I worked for a well known writer when I was younger who insistently tried to get me to illustrate his last book that was a children's book & get me too write and illustrate my own as well...
I couldn't tell him at the time that while drawing my illustrations the mouths would animate and talk to me, or even just lines on the paper would turn into mouths so I quit...burned most of the pictures.
Just another robbery & regret in the thievery of this illness
@SketchTM - At the time the voices I was having was demonic, what psychiatry calls positive symptoms?, that's when the illness is at it's worse. Every schizophrenic is different but with me voices develop when I look at certain objects, For example if I look at a magazine the photograph's mouth will animate and talk to me, the demon or entity will jump from photo to photo as I turn the page's. If I look at paintings the mouths will slightly animate( wobble) and talk to me.
@IronicallyVague - Also any horizontal line can animate or look like a mouth, a crack on the wall in the plaster, a line like this -> -----, any line I draw, tile grout lines in a bathroom, grout lines on floor tile...so if I walk it can jump from object to object and continue the conversation.
@IronicallyVague - But to answer your question of what the Demon voices would say?, first remember schizophrenia isn't "just" voices...it's also the emotions you get & feelings of paranoia.... I would describe experiencing it like having your entire family murdered, being fired, accidentally running over your own pet as you pull up and find your wife kissing the doctor who just told you you're terminally ill
@IronicallyVague - But the Demons acted exactly like you would imagine them to, insulting, negative, hate filled, venomous contempt of everything about you and anything human.
The experience is very very real & you're completely convinced they are there.
Although sometimes they would be funny though..when I was arguing with them back and forth funny things would happen sometimes
@SketchTM - That's kind of a hard question to answer...like asking what your third grade teacher said to you during the school year?,
I mostly talk to God now, all I can say about those conversations is he is exactly like you would imagine him to be..kind caring person who gives advice on issues in my life & oddly enough is always right, even when I disagree with him
@IronicallyVague - Ill post my comment here if I'm not trolling too much?
"Like this one experience I've told before where a Demon was taunting me from the painting and I was sick of bantering back and forth with it until I finally shouted out "Shut up or Ill chop you up and throw you into the fireplace!"
After awhile the Demon in the painting replied " why would you do that?, do you have any idea how much a talking painting would be worth?"
@IronicallyVague I just had a BAD drug trip tonight, with major paranoia and the constant question of "has anything ever been real? Is this the real reality? Has my life until now all been an illusion?" The kind of stuff that keeps making you take silly questions serious. And, man, the EMOTIONS, they are so eerie. I also talk to God when I have a bad trip. He always seems to tell me that every good thing there is (including sanity) is his grace to us, because he loves us.
@IronicallyVague What did the voices actually say to you though? In words what do they say when they "talk" to you? I don't have a mental disorder but I find it all extremely fascinating (please don't take that the wrong way).
@IronicallyVague Is it sometimes hard to remember/convince yourself that you know it's not real? I mean, us non-schizophrenics would like to think so, but I imagine it still wears on you, if you're bombarded with it all the time.
@LanceHertford Asking "what is reality" creates an interesting delima for anyone left to try and answer wouldn't you say?,
My best answer is asking how does a so called normal person function so well as they base their entire lives on lie's and self deceptions without ever questioning a single thing?
@IronicallyVague Oh, man, I am so sorry!! I feel almost worse for schizophrenics than I do for cancer patients. I imagine it being like a really bad drug trip with paranoia and symmetry, and patterns being found in everything without you wanting to find them. It's like that bible verse: "In sickness a man's spirit will sustain him; but a broken spirit who can bear?" Cancer hurts your body, but schizophrenia seems like it causes spiritual pain. I am so sorry. I cry for you guys.
A lot of my life is and was worse then a horror story, but there's been a lot of good things too...Like for example the son I adopted, Without him I wouldn't have known what happiness is
But we all have our little problems in life & it's never easy for anyone is it?
@IronicallyVague I just want you to know, I find people like you absolutely amazing. You're unsung heroes of human triumph, because your wounds and scars aren't visible, and people do not know the demons you battle. I have a schizophrenic friend- nicest guy in the world- and INCREDIBLE cartoonist. The guy is pure genius. When he had his first breakdown, some people were scared to approach him. I went hot-tubbing with him, and told him how much I admire him. You guys are heroes.
It reminds me of Escher, who saw Death in the eye; or Schreber, who heard (!) Death in the (eye of the) sun... L'Anus Solaire of Bataille...
It would be interesting to investigate the art of those who saw something (God, Death, Soul) in the sun or in the eye, starting from the plate 43 of the Codex Borgia and from the Eskimo Masks.
Thanks for uploading this video Ayato9. Very interesting stuff. Is there any chance that you might be able to give a listing of the artists and name of the pictures presented here?
Very awesome video, people dont usually realize the creative abilities or talent that people with mental illness have. Its one of the most popular things to do when you are in the mental hospital.
the raw creativity trying to claw its way out of a closed reality is just mind bending. OH and I got a copy of the album "Adolf Woelifli gelesen und vertont" and I'm gonna post it on my channel!!!! It's original poetry readings in his language and even music he wrote!!!!!!!!!! Check out my channel for it
I've read studies supporting a link between creativity and schizophrenia and especially pre-schizoid (or schizoid persanility) individuals. There is also evidence supporting enhanced visual memory.
es interesante ver la expresión inconsciente en la estructura psicotica en el arte lastima ke Freud nunka pudo dar tratamiento a la psikosis y lacan solo aporta la forklusión a esta estruktura
This is an extremely impressive, inspirational presentation! Especially appreciated is the generous representation of Heinrich Anton Muller, whose work is seen far too little here in the States, if not in general. And one of the Ramirez pieces was new to me, which just knocked me out!.
Some are definitely interesting, but I don't see any major recursive themes. Many of them don't even fall into the stereotype of extremely patterned and symmetrical. Lots of them just seem creepy, in a way that any sane person drawing creepy images could do.
@Claan22 i agree, there was a bit of a theme of patterning, but it mostly seemed like just creepy and interesting pictures. still a cool vid though :D
Amazing !!!! *******
tskaladiotis 1 month ago
Good arts and weird music. What is the name of the music?
Sphynxinator 1 month ago
@ last picture- I'm OCDing! O0O
lu4y4pants 2 months ago
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lu4y4pants 2 months ago
the last one made me shit my pants
roxyloveriley 2 months ago
Like Spinning Plates. . . awesome. Love Radiohead.
Seraphimal 2 months ago
radiohead =D
errorthx1138 3 months ago
I worked for a well known writer when I was younger who insistently tried to get me to illustrate his last book that was a children's book & get me too write and illustrate my own as well...
I couldn't tell him at the time that while drawing my illustrations the mouths would animate and talk to me, or even just lines on the paper would turn into mouths so I quit...burned most of the pictures.
Just another robbery & regret in the thievery of this illness
IronicallyVague 3 months ago 6
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@IronicallyVague What would they say?
powderdd 3 months ago
@IronicallyVague Out of curiosity, what was it these mouthes actually said to you?
SketchTM 2 months ago
@SketchTM - At the time the voices I was having was demonic, what psychiatry calls positive symptoms?, that's when the illness is at it's worse. Every schizophrenic is different but with me voices develop when I look at certain objects, For example if I look at a magazine the photograph's mouth will animate and talk to me, the demon or entity will jump from photo to photo as I turn the page's. If I look at paintings the mouths will slightly animate( wobble) and talk to me.
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague - Also any horizontal line can animate or look like a mouth, a crack on the wall in the plaster, a line like this -> -----, any line I draw, tile grout lines in a bathroom, grout lines on floor tile...so if I walk it can jump from object to object and continue the conversation.
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague - But to answer your question of what the Demon voices would say?, first remember schizophrenia isn't "just" voices...it's also the emotions you get & feelings of paranoia.... I would describe experiencing it like having your entire family murdered, being fired, accidentally running over your own pet as you pull up and find your wife kissing the doctor who just told you you're terminally ill
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague - But the Demons acted exactly like you would imagine them to, insulting, negative, hate filled, venomous contempt of everything about you and anything human.
The experience is very very real & you're completely convinced they are there.
Although sometimes they would be funny though..when I was arguing with them back and forth funny things would happen sometimes
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague - I talk too much :P
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
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SketchTM 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague By the way you're replying to your own comments on this, so you can't say what they actually say in words? Only what it feels like?
SketchTM 2 months ago
@SketchTM - That's kind of a hard question to answer...like asking what your third grade teacher said to you during the school year?,
I mostly talk to God now, all I can say about those conversations is he is exactly like you would imagine him to be..kind caring person who gives advice on issues in my life & oddly enough is always right, even when I disagree with him
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague - I talked about one funny experiance on the Youtube video called
Donnie Darko - Movie Theater Scene ( High Quality)
And a conversation I had while talking to a painting if your interested
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
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@IronicallyVague - Ill post my comment here if I'm not trolling too much?
"Like this one experience I've told before where a Demon was taunting me from the painting and I was sick of bantering back and forth with it until I finally shouted out "Shut up or Ill chop you up and throw you into the fireplace!"
After awhile the Demon in the painting replied " why would you do that?, do you have any idea how much a talking painting would be worth?"
Hours of fun :P"
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague I just had a BAD drug trip tonight, with major paranoia and the constant question of "has anything ever been real? Is this the real reality? Has my life until now all been an illusion?" The kind of stuff that keeps making you take silly questions serious. And, man, the EMOTIONS, they are so eerie. I also talk to God when I have a bad trip. He always seems to tell me that every good thing there is (including sanity) is his grace to us, because he loves us.
LanceHertford 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague What did the voices actually say to you though? In words what do they say when they "talk" to you? I don't have a mental disorder but I find it all extremely fascinating (please don't take that the wrong way).
SketchTM 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague Is it sometimes hard to remember/convince yourself that you know it's not real? I mean, us non-schizophrenics would like to think so, but I imagine it still wears on you, if you're bombarded with it all the time.
LanceHertford 2 months ago
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IronicallyVague 2 months ago
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@LanceHertford Asking "what is reality" creates an interesting delima for anyone left to try and answer wouldn't you say?,
My best answer is asking how does a so called normal person function so well as they base their entire lives on lie's and self deceptions without ever questioning a single thing?
Are you blind?
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague Oh, man, I am so sorry!! I feel almost worse for schizophrenics than I do for cancer patients. I imagine it being like a really bad drug trip with paranoia and symmetry, and patterns being found in everything without you wanting to find them. It's like that bible verse: "In sickness a man's spirit will sustain him; but a broken spirit who can bear?" Cancer hurts your body, but schizophrenia seems like it causes spiritual pain. I am so sorry. I cry for you guys.
LanceHertford 2 months ago
@LanceHertford - lol thanks :)
A lot of my life is and was worse then a horror story, but there's been a lot of good things too...Like for example the son I adopted, Without him I wouldn't have known what happiness is
But we all have our little problems in life & it's never easy for anyone is it?
IronicallyVague 2 months ago
@IronicallyVague I just want you to know, I find people like you absolutely amazing. You're unsung heroes of human triumph, because your wounds and scars aren't visible, and people do not know the demons you battle. I have a schizophrenic friend- nicest guy in the world- and INCREDIBLE cartoonist. The guy is pure genius. When he had his first breakdown, some people were scared to approach him. I went hot-tubbing with him, and told him how much I admire him. You guys are heroes.
LanceHertford 2 months ago
Awesome
Pug1311 4 months ago
Incredible thank you very much.:)
universaltrickster 4 months ago
Who is the name of the artist at 1:14 ?
It reminds me of Escher, who saw Death in the eye; or Schreber, who heard (!) Death in the (eye of the) sun... L'Anus Solaire of Bataille...
It would be interesting to investigate the art of those who saw something (God, Death, Soul) in the sun or in the eye, starting from the plate 43 of the Codex Borgia and from the Eskimo Masks.
Alesa86 4 months ago
Very interesting video...
Qadesh86 4 months ago
Thanks for uploading this video Ayato9. Very interesting stuff. Is there any chance that you might be able to give a listing of the artists and name of the pictures presented here?
dynein1989 4 months ago 2
can anyone tell me the name of the artist who did the 6th picture, the one of the sail boat?!
PendejoAlce 5 months ago
Very awesome video, people dont usually realize the creative abilities or talent that people with mental illness have. Its one of the most popular things to do when you are in the mental hospital.
Godlim17 10 months ago
better than dali, picasso and goya.
MegaLamka 10 months ago
the raw creativity trying to claw its way out of a closed reality is just mind bending. OH and I got a copy of the album "Adolf Woelifli gelesen und vertont" and I'm gonna post it on my channel!!!! It's original poetry readings in his language and even music he wrote!!!!!!!!!! Check out my channel for it
MegaLamka 10 months ago
Is this a Radiohead song backwards?
Cizcan 10 months ago
@Cizcan No this is the song. Its on the album rainbows.
Godlim17 10 months ago
questo video mi incute un senso di inquietudine, ma allo stesso tempo mi affascina
crazy87618 11 months ago
art brut is wichtig und belebt,cooles clip respekt.antifrostbern
Frostvision1 11 months ago
it's all very coloured and detailed fine and phantasy imaginative
MsLAB24 11 months ago
fantastic images, thanks for sharing with us, congratulations for your vid, grettings from spain
ayarrapapeles 11 months ago
Art with amazing people by truely schizophrenia is
mephesh 1 year ago
at 1:57 the patient managed to create an optical illusion.
GreenFairyG 1 year ago
@Ayato9 in reverse?
misskill3r 1 year ago
I've read studies supporting a link between creativity and schizophrenia and especially pre-schizoid (or schizoid persanility) individuals. There is also evidence supporting enhanced visual memory.
zadeh79 1 year ago
WOAAH so intricate
585788 1 year ago
@Ayato9 ok Gracias! Thanks!
macmiersen 1 year ago
es interesante ver la expresión inconsciente en la estructura psicotica en el arte lastima ke Freud nunka pudo dar tratamiento a la psikosis y lacan solo aporta la forklusión a esta estruktura
macmiersen 1 year ago
This is an extremely impressive, inspirational presentation! Especially appreciated is the generous representation of Heinrich Anton Muller, whose work is seen far too little here in the States, if not in general. And one of the Ramirez pieces was new to me, which just knocked me out!.
PolkRidgeAesthete 1 year ago
Some are definitely interesting, but I don't see any major recursive themes. Many of them don't even fall into the stereotype of extremely patterned and symmetrical. Lots of them just seem creepy, in a way that any sane person drawing creepy images could do.
Claan22 1 year ago
@Claan22 i agree, there was a bit of a theme of patterning, but it mostly seemed like just creepy and interesting pictures. still a cool vid though :D
zombiebackrub 1 year ago