wow, thats just scarry. The rout setter should have really know better to use that type of hanger. It a really good idea to know what bolt hangers are our there and what stone each is disined for. yikes!
40kg is about 90 lbs. those are 24kN bolt hangers for a reason. bolts usually dont get force straight out for an extended period of time but any time you fall you are putting an outward force on a bolt for some period of time. think before you type stupid shit like that.
Pretty shocking really, if you are going to put bolts in with the idea of leaving them for others to use then put them in right, someone died because of these bolts. You can argue that the climbers should inspect their protection but what is there to inspect exactly? Ok some nuts were a bit loose on some, but that shouldnt matter much. You see a shiny new looking bolt, you clip it expecting it to be bomber, I could understand if an old badly rusted bolt failed.
lordash2000: Ok some nuts were a bit loose on some, but that shouldnt matter much.
uuum, not sure you understand how an expansion bolt works. Its strength is entirely based on how tight that nut is. If the nut is loose then its no better than a loose nail in a hole.
This is the problem a lot of climbers don't have a clue what makes a bolt safe or not.
If thats the case with these bolts then fair enough I suppose, but you could argue how is a climber on the lead meant to know if its an expansion bolt or glued in or threaded or whatever. If this is not common knowledge like you say (and I agree) then all the more reason for the people who placed the bolts to make sure they were right in the first place.
all locals know not to use expansion bolts in the sandstone surrounding Sydney... so basically all of the climbs in Sydney, Blue Mountains, Nowra, Mittagong are on glued in bolts. Lordash is right, how are you meant to know, especially considering the fact that nearly everything we climb on around here is glued in. Now that i have seen this video i know what to look for, but prior to this I would have thought it was a piece of glued in threaded bar with a fixed hanger bolted onto it.
É que a cara estaba dizendo no final - que o diámetro estava maior do que deveria ser. Talvez foi bom no início mas com o tempo o parabolt mudou e incrementou o diámetro, assim elevando o risco.
this is very uncomforting.
ClimbingCompany 1 year ago
wow, thats just scarry. The rout setter should have really know better to use that type of hanger. It a really good idea to know what bolt hangers are our there and what stone each is disined for. yikes!
aikidophreak 2 years ago
I see that the holes were about 9mm. What size were the bolts?
mcd123 2 years ago
bolts have been removed so have no fear. The area is awesome.
AdoLikesToClimb 2 years ago 5
where is this area? ill make sure not to climb there.
huyiy 2 years ago
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calgirl2 2 years ago
Thats is very bad to hear, as most people do trust bolts and need to reley on their proper installment to survive.
aktionlucky 3 years ago
40kg is about 90 lbs. those are 24kN bolt hangers for a reason. bolts usually dont get force straight out for an extended period of time but any time you fall you are putting an outward force on a bolt for some period of time. think before you type stupid shit like that.
bostonsox311 3 years ago
Pretty shocking really, if you are going to put bolts in with the idea of leaving them for others to use then put them in right, someone died because of these bolts. You can argue that the climbers should inspect their protection but what is there to inspect exactly? Ok some nuts were a bit loose on some, but that shouldnt matter much. You see a shiny new looking bolt, you clip it expecting it to be bomber, I could understand if an old badly rusted bolt failed.
Lordash2000 3 years ago
lordash2000: Ok some nuts were a bit loose on some, but that shouldnt matter much.
uuum, not sure you understand how an expansion bolt works. Its strength is entirely based on how tight that nut is. If the nut is loose then its no better than a loose nail in a hole.
This is the problem a lot of climbers don't have a clue what makes a bolt safe or not.
hhwatts 3 years ago
If thats the case with these bolts then fair enough I suppose, but you could argue how is a climber on the lead meant to know if its an expansion bolt or glued in or threaded or whatever. If this is not common knowledge like you say (and I agree) then all the more reason for the people who placed the bolts to make sure they were right in the first place.
Lordash2000 3 years ago
all locals know not to use expansion bolts in the sandstone surrounding Sydney... so basically all of the climbs in Sydney, Blue Mountains, Nowra, Mittagong are on glued in bolts. Lordash is right, how are you meant to know, especially considering the fact that nearly everything we climb on around here is glued in. Now that i have seen this video i know what to look for, but prior to this I would have thought it was a piece of glued in threaded bar with a fixed hanger bolted onto it.
zwas3917 3 years ago
your completely wrong on your reasoning here
mikebarter387 2 years ago
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Lordash2000 3 years ago
Incrível e inadmissível, a qualidade da rocha é pessima para utilizar parabolts, ou o diametro dos furos efetuados sejam maiores que os parabolts.
Lamentável
aidclimber 3 years ago
É que a cara estaba dizendo no final - que o diámetro estava maior do que deveria ser. Talvez foi bom no início mas com o tempo o parabolt mudou e incrementou o diámetro, assim elevando o risco.
midtoad 3 years ago
this is messed up... i see the rock is good so this is an issue of bolting practice eh? is this an issue of the diameter of the drilled holes etc?
edg187 3 years ago
Err, all the time Stu. Your bolts should be able to stand 2400kg force out from the wall, so for them to fail at 40kg is a BIG problem.
cragtv 3 years ago 3
Apparently the reason they're doing this is that someone rested on a bolt on this route, it ripped and they died.
Trust trad.
gavinia 3 years ago
that's some scary shit
keegan540 3 years ago
Farkin PISS weak bastards!!!
krankedjj 3 years ago