ok so you saying you have a hole new testament who clearly says he is god. hmm THE HOLE NEW TESTOMENT?? the original testoment does not say that. i can sit here and write a new testoment and make it say whatever i want.
QURAN is one and only book that never changed not even a word. You cant not argue based on the book that is changed several times
John 8:56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
So again the Jews understood he was claiming to be god and he didn't refute them hmm.
@HianJ0 We would all appreciate it if you used this garbage elsewhere. If you believe your God was man, born out of a vagina, urinated and defecated and murdered for sins that people still commit and do not repent for til this day, then I respect your beliefs. Jesus (Peace be upon him) was a true believer in One got and submitted himself to the One true God. He is Muslim, just like Adam, Abraham, Moses and finally Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon them.)
O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me."And we can keep searching but i suppose it's necesary to misquote verses so he can make a case about this all, and as i said this is only using Jhon,if we use all other disciples and apostles it would be massive,i don't undrstnd why ppl believes this guy knows so much,he is a populist he can convince like an insurance seller but :S I hope some1 answr me about the spirit of allah
John 17:10And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.wow many prophets would say such a thing, no actually they would say all i have it's urs, but lets keep looking in John 17:24Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Phil. 2:5-8, "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of GOD, did not regard EQUALITY with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross." So it was necessary for him to become "lower" than the father because he had to die hmm.
John 7:28Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not. 29But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.
John17:5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Another verse he might like to watch:John3:11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
It is one with God.So i recommend all muslims to go check ur own quran instead of letting these deceivers to deceide ur salvation.Because we have explaination, we have the hole new testament who clearly says he is god,yet even using only Jhon we can prove it,yet Islam put this subject under the carpet, but when any of u get to a conclusion of what is that Spirit of Allah well let me know because maybe its the same expaination than christianity: IT IS ONE WITH GOD. Zakir=Populist.
So you actually have one choice and it's not good for Islam.What is the strogest theory here. Islam copied ans pasted, they thought our trinity was father-Son-Mary, so they said "it's ok we put this thing here,because it's not part of that trinity" but u were wrong mates,it is part and even more it is the comforter who accroding to bible gives us the strenght,tells us about the truth, and is with every single folllower of the son of god.We don't have a problem with it having deity skills because
So the thing is,if this "thing" is a creture who was created by god(high ranked angel) that would mean that God need helps to do his deity job..and in islam(even in christianity) that would be a big Shirk(association to god isn't it),How can god be so weak that he needs this thing to give life,to give strenght,etc etc.Thats God's job because it's necessary the deity Attributes to do so.But if u don't wanna accept that then It is The same God but muhammad didn't say that
So this "thing" is omnipotent(giving life),Omnipresent(because he is with every single muslim in the world" and omniscient because it knows who is muslims and who is not to give strenght.So we should ask muhamamad what is this thing, the answer we get is Sura 17:85“Allah told me that you will ask me about the Spirit. I have to say to you, the Spirit belongs to God, not to men, and you have only received a little knowledge about the Spirit."pff great answer yet we know who is him is Christianity
Sura 32:9,Sura 15.29,Sura 58.22,Sura 38:72 ,Sura 16:102,Sura 21:91,Sura 4:171. So let's think about this.Our trinity is Father-Son-Holy Spirit(the quran is wrong when it says is Mary).So U dont have the son,yet u have a spirit who comes from Allah,who gives life,who gives all muslims strenght in faith,and who according to islam is the one who let jesus do miracles since he is the one who stregnten him,since quran said allah "allowed it" not that allah did it throught him.
But this is Insame because in the very effort to attack christianity he has attacked his own religion,since the bible in jhon states who is the comforter,so w/o that verse Muhammad is not predicted in the gospel,but w8 a min,he said he is, then if he is not, he was lying =S... Then he Most muslims says: Oh the trinity can't be true,ho can god be 3 persons.Well i have a question for all muslims, how can God be 2 persons?because in the quran u have the spirit of allah
Jhon 20:24-29 ‘Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing.’ Thomas answered and said to him, ‘My LORD and my GOD!’ Jesus said to him, ‘Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe." He says here, no how many time i must tell u i'm not god.NO!Actually he says "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe".
The Jews answered him, ‘It is not for a good work that we stone you but for blasphemy; because you, being a man, make yourself God.’” So at this point he must say: "no i'm not god" yet he says "If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand" Hmm Zakir should read that one too.
"My sheep hear my voice,and I know them,and they follow me;and I give them eternal life,and they shall never perish,and no one shall snatch them out of my hand.My Father,who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.I and the FATHER, WE ARE ONE.’ The Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, ‘I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of these do you stone me?
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you" But ok let's go back to Jhon 10:27-30 and read carefulyl :)
2 Peter 1:1 At this momment every single muslim must be saying that those are peters and Pauls words so those doesn't count, don't worry we will go back to jhon since i can see he likes him a lot,but i must remember u that those are the holy spirit words because as Jesus said John 16:12-14
So since i can see he doesn't understand the trinity i will try to explain it: We do not believe in 3 gods, we believe in 1 god in 3 Persons,each one having different Personalities,yet they are all one in God (god father, god son, god spirit),yet they don't work by each one will,but in an complete union,like a clock system. Jesus was under the father at that moment because as these next verses will explain he took the form of a servant so he could fulfil his job:Phil. 2:5-8,Gal. 4:4-5,Heb. 2:9
"Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF,so he has granted the SON also to have LIFE IN HIMSELF,and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man."At the end of the chap it says "I can do nothing on my own authority; as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.’
he will,as the father does.. hmm maybe later he explains it better so we can understand he isn't god after all.Let's continue "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, even as they HONOR the Father. He who does not HONOR the Son does not HONOR the Father who sent him. Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has ETERNAL life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.(continues)
Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing; for whatever he does, that the Son does likewise. For the Father loves the Son, and shows him all that he himself is doing; and greater works than these will he show him, that you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son GIVES LIFE to whom he will. W8 so now he is telling that he raises the dead and give them life to whom
John 5:16And this was why the Jews persecuted Jesus, because he did this on the sabbath. But Jesus answered them, ‘My Father is working still, AND I AM WORKING.’ This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father, making HIMSELF EQUAL TO GOD. hmm so the Jews did understand he was putting himself as good, but then jesus says: "No u r mistaking me im just a prophet" well lets keep reading
DR ZAKIR NAIK HAS MADE ME UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND BROUGHT ME CLOSER TO ISLAM MASHALLAH I LOVE HIM AND OWE MY UNDERSTANDING OF ISLAM TO HIM MAY ALLAH BLESS HIM AND ANYONE HE CARES FOR
Yashua is Yahweh! ---Jesus is Lord!--- ישו הוא האדון --- يسوع هو الرب ---Jésus est le Seigneur --- 耶稣是主 --- Jezus is de Heer --- Jesus ist der Herr ---Gesù è il Signore ---イエスは主である ---예수는 주님이시다 ---Иисус есть Господь ---Jesús es el Señor ---Ісус є Господь
I dont like when people talk about other religons! We have the Quron and they have the bible! We both have back up for what we believe so why say this and that when your gettting it from the quron...well they can go and do the same and get there backup from the bible..
@staroneluv everyone have right to tell the truth.if u r following false,then i have the right to say that's false.but i have no right to force u.if i'm following false,then u have the right to say that's false.for example if two persons travelling to the town ,suppose there are 2 ways,one is going to town and other is going to forest there are lions etc.suppose u are the one person who know the right way to town.And what u do if u see a person going to dangerous forest. leave or help him?
. when there remained only five salaat, Moosaa alayhis salaam once again suggested that Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam should return and request a reduction. Nabi sallallahu alayhi wasallam replied, "I have requested so much from My Lord that I feel ashamed (to ask for a further decrease). However, I am now satisfied and I submit myself to Allah's order."
To make a DVD player do you got to be a DVD Player???..... Soubhanallah!!!!! So God didnt need to become Human to see the strugle of mankind! What else proof is there!! Zakir Naik is the best
The Holy Qur'an says: "We have made some of these Apostles to excel
the others; among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank." (2:253)
Would it matter if Allah spoke to Muhammad PBUH directly or not????
We see by the proof of the Quran that it is impossible for a man to write over 1400 years. Quran is the most perfect book today. All other scriptures have errors, which even their scholars agree, while Quran is proven all right.
@GamerFTW21 Dude??? There is "ONLY ONE GOD AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS LAST PROPHET" ill be saying that to the DEATH BED INSHA'ALLAH. Bring a better RELIGION AND I WILL PRACTICE IT.... UNTIL THEN I AM A MUSLIM.
@GamerFTW21 BUT WHY WOULD I HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF A BOOK THAT CONTRADICTS ITS SELF IN SO MANY PLACES... FIRST I WILL STUDY THE QU'RAN, because as Jesus (P.B.U.H) said
"But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
Tell me what else he could be talking about but Muhammad and the QU'RAN..
So the Qu'ran is the last word of God before the day of Judgement. Your interesting you got FB?
@GamerFTW21 WHY WOULD GOD BECOME A MAN.... ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION... HAVE A LONGGG THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER. Your taking it out of CONTEXT..... JESUS HIMSELF DID NOT SEND Muhammad (P.B.U.H) BUT GOD SENT HIM. He as a Messenger is like the Mouth Piece of here to spread GODS Message..... What don't you get????
@GamerFTW21 Ok "dude" i take it your from the U.S.A. No YOU SAID the rest of the Messengers are not the TRUTH. THOSE WHERE YOUR WORDS. I said Jesus (P.B.U.H) was the truth as well as all the other Messengers of God, WHO CAME WITH ONE MESSAGE. FOLLOW ME AND BE ADMITTED INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. From Adam to Muhammad (P.B.U.H). It is a really simple idea, why complicate it???
@GamerFTW21 "When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 15:26
"But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
Who else is this talking about but Muhammad (P.B.U.H). There is no need to go to the Torah or Gospel, YOUR BIBLE tells of Muhammad (P.B.U.H)
@GamerFTW21 The Pope or whoever you follow may allow you to drink but it is forbidden. I'm saying people who kill innocent people are not following Gods teachings but, people are allowed to defend themselves. Going back to Jesus (P.B.U.H) he for told about the coming of Muhammad (P.B.U.H) in the BIBLE.."But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7
@GamerFTW21... Ok from me to you... Why would God turn himself into a man and come down to Earth? The Creator does not become the creation.... I agree with John 14:6... He is the truth and the life because he is a MESSENGER OF GOD who came with a MESSAGE... FOLLOW ME AND ME ADMITTED INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. A very SIMPLE message which a 5 year old could understand but sadly you cant but i sense you are searching for the truth, hence why your watching a Zakir Naik video. I will pray for you.
No it does not say in the Qu'ran blow people up. The religion of ISLAM is PERFECT, people are not. People say they are doing something in the Name of God but killing innocent people is wrong. Islam means SUBMISSION TO GOD. But like anyone Muslims are allowed to defend themselves.....
@GamerFTW21 Ok so we are agreed there is only ONE God....Fantastic...Your half way there. Now to clear up the rest...Jesus Christ is a MESSENGER of GOD. He came to Earth with a message to the Sons of ADAM. Follow me and be excepted into the Kingdom of Heaven. As in follow my teachings and God willing you will see heaven. Jesus Christ (P.B.U.H) never said "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME", he said follow my teachings. Get a RED LETTER BIBLE.... it states everything Jesus said and not ONCE did he say i am GOD
@GamerFTW21 Your God..... That is the problem with you Christians you can't understand that there is only ONE God.... Your God? You Christian say you LOVE Jesus Christ?? You aspire to be Christ Like? If you love him so much why don't you follow his teachings? The majority of you, drink alcohol, eat pork, are not circumcised, fornicate and these things Jesus as a Messenger of the ONE GOD forbade. You aspire to be like him but you go against his teachings. We Muslims are more Christian then you.
@GamerFTW21 Then there's the obvious crap about being visited by an angel of God (usually claimed to be Gabriel). When it's written plainly that an Angel of God always introduces himself with "I am _____ who stands in the presence of God" not with something like "Read, in the name of your lord, who creates, creates man from a clot." Who's lord? heh...Speaks plainly to me, really.
@GamerFTW21 most of those idiots don't even know that Muhammad was Egyptian, not an Arab. Descendant of Ishmael, perhaps, I haven't got that far yet, but Arabic? No. heh
The only thing we can do is show them the truth. If they want to continue in a massive lie, it's their butts, not mine.
@GamerFTW21 Some of us though, have read their books. They also claim the Bible is corrupted beyond it's originals. heh
And what proof do they have to support that claim? Ibn-Khazem's 1064AD claim has been proven to be false by the discovery and comparison of the Codex Sinaiticus (from 350AD) and verses within their own Qur'an like Sura 2:136, 2:285, 3:3, 3:93 and others. They can keep spouting their nonsense, because some of us know what Islam really is, and what it's intentions are.
@GamerFTW21 we dont follow anyones teaching but our Prophets teachings like Abraham, Moses, Jesus, (pbut) we follow teachings of Islam not persons. like Christians follow teachings of Pope Of Vatican. peace and I personally have read Torah once, and Bible twice!
Wow Christianity is full of contradictions. Those dumb KKK's just don't understand do they. They call us terrorists but forget how much they hated Blacks, Native Indians, Japaneses, Mexicans and now us. May God have mercy on them all. (Not Jesus)
@followerofjesus1984 yes it is disgusting , and there is a purpose to , if u have read the bible u would know that it was to show us that we are sinners and need to be saved from it
@revengeoftheturnip im aware ofthese accounts, of the incest like in genesis which involves lot and his daughters, and davids son and daughter,
and the only account of alcohl really is in genesis about noah .... which show humans tendacy to sin, so the bible includes these things to do with our fall into sin
ok u made a claim of eight daughter giveme the book , chapter, and veres -----
to understand why u find these accounts u need to understand we as humans have fallen
@revengeoftheturnip does ever make u wonder the purpose behind the sacrificial covenants, that the old and new testament testafies to
my friend u have no clue about my believes, the perfect man of esus is what was crucified , the divine nature remained alive even after,
this proves u have no clue to who God is and what he is capable of, or what his nature really is, but its no suprise really, u have been lied to many times
For All of u confused ppl, plz plz plz go and read Quran once,where Allah SWT (THE CREATOR) challenges any non-beliver to bring or write anitng like it! Its the challenge from "THE GOD" if u got the guts take this challenge or else just b blind! May Allah SWT guide us all.(ameen)
@revengeoftheturnip and it is the perect huamn that took on flesh and chose to give his life inorder to save a wretched sinner like me
my friend it is this darkness u have found ur self lost in that keeps u fom seeing the glorious light of Christ, he is wait at ur day just let him in, and do not be a fool who would rather believe a man than Go
a ------ he is the God incarnite and he has two nature his in both human nature and devine
b ----- people did not make him die, he chose to die for all mans sin and this is Gods gift to us and that he wants us to be closer to him and what better way is there but fr God to take on our sin and make us right for the lord God our hevenly father
c ----- i do not attribute any weaknesses to him , i do not even wish to tell God what he and can not do, it is God 's place to
ooooo allah the deen show with brother zakir naik!!!!!!!! allah theres only one god and mohammed was his messenger, allaaah theres only one god and jesus was his messenger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) salamu alaykum my brothers and sisters all over the world
no my friend, allah denys u the right, he said he is a father to none
and this doesnt just show the oneness of God it actually a lot more, as the father , the son and the spirit are called lord, which by the way is the english word that is ascribed as to the hebrew word yahweh
Dr. Zakir Nakir is really an intelligent man.. Allah has guided him to the right path, he will always be one of the ways to spread ISLAM..
let us all read Surah Ikhlas, reading it once, is like reading the 1/3 of the Qur-an, reading it thrice is like reading the whole Qur-an.. Each letter you read in the Qur-an will be rewarded by Allah.. i know you know this, it is just a reminder..
God's message came to earth in human form known as Jesus Christ. In order to teach mankind one must be an example. That's why he sent Jesus instead of just sending words for scripture.
YES u have misunderstood the word of the bible, I mean come on folks how can u listen to someone who says.. in order to create a DVD player doesn't mean I have to become a DVD player this is Laughable. This guy I am sure is a very nice man, but he has no idea (he's no expert as suggested) what the bible means he is Reading what he WANTS to hear. Lets face it if Jesus would have come RIGHT OUT AND SAID.. I AM GOD who would have believed him??
@TheChrissy48 (contd) This is where the word FAITH comes into it.. Jesus spoke and people believed him. He did things NO OTHER (so called prophet did) he FORGAVE SINS.. he spoke with authority, he CLAIMED THINGS that proved he was not a MAN but he BECAME FLESH AND DWELT amongst us. Its not abt KILLING a man. It was a SYMBOL of GODS love, tht he GAVE his only BEGOTTEN SON to die FOR OUR SIN. SALVATION cannot be obtained WITHOUT belief in this MESSAGE!
@TheChri Sir, God is capable to do do Godly things. He does not need to lower down Himself to Human level to know us. He does not punish innocent person for a sinfull person as mentioned in Old Testament. God is the most Mercifull and forgives us as we repent with true heart and turn to Him by obeying His Commandments. Jesus clearly said that he is not good as God and nobody has power to see God as He is invisible. Jesus could clearly say that He was God and all can see him. Just think about it.
@TheMasood4724 My goodness, I think TheChri doesn't really see it. These people are so smart but doesn't see that GOD is one. ANd Jesus is human and not the son of God. He's a messenger!!!!
@walkonthewildside78 the trinity has been too engrained in almost every sect of christianity man, even Rastafarian's who take it further than philosophy think H.I.M was Isa (and through trinity God)--ruled by law, converted to Islam--as the last version of Christ--I consider H.I.M. a reincarnation but the last is yet to come. (I do not consider him a Prophet but an important man and reincarnation of the soul of The LOgos). Sad part is most Christians dont hear much else other than trinity
i would say im a closed minded cause i do not believe that there a other ways of getting to God , if God reveals tht salvation can only be obtained by believing in what he has laid out in the sacrifice of his son, an then another revelation comes later and denies these then is God contradiction himsel
or is it prehap a demonic spirit in the late to deny the first, and that consistantly appeal to the first for backing itself
if the first is corrupt as u believe why appal to it
@followerofjesus1984 i agree u are close minded. show me where it was said believing that Isa (bpuh) is the lit "son of God" every man is God's son and we are all given His powers here on Earth. Isa was a Son of Man not of God. The trinity was defined about 300yrs AFTER Christ. u for some reason think yours is the only way. it may be for you, but others work and think differently. U really think God cares about your specific religion? What about an atheist who keeps 10 commandments?
a ----- this guy like a lot of muhammadums has no clue to what he is trying to refute, based upon the trinity , and jesus being the son of God
b ---- and he clearly does not have any idea how to understand our scriptures, as everypoint he raises with certain phrases which in context refutes his distortion of the passages
i wish for once this dr what shall we call him nancy would take up the challenges from our apologists,
@walkonthewildside78 sorry i do not think im the one confused, islam is about believing in something with no proof, as in ur prophet, what proof is there is one, nothing but his own words, and that is not valid, what witnesses where there his revelation.... none
even more so, why do he contradict history .... the crucifixin is the best attested fact of history, there no doubting it
and the sha hada is not a real thing, two handred year removed from the prophets time, no eternal bearing,
@followerofjesus1984 Salaam Aleykum brother in God thank you for your question. Isa (pbuh) was indeed the Logos, or Word (of God) and we can agree on that :) Now, speaking from personal experience, I was Christian and accepted Islam and the Prophet (PBUH) bc it was already my thinking (nontrinitarian) and I feel that the Prophets philosophies were most logical (to me). I am Sufi, so I feel Allah reveals in many ways not just Islam and whichever works best for person in question we r all brothers
@InIJah yes jesu is and was the word of God, and that word became fleshGod the word took on flesh in person of Jesus Christ
God is one nature seen in the person of three, the father, son and the spirit, the son is who became jesus
you say you were a christian, but u were not a triniterrian, so u were a uniterrian christian, i dont class them as true Chrsitians, you can not get by it the bible lead to the tiniterrian veiw , if it is read the way it is shown
@followerofjesus1984 hahaha "true christians"? Who are we to judge who's faith is what? God reveals Himself in various ways to various peoples and to not accept that is close minded. We were all created by God we are all Brothers in Him not in religion but in belief and spirit. I just get muffed bc everybody acts like these are new ideas and as if the Church hasn't decided things on their own but it was there all along. Read about 1st and second nicean councils you'll see what i mean
@InIJah yes agree on the part of God reveals himself i different ways, therefore sine u premitted this statement ---- then i can say God revealed his nature as three persons, and tthen one took on fles as the bible declares
tre Christians ... ll i means is that by the bible u can determine if a christian is true by his actions and his lifestyle, if it does not match to the bibe then they are not Christian, but just wear the name tag
@followerofjesus1984 no Isa is The Word of God in the Bible. The Word became flesh, not God. Once again I must reiterate to some Christians there is no evidence of God having a "son" in Jesus/Isa pbuh. It does not explicitly say anything of that nature. Isa (pbuh) is the Word of God and spreader, but NOT the son. If Isa was God he would have been able to answer questions in the Bible that he could not. Also if God turns into a man he cant turn back again, because he's a man now, not God.
@InIJah ur wrong my friend, stop acting like u know the bible when u dont
Jesus is the sone of God, he said it himself in all the gospels in one way or another, and john one is saying in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and was God meaning he is God too,
and jesus said time and time again he is the son of God in john five : twenty - three - twenty - six, and john ten : thirty six - thirty seven,
@followerofjesus1984 also pls know that much in Christianity was decided by the chruch (ie Trinity what would b in the biblical cannon, etc) and call anything else "evil". Also if u read original Greek and Amharic of New and Old Testaments respectively, you will find that much has been changed in meaning because of ppl who wanted it to say something else (like King James). Islam allows for interpretation and tolerance as Allah works His Own Ways. Peace and God b with u and ur fam =)
one ---- the Church is not an organisation, its a family of believers, unless u mean the catholic side which is more leaning to an organisation
and every thing we come to be lieve in is strictly from the bible teaching not man, the tinity is in the bible not by name but by concept and relational understanding in matthew twenty eight, john chapters forteen - sixteen and more
two ---- my friend i call evil to what is evil based on what it teaches and implores although i dont believe the whole quran is evil , there certainly is very evilistic tones to my faith and the jewish faith,
i dont call muslims evil either, as that is not true muslims are great people, just some action they take are classed as such like burning churches and difiling and killing christian in other countries
@InIJah unless there is another thing u men by evil .... plz clarify
nothing has been Change in wide sence of veiw, the king james is a good transalation basd onsome lil things but its based o later manuscripts, even having said this , it is still a good transaltion regardless even though i have one r two, i dont use them
@TheChrissy48 If you research the early church you will find Arianism was actually a popular veiw and won the first council of Nicea until the second unfortunately. Thank you for your respect and I return it with Salaam (peace) but instead of concentrating on differences can we agree the Jesus (pbuh) spread the Word of God?
It really doesn't matter how many times these people try to disprove the teachings of Jesus HIMSELF they will fail to GET the fundamental message... You CANNOT get to heaven by doing good works, by praying 5 times a day,by wearing a Hijab, strapping a bomb to ur body in the name of Allah.. or by repeating "peace be upon him" everytime they mention Mohammad/jesus/moses name.. there is only one way and I am not even going to type it here coz its a waste of time.
My friends, the thing that sets Christianity apart from every other religion, and every cult in the world is grace, the “unmerited, unearned, undeserved, favor of God.” And I want you to know, my friends, God’s grace is sufficient.
@TheMasood4724 thanks a lot bro that same question came into my mind and more than the truth i was wondering why this guy is repeating himself.....i am a sinful idiot please pray for me .....cheers.
If you cannot debate him for the lack of knowledge then join him in Islam.Bad mouthing him only shows you accept the truth he is saying but you cannot accept it.
11101ahmed JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD JOHN 3:16 and was with GOD GENESIS 1:26 When GOD said let US make man in OUR IMAGE Who else is with GOD? adam failed,and JESUS offered to come to earth in disguise to die for us.mark 15:34 he felt the fathers prescence leave him as all of the world's sin entered him. "the everlasting life" is for his "sheep" when they die the GURU has spoken.
@followerofjesus1984 if God sent an innocent man to die for the sins of the world then he is a false god ? why becoz the true God is just !? alsso the old testament teaches that no one should for the sins of others ..the idea of the original sin is made up by paul who claimed he had a vision of jesus
@MuslimByChoice look its tht od sent an innocent man to die, he sent his son to die for our sin, God showed us his love by giving the one thing ment everything to him, so that we could become close to him once again,
not another attack on paul, e saw a visin jesus, this much is true, and all that followed is too, muhammad saw an angel and u believe in that , but i dont
@followerofjesus1984 the question what did the angel tell Muhammad? did he tell him that God is three in one, did he tell him that its ok to eat pork although its forbidden in the old testament ( did God change his mind ? ), did he tell him that its ok if you didn't circumcize your male children because what matter is the circumcision of the heart ? ( again did God change his mind? ), do you really think Jesus would approve these things I don't think so
@MuslimByChoice intersting, haa, God has been shared by 3 sin day one, the angel that visited muhammad was an angel of light = the devil not God's angel
so ur telling me all didnt know who the trinity consists of , its never ben mary jesus and allah, but more over the father, theson, the spirit
@followerofjesus1984 brother, which vision of paul are you talking about, because there are actually two contradictory versions of paul's visons. So we could have beleived him but since we do not really know which of his story to beleive.........
@khairuleven no God is one being but not in person there are 3 , the son became a man, and has to natures , the huma nature is what died, whilest the devine remained in tact, s God did not die, but the son who had the nature of a man ad that nature died
@followerofjesus1984 it is not enough for jesus to kill himself to pay all the sins of humans..if u compared what jesus in ur book has suffered with what the punishment in hell fire is,its nothing..furthermore,how could people just get away with their sins and let one person take all the punishment.its unfair.what u say is unclear.christianity is unclear and frustrating.
@khairuleven Jesus was sent to die for our sin, its not a question of eople geting a way with sin, cause onceu give ur life to follow him, and believe in him, the spirit will come upon you and change you as a person and all you want to do is bring glory to the father through doing th workof his son
we are not called to carry o doing the deprived thing of the sinful nature thaat ued inhabit us, cause christ died for our sin, we as christians have been raised up in his love, and must show our selve in light of his teaching and mannaer, this means we can't do things that dishonour God
@followerofjesus1984 then u still hav ur sin and jesus's death doesnt mean all ur sins are forgiven right..what is the effects of his death on the sins then..?nothing right.he died for nothing or maybe just for demonstration of masochism perhaps.
@khairuleven wrong, jesus died every last sin of man, kind, bt the thing u need to know is man can be trapped in in sin if they dont come to jesus to e cleaned, if you come to him you are forgiven and ur sin is no more
@followerofjesus1984 which mean god does die for our sins,so why do we need forgiveness if theres no more sins?i dont understand trapped in a sin while there is no sin
@followerofjesus1984 u mean only through jesus all the sins will be forgiven?so in order for mankind to be forgiven their sins jesus needs to be crucified,then ask forgiveness from him.what about those who have lived before before jesus's times.they were not forgiven because before that god does not forgive them.thats why it is false that u need jesus's crucifixion to forgive ur sins.
@khairuleven yes that is i saying, jesus is the lamb of God, who was ent t take away the sin of the world
but its a two way token, you need to accept him first, cause if you dont you willbe saying your sacrifice of love was worthless, and that i prefer to live in sin
@followerofjesus1984 God says to Jesus go down and be crucified for people's sins but still he does forgive people that ask for forgiveness.why does jesus needs to be crucified for sins if they still need forgiveness from the Lord???
@followerofjesus1984 which mean god does die for our sins,so why do we need forgiveness if theres no more sins?i dont understand trapped in a sin while there is no sin
1 i never sed God died for our sin, i sed that jesus died for our sin, jesus 1 one of person the triune God, when he became a human he had 2 natures human n dedevine and the human died with the sin
if u dont accept im as ur saviour you cary on in sin
@khairuleven no, in our belelief, hehad so much love for that he wants us to saved and counted as part of his family, he doesnt go for dignity or pride, for this thing can very damaging to oneself
ok so you saying you have a hole new testament who clearly says he is god. hmm THE HOLE NEW TESTOMENT?? the original testoment does not say that. i can sit here and write a new testoment and make it say whatever i want.
QURAN is one and only book that never changed not even a word. You cant not argue based on the book that is changed several times
nabeeltaqi 5 months ago
Unlimited memory masha allah!!!
mansuraus 5 months ago
may allah bless him!!!
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LifePasserBy 6 months ago
John 8:56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
So again the Jews understood he was claiming to be god and he didn't refute them hmm.
HianJ0 6 months ago
@HianJ0 We would all appreciate it if you used this garbage elsewhere. If you believe your God was man, born out of a vagina, urinated and defecated and murdered for sins that people still commit and do not repent for til this day, then I respect your beliefs. Jesus (Peace be upon him) was a true believer in One got and submitted himself to the One true God. He is Muslim, just like Adam, Abraham, Moses and finally Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon them.)
Tezcatlipoca0047 6 months ago
@HianJ0 look at the video I put your inbox massege
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HianJ0 6 months ago
O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me."And we can keep searching but i suppose it's necesary to misquote verses so he can make a case about this all, and as i said this is only using Jhon,if we use all other disciples and apostles it would be massive,i don't undrstnd why ppl believes this guy knows so much,he is a populist he can convince like an insurance seller but :S I hope some1 answr me about the spirit of allah
HianJ0 6 months ago
John 17:10And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.wow many prophets would say such a thing, no actually they would say all i have it's urs, but lets keep looking in John 17:24Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
HianJ0 6 months ago
Phil. 2:5-8, "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of GOD, did not regard EQUALITY with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross." So it was necessary for him to become "lower" than the father because he had to die hmm.
HianJ0 6 months ago
John 7:28Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not. 29But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.
John17:5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
So paul is right in phill 2:5-8
HianJ0 6 months ago
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Another verse he might like to watch:John3:11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
HianJ0 6 months ago
It is one with God.So i recommend all muslims to go check ur own quran instead of letting these deceivers to deceide ur salvation.Because we have explaination, we have the hole new testament who clearly says he is god,yet even using only Jhon we can prove it,yet Islam put this subject under the carpet, but when any of u get to a conclusion of what is that Spirit of Allah well let me know because maybe its the same expaination than christianity: IT IS ONE WITH GOD. Zakir=Populist.
HianJ0 6 months ago
So you actually have one choice and it's not good for Islam.What is the strogest theory here. Islam copied ans pasted, they thought our trinity was father-Son-Mary, so they said "it's ok we put this thing here,because it's not part of that trinity" but u were wrong mates,it is part and even more it is the comforter who accroding to bible gives us the strenght,tells us about the truth, and is with every single folllower of the son of god.We don't have a problem with it having deity skills because
HianJ0 6 months ago
So the thing is,if this "thing" is a creture who was created by god(high ranked angel) that would mean that God need helps to do his deity job..and in islam(even in christianity) that would be a big Shirk(association to god isn't it),How can god be so weak that he needs this thing to give life,to give strenght,etc etc.Thats God's job because it's necessary the deity Attributes to do so.But if u don't wanna accept that then It is The same God but muhammad didn't say that
HianJ0 6 months ago
So this "thing" is omnipotent(giving life),Omnipresent(because he is with every single muslim in the world" and omniscient because it knows who is muslims and who is not to give strenght.So we should ask muhamamad what is this thing, the answer we get is Sura 17:85“Allah told me that you will ask me about the Spirit. I have to say to you, the Spirit belongs to God, not to men, and you have only received a little knowledge about the Spirit."pff great answer yet we know who is him is Christianity
HianJ0 6 months ago
Sura 32:9,Sura 15.29,Sura 58.22,Sura 38:72 ,Sura 16:102,Sura 21:91,Sura 4:171. So let's think about this.Our trinity is Father-Son-Holy Spirit(the quran is wrong when it says is Mary).So U dont have the son,yet u have a spirit who comes from Allah,who gives life,who gives all muslims strenght in faith,and who according to islam is the one who let jesus do miracles since he is the one who stregnten him,since quran said allah "allowed it" not that allah did it throught him.
HianJ0 6 months ago
But this is Insame because in the very effort to attack christianity he has attacked his own religion,since the bible in jhon states who is the comforter,so w/o that verse Muhammad is not predicted in the gospel,but w8 a min,he said he is, then if he is not, he was lying =S... Then he Most muslims says: Oh the trinity can't be true,ho can god be 3 persons.Well i have a question for all muslims, how can God be 2 persons?because in the quran u have the spirit of allah
HianJ0 6 months ago
Jhon 20:24-29 ‘Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing.’ Thomas answered and said to him, ‘My LORD and my GOD!’ Jesus said to him, ‘Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe." He says here, no how many time i must tell u i'm not god.NO!Actually he says "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe".
HianJ0 6 months ago
The Jews answered him, ‘It is not for a good work that we stone you but for blasphemy; because you, being a man, make yourself God.’” So at this point he must say: "no i'm not god" yet he says "If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand" Hmm Zakir should read that one too.
HianJ0 6 months ago
"My sheep hear my voice,and I know them,and they follow me;and I give them eternal life,and they shall never perish,and no one shall snatch them out of my hand.My Father,who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.I and the FATHER, WE ARE ONE.’ The Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, ‘I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of these do you stone me?
HianJ0 6 months ago
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"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you" But ok let's go back to Jhon 10:27-30 and read carefulyl :)
HianJ0 6 months ago
2 Peter 1:1 At this momment every single muslim must be saying that those are peters and Pauls words so those doesn't count, don't worry we will go back to jhon since i can see he likes him a lot,but i must remember u that those are the holy spirit words because as Jesus said John 16:12-14
HianJ0 6 months ago
So since i can see he doesn't understand the trinity i will try to explain it: We do not believe in 3 gods, we believe in 1 god in 3 Persons,each one having different Personalities,yet they are all one in God (god father, god son, god spirit),yet they don't work by each one will,but in an complete union,like a clock system. Jesus was under the father at that moment because as these next verses will explain he took the form of a servant so he could fulfil his job:Phil. 2:5-8,Gal. 4:4-5,Heb. 2:9
HianJ0 6 months ago
"Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF,so he has granted the SON also to have LIFE IN HIMSELF,and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man."At the end of the chap it says "I can do nothing on my own authority; as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.’
HianJ0 6 months ago
he will,as the father does.. hmm maybe later he explains it better so we can understand he isn't god after all.Let's continue "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, even as they HONOR the Father. He who does not HONOR the Son does not HONOR the Father who sent him. Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has ETERNAL life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.(continues)
HianJ0 6 months ago
Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing; for whatever he does, that the Son does likewise. For the Father loves the Son, and shows him all that he himself is doing; and greater works than these will he show him, that you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son GIVES LIFE to whom he will. W8 so now he is telling that he raises the dead and give them life to whom
HianJ0 6 months ago
John 5:16And this was why the Jews persecuted Jesus, because he did this on the sabbath. But Jesus answered them, ‘My Father is working still, AND I AM WORKING.’ This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father, making HIMSELF EQUAL TO GOD. hmm so the Jews did understand he was putting himself as good, but then jesus says: "No u r mistaking me im just a prophet" well lets keep reading
HianJ0 6 months ago
DR ZAKIR NAIK HAS MADE ME UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND BROUGHT ME CLOSER TO ISLAM MASHALLAH I LOVE HIM AND OWE MY UNDERSTANDING OF ISLAM TO HIM MAY ALLAH BLESS HIM AND ANYONE HE CARES FOR
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Yashua is Yahweh! ---Jesus is Lord!--- ישו הוא האדון --- يسوع هو الرب ---Jésus est le Seigneur --- 耶稣是主 --- Jezus is de Heer --- Jesus ist der Herr ---Gesù è il Signore ---イエスは主である ---예수는 주님이시다 ---Иисус есть Господь ---Jesús es el Señor ---Ісус є Господь
hebrews1234 8 months ago
I dont like when people talk about other religons! We have the Quron and they have the bible! We both have back up for what we believe so why say this and that when your gettting it from the quron...well they can go and do the same and get there backup from the bible..
staroneluv 9 months ago
@staroneluv everyone have right to tell the truth.if u r following false,then i have the right to say that's false.but i have no right to force u.if i'm following false,then u have the right to say that's false.for example if two persons travelling to the town ,suppose there are 2 ways,one is going to town and other is going to forest there are lions etc.suppose u are the one person who know the right way to town.And what u do if u see a person going to dangerous forest. leave or help him?
habeebchirayil 8 months ago
I respect you so much Dr Zakir Naik!!!! Always prey for you MashAllah!
MrZIODIK 9 months ago 5
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fuck all muslims dickhead
androandro789 9 months ago
@GamerFTW21 If you wanna know when Muhammad spoke to God directly u better learn about Isra' Mikraj in islam..its too long to post here =D
toklaut7 10 months ago
. when there remained only five salaat, Moosaa alayhis salaam once again suggested that Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam should return and request a reduction. Nabi sallallahu alayhi wasallam replied, "I have requested so much from My Lord that I feel ashamed (to ask for a further decrease). However, I am now satisfied and I submit myself to Allah's order."
The29darkboyin84 10 months ago
To make a DVD player do you got to be a DVD Player???..... Soubhanallah!!!!! So God didnt need to become Human to see the strugle of mankind! What else proof is there!! Zakir Naik is the best
lavidaspeligrosa 10 months ago
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Live Long Dr. Zakir Naik
Asad9348 11 months ago
Live Long Dr. Zakir Naik
Asad9348 11 months ago 12
The Holy Qur'an says: "We have made some of these Apostles to excel
the others; among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank." (2:253)
Would it matter if Allah spoke to Muhammad PBUH directly or not????
We see by the proof of the Quran that it is impossible for a man to write over 1400 years. Quran is the most perfect book today. All other scriptures have errors, which even their scholars agree, while Quran is proven all right.
eaMusIk2008 11 months ago
Subhanallah! Dr. Zakir naik is amazing. His example of the dvd player is amazing!
eaMusIk2008 11 months ago
@eaMusIk2008 Its also funny about the DVD player. He is putting his intelectual into the people who are also totaly materilized!!
lavidaspeligrosa 10 months ago
@GamerFTW21
He is the Final Prophet (Sallallahu ‘alayhi wa Sallam) (33:40)
eaMusIk2008 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Dude??? There is "ONLY ONE GOD AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS LAST PROPHET" ill be saying that to the DEATH BED INSHA'ALLAH. Bring a better RELIGION AND I WILL PRACTICE IT.... UNTIL THEN I AM A MUSLIM.
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 BUT WHY WOULD I HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF A BOOK THAT CONTRADICTS ITS SELF IN SO MANY PLACES... FIRST I WILL STUDY THE QU'RAN, because as Jesus (P.B.U.H) said
"But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
Tell me what else he could be talking about but Muhammad and the QU'RAN..
So the Qu'ran is the last word of God before the day of Judgement. Your interesting you got FB?
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 WHY WOULD GOD BECOME A MAN.... ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION... HAVE A LONGGG THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER. Your taking it out of CONTEXT..... JESUS HIMSELF DID NOT SEND Muhammad (P.B.U.H) BUT GOD SENT HIM. He as a Messenger is like the Mouth Piece of here to spread GODS Message..... What don't you get????
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Ok "dude" i take it your from the U.S.A. No YOU SAID the rest of the Messengers are not the TRUTH. THOSE WHERE YOUR WORDS. I said Jesus (P.B.U.H) was the truth as well as all the other Messengers of God, WHO CAME WITH ONE MESSAGE. FOLLOW ME AND BE ADMITTED INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. From Adam to Muhammad (P.B.U.H). It is a really simple idea, why complicate it???
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 "When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 15:26
"But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26
Who else is this talking about but Muhammad (P.B.U.H). There is no need to go to the Torah or Gospel, YOUR BIBLE tells of Muhammad (P.B.U.H)
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 The Pope or whoever you follow may allow you to drink but it is forbidden. I'm saying people who kill innocent people are not following Gods teachings but, people are allowed to defend themselves. Going back to Jesus (P.B.U.H) he for told about the coming of Muhammad (P.B.U.H) in the BIBLE.."But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21... Ok from me to you... Why would God turn himself into a man and come down to Earth? The Creator does not become the creation.... I agree with John 14:6... He is the truth and the life because he is a MESSENGER OF GOD who came with a MESSAGE... FOLLOW ME AND ME ADMITTED INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. A very SIMPLE message which a 5 year old could understand but sadly you cant but i sense you are searching for the truth, hence why your watching a Zakir Naik video. I will pray for you.
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!
Isaiah 5:11-14 (King James Version)
KEY WORD: WOE.
No it does not say in the Qu'ran blow people up. The religion of ISLAM is PERFECT, people are not. People say they are doing something in the Name of God but killing innocent people is wrong. Islam means SUBMISSION TO GOD. But like anyone Muslims are allowed to defend themselves.....
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Ok so we are agreed there is only ONE God....Fantastic...Your half way there. Now to clear up the rest...Jesus Christ is a MESSENGER of GOD. He came to Earth with a message to the Sons of ADAM. Follow me and be excepted into the Kingdom of Heaven. As in follow my teachings and God willing you will see heaven. Jesus Christ (P.B.U.H) never said "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME", he said follow my teachings. Get a RED LETTER BIBLE.... it states everything Jesus said and not ONCE did he say i am GOD
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Your God..... That is the problem with you Christians you can't understand that there is only ONE God.... Your God? You Christian say you LOVE Jesus Christ?? You aspire to be Christ Like? If you love him so much why don't you follow his teachings? The majority of you, drink alcohol, eat pork, are not circumcised, fornicate and these things Jesus as a Messenger of the ONE GOD forbade. You aspire to be like him but you go against his teachings. We Muslims are more Christian then you.
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Then there's the obvious crap about being visited by an angel of God (usually claimed to be Gabriel). When it's written plainly that an Angel of God always introduces himself with "I am _____ who stands in the presence of God" not with something like "Read, in the name of your lord, who creates, creates man from a clot." Who's lord? heh...Speaks plainly to me, really.
DreadStorm 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 most of those idiots don't even know that Muhammad was Egyptian, not an Arab. Descendant of Ishmael, perhaps, I haven't got that far yet, but Arabic? No. heh
The only thing we can do is show them the truth. If they want to continue in a massive lie, it's their butts, not mine.
DreadStorm 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Some of us though, have read their books. They also claim the Bible is corrupted beyond it's originals. heh
And what proof do they have to support that claim? Ibn-Khazem's 1064AD claim has been proven to be false by the discovery and comparison of the Codex Sinaiticus (from 350AD) and verses within their own Qur'an like Sura 2:136, 2:285, 3:3, 3:93 and others. They can keep spouting their nonsense, because some of us know what Islam really is, and what it's intentions are.
DreadStorm 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 Our prophet. Muhammed (P.B.U.H) was the last Prophet to Mankind, whether you accept him or not..
fontie6 11 months ago
@GamerFTW21 we dont follow anyones teaching but our Prophets teachings like Abraham, Moses, Jesus, (pbut) we follow teachings of Islam not persons. like Christians follow teachings of Pope Of Vatican. peace and I personally have read Torah once, and Bible twice!
kurdishleader 1 year ago
Dr Zakir best of the best.
aksfilmsusa 1 year ago
My advise to Xristian, Jews, atheists etc.. Is to read the Quran so that you will get better understanding of Islam/Muslims. Peace
kurdishleader 1 year ago 2
@onglez i would just like to know who told you such bullshit?
captainattack 1 year ago
Great work
Allah helps you
MakkahLover 1 year ago
Wow Christianity is full of contradictions. Those dumb KKK's just don't understand do they. They call us terrorists but forget how much they hated Blacks, Native Indians, Japaneses, Mexicans and now us. May God have mercy on them all. (Not Jesus)
Aceblazin 1 year ago 2
aamirjohn1986 stfu u douch u dont noe shyt the truth infront of u and u still acting like a bithch so dont talk
HMJokesify 1 year ago
truth speaks its self subhanallah
MOMARMAZHAR 1 year ago
Allah hu akbar
MuhammedP23 1 year ago
@revengeoftheturnip so to go to video and sites and pull thses thing and use with understanding the purpose of them being told is very oor work
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
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@followerofjesus1984 yes it is disgusting , and there is a purpose to , if u have read the bible u would know that it was to show us that we are sinners and need to be saved from it
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@revengeoftheturnip im aware ofthese accounts, of the incest like in genesis which involves lot and his daughters, and davids son and daughter,
and the only account of alcohl really is in genesis about noah .... which show humans tendacy to sin, so the bible includes these things to do with our fall into sin
ok u made a claim of eight daughter giveme the book , chapter, and veres -----
to understand why u find these accounts u need to understand we as humans have fallen
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@revengeoftheturnip does ever make u wonder the purpose behind the sacrificial covenants, that the old and new testament testafies to
my friend u have no clue about my believes, the perfect man of esus is what was crucified , the divine nature remained alive even after,
this proves u have no clue to who God is and what he is capable of, or what his nature really is, but its no suprise really, u have been lied to many times
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
For All of u confused ppl, plz plz plz go and read Quran once,where Allah SWT (THE CREATOR) challenges any non-beliver to bring or write anitng like it! Its the challenge from "THE GOD" if u got the guts take this challenge or else just b blind! May Allah SWT guide us all.(ameen)
hibibti07 1 year ago
@revengeoftheturnip God
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@revengeoftheturnip and it is the perect huamn that took on flesh and chose to give his life inorder to save a wretched sinner like me
my friend it is this darkness u have found ur self lost in that keeps u fom seeing the glorious light of Christ, he is wait at ur day just let him in, and do not be a fool who would rather believe a man than Go
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@revengeoftheturnip
a ------ he is the God incarnite and he has two nature his in both human nature and devine
b ----- people did not make him die, he chose to die for all mans sin and this is Gods gift to us and that he wants us to be closer to him and what better way is there but fr God to take on our sin and make us right for the lord God our hevenly father
c ----- i do not attribute any weaknesses to him , i do not even wish to tell God what he and can not do, it is God 's place to
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
ooooo allah the deen show with brother zakir naik!!!!!!!! allah theres only one god and mohammed was his messenger, allaaah theres only one god and jesus was his messenger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) salamu alaykum my brothers and sisters all over the world
ajhersi 1 year ago
why did jesus said my father?
whereisthetruth7 1 year ago
@whereisthetruth7 we all speak of God as The Father or Lord. It is to show the universal oneness of God
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah
no my friend, allah denys u the right, he said he is a father to none
and this doesnt just show the oneness of God it actually a lot more, as the father , the son and the spirit are called lord, which by the way is the english word that is ascribed as to the hebrew word yahweh
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
Dr. Zakir Nakir is really an intelligent man.. Allah has guided him to the right path, he will always be one of the ways to spread ISLAM..
let us all read Surah Ikhlas, reading it once, is like reading the 1/3 of the Qur-an, reading it thrice is like reading the whole Qur-an.. Each letter you read in the Qur-an will be rewarded by Allah.. i know you know this, it is just a reminder..
May Allah bless us all..
nicerah1 1 year ago
InshAllah all of the Children will unite not under Islam but under love, the teachings of Isa salalaho alayhi wasallam
InIJah 1 year ago
God's message came to earth in human form known as Jesus Christ. In order to teach mankind one must be an example. That's why he sent Jesus instead of just sending words for scripture.
ArabianBabeFanatic 1 year ago
mashallah
iloveallah22 1 year ago
thx
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TheChrissy48 1 year ago
YES u have misunderstood the word of the bible, I mean come on folks how can u listen to someone who says.. in order to create a DVD player doesn't mean I have to become a DVD player this is Laughable. This guy I am sure is a very nice man, but he has no idea (he's no expert as suggested) what the bible means he is Reading what he WANTS to hear. Lets face it if Jesus would have come RIGHT OUT AND SAID.. I AM GOD who would have believed him??
TheChrissy48 1 year ago
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@TheChrissy48 (contd) This is where the word FAITH comes into it.. Jesus spoke and people believed him. He did things NO OTHER (so called prophet did) he FORGAVE SINS.. he spoke with authority, he CLAIMED THINGS that proved he was not a MAN but he BECAME FLESH AND DWELT amongst us. Its not abt KILLING a man. It was a SYMBOL of GODS love, tht he GAVE his only BEGOTTEN SON to die FOR OUR SIN. SALVATION cannot be obtained WITHOUT belief in this MESSAGE!
TheChrissy48 1 year ago
@TheChri Sir, God is capable to do do Godly things. He does not need to lower down Himself to Human level to know us. He does not punish innocent person for a sinfull person as mentioned in Old Testament. God is the most Mercifull and forgives us as we repent with true heart and turn to Him by obeying His Commandments. Jesus clearly said that he is not good as God and nobody has power to see God as He is invisible. Jesus could clearly say that He was God and all can see him. Just think about it.
TheMasood4724 1 year ago
@TheMasood4724 My goodness, I think TheChri doesn't really see it. These people are so smart but doesn't see that GOD is one. ANd Jesus is human and not the son of God. He's a messenger!!!!
walkonthewildside78 1 year ago
@walkonthewildside78 the trinity has been too engrained in almost every sect of christianity man, even Rastafarian's who take it further than philosophy think H.I.M was Isa (and through trinity God)--ruled by law, converted to Islam--as the last version of Christ--I consider H.I.M. a reincarnation but the last is yet to come. (I do not consider him a Prophet but an important man and reincarnation of the soul of The LOgos). Sad part is most Christians dont hear much else other than trinity
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah
i would say im a closed minded cause i do not believe that there a other ways of getting to God , if God reveals tht salvation can only be obtained by believing in what he has laid out in the sacrifice of his son, an then another revelation comes later and denies these then is God contradiction himsel
or is it prehap a demonic spirit in the late to deny the first, and that consistantly appeal to the first for backing itself
if the first is corrupt as u believe why appal to it
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 i agree u are close minded. show me where it was said believing that Isa (bpuh) is the lit "son of God" every man is God's son and we are all given His powers here on Earth. Isa was a Son of Man not of God. The trinity was defined about 300yrs AFTER Christ. u for some reason think yours is the only way. it may be for you, but others work and think differently. U really think God cares about your specific religion? What about an atheist who keeps 10 commandments?
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah all one ohn my friend and the rest of the bible, john three
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@InIJah now ur going onto atheists, this is a different matter
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@TheChrissy48 that much is clear on two things,
a ----- this guy like a lot of muhammadums has no clue to what he is trying to refute, based upon the trinity , and jesus being the son of God
b ---- and he clearly does not have any idea how to understand our scriptures, as everypoint he raises with certain phrases which in context refutes his distortion of the passages
i wish for once this dr what shall we call him nancy would take up the challenges from our apologists,
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984
brother sam shamoun, david wood, james white, nabeel queshi and even if he is willing tony casa, oand matt slick just to name a few
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984
i mean tony costa, but cos he has not got the balls our apologist r left to refute his claims on video or the net or what ver what they desire
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 you are confuse. think slowly, about the facts. it willcome to you one day insya alllah ;) no worries. May Allah bless you
walkonthewildside78 1 year ago
@walkonthewildside78 sorry i do not think im the one confused, islam is about believing in something with no proof, as in ur prophet, what proof is there is one, nothing but his own words, and that is not valid, what witnesses where there his revelation.... none
even more so, why do he contradict history .... the crucifixin is the best attested fact of history, there no doubting it
and the sha hada is not a real thing, two handred year removed from the prophets time, no eternal bearing,
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 Salaam Aleykum brother in God thank you for your question. Isa (pbuh) was indeed the Logos, or Word (of God) and we can agree on that :) Now, speaking from personal experience, I was Christian and accepted Islam and the Prophet (PBUH) bc it was already my thinking (nontrinitarian) and I feel that the Prophets philosophies were most logical (to me). I am Sufi, so I feel Allah reveals in many ways not just Islam and whichever works best for person in question we r all brothers
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah yes jesu is and was the word of God, and that word became fleshGod the word took on flesh in person of Jesus Christ
God is one nature seen in the person of three, the father, son and the spirit, the son is who became jesus
you say you were a christian, but u were not a triniterrian, so u were a uniterrian christian, i dont class them as true Chrsitians, you can not get by it the bible lead to the tiniterrian veiw , if it is read the way it is shown
brothers , yes in humanity
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 hahaha "true christians"? Who are we to judge who's faith is what? God reveals Himself in various ways to various peoples and to not accept that is close minded. We were all created by God we are all Brothers in Him not in religion but in belief and spirit. I just get muffed bc everybody acts like these are new ideas and as if the Church hasn't decided things on their own but it was there all along. Read about 1st and second nicean councils you'll see what i mean
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah **miffed rather
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah yes agree on the part of God reveals himself i different ways, therefore sine u premitted this statement ---- then i can say God revealed his nature as three persons, and tthen one took on fles as the bible declares
tre Christians ... ll i means is that by the bible u can determine if a christian is true by his actions and his lifestyle, if it does not match to the bibe then they are not Christian, but just wear the name tag
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 no Isa is The Word of God in the Bible. The Word became flesh, not God. Once again I must reiterate to some Christians there is no evidence of God having a "son" in Jesus/Isa pbuh. It does not explicitly say anything of that nature. Isa (pbuh) is the Word of God and spreader, but NOT the son. If Isa was God he would have been able to answer questions in the Bible that he could not. Also if God turns into a man he cant turn back again, because he's a man now, not God.
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah ur wrong my friend, stop acting like u know the bible when u dont
Jesus is the sone of God, he said it himself in all the gospels in one way or another, and john one is saying in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and was God meaning he is God too,
and jesus said time and time again he is the son of God in john five : twenty - three - twenty - six, and john ten : thirty six - thirty seven,
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@InIJah and you have no idea of the power of God, if by saying he can not be a man and go back to being God this shows your ignorance to my belief
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 also pls know that much in Christianity was decided by the chruch (ie Trinity what would b in the biblical cannon, etc) and call anything else "evil". Also if u read original Greek and Amharic of New and Old Testaments respectively, you will find that much has been changed in meaning because of ppl who wanted it to say something else (like King James). Islam allows for interpretation and tolerance as Allah works His Own Ways. Peace and God b with u and ur fam =)
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah Of course, Islam can also indoctrinate bc there are basic things every1 agrees upon. But I just wanted to show I was reasonable and humble.
InIJah 1 year ago
@InIJah here is where the misconception start
one ---- the Church is not an organisation, its a family of believers, unless u mean the catholic side which is more leaning to an organisation
and every thing we come to be lieve in is strictly from the bible teaching not man, the tinity is in the bible not by name but by concept and relational understanding in matthew twenty eight, john chapters forteen - sixteen and more
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@InIJah
two ---- my friend i call evil to what is evil based on what it teaches and implores although i dont believe the whole quran is evil , there certainly is very evilistic tones to my faith and the jewish faith,
i dont call muslims evil either, as that is not true muslims are great people, just some action they take are classed as such like burning churches and difiling and killing christian in other countries
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@InIJah unless there is another thing u men by evil .... plz clarify
nothing has been Change in wide sence of veiw, the king james is a good transalation basd onsome lil things but its based o later manuscripts, even having said this , it is still a good transaltion regardless even though i have one r two, i dont use them
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@InIJah
considering we have a rich heritage of manuscipt we validate the bible we have today --- twenty four thousand plus in total
grqanted not two are identical but they are very simalar, nd on this we can establish what was origanally written to a high degree
it ninety nine . eight percent certainty
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@TheChrissy48 If you research the early church you will find Arianism was actually a popular veiw and won the first council of Nicea until the second unfortunately. Thank you for your respect and I return it with Salaam (peace) but instead of concentrating on differences can we agree the Jesus (pbuh) spread the Word of God?
InIJah 1 year ago
It really doesn't matter how many times these people try to disprove the teachings of Jesus HIMSELF they will fail to GET the fundamental message... You CANNOT get to heaven by doing good works, by praying 5 times a day,by wearing a Hijab, strapping a bomb to ur body in the name of Allah.. or by repeating "peace be upon him" everytime they mention Mohammad/jesus/moses name.. there is only one way and I am not even going to type it here coz its a waste of time.
TheChrissy48 1 year ago
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My friends, the thing that sets Christianity apart from every other religion, and every cult in the world is grace, the “unmerited, unearned, undeserved, favor of God.” And I want you to know, my friends, God’s grace is sufficient.
chutethebull68 1 year ago
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chutethebull68 1 year ago
wow this is very interesting i feel a deeper understanding of Allah and his message god bless.
rihambakhat1991 1 year ago
mashallah, dr zakir naik has excellent memory
iatajik 1 year ago
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mashaallah... zakir.. fucked allah in the "ASS"..
hopo2hopo 1 year ago
Dr Naik is very intelligent and an excellent debator but he repeats himself a lot.
mrahman1992 1 year ago
@mrahman1992 Sir, if somebody repeats truth again and again, should not trouble you if you have courage to accept truth.
TheMasood4724 1 year ago
@TheMasood4724 thanks a lot bro that same question came into my mind and more than the truth i was wondering why this guy is repeating himself.....i am a sinful idiot please pray for me .....cheers.
zairt 1 year ago
@TheMasood4724 Truth lol.
TheChrissy48 1 year ago
@mrahman1992 why dont u go and bring something new out? U r a muslim as well. It is also ur duty not only Zakir Naik's.
arcade1231 1 year ago
Haha I LOVE when DR.Zakir Naik says "If we analyze" cuz you know he will say something cool :D
Destroyticus 1 year ago
MashAllah, I wish I had knowledge like Brother Zakir Naik
lifeinblackandwhitee 1 year ago 18
@lifeinblackandwhitee you shouldn't Wish you should ask Allah(SWT) :)
Allahsarmy 1 year ago
@Allahsarmy insha'Allah I will have knowledge like him. JZK =]
lifeinblackandwhitee 1 year ago
MashAllah, he is so well-informed with all religions.
lifeinblackandwhitee 1 year ago 12
Zakir Naik Is the son of bitch
aamirjohn1986 1 year ago
@aamirjohn1986 u dumshit yos a bitch
HMJokesify 1 year ago
@aamirjohn1986 ,,,,,,,,,,,sorry brother,,,you,christian people can call your mother bitch,sexy,baby............. we cannot,,,,
rubel579 1 year ago
@aamirjohn1986 If you cannot debate him join him in Islam and not just bad mouth him.
mohdjamlimustafa 1 year ago
@aamirjohn1986
If you cannot debate him for the lack of knowledge then join him in Islam.Bad mouthing him only shows you accept the truth he is saying but you cannot accept it.
mohdjamlimustafa 1 year ago
11101ahmed JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD JOHN 3:16 and was with GOD GENESIS 1:26 When GOD said let US make man in OUR IMAGE Who else is with GOD? adam failed,and JESUS offered to come to earth in disguise to die for us.mark 15:34 he felt the fathers prescence leave him as all of the world's sin entered him. "the everlasting life" is for his "sheep" when they die the GURU has spoken.
mog5020 1 year ago
@MuslimByChoice how was man told to represent it, by a lamb, which is a reference to jesus the lamb of God ,
he forgave sin through a sacrifice of a lamb, this was the physical representation of what jesus what do do for all man , 1 time and one time for all
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 if God sent an innocent man to die for the sins of the world then he is a false god ? why becoz the true God is just !? alsso the old testament teaches that no one should for the sins of others ..the idea of the original sin is made up by paul who claimed he had a vision of jesus
MuslimByChoice 1 year ago 4
@MuslimByChoice look its tht od sent an innocent man to die, he sent his son to die for our sin, God showed us his love by giving the one thing ment everything to him, so that we could become close to him once again,
not another attack on paul, e saw a visin jesus, this much is true, and all that followed is too, muhammad saw an angel and u believe in that , but i dont
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 the question what did the angel tell Muhammad? did he tell him that God is three in one, did he tell him that its ok to eat pork although its forbidden in the old testament ( did God change his mind ? ), did he tell him that its ok if you didn't circumcize your male children because what matter is the circumcision of the heart ? ( again did God change his mind? ), do you really think Jesus would approve these things I don't think so
MuslimByChoice 1 year ago 9
@MuslimByChoice intersting, haa, God has been shared by 3 sin day one, the angel that visited muhammad was an angel of light = the devil not God's angel
so ur telling me all didnt know who the trinity consists of , its never ben mary jesus and allah, but more over the father, theson, the spirit
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@MuslimByChoice this is about the old covenant, christians are under the new covenant which consist of Jesus sacrifice
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 brother, which vision of paul are you talking about, because there are actually two contradictory versions of paul's visons. So we could have beleived him but since we do not really know which of his story to beleive.........
hamidabdulmalik 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 if u say that,perhaps God does die
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven no God is one being but not in person there are 3 , the son became a man, and has to natures , the huma nature is what died, whilest the devine remained in tact, s God did not die, but the son who had the nature of a man ad that nature died
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 so god does not die,but his spirit lives,his body's dead,arent we all humans like that?
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven exacly, God's son took on the likeness for one soul purpose to come and give his life up for many, and to ultimately di for our sin
read john 3 : 16 & 17
john 10 : 11, 14 & i5
but on the other note, he was sinless as a human and took away our sins and him being sinless is the sole reason for the miraculous birth
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 but what makes us different, is that we are sinfull by nature
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 it is not enough for jesus to kill himself to pay all the sins of humans..if u compared what jesus in ur book has suffered with what the punishment in hell fire is,its nothing..furthermore,how could people just get away with their sins and let one person take all the punishment.its unfair.what u say is unclear.christianity is unclear and frustrating.
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven sorry, but you have missed the point, God sent him to die the sin, tha is the father plan
compare him to who, there none to compare him too, so don even try, Jesus is our creater the longer u deny him, u deny the father too
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 i cant understand u at all now
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven Jesus was sent to die for our sin, its not a question of eople geting a way with sin, cause onceu give ur life to follow him, and believe in him, the spirit will come upon you and change you as a person and all you want to do is bring glory to the father through doing th workof his son
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 read john 3 : 16-21, ephesians 5 1-14, 2 peter 3- 11,
we are not called to carry o doing the deprived thing of the sinful nature thaat ued inhabit us, cause christ died for our sin, we as christians have been raised up in his love, and must show our selve in light of his teaching and mannaer, this means we can't do things that dishonour God
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 then u still hav ur sin and jesus's death doesnt mean all ur sins are forgiven right..what is the effects of his death on the sins then..?nothing right.he died for nothing or maybe just for demonstration of masochism perhaps.
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven wrong, jesus died every last sin of man, kind, bt the thing u need to know is man can be trapped in in sin if they dont come to jesus to e cleaned, if you come to him you are forgiven and ur sin is no more
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
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@followerofjesus1984 which mean god does die for our sins,so why do we need forgiveness if theres no more sins?i dont understand trapped in a sin while there is no sin
khairuleven 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 u mean only through jesus all the sins will be forgiven?so in order for mankind to be forgiven their sins jesus needs to be crucified,then ask forgiveness from him.what about those who have lived before before jesus's times.they were not forgiven because before that god does not forgive them.thats why it is false that u need jesus's crucifixion to forgive ur sins.
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven yes that is i saying, jesus is the lamb of God, who was ent t take away the sin of the world
but its a two way token, you need to accept him first, cause if you dont you willbe saying your sacrifice of love was worthless, and that i prefer to live in sin
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@khairuleven well his sacrifice was once for all mankind before and after him
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 God says to Jesus go down and be crucified for people's sins but still he does forgive people that ask for forgiveness.why does jesus needs to be crucified for sins if they still need forgiveness from the Lord???
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven look ur confusin too issues, jesus died for our sin
and if we make simple error or mistakes we can ask for forgiveness, for that little thing, but it doesnt effect u in the sence of the sacrifice
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 which mean god does die for our sins,so why do we need forgiveness if theres no more sins?i dont understand trapped in a sin while there is no sin
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven
1 i never sed God died for our sin, i sed that jesus died for our sin, jesus 1 one of person the triune God, when he became a human he had 2 natures human n dedevine and the human died with the sin
if u dont accept im as ur saviour you cary on in sin
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984
2 by accepting Jesus u are cleansed of all the sin, and ur free from sin, and what follows is a new life based on his teachings and manner
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 In ur beliefs,the almighty God was lowering himself for lowly humans.Ur God does not have dignity and pride for himself.
khairuleven 1 year ago
@khairuleven no, in our belelief, hehad so much love for that he wants us to saved and counted as part of his family, he doesnt go for dignity or pride, for this thing can very damaging to oneself
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago