc#ing nutbag" is as far as you have come since kindergarden?
This is the verdict: light has come into the world but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light and will notcome into the light for fear that their deeds would be exposed.
@KEvron8or Sweden Demographics Profile 2011 Population 9,088,728 (July 2011 est.). Jul 21 2011 The current U.S.A. population is over 311 million people (311,800,000 in mid-2011) So Statistically your point is?
Sorry my "DUH!" meter pegged at 10 times higher than usual. So I had to respond with, well DUH!
@KEvron8or I agree it's ridiculous. Prison time should be for rehabilitation, not for someone to sit and waste their life. You can't be rehabilitated if you die behind bars.
Outrageous... Police are out in then open and have no reasonable expectation to privacy, especially on duty.. ... rapist, and murderers could get out before this guy? Yeah sounds like corruption to me
If they apply the Bill of Rights to the states, the backwater laws with expensive sentences will only increase, meaning the things can get much worse. They say it is the number one reason to stay away from Ron Paul, as he is allegedly going for it.
The worst aspect with extensive jail time is that most prisoners are poor and the whole prison system is funded by the poor and the middle class. Listening to Gingrich and Co., you can guess the prosecuting side is the "hard-working [rich] Americans".
Police like to tell us that they are public servants. Well if they are serving the public, then the public certainly has the right to record them while they are on the public's dime.
I've been on the wrong side of such idiocy. Suffering harrassment from a deranged neighbor when I lived in Maryland, I brought the tapes I'd made of the foulness that had been screamed at me and my kids on a public street and was told that I could not produce them or I would be subject to prosecution and imprisonment.
Of course, no such prohibition exists on government in Maryland.
Justice is blind. Government justice is blind, stupid and malicious.
@FletchforFreedom I can't help but wonder, Fletch...if you'd gone ahead and TOLD the neighbor that he was being videotaped, what might the result have been? To my thinking, once you provide public notice, you're within your rights to continue videotaping. If the neighbor persisted in his deranged behavior, it would've been his own fault the event(s) would've been caught on film, whereas someone with common sense would've ceased the behavior. Yes?
@TheMercilessEye Ironically, I could have filmed her as much as I liked, but I couldn't audio record unless I had her consent either on the recording itself or in writing. Sadly, this was several years ago and the video recorder I had was a bulky VHS model that I couldn't really carry to and from the car every day.
The neighbor persisted (and likely would have anyway) to the point that she was found guilty on three occassions (but the best evidence never saw the light of day).
He should go to jail, and anyone who defends him should be taken outside and executed in front of their families. Also every human should be barcoded and those who have a low IQ should be taken to a special hospital and have their organs removed for the far superior and wealthy, Also Common people should not be allowed to Vote and women should be forced to stay at home and look after babies or be executed as well as anyone who disagrees with the Government, Government Is God.
@EBOWARRIOR lol well it is true if u cant get people to talk to you with good comments might as well post a stupid one for people to argue with you to make u feel important.
@SinOfDisaster Actually that was not my point at all, the fact someone replied to me is neither here nor there. My point was to show the idiocracy of some people and their very very close minded opinions, The Governments of the world are so far beyond being fucked its now become only a matter of time before it all crashes down, and those who do not believe in this should open a history book and read what actually happened to The Roman Empire, Thanks for responding but i wasnt trying to annoy you
@EBOWARRIOR oh no you didnt annoy me. and yes i do know what happens in the roman empire since i am trying to be a history major in college. what you say is true that is what this government is gonna end going back too its so fun going back into time reading everything that has been recorded love always making fun of Christianity just cause its so hypocritical. remember everyone you can murder abuse and rape anyone and still get into heaven with this nice little ticket to heaven the church sells
There's always been a tacit agreement of duplicity between society and police officers. The nature of the law is... absurd, one can't possibly even know all the laws. In Wyoming you could be fined $750 for not closing a fence. Police officers are mostly hunting for people doing things which they consider unethical. The problem is that if you record anyone for 10 minutes, they're sure to break some law if you look hard enough, that includes the police.
Police should never fever being taped if they are doing their job right. Now, all people are or should be considered innocent until proven guilty and therefore one may wish to consider publishing a tape before publishing said tape. I real concern is the tape from the start of the activity or just a film clip of the last moments of the activity. Clearly these need to be addressed in a court of law.
You know what they should do, which they'll never do? Have police men take an oath that if they abuse their power, they get put in jail for life. Hell, I never support the death penalty, but since they're signing off on it, they get capital punishment. I know that it would NEVER happen, but in a world that is as fucked up as this, we could hope for a miracle, eh?
@LobsterPotsticker Ok I stand corrected. But this video nothing to do with Ron Paul and its great if you like him that's good for you. But don't go on videos saying crap about voting its not your place to go and say things like that I mean I'd just as stupid if I said "Hey people vote for Rick Perry" but personally I hate Rick Perry and Ron Paul and Herman Cain and I don't like Obama that much either.
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@onlym314 For the love of all that is holy!!! Everytime one of you Ron Paul supporters opens your mouth I die a little inside! You're all just like Obama supporters!!! You think that he's gonna change the world into some magical happy place! Frankly, the more you guys talk about him the less likely I am to vote for that old fool.
Such laws are totally anathema to a truly F R E E society. They exist only because police want to be free of scrutiny. Pretty scary, considering the powers they have. If they were an essentially honest bunch, they would WELCOME public scrutiny such as this to weed out the bad apples among them.
A video camera may be the only weapon a citizen has for self protection in instances of police corruption/brutality. All such laws must be stricken from the books.
@igottogether, I'm sure there a lot of great folks and some parts of Illinois are ok, but the state government doesn't not honor my 2nd amendment right as I travel through that state. I'm sorry for the offense, but the law in Illinois is not Constitutional in regards to the right to keep and bear arms.
It's unbelievable the fact that they would even consider putting this guy behind bars for the rest of his life for doing something this puny, especially in comparison to the crap that other people do and serve less time for. Now I'm sure a lot of us might be split on whether videotaping police officers without their consent should constitute as a criminal act or not, but if you think that 75 years is the right punishment, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Anything and everything that can aid in a citizen's legal defense should be allowed. IMO police don't have the same rights as regular citizens because they are the long flabby (Simpsons) arm of the law. They already get to search your property, carry guns basically everywhere, use deadly force, et cetera; if someone wants to make sure they are doing so justifiably and responsibly by video/audio recording them, he should not be denied this.
My second regret is that nothing will come from this because this has happened and will continue to happen many times over and it usually always starts with these alleged traffic violations. This supports my first regret, we are throwing away the opportunity to start a snowball of change by not saying "LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS CORRUPT! WE HAVE LET IT HAPPEN! IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN IF NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW! THE CORRUPTION IS HERE AND THIS IS ONLY THE SIGN OF IT SPREADING!"
Thanks a lot for this video. I have 2 regrets about this topic. For one, this is MONUMENTAL corruption, literally, in the symbolic sense; if there is any question about whether our political system is corrupt or has ever been corrupt you can point to the fact of this case. It is self-evident that these consequences are grossly if not inversely disproportionate to the burden this action places on on society, in fact, this type of law enforcement IS the burden on society.
That's why I am still subscribe to HTWW and unsubscribe to StevenCrowder . At least, he actually reports the news with the most balance results. Police Officers are NOT above the law, just like Corporate shills and politicians. However, they will never change their ways, instead they will to change the laws that puts hard-working, Liberty-loving demonstrating patriots to jail while making themselves fat out of taxpayer money.
I saw this story a few months back and I'm still disgusted about it. Our first Amendment rights are being thrown out the window these days. Here's the thing. If you record a cops doing something GOOD such as rescuing a baby or playing with their K-9 Unit dogs they don't care about being a camera. The second you record them doing something wrong, they want you behind bars. It's not just politicians. It's the police force themselves.
Does anyone know if recordings can be used as evidence?
For example, if I record the police, and catch them doing something illegal (planting drugs, wrongful searches etc.) am I allowed to use that as evidence, or does it fall under the laws that state if evidence is obtained illegally that it's inadmissible? or does that only apply to cops who obtain evidence illegally?
That man would deserve a life sentence, he was stupid and shouldn't have been filming police in the first place. Atheists are ruining are nation by not respecting police.
@famdiaz04 I know I am correct on this because all the other side presents is insults. Anyone who thinks the man who was filming police doesn't belong in jail is a conspiracy theorist whack job.
@HellsAtriumVEVO Nice trolling mate. And if you aren't trolling, then you deserve the coming police state. I hope you don't honestly think that someone recording cops deserves a longer sentence than a murderer or a rapist.
Even if all the charges are totally dropped the damage has been done.
I am sure this guy has spent thousands of dollars on legal fees and whatnot, as well as lost thousands in time and wasted effort. Plus the prosecutors have spent tens of thousands of tax payer dollars.
I am a Libertarian so I don't like very many laws, but one federal law that I would like to see passed is that public officials can be filmed and recorded while on the job.
as wrong as this is...its not the fault of the people who dont inform their representatives of how they feel...its the fault of the people involved in the system pushing laws threw before the public has time to review them or even learn of their existance before passing into law...if we dont know a law is about to be passed before it is passed...how do we inform our representatives of how we feel about them
@bklee83 Just being my usual smart-ass self, I mean it actually IS our fault because WE let them get away with what they do. If you own a business & you get it to where its running without your daily oversight, you just cant go & goof off, someone WILL take advantage of the situation to steal, slack off, screw up... WE put these SCUMBAGS in office & WE have to watch over them & take quick, decisive & legal action to keep them in line.
That's the reason WE can legally abolish Govt at OUR will.
can someone tell me if this guy is left or right leaning and possibly if he is liberal, i was pretty sure he was pretty far to the right but i just wanted to make sure
@davethehostage yea no i definitely understand that but looking at more of his videos, especially his one talking about how we're not all equal i'd say this guy has got it all wrong, he doesn't seem to at all understand the extremely important concept (when pertaining to politics especially) that we are all products of our environment (for more on this look up Jacque Fresco). but this guy just seems to think that some people are better than others which you'll find isn't true
My family is going through the court systems in Illinois right now. It is one of the most bloated, inexcusable pieces of crap bodies of legality I've ever seen. Living here in IL. is alright, except for the politics and legal system. They're one of the worst in the country.
Eavesdropping is secretly listening to private conversations (without their consent).
Wiretapping is eavesdropping so and so is hacking into someone's computer. Openly video-taping the activities of police, government officials and even private citizens is not eavesdropping and everyone knows it. It would be hard to argue that simply taping the police's public actions would constitutent eavesdropping.
@PerpetualTiredness hey dipshit, its the county thats going to process them. and who are you to bust the balls of our officers out there. one day theres going to come a time you wish they were out there being monitored and were actually trying to catch the guy who hurt you.
That's completely intolerable, even if it was dismissed, that they can even think they have that kind of authority & that kind of immunity from prosecution or surveillance. Idiots keep giving government the power to pick & choose who's subject to which laws and we will be in something similar to the worst forms of horrible murderous abusive totalitarianism you've ever heard of. All it takes is the people allowing it.
Polliticinas and police have something in common- both ar emoloyies of the state and both are being paid by tax payers money-when a citizen records a cop- they are simply monitoring their employees and providing oversight.
dsspike51 3 weeks ago
Reminds me of the guy who got his phone smashed by police officers for recording them them, but he snuck out his memory card before the officers destroyed the phone.
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that's retarded what the cops are doing, I want to be a cop & even I think that's retarded, If they don't want to be on film sue him so he will delete the film or just block out their face like on True TV
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Welcome to Soviet Russia... Wait. That would be an insult to Soviet Russia.
LoveSteroid 1 month ago
*State appealing to get guy who records the cops 75* .... Meanwhile......... *Someone who brutally beats and rapes a woman gets average time of 5-15 years.* What an awesome and structured system....
KoalKottentail 1 month ago
3:00 "It is NOVEMBER 3rd 2011" ORLY?!
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@Lee D. ....RNC cannidates have been voted off "te island"
please do a vid of (or simply reply) as to WHO IS THE BEST NOMINEE FOR THE ELECTION RACE....
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ForLawAndProphets 1 month ago
He is right.. Illinois is totally corrupt. I would know I used to live there.
robotswithtophats 2 months ago
How many clips have you used....seriously...
hottse 2 months ago
My country has a similar but totally different law... Under the Official Secrecy Act, anyone can record anything they want (with the exception of sensitive and private locations) with no consequences... but if you publish the recording without permission, your ass is cooked...
FD87 2 months ago
I'm from Illinois, you got that pretty much spot on with corruption, though understated.
cooldaddy1234567 2 months ago
-Hey there newguy. I'm Jeff, here for raping 5 women, and this is Jack, he beat to a pulp 3 guys because they were black and he's a white nationalist. What did you do ?
-Huh... I recorded the police checking my driver's license ?
gilless429 2 months ago
Always remember there is no expectation of privacy when you are in a public place; that goes for cops (I was one until I retired after nearly 25 years) and citizens. I nearly always recorded traffic stops because who wants to be accused of doing something wrong? I don't understand why any hearing was without recording devices or stenographer when that guy went to court and understand why he was paranoid and 75 years would be absolutely a travesty.
crankyspants 2 months ago
At least we still have jury trials in this country-the last stage of defense against tyranny.
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@kokocipher Where have you been? Let me introduce you to S1867. Indefinite detention of US citizens by the military without trial and without having to produce any evidence. I'm not kidding. It has passed already. Obama has threatened to veto but that is a joke. We are all in grave trouble.
PatriotReport 2 months ago
@PatriotReport, it's fucking scary and depressing.
AnotherAgnostic 2 months ago
God damn it, what has this country become. Oh that's right, China.
kokocipher 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Constructive criticism - I like your videos, but I preferred your old banner image. This whole "subscribe, like, fav" in the banner image is just not in good taste. Let your banner image show who you are, and the likes and favs will follow. Just my advice.
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ACORN sting was proven as a false; it was edited and made to look like they were supporting sex slaves.
Police already violate/ignore laws already, as long as it suites their purpose. If I record a cop beating someone who isn't resisting, a innocent bystander or what have you; they are going to deny it in court under oath if it suites their purpose or the purpose of the state.
Record them anyway; fuck the police. They aren't there to "sever and protect" the citizens anyway.
gdog066 2 months ago
what's up with all the haters posting? why are you guys watching Lee's videos in the first place?
nsinkov 2 months ago
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Your videos suck. How come you never respond to people who call you out? Too many of them? LMFAO
Why do you even do this to yourself? I'm not sure how anyone with any self respect could stand being the butt of so many "biggest tool on the internet" jokes.
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You stupid pice o garbage. You have no respect whatsoever and will never regains any on the internets community. Months ago you made a video criticizing the "how economy works" of much much more intelligent and capable individual. Now everyone, everywhere are saying basically what that video stands for. You should just go, you are finished you have no insights of "how the world works" you are a pathetic and poor rich balls suckes. Its pathetic...
sdfsdfs13 2 months ago
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I trust the irony of what you have said escapes you.
BeepingMetal 2 months ago
@sdfsdfs13 stop talking to yourself
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
great video HowTheWorldWorks...! completely agree
jsaf7 2 months ago
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TerriblePizza 2 months ago
Were living in end times man!
gmsxtranormal 2 months ago
If police can freely pepper spray crowds without discretion, then anything is possible. We live in some magical times.
vrok137 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Thanks for the info.
damienblauwald 2 months ago
Well, HTWW...I have to admit, this is the very FIRST video you've ever made, in which I find myself in 100% agreement with you. I am, in fact, astonished: I half-expected you to come out and say "Well, of COURSE the police are completely justified in slamming this guy with every law on the books for unauthorized videoing of their work." I have to admit, I'm impressed. I'm not quite ready to subscribe to you YET, but allow me to congratulate you for taking the precisely correct view, here.
TheMercilessEye 2 months ago
I read the title, said "WHAT THE FUCK" And then watched the video. Then I was all like "WHAT THE FUCK"
WillBrendon 2 months ago
Lee stop being melodramatic ever case like this never has a guilty verdict.
rockinandout 2 months ago
This is one of the few times I actually agree with Howtheworldworks. Good job.
ALEXplus3 2 months ago
"So what are you in for?"
"Recording an insecure police officer."
T0PSLAYER117 2 months ago 49
See what happens when you depend on the government?
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gmsxtranormal 2 months ago
75 years? what? Why don't they just execute him. Its the same thing.
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MultiAhka 2 months ago
Spurious argument: the right to film police action is not synonymous with the right to film private citizenship behavior. Hence, how can there be a link between corrupt politicians and the right to film police? You should refrain from acting as an expert, soap-boxing every issue you read about - your videos are best when they have an underlying theme of economics which ensures they have substance. This video was nothing more than puerile ranting :(
CHUCKALUCKALUCKA 2 months ago
I live in Chicago.... o_o
speedzonefilms 2 months ago
how about the police! they feel guilt by essentially taking a mans life away for recording them. such callous, arrogant sons of biscuits have no right to don such a uniform, they should get rocked by the righteous hand of Anderson Silva or vicious elbow of Jon Jones! then get anal raped by lady gaga
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wow. yeah some women might get 8 years for manslaughter but this is threatened with 75! i agree completely with everything, but you try to justify this with lawyer rhetoric, finding flaws in the credibility and legality of the officer's actions; how about the stupid judge just says, no, this isnt a fair sentence for this you pay a $30 dollar fine, stupid system undermines the spirit of the law and just focuses on excessive regulation of the rules
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Looks like Alex Jones is not so "crazy" afterall, huh? It's still true that the biggest crooks seek govt. positions so they can "legalize" their crimes, I guess we aren't so different from our historic past as we would all like to believe.
dlucas90 2 months ago 5
@dlucas90 No, he's still a fucking nutbag.
Supermassively 2 months ago
@Supermassively I fail to see your argument. Why call him a "nutbag", why not "booger face" or "poo poo head"? Maybe "fuc#ing nutbag" is as far as you have come since kindergarden?
dlucas90 2 months ago
@dlucas90 ... because he's a nutbag, or a nutcase, or a whackjob, or a lunatic, or just plain crazy. Take your pick. I speak only truth. Grow up.
Supermassively 2 months ago
@Supermassively Awww, sounds like someone is grumpy. Time for a nap.
dlucas90 2 months ago
@dlucas90 No alex jones is still crazy. Just because he may have been right about one thing doesn't make him not crazy.
deathguitarist12 2 months ago
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This is the verdict: light has come into the world but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light and will notcome into the light for fear that their deeds would be exposed.
wmassiah 2 months ago
good god.
MouthOfTheUnknown 2 months ago
I heard the police didn't like being recorded...but damn
StuffedAnimalAdvisor 2 months ago
in soviet russia police records you
numbcore 2 months ago
@numbcore no, they don't, I vouch from experience. No evidence of beatings and bribes is better.
aivanther 2 months ago
@numbcore haha, great family guy episode.
colemanhill 2 months ago
North "America"? Say herro to North Korea!!
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Rarae192 2 months ago
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In Sweden you get 10 years for double murder
F3udF1st 2 months ago 13
@F3udF1st and you get xbox live in the prison. hot right?
clap4vids 2 months ago
@F3udF1st True, but we also have lower criminals that go back to a life in criminality then USA even though you spend less time in jail.
TheRedLocker 2 months ago
@F3udF1st
in the u.s., you get 10 times sweden's murder rate.
KEvron
KEvron8or 2 months ago 14
@KEvron8or Sweden Demographics Profile 2011 Population 9,088,728 (July 2011 est.). Jul 21 2011 The current U.S.A. population is over 311 million people (311,800,000 in mid-2011) So Statistically your point is?
Sorry my "DUH!" meter pegged at 10 times higher than usual. So I had to respond with, well DUH!
Synapticsnap 2 months ago
@Synapticsnap
"Statistically"
lol!
KEvron
KEvron8or 2 months ago
@KEvron8or With all the Muslims on your turf don't expect that to stay that way.
greesemonkeyarmy 2 months ago
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great, another idiot.
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@KEvron8or I agree it's ridiculous. Prison time should be for rehabilitation, not for someone to sit and waste their life. You can't be rehabilitated if you die behind bars.
Z1mb0bw4y 1 month ago
@Z1mb0bw4y government gets money for each inmate. its a profit scam.
y0utUBeH8r 1 month ago
@y0utUBeH8r Are you stupid? Who do you think pays for the prisons?
Z1mb0bw4y 1 month ago
@Z1mb0bw4y we do dipshit, taxpayers.
y0utUBeH8r 1 month ago
No real shock here. Afterall, we are talking about Illinois, no?
bobbytiger 2 months ago
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What the hell, a 14 year old boy with a 5 o'clock?
CaptainRano 2 months ago
Outrageous... Police are out in then open and have no reasonable expectation to privacy, especially on duty.. ... rapist, and murderers could get out before this guy? Yeah sounds like corruption to me
carlindelco 2 months ago
Before I played the video, I thought you were going to talk about China or Russia. But ILLINOIS!! no way.
elfil76 2 months ago
If they apply the Bill of Rights to the states, the backwater laws with expensive sentences will only increase, meaning the things can get much worse. They say it is the number one reason to stay away from Ron Paul, as he is allegedly going for it.
The worst aspect with extensive jail time is that most prisoners are poor and the whole prison system is funded by the poor and the middle class. Listening to Gingrich and Co., you can guess the prosecuting side is the "hard-working [rich] Americans".
fingrid 2 months ago
ludicrous that you cant record an on duty police officer.
golftdibrad 2 months ago
Police like to tell us that they are public servants. Well if they are serving the public, then the public certainly has the right to record them while they are on the public's dime.
carcabe 2 months ago
Of course Illinois is corrupt. Their government is overflowing with Chicago Machine Democrats.
jtkirkfan2002 2 months ago
I've been on the wrong side of such idiocy. Suffering harrassment from a deranged neighbor when I lived in Maryland, I brought the tapes I'd made of the foulness that had been screamed at me and my kids on a public street and was told that I could not produce them or I would be subject to prosecution and imprisonment.
Of course, no such prohibition exists on government in Maryland.
Justice is blind. Government justice is blind, stupid and malicious.
FletchforFreedom 2 months ago
@FletchforFreedom I can't help but wonder, Fletch...if you'd gone ahead and TOLD the neighbor that he was being videotaped, what might the result have been? To my thinking, once you provide public notice, you're within your rights to continue videotaping. If the neighbor persisted in his deranged behavior, it would've been his own fault the event(s) would've been caught on film, whereas someone with common sense would've ceased the behavior. Yes?
TheMercilessEye 2 months ago
@TheMercilessEye Ironically, I could have filmed her as much as I liked, but I couldn't audio record unless I had her consent either on the recording itself or in writing. Sadly, this was several years ago and the video recorder I had was a bulky VHS model that I couldn't really carry to and from the car every day.
The neighbor persisted (and likely would have anyway) to the point that she was found guilty on three occassions (but the best evidence never saw the light of day).
FletchforFreedom 2 months ago
@FletchforFreedom Oh well...at least some good came out of it.
TheMercilessEye 2 months ago
Usually not a fan, but great video!
AFCoulthard 2 months ago
YAY! Defeated charges! ^^
A.G.
AussieGriffin 2 months ago
He should go to jail, and anyone who defends him should be taken outside and executed in front of their families. Also every human should be barcoded and those who have a low IQ should be taken to a special hospital and have their organs removed for the far superior and wealthy, Also Common people should not be allowed to Vote and women should be forced to stay at home and look after babies or be executed as well as anyone who disagrees with the Government, Government Is God.
EBOWARRIOR 2 months ago
@EBOWARRIOR lol well it is true if u cant get people to talk to you with good comments might as well post a stupid one for people to argue with you to make u feel important.
SinOfDisaster 2 months ago
@SinOfDisaster Actually that was not my point at all, the fact someone replied to me is neither here nor there. My point was to show the idiocracy of some people and their very very close minded opinions, The Governments of the world are so far beyond being fucked its now become only a matter of time before it all crashes down, and those who do not believe in this should open a history book and read what actually happened to The Roman Empire, Thanks for responding but i wasnt trying to annoy you
EBOWARRIOR 2 months ago
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@EBOWARRIOR oh no you didnt annoy me. and yes i do know what happens in the roman empire since i am trying to be a history major in college. what you say is true that is what this government is gonna end going back too its so fun going back into time reading everything that has been recorded love always making fun of Christianity just cause its so hypocritical. remember everyone you can murder abuse and rape anyone and still get into heaven with this nice little ticket to heaven the church sells
SinOfDisaster 2 months ago
@EBOWARRIOR Replace "corporations" with government and you have the republican party!
Imhornydadcomeinside 2 months ago
There's always been a tacit agreement of duplicity between society and police officers. The nature of the law is... absurd, one can't possibly even know all the laws. In Wyoming you could be fined $750 for not closing a fence. Police officers are mostly hunting for people doing things which they consider unethical. The problem is that if you record anyone for 10 minutes, they're sure to break some law if you look hard enough, that includes the police.
I can see why that would cause problems.
monkeytwineball 2 months ago
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This is why we, people outside of the US, laugh at your country.
LuxConcordiae 2 months ago
Do you have safeguards like, Abuse of Process and Malicious Prosecution over there?
KnockoffNigeI 2 months ago
Good video
I wish I could talk that fast.
Gotrilliten 2 months ago
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. This applies to citizens AND police!
DOHC2L 2 months ago
The Police is there to serve the State, which is a criminal organization.
DanMorin007 2 months ago
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Who will watch the watchers?
vts101 2 months ago
Police should never fever being taped if they are doing their job right. Now, all people are or should be considered innocent until proven guilty and therefore one may wish to consider publishing a tape before publishing said tape. I real concern is the tape from the start of the activity or just a film clip of the last moments of the activity. Clearly these need to be addressed in a court of law.
robertwterry 2 months ago
Slow down and take a breath....
BlueRidgeMarine 2 months ago
i always whip out my camera if im pulled over. i figure if they are filming me i should be able to do the same.
paradoxdesigns 2 months ago
wow he talk fast
blixi123 2 months ago
You know what they should do, which they'll never do? Have police men take an oath that if they abuse their power, they get put in jail for life. Hell, I never support the death penalty, but since they're signing off on it, they get capital punishment. I know that it would NEVER happen, but in a world that is as fucked up as this, we could hope for a miracle, eh?
TheShottyCutScene 2 months ago
@TheShottyCutScene
Believe my there punishment will come they swore to God to defend the Constitution and God will not be mocked
ViCe1986 2 months ago
OH MY GOD LEE! You are FINALLY speaking out on a civil rights issue! I almost had a heart attack.
LovesMassEffect 2 months ago
@LovesMassEffect
Lee has spoken out on several civil rights issues, where have you been?
ViCe1986 2 months ago
Lee Dorren's only good video
LobsterPotsticker 2 months ago
thanks bro for the info and this wouldn't happen if ron paul was elected.... ron paul 2012
onlym314 2 months ago
@onlym314 Are you retarded? The president has no control over state laws.
FaultlessGamer 2 months ago
@FaultlessGamer yes he does
federal law trumps state law, retard
LobsterPotsticker 2 months ago
@LobsterPotsticker Ok I stand corrected. But this video nothing to do with Ron Paul and its great if you like him that's good for you. But don't go on videos saying crap about voting its not your place to go and say things like that I mean I'd just as stupid if I said "Hey people vote for Rick Perry" but personally I hate Rick Perry and Ron Paul and Herman Cain and I don't like Obama that much either.
FaultlessGamer 2 months ago
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@onlym314 For the love of all that is holy!!! Everytime one of you Ron Paul supporters opens your mouth I die a little inside! You're all just like Obama supporters!!! You think that he's gonna change the world into some magical happy place! Frankly, the more you guys talk about him the less likely I am to vote for that old fool.
hooplablahblahblah 2 months ago
Such laws are totally anathema to a truly F R E E society. They exist only because police want to be free of scrutiny. Pretty scary, considering the powers they have. If they were an essentially honest bunch, they would WELCOME public scrutiny such as this to weed out the bad apples among them.
A video camera may be the only weapon a citizen has for self protection in instances of police corruption/brutality. All such laws must be stricken from the books.
all66books 2 months ago
I usually loath what this guy has to say, but in this video, he is fucking brilliant.
BigBis1337 2 months ago
The basics on Canadian recording laws re this:
If you are involved in a conversation, discussion, or event (and there are no IP concerns) then it is 100% within your rights to record it.
Sensible.
mistajames3213 2 months ago
There is a reason I avoid the People's Republic of Illinois.
oilhammer04 2 months ago
@oilhammer04 That bullshit, Illinois is a great state!
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@igottogether, I'm sure there a lot of great folks and some parts of Illinois are ok, but the state government doesn't not honor my 2nd amendment right as I travel through that state. I'm sorry for the offense, but the law in Illinois is not Constitutional in regards to the right to keep and bear arms.
oilhammer04 2 months ago
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@igottogether Yeah. It's as great as Barack Hussein Obama.
YunSuChenShue 2 months ago
It's unbelievable the fact that they would even consider putting this guy behind bars for the rest of his life for doing something this puny, especially in comparison to the crap that other people do and serve less time for. Now I'm sure a lot of us might be split on whether videotaping police officers without their consent should constitute as a criminal act or not, but if you think that 75 years is the right punishment, there is something seriously wrong with you.
JayLaher 2 months ago
@JayLaher Yup, violates the eight amendment.
theduke502 2 months ago
Anything and everything that can aid in a citizen's legal defense should be allowed. IMO police don't have the same rights as regular citizens because they are the long flabby (Simpsons) arm of the law. They already get to search your property, carry guns basically everywhere, use deadly force, et cetera; if someone wants to make sure they are doing so justifiably and responsibly by video/audio recording them, he should not be denied this.
Riflemanm16a2 2 months ago
@Riflemanm16a2 And, by "long flabby arm of the law," I mean they are just agents of the government.
Riflemanm16a2 2 months ago
Privacy while preforming your public duty, in a public place? Pure bullshit.
UtherPendragan 2 months ago 60
My second regret is that nothing will come from this because this has happened and will continue to happen many times over and it usually always starts with these alleged traffic violations. This supports my first regret, we are throwing away the opportunity to start a snowball of change by not saying "LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS CORRUPT! WE HAVE LET IT HAPPEN! IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN IF NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW! THE CORRUPTION IS HERE AND THIS IS ONLY THE SIGN OF IT SPREADING!"
secobi 2 months ago
Thanks a lot for this video. I have 2 regrets about this topic. For one, this is MONUMENTAL corruption, literally, in the symbolic sense; if there is any question about whether our political system is corrupt or has ever been corrupt you can point to the fact of this case. It is self-evident that these consequences are grossly if not inversely disproportionate to the burden this action places on on society, in fact, this type of law enforcement IS the burden on society.
secobi 2 months ago
That's why I am still subscribe to HTWW and unsubscribe to StevenCrowder . At least, he actually reports the news with the most balance results. Police Officers are NOT above the law, just like Corporate shills and politicians. However, they will never change their ways, instead they will to change the laws that puts hard-working, Liberty-loving demonstrating patriots to jail while making themselves fat out of taxpayer money.
b07rivera 2 months ago
This is why I wanna buy some of those tiny shirt or pen cams and carry them around religiously.
OtakuRebel 2 months ago
I can't believe that TheAmazingAtheist "liked" this video. Of course, he probably had a banana in his butt when he did.
BestVideoResponse 2 months ago
you talk very fast...
PsycloneTest 2 months ago
I saw this story a few months back and I'm still disgusted about it. Our first Amendment rights are being thrown out the window these days. Here's the thing. If you record a cops doing something GOOD such as rescuing a baby or playing with their K-9 Unit dogs they don't care about being a camera. The second you record them doing something wrong, they want you behind bars. It's not just politicians. It's the police force themselves.
NemesisPrime1989 2 months ago
The fact that 75 years was considered still makes it questionable
AwesomeBattle 2 months ago 21
@AwesomeBattle I think that violates the Cruel and Unusual Punishments clause right there.
MaxxTheMerciless 2 months ago
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Stop stressing your words randomly and trying to sound dramatic. Speak normally, faggot.
Azures7 2 months ago
Nov 3rd 2011???
unlostablelonelyguy 2 months ago
Does anyone know if recordings can be used as evidence?
For example, if I record the police, and catch them doing something illegal (planting drugs, wrongful searches etc.) am I allowed to use that as evidence, or does it fall under the laws that state if evidence is obtained illegally that it's inadmissible? or does that only apply to cops who obtain evidence illegally?
DeathOfAMudkip 2 months ago
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TheTrueConservative 2 months ago
That man would deserve a life sentence, he was stupid and shouldn't have been filming police in the first place. Atheists are ruining are nation by not respecting police.
HellsAtriumVEVO 2 months ago
@HellsAtriumVEVO fuck you
famdiaz04 2 months ago
@famdiaz04 I know I am correct on this because all the other side presents is insults. Anyone who thinks the man who was filming police doesn't belong in jail is a conspiracy theorist whack job.
HellsAtriumVEVO 2 months ago
@HellsAtriumVEVO such a troll.
666or999 2 months ago
@HellsAtriumVEVO funny
famdiaz04 2 months ago
@HellsAtriumVEVO Nice trolling mate. And if you aren't trolling, then you deserve the coming police state. I hope you don't honestly think that someone recording cops deserves a longer sentence than a murderer or a rapist.
CaptainPucky 2 months ago
LOL government.
tylerwylie 2 months ago
Totally off-topic here, but I loved the little note at the end, saying "December." That gave me my first good laugh of the day!
ecsheats 2 months ago
Even if all the charges are totally dropped the damage has been done.
I am sure this guy has spent thousands of dollars on legal fees and whatnot, as well as lost thousands in time and wasted effort. Plus the prosecutors have spent tens of thousands of tax payer dollars.
I am a Libertarian so I don't like very many laws, but one federal law that I would like to see passed is that public officials can be filmed and recorded while on the job.
karozans 2 months ago
Nvm I had a brain fart lol
SanguineBullet667 2 months ago
Don't you mean 'See Disc'?
SanguineBullet667 2 months ago
This is absurd...
Justas923 2 months ago
as wrong as this is...its not the fault of the people who dont inform their representatives of how they feel...its the fault of the people involved in the system pushing laws threw before the public has time to review them or even learn of their existance before passing into law...if we dont know a law is about to be passed before it is passed...how do we inform our representatives of how we feel about them
bklee83 2 months ago
@bklee83 torch and pitchfork parade right to their offices to politely request they repeal said laws, they are our "public SERVANTS" right?
ilovenh1 2 months ago
@ilovenh1 not sure exactly what your trying to say...can be taken a couple ways
bklee83 2 months ago
@bklee83 Just being my usual smart-ass self, I mean it actually IS our fault because WE let them get away with what they do. If you own a business & you get it to where its running without your daily oversight, you just cant go & goof off, someone WILL take advantage of the situation to steal, slack off, screw up... WE put these SCUMBAGS in office & WE have to watch over them & take quick, decisive & legal action to keep them in line.
That's the reason WE can legally abolish Govt at OUR will.
ilovenh1 2 months ago
Up & Beyond what HTWWs is saying, ....PUPLIC, filming GOV, must alway protected, they work for us!
marcef100 2 months ago
What are the laws on recording police period because they can get record you so theres no way im going down without a fight.
TheDevilBreaker 2 months ago
Unauthorized recordings in court should be illegal, personal information is revealed.
The court should make their own recordings tho.
sniper1724 2 months ago
Wow, a video from you I agree with! ....and although I often disagree with you, I enjoy the perspective and posting.
Debordsbullet 2 months ago
can someone tell me if this guy is left or right leaning and possibly if he is liberal, i was pretty sure he was pretty far to the right but i just wanted to make sure
jakatak1134 2 months ago
@jakatak1134 He's more to the right than anything else. That shouldn't matter, though - we can learn something from all sides of the spectrum.
davethehostage 2 months ago
@davethehostage yea no i definitely understand that but looking at more of his videos, especially his one talking about how we're not all equal i'd say this guy has got it all wrong, he doesn't seem to at all understand the extremely important concept (when pertaining to politics especially) that we are all products of our environment (for more on this look up Jacque Fresco). but this guy just seems to think that some people are better than others which you'll find isn't true
jakatak1134 2 months ago
@jakatak1134 I'll agree with you on that. I'm just speaking from a general point of view.
davethehostage 2 months ago
Police brutality!
zane98zane 2 months ago
My family is going through the court systems in Illinois right now. It is one of the most bloated, inexcusable pieces of crap bodies of legality I've ever seen. Living here in IL. is alright, except for the politics and legal system. They're one of the worst in the country.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
Eavesdropping is secretly listening to private conversations (without their consent).
Wiretapping is eavesdropping so and so is hacking into someone's computer. Openly video-taping the activities of police, government officials and even private citizens is not eavesdropping and everyone knows it. It would be hard to argue that simply taping the police's public actions would constitutent eavesdropping.
666sigma 2 months ago
This is disgraceful. Power should always be in the citizens hands, the Police HAVE to be monitored, we know they can't be trusted.
PerpetualTiredness 2 months ago 21
@PerpetualTiredness hey dipshit, its the county thats going to process them. and who are you to bust the balls of our officers out there. one day theres going to come a time you wish they were out there being monitored and were actually trying to catch the guy who hurt you.
XxxxExclusivexxxX 2 months ago
goddamit HTWW I agree with you
theloveshineatheist 2 months ago
subed
HellisListening1 2 months ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 2 months ago
I hate america, just the corrupt ass government ateast, and the idiot kids that think life is just fun and games.
samuriguy909 2 months ago
i think you meant to say DECEMBER 3rd 2011, but anyway great video as always lee.
TeslaDRay 2 months ago
That's completely intolerable, even if it was dismissed, that they can even think they have that kind of authority & that kind of immunity from prosecution or surveillance. Idiots keep giving government the power to pick & choose who's subject to which laws and we will be in something similar to the worst forms of horrible murderous abusive totalitarianism you've ever heard of. All it takes is the people allowing it.
tblbaby 2 months ago
Can you do a review of S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill? I cannot find any credible sources on it.
krraa 2 months ago
@admiralbullshit In Europe in the 1930's and 40's, what worked, violence or litigation? We have the same problem in America today; fascism is w