its a shame about the laptop graphics in these damn things.... i would get one if they had better graphics cause this things a beast yo. plus new ones are most likely coming soon with ivy bridge cpus from intel...
There's SSD for yah. They make Macs fast and stuff. Pair an SSD with an already smoking fast OS like Windows 7 Professional and it's just incredible how much faster the system boots and apps launch.
@adlsfreund It's the SSD. Spinning HDD are ancient technology limited by the laws of physics. SSDs use solid state memory chips that have no moving parts so they are faster. They can access data all over the drive near instantly, as opposed to regular drives that have problems if one file is at the beginning of the drive and another is at the end of the drive, or the file is fragmented.
@setite thanks, although i'm sure that SSDs still abide by the laws of physics
another question just came up for me: while launching programs a.s.o. is a lot faster here, wont accessing files with those programs be noticeably slower, assuming that you put your files on an external, non-SSD drive? (since if i had a 64GB SSD and i have 500+ apps, i can't fit all my files on it too)
so is having an SSD not actually all that awesome, if your files open slower? (until we can get 1TB SSDs for cheap)
@adlsfreund SSDs do follow the laws of physics. But they don't deal with the laws regarding physical movement, just the laws pertaining to electricity.
Files accessed on non-SSD will be the usual speed, maybe faster since the OS has less trouble running. A 60GB SSD could be a problem, but I can get most of my stuff on a 120GB SSD. You will quickly learn what apps benefit from an SSD and what don't. Like I put games/music/movies on a regular HDD.
Also consider that your virtual ram paging file will be on the SSD and essentially your virtual ram will be almost as fast as your real ram since they are similar technologies. Your OS will boot faster, your core apps will load faster and work faster. Your browser will open quickly. It is my opinion that current top hardware is almost a waste of money without an SSD to utilize the speeds.
I have never met someone who regretted an SSD. DO what I did. Build a new PC without it, use it for a week. Then buy an SSD and move the OS to it, and then be amazed at the difference. That is what I did. It is subjective but borders on scientific evidence.
@adlsfreund Agreed. The price hurts. I'm about to build a hackintosh rig with two OCZ Vertex 3 120GB drives, one for win7 one for os x and I can feel in between the cheeks. However, I don't want to partition an SSD because I already erased the whole thing once during a late night hackintosh install. My GTX470 doesn't like OS X so I'm building a whole new PC with a AMD 6870 :).
Looks like about $3K, if you look at the 27" iMac Apple configurator. I'd personally wait and buy the other 8GB or RAM later. The SSD option comes with a 1TB drive for $100 more, so no problem editing movies. No problem editing them on a 250GB SSD, even if that's the only drive. That's lots of hours of HD source video, not that you couldn't buy that external thunderbolt RAID that they sell right below it for your 'serious' video editing.
It cracks me up reading some of the spelling and grammar of these comments. Why does building your own machine make it better? its like taking parts from all different auto makers and trying to make them run with the worlds shittiest engine, the engine being Windows. Seems to make a whole hell of a lot more sense to have hardware designed for the OS. Not to mention what more does the typical PC user need out of a computer that even the entry level iMac doesn't have?
Mac isnt made for gaming. Lets all accept that and move on. Can you game on mac? Yes. Tf2, Portal Series, Half Life Series, Minecraft, etc. You can game on it sure, but thats not what its made for. Its made for people who want reliable easy to use products.
Well I was a PC guy for years, and I always snubbed my nose at Macs, but most IT people I know own them. Why, because they are tired all day long fixing crappy PC machines that run a not so good OS. And yes you can game on these, but I would rather do it on a Wii/PS3 and XBox so I don't become a lard ass. ;)
Why do bring up games when arguing about Macs. Creative people, Artistic people or just people that have wonderful imaginations buy Mac computers not gamers. So any criticism to do with what games are out for the Mac is a void argument . If I do feel in the mood for gaming I have a PS3.
@ShutUpAndListen79 What would drive creative and artistic people to purchase a Mac? It's not like any industry-standard tools aren't available on multiple OS's.
I order this BTO Mac 7 weeks ago, and finally arrived arrived last week (6 long weeks wait!), and I can tell you that this video is no fake as some claim; it IS that fast! Worth the wait! I also loaded Windows on a partition so I can use with with VMware fusion, but let me say that I use the Mac OSX 90% of the time; I only use windows for one specialty software that can only run on Windows, and games.
Loving all the angry comments from windows enthusiasts on this video. And they say mac users are the ones that obnoxiously try and convert you to their platform of choice...
@lacamaradetodd Tried a Mac, didn't like it. Shitty interface in my opinion. Sure it's probably easier for people that doesn't know how to handle a PC properly. But still, you can do this with a Windows computer just as fast and for a cheaper price. I prefer Windows and will never switch but I'm more into gaming also and everything doesn't work on a Mac anyway.
@TheChawan At least for me it's not about not knowing how to handle a PC, it's about not wanting to deal with all the shit that comes with Windows. Call me lazy, but I'm just tired of of viruses, bluescreens, weird error messages and the like (been a PC user for ~9 years). I run Windows only for gaming, for everything else I do (95% of all time) I'm on Mac OS X. For all that simplicity and design, I am absolutely willing to pay the premium price. Now go find just one of these in a Windows world.
@n3x4k lol You really are lazy. I have never gotten a virus. EVER. I don't even need virus protection because I know how to protect myself from such things. Not that hard and just common sense. FYI Macs can get viruses, too. Also, I have only gotten the BSOD once. That's the oldest and most retarded argument I've heard to date. That one time I got it was when I overclocked my processor (which you can barely do on a mac) a little more than it could handle. (PC user for ~16 years) lrn2PC
@8BitPerception Yes and I'm requiring proof for your claim, to believe it as truth. You can definitely get malware for Mac OS X, if you give a random app permission to access system files for example. You might want to check your definition of virus. I'm using W7 and I must say I'm very pleased. It sucks a bit that I have to scan for anti-viruses and you get all this crap pre-installed from the PC manufacturer that is unusable, and apps that think they have the right to make changes for you.
I think that Mac users overate Mac OS X a bit too much. Mac Laptops are amazing though, and actually value for money, as they hold their values for so much longer. But when you only have £300/$500, a W7 laptop does the job very nicely and gets you to the same place as a Macbook, except you'll need to have access to electricity after 1 hour, when the battery is drained and it's not as nice of an experience, and that surpisingly means alot when we're glued to PCs for hours every day.
@tony8999 Macs are about the same price as PCs. Assuming you compare PCs with equivalent components, and equivalent everything (IE not build it yourself PCs).
If you want a shit PC, sure you can get one for cheap. But people who pay to get a nice PC, could spend that same money and get a mac.
@noobenstein your comments shows you know nothing about pc's. Macs are abot the same price as pc"
I want you to take a minute and go into apples website and check the price of a Mac pro.
The cheapest one is 2.5k and check the specs and that Mac. You could ask any decent Pc user in here for 2.5k they would be able the build a monster pc with a good SSD drive any day for that kind of money.
So please noobstein, ive read your previous comments. It shows that you are nothing more then a Mac fanB
@eyeAMtwinkEE I build my own PCs but you are the exact type of PC owner I despise. The ones that act as if everyone should be building their own, and if it isn't prebuilt, its trash. Windows and Mac would be out of business if "all prebuilts were shit".. dont you think? Rhetorical question, not interested in your opinion. Get off your high horse, fanboy.
@WinFailure People buy them because they either don't know it's possible, or think it's far too difficult. Buying prebuilt has the advantage over nearly ever aspect of prebuilt computers.
@tony8999 I'm planning to buy this, I already put one together on the apple store to check the price: 3,399.00$ .. so that's an ok price for a beast like this.
@tony8999 you're paying for quality. Coming from a computer science major I can tell you no professors in the department us anything other than Mac. Same goes for 90% of the students
@CGagnon5 How does it feel knowing you went to a shitty school? I've shadowed at multiple CS lectures at MIT, Stanford, Harvard, and other top-tier CS schools. They all use Windows or Linux.
OS X and Windows both have their advantages and disadvantages. You choose which ones you want to deal with. There is a reason Windows and Mac are still existing companies. They both have good products that are tailored for different types of users.
Most of you are just stupid. You are arguing about Mac and PC when the thing that makes this computer fast is the SSD. I am a PC and Windows user because I like the customization that it offers but it is all about opinion. Windows gets slower over time because it lets you mess it up, but that is what you sacrifice for customization. Just stop this stupid war and don't shove your opinionated arrogant DICK in other peoples faces.
@Goobermascot There's only one thing to blame for the slowing down over time - the crappy OS architecture of Windows. You don't need to customize and hack around in your Windows installation to slow it down. Just do what an average user does - install applications, uninstall applications. Because Windows gathers all the data from that in one central place and stupidly loads all that at all times (combined w/the fact that not everything gets removed when you uninstall an app), it slows down.
@eyeAMtwinkEE I did not mention any other OSes other than Windows and OS X, but I implied that OS X does a way better job there. Of course apps create poop on the system too, but you can find all those files easily because they're all sorted in pre-created OS folders intended to hold exactly those files, and they don't slow down the computer - they don't get loaded each boot. For startup items, there is a dead-simple "official" way to manage them.
@n3x4k It takes two clicks for me to clear my startup programs on Windows. It would be nice if, for instance, it allowed me to set the programs I want on startup when I set up the OS, and then when I try to install something that wanted to add itself to the list, it would ask me.
@eyeAMtwinkEE with the difference that you don't clear everything with these two clicks. Startup programs in Windows nest themselves also in different locations in the registry, and changing something in there takes way more time and knowledge. In OS X, there actually is some way like that too, but unless you use administrator or root rights and the Terminal, nothing gets there. No apps use this way, it's reserved for sysadmins and geeks who want to manually fiddle around.
@n3x4k Except that I do clear everything in those two clicks. I'm not stupid. The terminal is the only part I really love out of OSX, but I just use Linux instead.
Only ones first Mac is expensive. Any new Mac you upgrade to in the future will only cost a couple of hundred ponds or dollars as you can get 80% of your money back when you sell your old Apple hardware. Buy a PC for 800 £ $ and see in two years if you can get 750 back . I doubt it.Your luck if you get 20% of your money back with a PC which means getting a new machine costs more in the long run I think. Getting a Mac iis cheaper in the long run.
Aaaaaan, a PC can do this just as fast or even faster but for a lot cheaper price and come with upgradeability and way more customization then a Mac will ever come with. Oh, forgott, PC can actully run all games:O
My mac pro is really fast after i removed disc drive and put ssd in it. Can almost keep up with that but i also have cs5 premiere which slows it down a lil bit... Would like to see him do that with cs5 premiere...
@noobenstein Oh come on now, so you heard about overclocking and tell the other guy he doesn't have a cpu running at 3.7 Ghz becuase it's impossible. Screw you, you just want to argue or are retarded :P
@snoopy210190 No, you just want to argue. and are retarded. :)
He was comparing apples vs oranges. I was looking at commercially availble stuff. You know, the stuff most ordinary normal people can buy.
Just because one arrogant lying asshole can overclock his CPU after buying the fastest CPU t he time and then install a massive cooling system... doesn't mean the 99.99% of other PC users can be ignored. You know, the guys who had to put up with 2.5ghz PCs, like me.
@noobenstein No offense but knowing how to overclock doesn't make you an arrogant lying asshole. It seems you have missed the point of overclocking. The true nature of overclocking is buying an average or budget item and making it perform like or above a high-end one. Of course you will get captain moneybags buying the best stuff out there and overclocking that but almost no overclocker does not have enough money and they overclock within their means. Don't generalise us.
@NAMkiller Overclocking an already energy intensive CPU, from 2.5hgz to 3.7... seems like something you'd need to get an even more powerful cooling gear for. I may be wrong.
@snoopy210190 Only someone retarded who just wanted to argue would ignore the situation for 99.99% of people just to say everyone else is wrong.
It's like me saying "well sure vietnamese people are taller than Americans, look the tallest basketball player is vietnamese".
It doesn't prove a fucking thing, and also its fucking STUPID to ignore most people you see around you. So YOU are the one who just wants to argue. AND you are a hypocrit for calling me than when you are it and I'm not.
@popboard There's one part of your argument which i don't really like. PC does not equal Windows, come on now. The hardware in both PC's and Mac's is the same and will both run perfectly fine after 3 years of use. The only difference is the price tag. Operating systems, however, well that's a completely different debate. Linux PC *wink wink nudge nudge* :P
@noobenstein By the way, Intel Core i7-990X Processor can run stable at 4.7GHz... Check 3dMark hall of fame scores, they have some mad processor clock results there (over 6 Ghz), though those setups will not run stable for long i'm afraid, still pretty nice though, check it out.
Apple is constantly amazing me with their amazing advertising techniques. They manage to sell standard PC's for a large amount more than other PC developing companies sell them for and about twice the price it would be to build your own. Advertising geniuses if you ask me, kings of repeat customers (for newer versions!) Just amazing. -No sarcasm here, I don't like Apple products because I have half a brain but boy would I love to have their marketing team behind me if I had a PC business.
And if any of you Microsoft suckers knew anything about programming and development or computing efficiency -- your argument wouldn't be Windows is better, it would be: Linux is better.
rofl, i could spend shit loads buying a laptop or i can spend shit loads buying a better laptop, mac isnt the best laptop out there, and there are a lot more better laptops than mac with the same price...
It would be like buying a pen for twice the cost of a normal one just cuz u can....
@K3VY8295 So you're telling me you load Windows 7 onto that iMac and you should be able to open all the Windows apps at once, that quickly? Interesting. I have a brand new server grade quad-core machine with 12 GB of RAM and can barely open Outlook and Chrome simultaneously without the windows going transparent and 'not responding.' Go buy a PC right now and a Mac right now and wait 3 years -- you'll see your PC barely functioning and the Mac functioning as it did the day you got it: perfectly.
@popboard haha your one step too late ;) I already own a MBP 15in that cost the same as my i7 970 desktop running 2 SSDs in raid 0. The desktop boots twice as fast and can load a equivalent amount of apps and more faster than you can load this web page :) Been using both for 1 year and the MBP just can't handle video editing software like my desktop can, same with multitasking with everyday usage. Not starting a fight here or any thing, just point it out :P
@K3VY8295 meh I guess, I think it comes down to how you maintain it. I just think, from personal experience, than Apple computers require less CPU to run smoothly than Windows machines. But we're all entitled to our opinion (glad to see you're not a troll) :)
@fatsug50 I'm not mad. You just proved my point. Mac computers require less CPU power than PC's to perform just as efficient. That machine is almost a full GHz faster that the Mac shown here. And you honestly think that loading MS Solitaire, Notepad and Windows Media Player is the same as loading feature loaded iPhoto, Garage Band, iMovie, iDVD and the other 20+ heavy Mac applications? Thats funny. Show me two computers, similar specs, one Mac, one Windows and load CS5 at once. You'll see :)
@fatsug50 But if you actually started to use all those applications at once Windows would start to "bog down."
If Apple wasn't so controlling and allowed you to install their OS on any kind of hardware, like Windows, it would be no competition. I wish someone with a superfast 'Hackintosh' would post a video.
My main/most used PC is Windows so don't tell me i'm a Mac/Apple fanboy. My laptop is a MacBook Pro, because when I don't have time to fiddle w/ Windows on the go; OS X takes care of me.
@fatsug50 Don't want to debate or anything, and I'm not saying PCs can't do similar things, but from my first impression, it seems that the Windows apps that were launched were generally smaller than most of the Mac apps.
@popboard u clearly dont know what ure talking about... If someone knows how to take care of his/hers computer that shit wont happened. PC's are cheaper, works better with the same amount of hardware and gives more freedom. All it takes is a little brain to operate it and from what i notice i've seen that a lot of people in america use macs, i dont find it to be surprising at all having in mind what i just said.
@Lorkin32 youre saying he has no idea what hes talking about when you just made this comment? the only think you got right in your comment was windows based machines are cheaper, and thats becoming less and less true. works better? yea right, several tech sites benched windows performance on mac and similar pc hardware but mac out performed every competitor. also if you knew anything about server management youd know unix (which is what bsd is based on) is a lot more lightweight than windows
@popboard My 2-year old PC launches apps this fast so yours could do it too. Ofc i have a fast SSD drive in my machine just like the one in the video has. Its not the OS that makes app launching fast, its the SSD drive.
mac ftw, i have an old ssd drive in a netbook from a few years ago now, so what?! they haven't been big enough to be cost effective enough to use as a main drive on a desktop machine until now, i used to slag off apple until i tried to make music with windows,, big mistake, logic/PT on mac pwns any of that crap on windows, can you make an aggregate audio device yet?!
Shame it's using laptop graphics though...
sno0kenvah 3 weeks ago
its a shame about the laptop graphics in these damn things.... i would get one if they had better graphics cause this things a beast yo. plus new ones are most likely coming soon with ivy bridge cpus from intel...
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beven33 1 month ago
Yeah but it's still using laptop graphics.
ryangamv8 1 month ago
There's SSD for yah. They make Macs fast and stuff. Pair an SSD with an already smoking fast OS like Windows 7 Professional and it's just incredible how much faster the system boots and apps launch.
NicholasDaMally 1 month ago
The satisfaction of having a Solid State Drive :( I QQ at the thought I don't have one for my rig
Rachelchao1 1 month ago
holy shit :)
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Good day! nice video~
i have some questions about the ssd's
where do you install de OS.. in HD or SSD??
And so with other programs.. do you install them in HD or SSD in order to run faster??
So what do you do exctly with your 1TB HD??
thanks!
dudwls86 3 months ago
Now what....
VinLoPlus2 3 months ago
Sooo badass. What an incredible computer.
jenniferzelnick 3 months ago 4
can someone tell me what is making such great performance possible here? is the SSD the most responsible? or the CPU speed or the RAM?
adlsfreund 4 months ago
@adlsfreund It's the SSD. Spinning HDD are ancient technology limited by the laws of physics. SSDs use solid state memory chips that have no moving parts so they are faster. They can access data all over the drive near instantly, as opposed to regular drives that have problems if one file is at the beginning of the drive and another is at the end of the drive, or the file is fragmented.
setite 4 months ago
@setite thanks, although i'm sure that SSDs still abide by the laws of physics
another question just came up for me: while launching programs a.s.o. is a lot faster here, wont accessing files with those programs be noticeably slower, assuming that you put your files on an external, non-SSD drive? (since if i had a 64GB SSD and i have 500+ apps, i can't fit all my files on it too)
so is having an SSD not actually all that awesome, if your files open slower? (until we can get 1TB SSDs for cheap)
adlsfreund 4 months ago
@adlsfreund SSDs do follow the laws of physics. But they don't deal with the laws regarding physical movement, just the laws pertaining to electricity.
Files accessed on non-SSD will be the usual speed, maybe faster since the OS has less trouble running. A 60GB SSD could be a problem, but I can get most of my stuff on a 120GB SSD. You will quickly learn what apps benefit from an SSD and what don't. Like I put games/music/movies on a regular HDD.
setite 4 months ago
Also consider that your virtual ram paging file will be on the SSD and essentially your virtual ram will be almost as fast as your real ram since they are similar technologies. Your OS will boot faster, your core apps will load faster and work faster. Your browser will open quickly. It is my opinion that current top hardware is almost a waste of money without an SSD to utilize the speeds.
setite 4 months ago
I have never met someone who regretted an SSD. DO what I did. Build a new PC without it, use it for a week. Then buy an SSD and move the OS to it, and then be amazed at the difference. That is what I did. It is subjective but borders on scientific evidence.
setite 4 months ago
@setite thanks for sharing your insight with me!
the only bottleneck in SSDs, i guess, is their cost :(
adlsfreund 4 months ago
@adlsfreund Agreed. The price hurts. I'm about to build a hackintosh rig with two OCZ Vertex 3 120GB drives, one for win7 one for os x and I can feel in between the cheeks. However, I don't want to partition an SSD because I already erased the whole thing once during a late night hackintosh install. My GTX470 doesn't like OS X so I'm building a whole new PC with a AMD 6870 :).
setite 4 months ago
@setite i admire people's ability to build their own computers. have fun with it!
adlsfreund 4 months ago
@mreaperz
If you noticed the quotes, I was actually mocking an earlier quote.
jessops666 4 months ago
i can't wait until ssds get bigger and cheaper.
MoldytoasterMedia 4 months ago
Looks like about $3K, if you look at the 27" iMac Apple configurator. I'd personally wait and buy the other 8GB or RAM later. The SSD option comes with a 1TB drive for $100 more, so no problem editing movies. No problem editing them on a 250GB SSD, even if that's the only drive. That's lots of hours of HD source video, not that you couldn't buy that external thunderbolt RAID that they sell right below it for your 'serious' video editing.
pingnak 6 months ago
For all you Windows lovers out there all I can say is 2 things, Windows Me and Windows Vista.
jessops666 7 months ago
@winfailure said "Buying prebuilt has the advantage over nearly ever aspect of prebuilt computers."
This statement makes no sense
jessops666 7 months ago
It cracks me up reading some of the spelling and grammar of these comments. Why does building your own machine make it better? its like taking parts from all different auto makers and trying to make them run with the worlds shittiest engine, the engine being Windows. Seems to make a whole hell of a lot more sense to have hardware designed for the OS. Not to mention what more does the typical PC user need out of a computer that even the entry level iMac doesn't have?
jessops666 7 months ago
Imac > PC
steveprs 7 months ago
some people like macs, some people like pcs. Get over it
kalevader 7 months ago
And now we let pc do the same thing but faster and 3 times cheaper! /watch?v=SQUzaIIa7dg
goodigel151151 7 months ago
Gentlemen, this is the magic of SSD!
meshal1986 7 months ago
THREE POINT FOUR GIGAMAHERTZ? IVE NEVER EVEN HERD OF ONE OF DEM GIGEMHERTZZ BEFORE
Bubbapillz 7 months ago
Mac isnt made for gaming. Lets all accept that and move on. Can you game on mac? Yes. Tf2, Portal Series, Half Life Series, Minecraft, etc. You can game on it sure, but thats not what its made for. Its made for people who want reliable easy to use products.
idiotsofvideo 7 months ago
@idiotsofvideo That's nice. Luckily for me, I have a reliable easy to use computer (that I happen to currently be typing from) that also plays games.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
Is that overclocked?
Whitefang8128 8 months ago
Can someone tell me why just about all mac users are fucking retarded fanboys?
thedausthed 8 months ago
Well I was a PC guy for years, and I always snubbed my nose at Macs, but most IT people I know own them. Why, because they are tired all day long fixing crappy PC machines that run a not so good OS. And yes you can game on these, but I would rather do it on a Wii/PS3 and XBox so I don't become a lard ass. ;)
WardClan888 8 months ago
just tried this on my 15" quad core mbp, 7200rpm HDD, 8 GB of ram, the best graphics chips apple had. Did not go well.
Evanmileus 8 months ago
Why do bring up games when arguing about Macs. Creative people, Artistic people or just people that have wonderful imaginations buy Mac computers not gamers. So any criticism to do with what games are out for the Mac is a void argument . If I do feel in the mood for gaming I have a PS3.
ShutUpAndListen79 8 months ago
@ShutUpAndListen79 you don't need to be creative to want a mac, just tired of shitty window / microsoft products.
Hardware is always one step ahead on PC's, but good hardware doesn't mean shit if the OS is buggy / broken. I totally agree with the gaming point.
smausetrap 7 months ago
@smausetrap Both Mac's and PC's are made of the exact same hardware in the exact same sweatshops in Taiwan.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@ShutUpAndListen79 What would drive creative and artistic people to purchase a Mac? It's not like any industry-standard tools aren't available on multiple OS's.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
but can it play crysis?
Antphoneigh 8 months ago
I order this BTO Mac 7 weeks ago, and finally arrived arrived last week (6 long weeks wait!), and I can tell you that this video is no fake as some claim; it IS that fast! Worth the wait! I also loaded Windows on a partition so I can use with with VMware fusion, but let me say that I use the Mac OSX 90% of the time; I only use windows for one specialty software that can only run on Windows, and games.
slimdusty96 8 months ago
So I made my 5 year old pc able to do that
speedemon574 8 months ago
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h2inuyasha2 8 months ago
Loving all the angry comments from windows enthusiasts on this video. And they say mac users are the ones that obnoxiously try and convert you to their platform of choice...
DJblastyfone 8 months ago
@DJblastyfone It's funny because fanboys from both camps are the exact same.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@lacamaradetodd Tried a Mac, didn't like it. Shitty interface in my opinion. Sure it's probably easier for people that doesn't know how to handle a PC properly. But still, you can do this with a Windows computer just as fast and for a cheaper price. I prefer Windows and will never switch but I'm more into gaming also and everything doesn't work on a Mac anyway.
TheChawan 8 months ago 2
@TheChawan At least for me it's not about not knowing how to handle a PC, it's about not wanting to deal with all the shit that comes with Windows. Call me lazy, but I'm just tired of of viruses, bluescreens, weird error messages and the like (been a PC user for ~9 years). I run Windows only for gaming, for everything else I do (95% of all time) I'm on Mac OS X. For all that simplicity and design, I am absolutely willing to pay the premium price. Now go find just one of these in a Windows world.
n3x4k 8 months ago
@n3x4k lol You really are lazy. I have never gotten a virus. EVER. I don't even need virus protection because I know how to protect myself from such things. Not that hard and just common sense. FYI Macs can get viruses, too. Also, I have only gotten the BSOD once. That's the oldest and most retarded argument I've heard to date. That one time I got it was when I overclocked my processor (which you can barely do on a mac) a little more than it could handle. (PC user for ~16 years) lrn2PC
8BitPerception 8 months ago
@8BitPerception: "I don't even need virus protection because I know how to protect myself from such things."
^^^ Isn't virus protection one way to protect yourself from such things?
"I don't need safety gloves, because I'm Homer SimpsGAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"
r3b3l5cum 8 months ago
@r3b3l5cum
I'm sorry. I'm just at a lost for words on how to respond to such a stupid fucking comment.
8BitPerception 8 months ago
@8BitPerception I'm sorry you're at such a lost. That must be frustratint.
r3b3l5cum 8 months ago
@r3b3l5cum
It is. It's totally frustratint.
8BitPerception 8 months ago 2
@8BitPerception "macs can get viruses, too" CLAIM!
CopellaMonster 7 months ago
@CopellaMonster Are you implying that they don't?
8BitPerception 7 months ago
@8BitPerception Yes and I'm requiring proof for your claim, to believe it as truth. You can definitely get malware for Mac OS X, if you give a random app permission to access system files for example. You might want to check your definition of virus. I'm using W7 and I must say I'm very pleased. It sucks a bit that I have to scan for anti-viruses and you get all this crap pre-installed from the PC manufacturer that is unusable, and apps that think they have the right to make changes for you.
CopellaMonster 7 months ago
I think that Mac users overate Mac OS X a bit too much. Mac Laptops are amazing though, and actually value for money, as they hold their values for so much longer. But when you only have £300/$500, a W7 laptop does the job very nicely and gets you to the same place as a Macbook, except you'll need to have access to electricity after 1 hour, when the battery is drained and it's not as nice of an experience, and that surpisingly means alot when we're glued to PCs for hours every day.
CopellaMonster 7 months ago
@TheChawan "Sure it's probably easier for people that doesn't know how to handle a PC properly." priceless
jessops666 7 months ago
@jessops666 " People that doesn't know". I hope that your PC has a good corrector.
MrEAPerez1 4 months ago
I just said WOW and HOLY SHIT very loudly in my apartment. Sorry, sleeping neighbors.
creolefreak22 8 months ago
Fake.
rasmus9311 8 months ago
@rasmus9311 wrong
jessops666 7 months ago
do these imacs have trim support?
darkside97 8 months ago
@darkside97 Coming with Lion next month I believe.
rastamanCulture 8 months ago
Install Microsoft Office, than we'll see how fast the mac will stay :D
lazfatih61 8 months ago 2
It took the Intel X25-M 80GB SSD 1 second to launch 25 apps and it took the Mac about 5 seconds.... clearly the Mac is the winner...
theDECENTswe 8 months ago
oh... my... god.
kHalmi 8 months ago
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popboard 8 months ago
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Holy Shit!
MrGuidogenio 8 months ago
Holy Shit!
MrGuidogenio 8 months ago
yes because you really need to open all programs at once.
mollemannen 8 months ago
fastest mac available? what about the 12 core mac pro?
B3ansGuy 8 months ago
Dont worry you guys this Mac can be yours for only 3 easy payments of 19 999$
and your first born child.
tony8999 8 months ago 65
@tony8999 Macs are about the same price as PCs. Assuming you compare PCs with equivalent components, and equivalent everything (IE not build it yourself PCs).
If you want a shit PC, sure you can get one for cheap. But people who pay to get a nice PC, could spend that same money and get a mac.
noobenstein 8 months ago
@noobenstein your comments shows you know nothing about pc's. Macs are abot the same price as pc"
I want you to take a minute and go into apples website and check the price of a Mac pro.
The cheapest one is 2.5k and check the specs and that Mac. You could ask any decent Pc user in here for 2.5k they would be able the build a monster pc with a good SSD drive any day for that kind of money.
So please noobstein, ive read your previous comments. It shows that you are nothing more then a Mac fanB
tony8999 8 months ago
@noobenstein All prebuilts are shit, whether it's a Mac or Windows product.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@eyeAMtwinkEE I build my own PCs but you are the exact type of PC owner I despise. The ones that act as if everyone should be building their own, and if it isn't prebuilt, its trash. Windows and Mac would be out of business if "all prebuilts were shit".. dont you think? Rhetorical question, not interested in your opinion. Get off your high horse, fanboy.
WinFailure 7 months ago
@WinFailure People buy them because they either don't know it's possible, or think it's far too difficult. Buying prebuilt has the advantage over nearly ever aspect of prebuilt computers.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@tony8999 I'm planning to buy this, I already put one together on the apple store to check the price: 3,399.00$ .. so that's an ok price for a beast like this.
keysessions 8 months ago
@keysessions $4,000?!?!?! You can build a sub $1,000 computer that can do this.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@tony8999 you're paying for quality. Coming from a computer science major I can tell you no professors in the department us anything other than Mac. Same goes for 90% of the students
CGagnon5 8 months ago
@CGagnon5 How does it feel knowing you went to a shitty school? I've shadowed at multiple CS lectures at MIT, Stanford, Harvard, and other top-tier CS schools. They all use Windows or Linux.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@tony8999 No, it costs 1 not so easy payment of $2,529.00 (with student discount taking off around $150)
matthewsmattsmac8 6 months ago
OS X and Windows both have their advantages and disadvantages. You choose which ones you want to deal with. There is a reason Windows and Mac are still existing companies. They both have good products that are tailored for different types of users.
Goobermascot 8 months ago 9
Most of you are just stupid. You are arguing about Mac and PC when the thing that makes this computer fast is the SSD. I am a PC and Windows user because I like the customization that it offers but it is all about opinion. Windows gets slower over time because it lets you mess it up, but that is what you sacrifice for customization. Just stop this stupid war and don't shove your opinionated arrogant DICK in other peoples faces.
Goobermascot 8 months ago 7
@Goobermascot There's only one thing to blame for the slowing down over time - the crappy OS architecture of Windows. You don't need to customize and hack around in your Windows installation to slow it down. Just do what an average user does - install applications, uninstall applications. Because Windows gathers all the data from that in one central place and stupidly loads all that at all times (combined w/the fact that not everything gets removed when you uninstall an app), it slows down.
n3x4k 8 months ago
@n3x4k What? Are you implying that other OS's don't do the exact same thing?
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@eyeAMtwinkEE I did not mention any other OSes other than Windows and OS X, but I implied that OS X does a way better job there. Of course apps create poop on the system too, but you can find all those files easily because they're all sorted in pre-created OS folders intended to hold exactly those files, and they don't slow down the computer - they don't get loaded each boot. For startup items, there is a dead-simple "official" way to manage them.
n3x4k 7 months ago
@n3x4k It takes two clicks for me to clear my startup programs on Windows. It would be nice if, for instance, it allowed me to set the programs I want on startup when I set up the OS, and then when I try to install something that wanted to add itself to the list, it would ask me.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@eyeAMtwinkEE with the difference that you don't clear everything with these two clicks. Startup programs in Windows nest themselves also in different locations in the registry, and changing something in there takes way more time and knowledge. In OS X, there actually is some way like that too, but unless you use administrator or root rights and the Terminal, nothing gets there. No apps use this way, it's reserved for sysadmins and geeks who want to manually fiddle around.
n3x4k 7 months ago
@n3x4k Except that I do clear everything in those two clicks. I'm not stupid. The terminal is the only part I really love out of OSX, but I just use Linux instead.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
Only ones first Mac is expensive. Any new Mac you upgrade to in the future will only cost a couple of hundred ponds or dollars as you can get 80% of your money back when you sell your old Apple hardware. Buy a PC for 800 £ $ and see in two years if you can get 750 back . I doubt it.Your luck if you get 20% of your money back with a PC which means getting a new machine costs more in the long run I think. Getting a Mac iis cheaper in the long run.
ShutUpAndListen79 8 months ago 2
@ShutUpAndListen79 this is s brilliant point and applies to iphones too! their resale value is phenomenal!
incogenator 8 months ago 4
@ShutUpAndListen79 This may apply where you live but not in most of the world.
PROLIM1T 8 months ago
Why do they buy MACs again?
AndresChileCL 8 months ago
for the same money that you paid for that iMac, i could buy a PC that launch more apps in less time for sure
AaronBKN 8 months ago
Whops ----> /watch?v=SQUzaIIa7dg
Oh! Did I make this video pointless!? =D
ZombieHorror666 8 months ago 6
Aaaaaan, a PC can do this just as fast or even faster but for a lot cheaper price and come with upgradeability and way more customization then a Mac will ever come with. Oh, forgott, PC can actully run all games:O
TheChawan 8 months ago
why would you need to open so many apps at once? LOL
MuayThai4Llfe 8 months ago
IVY BRIDGE!
cwbh10 8 months ago
holy banana...
dasBaum95 8 months ago
My mac pro is really fast after i removed disc drive and put ssd in it. Can almost keep up with that but i also have cs5 premiere which slows it down a lil bit... Would like to see him do that with cs5 premiere...
wideopendrifting 8 months ago
ive seen a vid where the pc has 24ssd drives running and also opens 53 programs in 18 secs.
betaversion089 8 months ago
@noobenstein Oh come on now, so you heard about overclocking and tell the other guy he doesn't have a cpu running at 3.7 Ghz becuase it's impossible. Screw you, you just want to argue or are retarded :P
snoopy210190 8 months ago
@snoopy210190 No, you just want to argue. and are retarded. :)
He was comparing apples vs oranges. I was looking at commercially availble stuff. You know, the stuff most ordinary normal people can buy.
Just because one arrogant lying asshole can overclock his CPU after buying the fastest CPU t he time and then install a massive cooling system... doesn't mean the 99.99% of other PC users can be ignored. You know, the guys who had to put up with 2.5ghz PCs, like me.
noobenstein 8 months ago
@noobenstein No offense but knowing how to overclock doesn't make you an arrogant lying asshole. It seems you have missed the point of overclocking. The true nature of overclocking is buying an average or budget item and making it perform like or above a high-end one. Of course you will get captain moneybags buying the best stuff out there and overclocking that but almost no overclocker does not have enough money and they overclock within their means. Don't generalise us.
NAMkiller 8 months ago
@NAMkiller Overclocking an already energy intensive CPU, from 2.5hgz to 3.7... seems like something you'd need to get an even more powerful cooling gear for. I may be wrong.
Maybe we are all being fleeced?
noobenstein 8 months ago
@NAMkiller you have no idea what overclocking means, i dont understand what you were trying to say here hahaha
BearJewBeatdown 8 months ago
@snoopy210190 Only someone retarded who just wanted to argue would ignore the situation for 99.99% of people just to say everyone else is wrong.
It's like me saying "well sure vietnamese people are taller than Americans, look the tallest basketball player is vietnamese".
It doesn't prove a fucking thing, and also its fucking STUPID to ignore most people you see around you. So YOU are the one who just wants to argue. AND you are a hypocrit for calling me than when you are it and I'm not.
noobenstein 8 months ago
WOW!!!!! THAT WAS FAST!!!!!!
Jokesalot96 8 months ago
Powerful computer!
KCting95 8 months ago
@popboard There's one part of your argument which i don't really like. PC does not equal Windows, come on now. The hardware in both PC's and Mac's is the same and will both run perfectly fine after 3 years of use. The only difference is the price tag. Operating systems, however, well that's a completely different debate. Linux PC *wink wink nudge nudge* :P
snoopy210190 8 months ago 2
@noobenstein By the way, Intel Core i7-990X Processor can run stable at 4.7GHz... Check 3dMark hall of fame scores, they have some mad processor clock results there (over 6 Ghz), though those setups will not run stable for long i'm afraid, still pretty nice though, check it out.
snoopy210190 8 months ago
@snoopy210190 Those are overclocked CPUs. I don't see 4.7ghz on the SandyBridge wikipedia page, sorry.
noobenstein 8 months ago
@skovkiosken Why don't you go spend your money on some grammar lessons rather than Apple products? ay?
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A24340881 8 months ago
@noobenstein it's called overclocking... I don't get why you guys are being babies about something so trivial. Seriously life's too short.
derekbahm 8 months ago
o.O that was awesome!
jesust1993 8 months ago
Just tried this on my 2.4GHz 4Gb 250HDD Macbook...
Didn't go as smoothly as that :D
Razathus 8 months ago
Try it again with Adobe master collection CS4 installed.
floritar 8 months ago
You guys sound like morons when you argue about mac and pc -_-
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AlecReviews 8 months ago
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zorinexy 8 months ago
Loving all the comments. I think this shows off the SSD more than showing Mac vs Pc. SSD ftw. If I had money to waist I'd buy a SSD.
streetmachine1984 8 months ago
I work at a software company and I also deal with customers.
ALL THE PEOPLE USING MACS are fucking retarded. Which leads me to believe only/mostly technologically impaired people buy macs.
omaifakingad 8 months ago
Apple is constantly amazing me with their amazing advertising techniques. They manage to sell standard PC's for a large amount more than other PC developing companies sell them for and about twice the price it would be to build your own. Advertising geniuses if you ask me, kings of repeat customers (for newer versions!) Just amazing. -No sarcasm here, I don't like Apple products because I have half a brain but boy would I love to have their marketing team behind me if I had a PC business.
TokerMate 8 months ago
I love my Ubuntu/Linux!
yld629 8 months ago 2
And if any of you Microsoft suckers knew anything about programming and development or computing efficiency -- your argument wouldn't be Windows is better, it would be: Linux is better.
popboard 8 months ago
The only thing you haters have on Apple is its price. If you could afford it (which you PC fanboys can't) you would buy it in a heartbeat.
TheKevdawg42 8 months ago
@TheKevdawg42
rofl, i could spend shit loads buying a laptop or i can spend shit loads buying a better laptop, mac isnt the best laptop out there, and there are a lot more better laptops than mac with the same price...
It would be like buying a pen for twice the cost of a normal one just cuz u can....
evolzed 8 months ago
come on guys stop feeding applefags
they're worse than trolls
jonting91 8 months ago
@skovkiosken Macs destroying PC? haha...you kidding right?
K3VY8295 8 months ago
@K3VY8295 So you're telling me you load Windows 7 onto that iMac and you should be able to open all the Windows apps at once, that quickly? Interesting. I have a brand new server grade quad-core machine with 12 GB of RAM and can barely open Outlook and Chrome simultaneously without the windows going transparent and 'not responding.' Go buy a PC right now and a Mac right now and wait 3 years -- you'll see your PC barely functioning and the Mac functioning as it did the day you got it: perfectly.
popboard 8 months ago 7
@popboard haha your one step too late ;) I already own a MBP 15in that cost the same as my i7 970 desktop running 2 SSDs in raid 0. The desktop boots twice as fast and can load a equivalent amount of apps and more faster than you can load this web page :) Been using both for 1 year and the MBP just can't handle video editing software like my desktop can, same with multitasking with everyday usage. Not starting a fight here or any thing, just point it out :P
K3VY8295 8 months ago
@K3VY8295 meh I guess, I think it comes down to how you maintain it. I just think, from personal experience, than Apple computers require less CPU to run smoothly than Windows machines. But we're all entitled to our opinion (glad to see you're not a troll) :)
popboard 8 months ago
@popboard /watch?v=SQUzaIIa7dg u mad?
fatsug50 8 months ago 39
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Itropiano 8 months ago
@fatsug50 I'm not mad. You just proved my point. Mac computers require less CPU power than PC's to perform just as efficient. That machine is almost a full GHz faster that the Mac shown here. And you honestly think that loading MS Solitaire, Notepad and Windows Media Player is the same as loading feature loaded iPhoto, Garage Band, iMovie, iDVD and the other 20+ heavy Mac applications? Thats funny. Show me two computers, similar specs, one Mac, one Windows and load CS5 at once. You'll see :)
popboard 8 months ago 2
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@popboard
Wow, seriously?
The big speed boost isn't from the CPU, it's from the SSD.
I also hope that when you're talking about efficiency you're talking about the operating system itself.
lpasepok 8 months ago
@popboard Yeah, U mad!
Gameomg 8 months ago
@fatsug50 But if you actually started to use all those applications at once Windows would start to "bog down."
If Apple wasn't so controlling and allowed you to install their OS on any kind of hardware, like Windows, it would be no competition. I wish someone with a superfast 'Hackintosh' would post a video.
My main/most used PC is Windows so don't tell me i'm a Mac/Apple fanboy. My laptop is a MacBook Pro, because when I don't have time to fiddle w/ Windows on the go; OS X takes care of me.
mutez0r 8 months ago
@mutez0r Except that's not true at all.
eyeAMtwinkEE 7 months ago
@fatsug50 cant people just provide a proper link
Dontcallmetimtam 8 months ago
@fatsug50 Don't want to debate or anything, and I'm not saying PCs can't do similar things, but from my first impression, it seems that the Windows apps that were launched were generally smaller than most of the Mac apps.
bryceman111 7 months ago
@popboard u clearly dont know what ure talking about... If someone knows how to take care of his/hers computer that shit wont happened. PC's are cheaper, works better with the same amount of hardware and gives more freedom. All it takes is a little brain to operate it and from what i notice i've seen that a lot of people in america use macs, i dont find it to be surprising at all having in mind what i just said.
Lorkin32 8 months ago
@Lorkin32 If you knew who I was, you'd know I know what I'm talking about :)
popboard 8 months ago
@Lorkin32 youre saying he has no idea what hes talking about when you just made this comment? the only think you got right in your comment was windows based machines are cheaper, and thats becoming less and less true. works better? yea right, several tech sites benched windows performance on mac and similar pc hardware but mac out performed every competitor. also if you knew anything about server management youd know unix (which is what bsd is based on) is a lot more lightweight than windows
plotikai 8 months ago
@popboard I rofld. Thank you for this, so much truth in this
l3xxd 8 months ago
@popboard My 2-year old PC launches apps this fast so yours could do it too. Ofc i have a fast SSD drive in my machine just like the one in the video has. Its not the OS that makes app launching fast, its the SSD drive.
khsfksjdkfjlsj 8 months ago 2
@popboard Bullshit. Unless you filled your server with viruses.
Murukku47 8 months ago
@popboard Or use Linux.
ArkBlitz 8 months ago
@popboard
You can upgrade your PC after 1.5 years. You'll have to buy a new mac every other year. Mac = Fashion.
neverhoodyn 8 months ago
@neverhoodyn then why do i have a 12 year old mac running leopard? That would be like running vista on a PIII which could never happen
jessops666 7 months ago
@jessops666
Yeah, but how fast is your Mac after 12 years? Can you even render a movie in premiere? Can you run any 3D software let alone game?
neverhoodyn 7 months ago
@popboard 12 GB ram??? HAhahahahah. You my good sir, just god ripped off!
theDECENTswe 8 months ago
@theDECENTswe I was being sarcastic about the Chrome and Outlook thing...
popboard 8 months ago
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@popboard 12 GB ram?! hahahah! You my good sir, just got ripped of!
theDECENTswe 8 months ago
mac ftw, i have an old ssd drive in a netbook from a few years ago now, so what?! they haven't been big enough to be cost effective enough to use as a main drive on a desktop machine until now, i used to slag off apple until i tried to make music with windows,, big mistake, logic/PT on mac pwns any of that crap on windows, can you make an aggregate audio device yet?!
Rrrrobbo 8 months ago
wow that's awesome
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shelaiism 8 months ago
Lol! We do that at school to crash the macs an annoy everyone!
cozzo707 8 months ago
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!
XzCoRkEy14zX 8 months ago
geeks
strikkebil 8 months ago
lols noob
propagandaaaaa 8 months ago
@propagandaaaaa thi was an experiment. noob
theshinywolf 8 months ago
But will it blend?
swimminginjello 8 months ago 2
But can it fit an a manilla envelope?
Cooldog74 8 months ago