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  • Not much of a debate...it's Bill trying to make John agree with him and talk over him.

  • john stossel you are right let them in.my boyfriend ha s been here for 9 years he takes care of me cause i cant work im to sick and everyday i am so scared that he might be deported.i have a son and i cant take care of him buymyself,if he gets deported they will take my son to because i am sick which is unfair.people need to get over themselfs.

  • @adorable526 I hope you're kidding.

  • the neocon and the libertarian want more legal immigration, "guest workers" that will NEVER leave, or threaten these two guys jobs; how about stopping all immigration for about 20 yrs

  • @david1965af Not a good idea. We'll wind up like Japan..

  • @ApolyonTheSoulRender yea because japan is a failed society

  • Faux, Fair and unbiased... LOL!

  • 10,000 troops in Arizona would cost more than $400,000 million a year to solve nothing. We need to cut benefits

  • @theycantstopmenow to who? the fat asses who eat their way to a disability check in america? or the rednecks who fake back injuries and the money sue happy lawyers who prey on them....they also need to maintain thier lifestyles ?

  • @theycantstopmenow Why would you need to pay 10,000 US soldiers $400,000 a year when ten thousand White para-military ex soldiers would do it for free of charge to the tax payer?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Never vote, ever again you blithering sack of shit

  • @erik4727 Why is that, because if Whites like me vote for more White Nationalist to take over the government, the day of the non-White parasite living in this White established nation will come to an end?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 We need to call for the forced sterilization of morons like you. For the sake of national security. I have personally been threatened more often by white nationalist than any non-white person combined. Whites with your train of thought are vermin, trash, hypocrites, thieves, and liars.

  • @erik4727 Alright, so who would make up the demographics of troops to enforce that sterilization? Would it be the dew rag Negro gang bangers? Would it be the vato loco Mexican parasites? Or would it be the neutered and spaded anti-gun, anti-military and pro-faggot White Liberal metro-sexuals? National Security? Who do you think enforces national security? Would it be the gutter trash like you living in the big city sewer ghettos, or the Rednecks who hunt and kill for a living?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 it must be pretty sad to be you. white commit the most crimes, "abuse" the welfare system the most, yet are treated like fucking cults of personalities. You just proved my fucking point. I would rather live in a country where their citizens know how to live with each other without positing some FAILED final solution about the "race" problem. The problem is you, and rednecks like you. There's nothing noble in that.

  • @erik4727 Which country around the world would you rather live in that isn't White?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 any country far far away from you. And Japan.

  • @erik4727 Japan doesn't let immigrants into their country especially Negroes and Hispanics. So what other country would you move to besides a White country? What is wrong, not too many non-White countries that aren't shit holes to choose from?  Gee I wonder why that is.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Where the FUCK did you get the idea that those countries don't allow Hispanic/Black immigration? Are you fucked in the head? Do you need to take your pills? I'd rather live ANYWHERE far away from you. That would be paradise. Yes.

  • @erik4727 I was stationed in Okinawa and the Japanese only allow foreigners to live there for two years on business. Even if a foreigner was born there, they still wouldn't be consider as a citizen. You actually think the Japanese want their country resembling Uganda or Mexihole? So tell me what other country you would move to besides another White one? I know, it is hard to make a choice.

  • @erik4727 States like mine are starting to get rid of non-White parasitical garbage that brings down the quality of life everywhere.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 too bad that rampant bigotry is costing "your state" economic vitality

  • @erik4727 Yeah, all the Mexican restaurants and slum apartment complexes are going out of business....such a cost to my state. At the same time crime is down 24% since the Arizona anti-Mexican law was passed. Go figure, right?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Just look at the way your anti-Hispanic law backfired:

    americasvoiceonline(.)org/blog­/entry/report_analyzes_true_ef­fects_of_arizona_sb_1070/

    And if you really have a problem with non-whites, come at me. You won't soon regret it.

  • @erik4727 How did the law backfire? I mean thousands of parasitical Mexicans left the state with their anti-White anchor babies and now Mexicans slimming their way across the border are afraid to nest here. Can you clarify that back firing?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Are you fucking blind, old man?

    Here let me make this easier for you, and hold your horses for this one: Decreased total employment by 17.2% Eliminated 581,000 jobs for immigrants and native-born workers alike  Shrank the state economy by $48.8 billion Reduced state tax revenues by 10.1%

    Your days are numbered.

  • @erik4727 That is good, the more Mexican Mongrels leave my beautiful White state, the better off it is. State taxes mean nothing seeing how when the new president get sworn in he will give more Federal aid to compensate it. Oh by the way, did I mention that crime is down by 24% since the anti-Mexican law was passed? I bet other states have observed that also.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Where the fuck did you get this imaginary number? And stop getting your talking points, Boss Limbaugh? O' Pompous? If crime was your problem, you should be asking for an anti-white law, they commit more crimes than all races combined. And that's considering they have created a cult of personality amongst THEMSELVES.

  • @erik4727 I recieved my figures from the local police department and from talking to Phoenix cops on the street. Now if Whites committed so many crimes like how your Liberal Marxist handlers tell, then why is it that in rural White societies there is barely any crime? Did you hear about the latest body countr over the border with the Mexican Mongrels killing each other? Just imagine the death count in Aperica with the Negroes.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Allow me get at you with nothing but FACTS, instead of delusional far right DELUSION.

    topix(.)com/forum/afam/THQ4SIJ­0TNKFIARMC

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Most of the devastating violence we experience in our communities is committed by young white men between the ages of fifteen and thirty. What kind of violence am I referring to? Take your pick. Domestic violence, rape, acquaintance rape, incest, male on male fights, serial killings, racist hate crimes, gay-bashing, arson, campus riots such as recently occurred at Michigan State

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 University, and barroom brawls. 95% of all violence in our society is committed by males, and although women, men of color, and white men of all ages certainly can be violent, the overwhelming majority of acts of violence can be traced to young white men.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 White Illigitimacy

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    Moreover, with 75 percent-plus of their babies born

    outside marriage, white teens now have much higher

    illegitimacy rates than the black American teens. Indeed,

    in 2002, a white mother younger than 30 was more likely

    to have an illegitimate child than a black mother was.

    The largest number of illegitimate children is born to non-Hispanic WHITES (528,000),

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Whites & Welfare ---------------------------- Average welfare child is white, has one sibling and unmarried mother, gov't statistics show Contrary to popular belief, there are more White children on welfare than Black children, according to statistics from the Census Bureau and Department of Health and Human Services. Nearly 9 million children on welfare in are White, the statistics show, compared to 4.8 million Black children.
  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 I bet this fucking coward never knew a Hispanic in his life, yet here he is claiming to have absolute authority on the topic. You're pathetic, truly.

  • @erik4727 I live in Phoenix and the half breed Mongrels are everywhere with their anti-White urban terrorist anchor babies turning neighborhoods into ghettos like Mexihole.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Man, you are desperately out of touch with reality. If it is nothing but the color of their skin that PISSES YOU OFF, you have PROBLEMS. if you wanted for things to get better, you wouldnt be on YOUTUBE bitching about a final solution, you would be championing for civil rights and comprehensive immigration reform. NOT CRIMINALIZE the legal status of innocent human beings.

  • @erik4727 It's not the color of their skin that stands out, it is the low IQ and aptitude behind their skin color. The skin color is just an identification marker for that low IQ and aptitude. Don't get the two confused with each other. Funny how you can't name one non-White country to move to but claim Whites are the largest criminals....lol

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 The typical child on Aid to Families with Dependent

    Children (AFDC) is White and lives in the rural South,

    Appalachia or the downtrodden areas of major cities.

    The statistics also show that the average child on

    welfare is 7 years old, his mother is 29 and single, and

    the child has one brother or sister.

    Their welfare parent qualifies for only the lowest-paying

    jobs in the workforce.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks,

    collect greatest share of public aid dollars

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 White Drug use & Addiction/Diseases

    ------------------------------­-----------------------

    According to CDC there is a 30% herpes and Gonerrhia Increase In white teenagers,

    The Department of human health and human services

    concluded that 74% of all drug users are white, while only

    14% are black, as of 2005 9.7 million whites use illegal

    drugs in the u.s, compared with 1.8 million black

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 According to the National Center for Health Statisics

    whites age 12-21 are a third more like than blacks to

    have used illegal drugs twice as likely to smoke

    shrooms,pot, regularly; and 160% likely to be addicted to cocaine/Heroin/Meth.85 million whites drive drunk every year

    compared to 5.8 million blacks,Whites are 77% more likely to get into a car drunk.70% of all drunk driving deaths are White.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01

    White PedoPhilia/Sex Offenders

    ------------------------------­-----------------------------

    .

    Actually according to the FBI crime bureau of statistics, 93% of all pedophiles are white. White people, excluding latinos and hispanics make up 63.7% of the population. That's pretty fucked up.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 White people are also infamous for screwing livestock and their own kinfolk. In fact, they did a recent study and discovered that over 70% of all Southern whites were of inbred stock. LOL!

  • @erik4727 MYTH: Immigrants are a Drain on the United States Economy

    FACT: The immigrant community in the United States is, in fact, a net benefit to the economy.

  • @erik4727 A recent Congressional Budget Office Report states that “over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fis- cal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use.”

  • @erik4727 Research reported by both the CATO Institute and the President’s Council of Economic Advisors reveals that the average immigrant pays a net 80,000 dollars more in taxes than they collect in government services. For immigrants with college degrees the net fiscal return is $198,000.

  • @erik4727 You're siting information from the Marxist Federal Government who wants Mexicans here to maintain their voter base. Mexicans aren't immigrants, they are parasitical asylum seekers bringing their 3rd world habitat here to the US with them.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 you sure are paranoid, aren't you? alright. look. I can't let you let go of your bigotry and paranoia over a few youtube comments, i'm not that good.....yet. So i'm not going to get mad, im not going to hulk smash, im just going to let you run along to your little fantasy land. Let the big boys handle the real problems.

  • @erik4727 The big boys? Who would that be?  Can you name anyone in the government who supports Mexicans? We both know Obongo the Magic Negro didn't since he has deported more Mexicans than Bush and Clinton combined. He didn't give all the asylum seeking Mexicans asylum like how he was expected to do. So who supports Mexicans in the government?

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 With time, my friend, with time. Right-wing extremists like you will be eradicated and progress can be made once again. It is YOUR kind that forced the crisis upon the American public, and it is BECAUSE of your kind that Wall Street GAMBLED our fortunes, and it is because of YOUR kind that caused our downgrade. Mexicans didn't tank the economy. White Americans did. With time. Tick Tock.

  • @erik4727 Really? So who will make up the demographics on eradicating us White Nationalist? Will it be the vato loco gang bangers supported by their La Raza Communist handlers? Will it be the dew rag Negroes supported by the Obamaknights? Or will it be the anti-gun, anti-military & pro-faggot metro-sexual White liberals? I didn't lose anything on Wall Street, but then again I invested in hard assets. So tell me who will make up those demographics of warriors coming to get us ex-military types

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 again, do you NOT realize whites commit the MOST crimes, yet are faced with much more bullshit on the daily basis? While you may have had the benefit of daddy and mommy buying you those "hard assets" not everyone has the time to get into that bullshit. Unfortunately for them, wall street THUGS are GAMBLING away our social security. A program they paid into their entire LIVES.

    Now I see the right has a long history of embracing simpletons.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 I think it's going to rain tomorrow, you better blame that one on the commifascistnazis

  • @erik4727 I love it when it rains. The rain makes sure the metro-sexual Hispanics stay indoors while Whitey moves in on them during the night. Do you realize how many Mexicans pack into small houses just waiting for a grenade to be thrown through a window? It reminds me of Bagdad when we were clearing homes full of Iraqis by just throwing grenades in them and killing whole families. Just wait when we get to use our battle experience here in the states on you Mexicans....

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 I've already set up the offer, come at me. If you like to experience nothing but pain and suffering than you're speaking to the right guy. If you want to SEE dark skinned people suffer, you're in for the rudest awakening of your life.

    TICK.

    TOCK.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 What's up, ruthless? It's fine to think about. But we don't have that authorization here, What would one decent airstrike to to Ciudad Juarez?

    We have the first problem, but do you have a grenade?

    You don't? So start a fire.

    Seriously, I say turn our military loose on the cartels. However, we never have had the political will to do it without a declaration of war, and we don't now.

  • @SheikhTaqiyyameister I know how to make a fragmentation grenade if I had to and I say leave the Cartels alone and just put the US military on the border sealing it. The Cartels can deal with over populated Mexihole and the Mexicans who will be deported from the US back there. No need to waste US resources on Mexihole any longer, they will self destruct all on their own without any US assitance.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 People like you give americans a bad name.....

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 say this to yourself:

    TICK.

    TOCK.

    TICK.

    TOCK.

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 the people behind your precious anti-hispanic ad were NEO-NAZIS. Russell pearce, who has ties to the terrorist organization combined his efforts with Geo prison group to make the brown skin ILLEGAL. Mongrels like you are truly pathetic. You bitch and whine about brown skin people, yet YOUR policies drain "YOUR" money. and you have the gall to complain?

  • @erik4727 Our policies don't drain our money. Phoenix hasn't changed any economically. It has only changed through Liberal Marxist propaganda. Since the anti-Mexican law was passed, more and more small business owners are moving here from Spicofornia because of the enhightened security excluding Mexicans. We now have a Concentration Camp out in the desert to put Mexicans on chaing gangs doing forced labor for free. They are repaying the White man for all the free services they leeched off of

  • @RuthlessWhiteman01 (Source: Center for American Progress, Immigrants in the U.S. Healthcare System (June 7, 2007); National Immigration Law Center, “Health Care Expenditures for Immigrants are Lower than for Citizens,” (May, 2009), NILC(.)org; Dana P. Goldman, James P. Smith and Neeraj Sood, “Immigrants and the Cost of Medical Care,” Health Affairs 25, no. 6 (2006): 1700-1711)

  • Go Stossel

  • The cartels will be crippled if drugs are legalized.

  • Oh Stossel and O'Reilly, the best and worst of the Republican party.  One a libertarian who advocates freedom and another who is a stupid racist.

  • I think Mexico and America should become one country, imagine all the possibilities! !!! Mexicans are reported to be highly strong when it comes to science ( search it) this was confirmed in studies. Imagine all the bright Mexicans that are being wasted and forced to join the cartels just to feed their families. Its said that the Guy who invented the narco subs could have made millions in America given the right resources. And then.... the whole earth!!!!!

  • In 1913. There was totally free immigration. There was no amnesty. There were no drug cartels. Drugs were legal. Prostitution was legal. There was very very rare instances of crime. HEY! LETS HAVE THAT AGAIN!!!

  • End birthright citizenship. That will help the problem DRASTICALLY.

  • @kommisar Another way of putting it is "Read Amendment XIV fully."

  • @Goodatconnect4 Why? It should be repealed period.

  • @kommisar Why? That's the amendment that defines citizenship and ended the "3/5ths" clause.

  • @Goodatconnect4 Looked it up. It was actually the 13th Amendment that did that. The 14th concerns birthright citizenship.

  • @kommisar No. Amendment XIII freed the slaves. Amendment XIV rewrote the 3/5ths clause (see Amendment XIV, clause II). It is a misinterpretation of Amendment XIV that gives rise to the FALSE notion of birthright citizenship. Senators Jacob Howard and Edward Cohen clearly stated how the amendment was NOT meant to include the notion of "birthright citizenship."

  • @Goodatconnect4 From Wiki:

    "Since the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the constitution on July 9, 1868, the citizenship of persons born in the United States has been controlled by its Citizenship Clause, which states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."[3]"

  • @Goodatconnect4 There's an argument for that, but there's also an argument that the original intention of the 14th Amendment wasn't to give birthright citizenship, but that because of the way it became worded it allowed for this. I think you get my point though. The birthright citizenship thing HAS to go. It's totally bullshit to have an illegal sneak in, push out a kid and then be able to remain LEGALLY in the U.S. because her kid is a birth citizen.

  • Key phrase that is left unexplored being "...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." But I agree with you, people don't understand what that phrase means. Senator Jacob Howard says, in 1866, "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizens...

  • "*citizenship... and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

    The phrase was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. This precludes "automatic citizenship."

  • @Goodatconnect4 I'm not sure how the "claim of allegiance" works since you don't hear of too many foreign governments trying to get "its" kids back, but I'm not for a vague system for determining citizenship, but rather one that doesn't automatically make a newborn a citizen of illegals.

  • What you're for is what the amendment says and what the writers of the amendment intended. I don't know what else you want from me.

  • @Goodatconnect4 That's one an argument. Another might be the original intent of the amendment WASN'T to allow birthright citizenship, but because of the way it became worded, it DOES allow for it.

    I think you get my point though. Birthright citizenship HAS to go. It's completely bullshit than an illegal can sneak in here, push out a kid and then be allowed to LEGALLY stay in the U.S. and even get benefits because her kid is a U.S. birth citizen.

  • @kommisar or kick out every one that makes less than 40000 a year and is above 30.

  • @Mrinebriation I don't think that will do anything for immigration....

  • @kommisar it will improve life

  • @Mrinebriation No, don't see how that would work.  Quit trying, clown.

  • For all who seem to feel that mass immigration is good as long as the individuals are honest & hard-working, please consider that all human beings are resource consumers. Economic prosperity is dependent on abundant natural resources. I suggest the "CARRYING CAPACITY NETWORK", "NEGATIVE POPULATION GROWTH" and "NUMBERS USA" WEBSITES for the overview. Big corporations, like Mr. Stossel's employer, want CHEAP LABOR & Mr. S. is just towing the company line. PLEASE STOP & THINK. Peace to ALL.

  • The US immigration problem stems from the HUGE underground labor market!

    The price of labor doesn't reflect its market value.

  • just make it easier for immigrants to come here, but have strong borders to keep bad ones out

  • WHEN are we going to cease viewing some of our fellow human beings as beasts of burden who we "need" to bring in to do all the grunt work? We former TEENS used to do most of it. It allowed us to learn a solid work ethic & the value of money. WE NEED FEWER IMMIGRANTS, not more. However, let us ASSIST OUR GLOBAL NEIGHBORS IN CREATING THEIR OWN JOBS ON THEIR OWN SOIL, thereby, also, creating better trading partners; win, win, win. Peace ALL.

  • Disagree. June 23, 2011 jobs report. 429,000 New Unemployment Claims. TEEN EMPLOYMENT OUTLOOK ESPECIALLY BLEAK - 75% won't be able to find summer jobs. WE DO NOT NEED MORE IMMIGRANTS, BUT LESS. Put current Americans (both native & naturalized) to work first. Meanwhile, let us help our foreign neighbors create their own jobs for their own citizens on their own soil. Peace.

  • We have a serious labor problem in this country, WE NEED MORE IMMIGRANTS . The process is too cumbersome for people to come here. Protectionism doesnt work. Stossel is right 100 percent

  • @krillin876 - Hello. Just curious; 22 million unemployed (or under-employed). What labor shortage? And, if US students are leaving schools unprepared for the modern workplace, then we need updated curriculums & re-training opportunities, NOT mass immigration. What do you propose we do with the millions (& growing daily) unemployed, homeless citizens who get bypassed by immigrants (who, as individuals, ARE decent & hard-working)? Seriously. What? Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 It is a complex issue, here in New York Immigrants do jobs that Americans would never do. Whats has happened is that Americas youth has been coddled by their parents and have been told that they are entiltleed to more. Kids are told " just go to college" and they get a useless pyschology or sociology degree that cost over $100, 000. In New York, we would be in terrible trouble without the Immigrants mainly central and south americans.

  • @krillin876 - Hello. I agree & disagree. Teens used to be introduced into the job market/work ethic via jobs now taken by immigrants (even legal). "Jobs Americans would never do?" Sorry - every time there's a well-publicized illegal alien raid, numerous Americans line up for the newly vacant jobs. Again - what do you propose we do with 22 million under-employed & unemployed legal Americans? Soup kitchens & tent cities? Seriously. Can this one nation be the world's lifeboat? Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 you have it backwards, immigrant fill in the gaps for the jobs people no longer want. E.G.. A woman once told me " Ecudorian men are such good cooks/chefs." The reason is that there is a demand for cooks in USA. They fill the gaps. In their own country MEN DONT COOK,.. WOMEN DO. It is a fallacy that they hold wages down. "McJOBS" have always been a min wage job. Why should teens work when their parents will buy everything for them.

  • @krillin876 - Hello. I happen to be at the computer. I agree that some teens are handed everything, for which I fault the parents (ours have managed to find work). Once again, I disagree about jobs Americans supposedly "won't do" - there's a line of applicants for each position. Please, WHILE OVER 1 MILLION NEWCOMERS ARRIVE EACH YEAR, WHAT DO WE DO WITH 22 MILLION UNDER-EMPLOYED & UNEMPLOYED LEGAL AMERICANS (both native & naturalized)? Seriously. What?

  • @mjcamck71 these workers must find new work, it is called capitalism. What about automated services? They replace workers. Are we not supposed to enhance technology because we are afraid someone might lose a job. Americans simply do not care about the little guy, they go to home depot instead local hardware store, Walmarts dollar tree ect.

  • @krillin876 - Hello. I'm glad you admit these ARE workers, not lazy slackers. Automation replaces some jobs; creates others. Generalities are cheap & easy. WHERE exactly do you suggest these workers find "new work" when most have been looking for over a year? Meanwhile, over 1 million newcomers are, legally, still allowed in to compete with them. Do "good" parents let their own children starve while providing free food to "the poor?" How many "Americans" do you want? Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 Boloney. We've had the problem here of farmer's having a hard time finding employees during a crackdown because no one else will take the jobs. Do you really think an immigrant who speaks broken English is competing with the same jobs as a born and bred American with a high school diploma? Really?

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello.Been in the fields w/ growers (vegetables/sugar cane) who pay decent wages & provide humane working conditions. They fill their labor needs w/some low skilled persons, then students (current teen unemployment rate - 75%) , some prison inmates & increased mechanization. In the meantime, when are we going to cease looking at our fellow human beings as beasts of burden who we "need" to bring in to do all the low-paying grunt work? Just asking. Peace.

  • Stossel sucks on immigration. He doesn't understand or know about many of the solid culture/race arguments against immigration. I'm generally a Stossel fan, too...

  • @return135 agreed, he generally seems to be better with domestic issues

  • It's ironic that O'Reilly has Borat on his show to talk about immigration.

  • Stossel is the man. He is one of the best libertarians out there.

  • I used to be impressed with the intelligence & common sense of John Stossel. Not anymore. Here he seems to be saying that we can't control the border so let's just abandon it and allow millions, tens of millions, maybe HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS to JUST MOVE IN "legally." Mr. Stossel, sir, THERE IS LIMITED AIR, LAND & WATER THEREFORE THERE ARE LIMITS TO HOW MANY HUMAN BEINGS CAN SHARE THE SAME NATION. We should be helping these folks build up their own economies in their own lands. PEACE TO ALL.

  • @mjcamck71 We have far, far less population density than most European nations, who seem to be doing fine. The reality is, we have *plenty* of room for expansion, and it would be a huge boon to the nation, and the economy. We have zero responsibility or incentive to make other countries great - we need to focus on making our country great, and letting others who share that vision come here and help contribute. Doing otherwise is a block to the American dream.

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. Just saw this. We'll disagree here. Europe is not doing "fine"; over-crowded housing w/ no yards, roads jammed (even w/ their small vehicles), social unrest, economic depression. US Farmland disappearing under rabid development; land used for 91% of fruit, 78% of vegetable production on "urban fringe" areas threatened by our ever growing population. Nor do I agree that we have "zero responsibility" for our global neighbors. We are all One Human Family. Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 Have you been to Europe? While they have a much higher population density, they are, in fact, doing fine. Those issues are not unique to Europe, and have little to do with density. I agree we should change our culture of sprawl to a culture of building "up", but we are by no means anywhere near our limits. Not even close. Look at a map of density here. We have lots of room, and lots of resources. Turning away new people to help build us up towards a unified goal is foolish.

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. Been to Europe. "Fine" is in the eye of the beholder.Those who like dense, high rise urban life see it differently from those whose ideal is quiet open space; houses w/yards for children to play in. Also, land not covered w/buildings is not "unused." That's farmland, grazing land, wetlands & forest land all currently disappearing (due to mass immigration) at a rate that will cause the USA to cease all food exports in 20-25 years. Were you aware? Just asking. Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 Nothing you are saying is true. "Fine" is not in the eye of the beholder: I lived there for some time - it was a pretty normal life, not too different than here.  And not every town in Europe is a high-rise paradise - I spent quite some time in a pastoral little town. If you think all land in Europe is used, you're either misinformed or simply disingenuous. Methinks the latter. Let's welcome newcomers and accept their contribution to society and ignore the chicken-little's.

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. Disagree. "True" depends on one's view. Loyal city dwellers believe their lifestyle is "better" than rural residents & vice versa. It's not that one's true & the other false. Yes, I recall large amounts of "unbuilt" land in Europe; farm & grazing land, orchards(food sources!). Are you aware that if US population keeps growing, we will cease being able to export any food in only 20-25 years? Exactly how many newcomers do you want? Seriously. Just asking. Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 No, truth is a fact, not an opinion. It is a fact Europe has plenty of big cities *and* small pastoral towns and villages. I've lived in both, and I like both for different reasons. If all you recall of unbuilt Europe is farm and grazing land, you didn't get out of the city much; there's lots. The "population crisis" is a vastly overstated problem, *especially* in America. We have plenty of room for newcomers, and the "I got mine" attitude is just not productive for the country,

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. I'm glad to hear you denounce the all-for'-us-nothing-for-them attitude which you previously championed when you stated we have "zero responsibility" for other countries. I've been a volunteer anti-hunger activist for 40 years; we consider ALL of God's children to be our responsibility. In the meantime, did you know that, at the current immigration driven US population growth rates, we will not be able to export any food in only 20-25 years? Did you know? Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 There's nothing wrong with charity, and in fact I applaud your work; but I stand by my statement that we, as a country, have no *responsibility* to anyone outside of it. The responsibility is to provide for our people, not the world. But there is no evidence that current US growth rate will cripple our food exports in the years to come. That's an assertion, not a fact. Truth is we're making huge advances in agriculture technology every year, increasing crop yield and food.

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. I Disagree that we have no responsibility to our global neighbors. The "all-for-us-none-for-them" view causes wars when the "have nots" attack the "haves." The US is NOT a self-sufficient island; we must trade & work with others to even survive. As for evidence, I will refer you to The Carrying Capacity Network, Negative Population Growth & Numbers USA websites.What casual observers call "lots of unused land" is not truly "unused" at all. Peace,Love,Bread,Justice.

  • @mjcamck71 We'll have to agree to disagree. I stand by that our country's responsibility is to look after it's citizens first; sometimes it's in our best interest to support others, and to that extent it has my support, but not beyond that (at least not as we are now). I would point out your sources are quite biased; in reality, these are not facts but hotly disputed opinions. There is still plenty of land for use. Zoned is not the same as used. Keep up your good work as an activist.

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. Yes, as I've been saying all along, we just disagree, mostly. However, we AGREE that a country's first responsibility is to its own citizens which is why, with 20-25 million, un- & underemployed citizens (native & naturalized), we should NOT be continuing to accept 1.3 million legal immigrants annually or even whispering about a mass amnesty. BTW, isn't your statement about "plenty of land" just a "disputed opinion" as well? Hmmm? Best Wishes & Peace to you always.

  • @mjcamck71 You are assuming more people would be a drain on the economy, something you have not proven, and in fact history suggests otherwise (all times of mass pop increase were coupled with booms). And no, my statement is not a disputed opinion; one need look no further than our population density, zoning maps, or predicted population figures to see that. The assertion that we will run out of land anytime soon does not have any firm evidence; it's nothing but an assertion at this point.

  • @saberswordsmen1 - Hello. Disagreement. The websites I listed ALL dispute your there's-plenty-of-land statements. It is, however, your right to dispute their conclusions & my right to dispute your disputing, etc. If more people equal unending boom times, then why, after the arrival of 30 million immigrants in 20 years is our economy stagnant & 20-25 million people can't find full time work? BTW - should US veterans have to stand in line with immigrants for scarce jobs? Seriously. Peace.

  • Living outside of the US, i'm shocked that you refer to other human beings as "illegals"...

  • @Catrionaify - Hello. I wish to ask a gentle,serious question. I won't ask you where you live, but I want to assure you that most Americans are decent, honorable people who are just as uncomfortable with "illegal" as you are. How do your fellow citizens refer to foreign born individuals who enter or stay in your country in violation of border protection laws? These are basically decent folks; our global neighbors. What term is both descriptive & respectful? Seriously. Thank you & Peace.

  • @mjcamck71 In the UK we just call people here illegally "illegal immigrants". It's not that different but it doesn't give the impression that everything they do is wrong like "illegals" does.

  • @Catrionaify - Hello. Reply appreciated. I'll keep hoping for a day when mass migration no longer exists because all the poverty & violence which drives it is gone, too. UK? My ancestors are from there (1620) went first to Holland, then on to Plymouth, Massachusetts. I understand they were fleeing religious persecution, but I've been to England and, many times, wish they'd been able to stay. Oh, Well. Best Wishes & Peace To You.

  • someone should tell bill that the president isn't in charge of national guard....the governors for the state own the guard not the federal government.

  • There have been more deportations of illegal immigrants under president Obama than Bush or anyone else. But don't expect O'Reilly to tell you that. Nor that he probably employs illegal labor to do chores around his house.

    The man has no credibility.

  • @quenuca

    Actually, O'Reilly had Janet Napolitano on his show a few months back to ask her questions regarding the border and very pointedly congratulated her on that fact. But don't expect people who watch his YouTube clips for 5 minutes and then judge the entirety of his program to know that.

  • this has nothing to do with economics, it has to do with white people and some blacks being racist pricks

  • how about we take our soldiers from asia, europe,and the middle east, and put them on the border? lets protect this country, not other countries

  • @guidobambino

    That would cost money, money we don't have; if we want something like that we would need to tax people aka steal other people's money to fund a police state. Let me know how it goes when you give power to an incompetent government to "secure" our borders.

  • @MidNiteR32 im not advocating a police state at all. indeed, it would be best to end subsidizing illegal immigration by ending welfare and entitlement programs. but for the time being, soldiers would be better utilized on our borders than on other continents...you dont agree?

  • @guidobambino - Yes, agreed. As much as we would like, no one nation can be the world's lifeboat. We can, definitely should (& some of us have been) supporting foreign operations to create prosperity so our fellow humans may find economic opportunity in their native lands. And, yes, it is rather silly that "we" protect the borders of other countries, but not our own. As you probably know, however, the "powers that be" want cheap labor. We can still try to fix things though can't we? Peace.

  • I love Stossel but O'Reilly is right, stop the bleeding first then deal with the ones who did cause the bleeding.

  • @RealTime88 Why don't we start by deporting lazy,undereducated white trash that do not work but smoke pot all day long?

    Hard working immigrants deserve American citizenships more than these trash, who, by the way, live on taxpayers' money!

  • @ttiiyy Good luck Newt Wannabe your white trash elimination plan won't work. I'm for legalizing marjuanna like Mr. Stossel is. Throw the violent illegals out and the non-violent ones some who have been here for a generation, have them go through a program to become legal and if they pass they stay if not they go back. That sounds fair.

  • @RealTime88 The US fought with Italy. Italians were allowed to enter the US legally. What do you say about that? Why the double standards now????????????/

  • @ttiiyy I was talking about immigrants from Mexico, Central, and South America you fucking moron!!!!You conservatives get more and more sarcastic and cartoonish by the hour!!!

  • @RealTime88 LOL I'm not a conservative. What part of me wanting to get rid of lazy white trash do you not get????????????

  • @ttiiyy Im white and hard working, I want to get rid of lazy white trash, also lazy black trash, lazy hispanic trash, etc

  • @ttiiyy I say get rid of the undereducated lazy crack smoking niggers instead, who live off welfare. Im willing to trade one Nigger for every working Mexican in the U.S. We should open up terms with the Mexican government. We get cheap labor, they get slaves, we get rid of our nigger problem, they get rid of their poor, everyones economy improves. It sounds like a good deal to me.

  • @TheMedievalMan

    If you lived in California or Arizona you wouldnt be saying that shit, hispanic gangs are out of control in California you have to watch your step, dont look at thuggish looking Mexicans, they all dress like gangsters whether they're in a gang or not, be careful what street you go down, be careful where you hang out, I'm tired of having to be careful man that shit is fucked up I just want turn into a serial killer who go's after gangsters and street thugs, they're terrorists

  • @fahQaszholez True, they are out of control, I live in Miami so I have an idea of what you are talking about. But do you know whos fault this is? This isnt necessarily the Mexicans who are coming here being opportunists. Its the Federal governments fault for not doing enough. Even the state governments have tried, such as that law in Arizona that was struck down on the grounds of "discrimination". The Feds are the real problem, these gangs are merely taking advantage of our weak system.

  • @TheMedievalMan

    dont know what we can do were being sold out by our own govt, both parties, form militias and march on washington kick all of those enemies of the state out and re-elect an entirely new congress?

  • @fahQaszholez Move from the infested states, and get to the Northern/Center ones. Then there will be a more concentrated population in those states of anti-illegal immigrant voters. When a limb is infected, sometimes its necessary to amputate to save the rest of the body. The liberal/immigrant states are a lost cause. There is nothing that can be done with them, except annex them off to Mexico. Save what you have left while you still can.

  • Fuck that,they'll follow you wherever you go,leaving a path of filth,poverty and decay in their wake.We need to form militias for real,it's protected by our constitution,we'll have former military involved,and our opposition forces are our own kind they won't want to fight us they will want to join,we need to kick out every politician under constitutional clauses elect a new federal congress and start over,we'll have certain media on our side,businesses,manufacturers,­it will take time to develop

  • @TheMedievalMan

    And where can we, non medieval people, move to so we are not infected by the likes of you? I would greatly appreciate you telling us the general area in which you inhabit.

  • @quenuca Miami, the most Latino, non-"Medieval" place to live!

  • ugh did bill just miss the biggest point! trying to protect the border is pointless and stupid. half illegal immigrants don't even cross the mexican us border

  • stossel looks so uncomfortable having to talk about this lol...

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  • just start shooting illegal border crossers on sight. That'll stop the illegal alien invasion real quick.

  • @djpoppy1 Bouncing betties work better. And no, Im not talking about a kind of hooker...