Noam Chomsky on US War in Afghanistan, NATO and Israel/Palestine. Democracy Now 4/3/09 1 of 4

[darkillity]

chomsky is great but it's pretty difficult to keep up with him cause he speaks so monotonously throughout. subtitles would be perfect.

[punxsutawneybarney]

Chomsky told Iranian TV recently that Bush invaded Afghanistan when he had no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty. He says the war is totally illegal and criminal. See my video "Chomsky on Faith-Based War and 9/11"

[bilfo71]

@punxsutawneybarney Here is the reason ... if my government wanted to extradite an American national suspected of war crimes against my country. First thing America will do is to say to my country provide evidence and since America could not provide proof hence the war is illegal. Now don't get me wrong i despise the Taliban but when the Russians asked us to help them against the Taliban we instead sided with them.

[tanvo93]

@punxsutawneybarney its true..the head of the FBI said it..the Taliban was willing to extradite or whatever Osama Bin Laden if they had evidence..but they didnt

[booboonation]

Obama embarrasses me.

[Cathode0]

afghanistan: (noun) An ideal location from which to attack a surrounding bonanza of energy-producing, sovereign nations; such a location with a defensive aspect regarding neighboring resource supply lines; a nation who's leadership acts as an uncle tom to it's neighbors: nations inhabited by interrelated, indigenous ethnoreligious groups; foreign land in which you owe (to a greater collective) military service.

Hopefully this helps me retain the reason, so I won't have to look it up again.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: Once again the Germanic tribes invaded Britain and won most of it by their valorous spears; so the word immigrants must be replaced by invaders or conquerors; and the Roman legions did not suffer a defeat in Scotland (like they have in the Teutonic forest) but merely decided that Scotland was not worth to conquer it (even today most English think that they should get rid of it, more than Scots wanted back their independence); and of course Maggie used Scottish cannon fodder:

[GreatGrumbledook]

Why do you think the British Army's first Kamikaze Regiment, the Queen's Own McKamikaze, was formed for? Tea parties? No, so successful has been the training of the Kamikaze Regiment that the numbers have dwindled from 30,000 to just over a dozen in three weeks. What makes these young Scotsmen so keen to kill themselves?

Scots Soldier The money's good!

Second Soldier: And the water skiing!

RSM: Ten-shun.

Captain: All right, sergeant major. At ease. Now, how many chaps have you got left?

[GreatGrumbledook]

RSM: Six, sir,

Captain: Six?

RSM: Five, sir. Good luck, Johnson.

Captain: Jolly good show, sergeant major. Well, I've come to tell you that we've got a job for your five lads.

RSM: Four, sir.

Captain: For your four lads.

RSM: Good luck, Taggart.

Taggart: Thank you, sarge.

Captain: Now this mission's going to be dangerous, and it's going to be tough, and we're going to need every lad of yours to pull his weight. Now, which ... er ... which four are they?

[GreatGrumbledook]

RSM: These three here, sir. OK. Off you go, Smith.

Smith: Right!

Captain: ... er ... sergeant major!

RSM: Yes, sir?

Captain: You don't think it might be a good idea... er... to stop the training programme for a little bit?

RSM: They got to be trained, sir. It's a dangerous job.

Captain: Yes ... I know... but... er ...

RSM: All right MacPherson, you're next, off you go.

Captain: You see what is worrying me, sergeant major, is...

MacPherson: I'll make it a gud'un, sir!

[GreatGrumbledook]

RSM: Good luck, MacPherson.

Captain: Er... MacPherson... only this mission really is very dangerous. We're going to need both the chaps that you've got left

RSM: Both of who, sir?

Captain: Sergeant major, what's this man's name?

RSM: This one sir? This one is MacDonald, sir.

Captain: No, no, no, no. Hang on to MacDonald, sergeant major, hang on to him.

RSM: I don't know whether I can, sir... he's in a state of Itsubishi Kyoko McSayonara.

Captain: What's that?

[GreatGrumbledook]

RSM: It's the fifth state that a Scotsman can achieve, sir. He's got to finish himself off by lunchtime or he thinks he's let down the Emperor, sir.

Captain: Well, can't we get him out of it?

RSM: Oh, I dunno how to, sir. Our Kamikaze instructor, Mr Yashimoto, was so good he never left Tokyo airport.

Captain: Well, there must be someone else who can advise us?

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: The region is called Bretagne even today; while the rest of the Celts fled in terror to Wales and in the Scottish mountains; so migration is not really the word of choice here is it! Besides for my English bloodline I do decent from the French-Normans, who invaded England a few centuries later; as I am two cousins away from a Barony created by the Conqueror. And now I will fuel the old mutual hatred by quoting Shakespeare:

[GreatGrumbledook]

WESTMORELAND But there's a saying very old and true, 'If that you will France win, Then with Scotland first begin:' For once the eagle England being in prey, To her unguarded nest the weasel Scot Comes sneaking and so sucks her princely eggs, Playing the mouse in absence of the cat, To tear and havoc more than she can eat.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: I never thought that anyone would be ever declare to be proud to be the countryman of the current English prime minister! I guess even the Queen would deny in public that she had anything to do with his installation in office! Boast of it: That Monsieur Brown is your countryman! You German immigrants? What? Well the only Germans people moving to Britain were the invading Anglo-Saxon tribes and unlike the Franks here in Gaul they slaughtered the Celts in Britain!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: A infamous Saxon chief is quoted thus: "We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig, cow after cow, village after village, army after army. And they call me an assasin. What do you call it when the assasins accuse the assasin ? They lie.. they lie and we have to be merciful for those who lie. Those nabobs. I hate them. How I hate them..." the Saxon onslaught was so grim and bloody, that surviving Britons fled to northern France. ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: Nope, as there is no thing such as Britain only England and her subdued neighbours such as Scotland the English military authorities may be called British but are still English; and the armed forces in France are certainly not called so but always to referred to as the French army (though I have an English passport due to the English half of my blood); and for my channel you can believe that as long as you do not believe it to your grandfather or any other family member of yours.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: First I will chose some fancy counter insult: You cowardly rascal, nature disclaims in thee: a tailor made thee. Ay, a tailor: A stone-cutter or painter could not have made you so ill, though he had been but two hours at the trade! Then I will insult the so-called memory of your grandfather; the question is how. I guess I will use the speech Electra gives against dead Aegisthus in the tragedy of Euripides against him:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"Ah me, what have I? What first flood of hate To loose upon thee? What last curse to sate My pain, or river of wild words to flow Bank-high between?... Nothing?... And yet I know There hath not passed one sun, but through the long Cold dawns, over and over, like a song, I have said them--words held back, O, some day yet To flash into thy face, would but the fret Of ancient fear fall loose and let me free. And free I am, now; and can pay to thee At last the weary debt. Oh, thou didst kill My ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... soul within. Who wrought thee any ill, That thou shouldst make me fatherless? Aye, me And this my brother, loveless, solitary? 'Twas thou, didst bend my mother to her shame: Thy weak hand murdered him who led to fame The hosts of Hellas--thou, that never crossed O'erseas to Troy!... God help thee, wast thou lost In blindness, long ago, dreaming, some-wise, She would be true with thee, whose sin and lies Thyself had tasted in my father's place? And then, that thou wert happy, when thy ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... days Were all one pain? Thou knewest ceaselessly Her kiss a thing unclean, and she knew thee A lord so little true, so dearly won! So lost ye both, being in falseness one, What fortune else had granted; she thy curse, Who marred thee as she loved thee, and thou hers... And on thy ways thou heardst men whispering, "Lo, the Queen's husband yonder"--not "the King." And then the lie of lies that dimmed thy brow, Vaunting that by thy gold, thy chattels, Thou Wert Something; which themselves ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... are nothingness. Shadows, to clasp a moment ere they cease. The thing thou art, and not the things thou hast, Abideth, yea, and bindeth to the last Thy burden on thee: while all else, ill-won And sin-companioned, like a flower o'erblown, Flies on the wind away. Or didst them find In women ... Women?... Nay, peace, peace! The blind Could read thee. Cruel wast thou in thine hour, Lord of a great king's house, and like a tower Firm in thy beauty. Ah, that girl-like face! God grant, not that,...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... but some plain grace Of manhood to the man who brings me love: A father of straight children, that shall move Swift on the wings of War. So, get thee gone! Naught knowing how the great years, rolling on, Have laid thee bare, and thy long debt full paid. O vaunt not, if one step be proudly made In evil, that all Justice is o'ercast: Vaunt not, ye men of sin, ere at the last The thin-drawn marge before you glimmereth Close, and the goal that wheels 'twixt life and death."

[GreatGrumbledook]

[though a bit unfitting but if one is able to extract the spirit if scorn and disdain in it and apply it to the person in question it should serve well; but @wlwak if you know any better ways to insult the memory of your grandfather tell me and I will make use of them! And there is no terror in your threats, for I am arm'd so strong in honesty, that they pass by me as the idle wind which I respect not]

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: The English military authorities have send me word about the person you claim to be your grandfather, but they say about a Scot Macdonald with that certain service number by Cheshu, that he is an ass, as in the world and that they will verify as much in his beard: He has no more directions in the true disciplines of the wars, look you, of the Roman disciplines, than a puppy-dog! And he did not held the rank of Sergeant but spend the war as base scullion in Scapa Flow garrison.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: For the insult I will call you a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch: ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: ... one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition.

And spare me your harping on being Scottish, as you know surly about the English conquest of Scotland and its dire consequences, as the Scots say themselves:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"It's SHITE being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We're ruled by effete assholes. It's a SHITE state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and ALL the fresh air in the world won't make any fucking difference!"

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: No chance, English bedwetting type! And lest that brother of yours had not served on the Falkland War, I will reject your claim, besides: Divers are no soldiers, save they are employed in some secret commando unit. But to your grandfather: In what wars did he serve and in which battles; because being a commando trooper in a war and then becoming a crybaby is somewhat odd; and buster is certainly the wrong way to address me (for a certain reason); but I will quote another soldier:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"Cousin, I think thou art enamoured On his follies: never did I hear Of any prince so wild a libertine. But be he as he will, yet once ere night I will embrace him with a soldier's arm, That he shall shrink under my courtesy. Arm, arm with speed: and, fellows, soldiers, friends, Better consider what you have to do Than I, that have not well the gift of tongue, Can lift your blood up with persuasion. ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... O gentlemen, the time of life is short! To spend that shortness basely were too long, If life did ride upon a dial's point, Still ending at the arrival of an hour. An if we live, we live to tread on kings; If die, brave death, when princes die with us! Now, for our consciences, the arms are fair, When the intent of bearing them is just. ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... I thank him, that he cuts me from my tale, For I profess not talking; only this-- Let each man do his best: and here draw I A sword, whose temper I intend to stain With the best blood that I can meet withal In the adventure of this perilous day. Now, Esperance! Percy! and set on. Sound all the lofty instruments of war, And by that music let us all embrace; For, heaven to earth, some of us never shall A second time do such a courtesy."

[GreatGrumbledook]

@wlwak: Then, executioner, unsheathe thy sword: By all the Gods Romans bow before, I am resolved that your manhood lies upon your tongue! And the reason behind your statement is that you never have meet any soldiers, no wonder as there have not been a war in the English speaking world since WWII (only the Americans making fools of themselves, by using their air force, to hide the cowardice of their soldiers, as a war substitute)! And you describe them pretty well, I will quote a real soldier:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, Or close the wall up with our English dead. In peace there's nothing so becomes a man As modest stillness and humility; But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the tiger; Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage; Then lend the eye a terrible aspect; Let it pry through the portage of the head Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it As fearfully as does a ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... galled rock O'erhang and jutty his confounded base, Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean. Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide, Hold hard the breath, and bend up every spirit To his full height. On, on, you noblest English, Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof! Fathers that, like so many Alexanders, Have in these parts from morn till even fought, And sheath'd their swords for lack of argument. Dishonour not your mothers; now attest That those whom you call'd fathers ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

... did beget you. Be copy now to men of grosser blood, And teach them how to war. And you, good yeomen, Whose limbs were made in England, show us here The mettle of your pasture; let us swear That you are worth your breeding, which I doubt not; For there is none of you so mean and base, That hath not noble lustre in your eyes. I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips, Straining upon the start. The game's afoot! Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry, ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

"God for Harry! England and Saint George!"

[GreatGrumbledook]

He does not sound like a tough grizzled old soldier but some kind of dandified Nancy boy, who is afraid of wars and he is indubitably no sea-dog but the sort of pasty landlubber I have always despised. I'll warrant, the most exciting thing that has happened to this limpid prawn in a whole year, was the day when he forgot to put sugar in his porridge!

[bjmensz]

I'm glad they fixed the mic, I was thinking "oh man, I'm not watching this if I can barely hear the guy"

[Primivist]

Noam Chomsky. You are seen as god like.

[druha10304]

chomsky my hero

[gmerkens]

I don't like this woman she lookslike some hyppie in a costume, always nicking with her head like a pigeon.

[ahmedrazaqta]

Chomsky's vision is peaceful and just world which is not the case at the moment. Greatest Thinker Alive (New York Times )

[NYCNECH]

I'm so embarrassed that he gets huge audiences, wild cheers, all around the world, but here in his own country he plays to tiny stifled rooms, maybe 20 to 50 people at a time. Half the people that I know who actually know Chomsky, know it because I told them. I'm embarrassed that the Media in this country has been handed over to be used against us to the level it has been.

[amareto35]

@NYCNECH, well, if you want to watch propoganda and want to hear what you want to hear, I suggest you to watch "FOX NEWS"...

[NYCNECH]

@amareto35 Yoooou.. get that I'm pro Chomsky, right?

[t4705mb6]

Chomsky has openly denied that 911 was an inside job false flag operation MANY times. He has lost all credibility as far as I am concerned.

[mmeijer]

Chomsky for featured videos

[fivestarmichael]

Hilary nodding her head... is this because she backs the president? Is this because it was her idea and she wants everyone to know it? She is such a tool.