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  • See Did FBI Target Wrong Man As Anthrax Killer? for update.

    On YouTube at watch?v=V96J9H6Mdbw

  • RIGHT ON THE MONEY INDEED

  • i don't know about anthrax and bullets being found in the mail...but i do know that i only one more week to go boys and girls....axelle_rose

  • a bullet they say in the mail? Oh damn axelle_rose

  • The history of terrorism by The RNC-GOP is the history of false-fag attacks on Amerca. From US union-busting, to explosions in 60's-70's Europe blamed on "commies" to Kennedy's assassination, to MLK's, to Bobby Kennedy's to Watergate, to Bill Kristol-Dick Cheney's "New Pearl Harbor " 911 -WTC attacks, to pre-Patriot Act GOP anthrax mailings to Democrats, to corporate GOP thugs screaming down town halls using guns. RNC-GOP Corporation is the largest full-time terrorist organization on Earth 100%

  • Notice how patriot US media "keeps us safe" & FBI "keeps us safe" and how fake WMD-fake yellow-cake-oil war Dick Cheney "kept us safe" except 5 dead people murdered by RNC-CIA-Blackwater contractors from Cheney-Bush GOP Terror Inc. FBI "lost" evidence, covered up 1.4% siliconized anthrax to Democrats. Ivans had no capability to manfacture it-100% FBI Terror OK. All "unsolved" anthrax murder from Bush Cheney-FBI "keeping us safe" murdering Dems' no problem-docile Pet Negro notices it? Haha

  • Bruce Ivins had nothing to do with the anthrax letters. He was framed, then killed. Bush's lackeys sent those letters

  • the anthrax came from west virginia, helped to rush through the patriot act.

    only one copy of the act to the pubs and one to the dems. railroad. where were the dont tread on me crowd then?

  • He is right on the money once again. wake up america.Your government treats you like sheep and you just let them.

  • ivin's has the same psychological profile as the unibomber.

  • EVERYONE IS A TERRORIST NOW lol

  • Damn... I really appreciate this news medium. It tells the truth as it is, and although many of these news videos that I have seen can be considered biased (as if any source of info wasn't ever biased), at least it is biased in a way that doesn't persuade you to either spectrum. It simply provokes thought. Keep up the good work, TYT!!

  • The Truth

    watch?v=YeYn82j8Ycw

  • Completely agree with this. Keep it up you guys!

  • this seems like a test of how much we'll all sit back and let the government tell any lie they want (intelligence community particularly) while we wait to see if someone else calls bullshit. I have no idea what "inside job" necessarily means, but the government's story of what happened on 9/11 is at a minimum not the whole truth, and there were more people involved. probably members of the intelligence community. ISI we already know about. transparency anyone? before they let a nuke happen?

  • what a case study. i figured i could come to a page like this and find alllllll kinds of people who say silly, stupid, childish things. Like, "I didn't watch this, it would be a waste of my time". HAHAHAHAHA! WHAT!? Really? What were you doing before? Why the hell did you come here in the first place? What do you DO with your LIFE?

    Oh, I'll keep coming back. You people provide loads of information. You know, stuff that you can, like, research and write books about and stuff...nah you don't know

  • I wish i didnt watch this,

    waste of 3:36

    also wish hed shut the fuck up

  • this guy commited suicide,,, and so did the d.c. maddam,,, NNNNOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!

  • Timothy McVeigh was called a terrorist. Looks pretty white to me.

  • That's what I was thinking, but then again you have to take in to account that he was pre 9/11; which changed everything!! lol

  • weird. my comment didn't post. well, to fill you in, strung-out, I mentioned something about libraries...but I won't repeat it b/c I'm sure it was over your head.

    other than that - I guess I don't know what a "truthie" is, but if you mean "liberal" (as in "this country was founded on freedom"; "give me liberty or give me death") then yeah....i guess i'm a...a uh..."truthie" - or whatever.

    freak.

  • Who do you have to fuck around here to get the Young Turk pollution off You-Tube?

  • i heard he was just a mad scientist, a really smart guy who went crazy.

  • oh, guess what; I was right!

    someone with nothing better to do....

  • Oh, my bad aquains

    I didn't know you were a "truther"

    It is a crime to let someone as stupid a you breed.

    Keep watching those illuminati alex jones 9-11 conspiracy theory vids retard. then drink a mountain dew and jerk off to some asian porn you loser.

  • superstrung-out down there doesn't know wtf he's talking about, man. YES! YES! YOU ARE DEAD-ON! (and thanks for sayin it) I know you don't worry about the righties down there - half a brain combined with flawd logic never brought anyone too far...Well, there was that Bush guy, but...

    forget these sheep - keep it up!

  • McVeigh was considered a terrorist. What race was he??

    This guy is an america hating douche for trying to pull out the race card on this BS.

  • bad joke

  • I like watching this Soldier hating, affirmative action using, immigrant bitch talking shit about the country that has made the world more stable and prosperous than it ever has been. Fuck u, you freeloading bitch, Cenk. Why don't you gang rape an Armenian and STFU. 

    Soros says you suck good cock for cheap.

  • Good god this guy is such an idiot. I feel bad for anyone who watches this for anything but entertainment purposes.

  • Suicide by Tylenol? Remember the lady that was to testify about the black book? Suicide by hanging. What's wrong with the picture? Men generally will hang themselves or blow their brains out when commiting suicide. Women often (89%) will opt for pills and poison. FBI paper is screwed. The first suspect sued and was given several millon dollars and, wait for it.he helped the FBI with his expertise.

  • McVeigh was called a terrorist, and he was white.

  • i think this guy Ivens was erased in an attempt to erase any further talk or revelation about the real nature of the case. There are ways to make a person seem crazy or act in a crazy way. It is part of the new black ops technology. They had a misfire with the first guy who was somehow able to defend himself against the frame up. The case against Ivens would have probably fallen apart if he had not conveniently "committed suicide".

  • how come its always the "pro-lifers" who try to murder people. last time i checked being a murderer was pretty "anti-life".

  • Anthrax was an inside Job. This guy was "suicided"

  • TERRORISM FOR DUMMIES chapter 2:

    Review

    McVeigh = terrorist (white)

    Unibomber = terrorist (white)

    Bin Laden = terrorist (semitic)

    John Allen Muhammed: Black. Converted to Islam and changed name to John (just kidding). Blew a gasket. Went on a month-long shooting spree. Killed 10 innocents. No political motive. = not terrorist.

  • The new number to call to report employers who are knowingly hiring quantities of illegal aliens is (toll free): 1-866-DHS-2-ICE

  • It was carried out by our own government...obviously they were the only ones who read the patriot act

  • I'm still not totally convinced this guy did it.

    But whoever did it does qualify to be called a terrorist -- NO DOUBT!

  • who gives a shit if ur a turk, faggot$!

  • I never really believed in this "God" thing...boy was I wrong.

    Christianity is not a religion...it is the truth. The truth about life. May the spirit of Jesus Christ fill your life with happiness, love, and compassion for others

    Repent means apologize, turn away from, and change your mind *REPENT*

  • Amen

  • "Christianity is not a religion...it is the truth." Ok. So everyone that has ever worked on a Sunday should be executed then?

  • If you were to read the New Testament *In the Bible of course :) * Jesus preformed miracles on The Sabbath.

    ...Human needs are more important than Sabbath restrictions. The Sabbath should serve human needs, rather than human needs being delayed to serve Sabbath rules.

  • But didn't you interpret the Bible just now? Because that's not what it actually says. It's kind of clear. "For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death" -Exodus 31:15. And that's one of the commandments as well. Of course that sentence is a bit different depending on which Bible your using. But they all say the same thing. If you work on Sunday, you must die.

  • hehehe...how can you interpret the Bible if you aren't Born-Again? That's like trying to find a salad at a Slaughter-House

    I broke it down to you...and you still don't get it. JESUS/GOD preformed miracles on the Sabbath (period).

  • Hey put the bible down DivinelyGifted. It's the 21st Century

  • So...I guess me touching and healing my son of a fever last night, and speaking in tongues, and prophesying happened 2000 years ago... man, am I lost in time?

  • LOL. Good one.

  • ya dang skippy, im fresh out of the wilderness with this stuff....like what church did he come from?

    it's not about religion, it's relationship

  • Quit trolling.

  • sorry, but being that I didn't believe IN THIS STUFF, and Jesus Christ came to me-- I gotta let people know

    A sower sows the word

    I never thought I'd be doing this--it's kinda shocking to me.

  • Then find a forum more suited to your task.

    What's more, your selfish concern over your need to "sow" when others are here for another purpose is quite telling. You'll win few people to Christ being so self-involved.

  • nobody is asking you to read all the comments...let alone comment back

    If it's not for you--fine. If you want to sit back and basically call me a liar--you really need to take a look at yourself.

    Im not here to "WIN" jack. What do I get out of it huh????????? A prize?

    I am responsible for letting people know what i have experience...because everyone isn't as "unlucky" as i was to be informed the way I was

  • Jesus Christ came to me and said that he isn't real. So I guess you should take his word for it and not accept him.

  • hahaha...the Devil is laughing

  • Because you're going to against Jesus' divine word and believe in him? Thereby damning yourself to hell which does not exist?

  • You make sense...just like how there will be an air-conditioner in Hell

  • Woo! I don't even have an air conditioner here.

  • NO! He was simply a "PATSY"!

  • thought it was a sand nigga,it was a white boy, who we gon b scared of next?

  • Hes innocent until proven guilty, has anyone forgot about that?

  • Oh, I get it now, you guys are comedians. You just make up stuff. Very funny. Obama needs you.

  • Michael von schpitz, ze german terrerizt... Uhm, no... I'd go for Mohammed Abdul too.

  • Yup

  • Whats the difference between someone using violence to influence people who is a Muslim and one who is not? Why is one a terrorist and one not? Your comment makes 0 sense.

  • It seems to make a big difference to Cenk. He doesn't even sound like he thinks the guy id guilty but he's mad because nobody is calling him a terrorist. That makes 0 sense.

  • Actually I think he said we should question and be sure. It doesn't really matter because the point is that the MSM accepts is as real, and in that context, how are they treating it?

  • TERRORISM FOR DUMMIES chapter 1:

    Timothy McVeigh: Blows up federal building targeting innocent people to make political statement = terrorist.

    Unibomber = Blows up innocent people and sends letters to news railing about environment = terrorist.

    Osama Bin Laden: Blows up office building (twice) targeting innocent people to make political statement = terrorist.

    Bruce Ivins: Mails anthrax to kill (pro-choicers?) labeled "DEATH TO ISRAEL.." to HIDE true motive. = not terrorist.

  • why is terrorism constricted to the middle east, who ever decides to kill people on an international stage weather it be political people or a mass group of people it is terrorism. to me a psychopath is someone who well kill the innocent, that's a terrorist. Someone who kills to save there country, to kill to preserve the countries way or life is patriotism. People forget that we invade peoples homes, how would you react if a higher power invaded your home?

  • Terrorism isn't restricted to any region. If this guy sent letters that said "DEATH TO BABY KILLERS" then I'd be right there with you and Cenk: he'd be a terrorist. This guy totally obscured whatever motive he had by writing letters lamely disguising himself as Islamic by writing "DEATH TO ISRAEL". Nobody bought that because of the targets. Even the real terrorists were probably scratching their heads. So every act of violence must be called terrorism to be PC? Is that it?

  • I think theres a clear difference of definition u can make between every act of violence, someone who smacks you in the face with a baseball bat i agree is not a terrorist, yet someone who mails anthrax to figures of state, whether he declared his real reasons or not, whether it be a thought out reason or a misguided ego boost it is a planed out act of assignation, disguised as a "terrorist", doing that scared a lot of people, an aggressive act that caused terror, not PC just correct, terrorism.

  • Incorrect and sadly political, sadken501.

    Smacking me in the face with baseball bat for saying something that hurts your feelings or assassinating a public figure are both violence directed at someone you believe culpable. OK that's evil enough.

    Terrorists are especially sinister because they deliberately choose victims who they know are innocent and non-culpable - just to make a point.

    Can you see, sadken501, how exquisitely evil that is? Saying so doesn't may me racist.

  • "Whoops"-Sadken

    I don't think I'm sadly political, more sad about the state of politics. Against my inherent need to always be right and shout the cause against wrongly stereotyped, I think that made me a little blind.

    I think I just thought that a man who causes terror under the mask of a terrorist, and produces that reaction of terror from the populace is then inadvertently a terrorist.

    But you're quite right, who ever kills someone apart from the issue to prove a point that is a terrorist.

  • They held a memorial service at fort detrick for him, Is it normal US policy to praise terrorists in this manner? Did Mohammed Atta get a Memorial service?

  • fuck Bu$h! fucking nazi!

  • Amen... TERRORIST!!!

  • google campaign for liberty

  • So that everyone here knows, Dr. Bruce Ivins was a registered DEMOCRAT!!!

    Look into. As to the ill-informed dick blathering on in this video, he should really do some real research, or stop pretending to some kind of journalist.

    Cenk doesn't rule, his entire premise here is unfounded and false.

    Unless he actually talked to or knew Bruce Ivins, which I doubt, how would he know what his views on abortion were?

    Oh yeah, the FBI told him so.

    LOL

    Great source, ask Dr Hatfill.

  • so true

  • Also, if they called him a terrorist, they would have to admit that there have been terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11, and Bush did not protect us from terrorists.

    Were the DC Snipers terrorists? DC was gripped in terror during that period.

  • check out Glenn Greenwald's Salon articles (starting Aug. 1st, 2008).

    He's very interested in the inconsistencies.

  • ironylulz?

    pro-life zealot goes homicidal...

  • Man the Republicans can live up the phrase "They Take Pride In Being Ignorant".

  • With him testing for Anthrax wouldnt his fingerprints be found on the artifacts? (Thats like prosecuting the courner for finding his prints on the outopsy he performed.)

  • the strongest evidence came from her

  • I think another aspect that is being over looked is the so called "therapist" -Jean C. Duley.

    I heard she was a "counselor" not a therapist and wasn't even able to treat patients without a doctor present. If you look further into her...you may also find out she was using an alias......ask yourself why?

  • Cenk Rules

  • search for "Phil Zach" & Anthrax.

    Opportunity and Motive

    Dr. Ivins and Hatfil had opportunity but no motive. Search for someone who was goading US into accepting the Patriot Act and getting ready for War with Iraq.

  • Inside job!

  • pro-life nut, funny how they are always saving babies by killing people.

    Leahy is wonderful. He and Spector have been passing the chairmanship of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary back and forth and as far as I'm concerned, they are both worth more to America than the rest of Congress put together.

    Anyone else spot Leahy in the new Batman movie? "We're not afraid of you!" It was either him or made to look and sound like him.

  • it was him!! Leahy is known to be a HUGE batman fan and was offered that role!!

  • 'could have stoped the patriot act' Anyone thinking what i'm thinking?

  • 100% TRUE STATEMENTS. Cenk rules (at least on this issue)

  • Cenk, you rule! obviously, there's a double standard in America. If you're white, you're given a pass from being termed "Terrorist." The KKK, The Aryan Nations, Stormfront folks, and other fringe elements are terrorists within our own border!!

  • Of course he's a terrorist. Anyone who uses fear to try to influence is a terrorist, regardless of race or religion.

  • This Anthrax shit was from a US-laboratory!

    False Flag Muslim War Shit. Its like 9/11 and other operations like that.

  • Cenk is 90% right (Assuming what I read was accurate).

    From what I read, the way they found the Dr. Ivans (Who also worked/ works for the Pentagon) was due to the unique DNA signatures from the mailings matching those Dr. Ivans worked on. That's pretty much like a finger-print match in the world of Bio-Tech.

    Like many Scientists, this dude had multiple jobs. That whole shit about Princeton is to distance him from the Gov't me thinks.

  • Sorry, I meant Dr. Ivins.

    Also (From AP)...

    - Dr. Ivins Committed Suicide just last week.

    - Investigators also report that He immunized himself several weeks before the Anthrax Scare of 2001/2002.

    - No mention of how the Media shamelessly inferred this to Global Terrorism (during 2001/2002) when it was a Domestic one working for the US Department of Defense.

    - They have his personal email implicating him in the crime as well.

    It's funny how a story can change depending on the source.

  • One of my relatives revealed that he was paid four hundred thousand dollars a year to go to Iraq and work for Bechtel. No wonder there is so much real love for this war (invasion) he wants to go back...

    Killing kids to get rich..

  • Well damn, Cenk is 100% right on this one.

  • Waitaminute Cenk, are you telling me there's double standards for different races? No, I'm shocked!!!

    Oh, actually, I think I knew that. But keep telling it how it is.

  • Wow so true. It's 100% pure racism there. White people can't be terrorsts, but arabs (muslim or not), hispanics, blacks and all other races can be terrorists. Even since when being Muslim equals to terrorism. Christian and Judism were doing terrorism for centuries. Hitler for example and don't give me bull that he was an atheist. This guy was born as a Catholic. Also, the Zionists in Israel; jewish terrorists and if you say I'm anti-semitic, look it up in the dictionary first.

  • I wonder if the abortion clinic bombers would be exempt from being called "terrorists"? They were, after all, doing the work of God, weren't they? I mean, it isn't as if they were some group of wild eyed religious zealots imposing their brand of faith on others using high explosives to kill all those who dare to oppose th..........never mind, nothing to see here, move along move along.

  • i agree with you white people really are the biggest terrorist but to me it's funny what happened with Timothy mcbay

  • Cenk, you're absolutely right.

  • It is the Federal Government Leadership. Ever since 911 they have been in a lying conspiracy spasm. Everything that follows 911 is some manner of staged event. What does this mean? Truth is generally taboo if you come to work in a suit and tie. We're all doomed. I is like the game "doom". Truth is verboten.

  • Wow he is absolutely right about that.

  • I remember after 9/11, a friend telling me about a news program that declared "all terrorism has been performed by Muslims." That didn't make sense to me, and in the aftermath of that attack, I had briefly forgotten about Timothy McVeigh and the 1996 Atlanta bombing. Cenk is right. You can't go start a bloated war against your own citizens, so they're not "terrorists."

  • Timothy McVeigh = terrorist

    Theodore Kaczynski = terrorist

    both white dudes.

    But if you have a chip on your shoulder it could be easy to forget them.

  • "Timothy McVeigh = terrorist

    Theodore Kaczynski = terrorist"

    Both being CIA ops as well.

  • ;) sure, could be. Is this guy CIA too? In my newspaper they called him 'BIOterrorist'.

  • I don't know if you are agreeing with me but to answer your question i don't know. Here is more info on this guy...

    watch?v=wJVqykq7474

  • I have no idea if they are CIA, but they certainly could be, it would not surprise me.

  • Yes you are right...be not surprised.

  • this was done by our gov't he was murdered before he could testify.

  • our gov't wanted to blame it on Alquaida

  • How does a pro life person want to kill other people or himself?

  • It's just the hypocricy of the right. You better not dare harm that fetus but once it's born...fuck it.

  • This dude is pasty. He killed himself in a military psych hospital while under a suicide watch. He 'swallowed' a handful of tylenol 3 w/ codine. Tell me how a psych patient under suicide watch gets access to those drugs. This dude worked on Antrax vaccines, not in the weapons programs. His co-workers are coming forward saying he never would have had access to the type/quantity of anthrax that was used in the attacks. Also, White House staff went on Cipro a week or two before the attack.

  • LOL!! wake up people,, this guy was a patsy, just like Oswald. Lies are uncovered everyday and the American people just jump to beleive the next one!!!

  • Oh well I guess Bushes claims the anthrax came from Iraq was another BIG fat ass LIE!

  • Funny how he "killed" himself.

  • Good point!!!

  • Terrorism--- Noun

    1. The use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.

    I saw earlier on my local news channel they were calling this guy the anthrax KILLER who sent the anthrax to the government because he warned our government of the possibilities of an anthrax attack by terrorists, but they didn't listen so he decided to make them listen, by sending anthrax and launching a small scale attack. Now is that not use of violence for political purposes??

  • thank you for someone finally stating this. there is definately a double standard for white ppl regarding terrorism.

  • "there is definately a double standard for white ppl regarding terrorism. "

    That is true but when that woman laced those Tylenol capsules with Cyanide she wan't labeled a terrorist either.

    OK this is my opinion: I think Ivins was more of an opportunist who stood to gain financially from developing the antidote. Besides this is a goddamn racist nation. I am frakking SICK of whitye supremacy. Bush is a freaking terrorist, he terrorizes me regularly.

  • Man, they'll throw you in Guantanimo Bay for being a taxi driver in Afganistan, but you can mail anthrax to a senator in America.. And if you're white.. You're in the clear.. And I remember everyone saying way back that it had to be Al Queda behind the anthrax scare.. So they must have decided to go easy on this guy AFTER they found out he was white.

  • If you would be a 17 years old girl with baby growing inside of you, you would know why is it wrong to be Pro-Life. Just try to think about how your life would be, if you had to take care of a baby. Not for week, not for month, but for long long decades.

  • Now, imagine this, if this 17 years old girl knows the differences between right and wrong.

    She knew that having sex with this guy will lead to the potential of having a baby. And so, without having the protection of using birth control and/or condoms. Then we (citizens & govt.) is asking that ignorant girl to take away the life that the fetus didn't even start.

    As for abortion for saving the girl's life, then the doctors and govt have to get involved for the security of the girl

  • I take it you mean fetus?

    I personally think abortion is a vile and pernicious act, but as Artypnk's example helps point out, it is a difficult and personal issue that should not be in the realm of government policy.

  • just look what i written to Artphk

  • Hard for him to argue whether or not he did it now... Let's just pin it on him

  • Right wingers want all of us the live in a Christian state. They're just like our "so-called" enemies, but with a different God.

  • Fucking republicans are spreading anthrax, now.  The world's ran out of ideas.

  • republicans are liars

  • same story as that Tennessee church gunman hannity-fan, he was a religious terrorist.

  • So so agreed.

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