Africanchristian converts and states his SHAHADA CLEARLY!!!!

[Africanchristian]

I’ll be away for a while but:-

1-Jesus accepted worship.

2.-Many Jews do/did accept Jesus as the Son of God and part of the ‘Trinity’.

3-The Trinity is mathematically LOGICAL.

4-The Qur’an & Sunnah reveal Muhammad as susceptible to Satanic influences.

5-Muhammad's Allah is NOT the same as the Biblical YHWH.

6-Islam’s Jibril is NOT the same as the Biblical Gabriel.

7-Even if many people in 'the West' reject Christianity it does not mean that Islam is true.

8-Jesus is the only Way.

[Edin100posto]

Well If Islam is not true, then Islam will be there forever! I have a book about the day that will appear for people like thousand years.(I am Bosnian and i forgot wats the name on Englis of this day, I mean the day when all people will face Allah dž.š.)

There is standing that Islam started as a small religion and will end as a small religion. If Islam is not true, but it is, there will be Islam forever!

[Edin100posto]

Well, there are many proofs that the holy Qur'an is the word of God. And there is a video on YouTube where is a old Bible found and it proofs the holy Qur'an.

Well, you say that it is bad to give God 99 names, but it is right to say there are tree of them? You say there is one God but there are three. I do not understand how? 1 and 3. How that? That is the same to say there is one mouth you have, but there are three mouths you have.

[Africanchristian]

@Edin100posto "Well, there are many proofs that the holy Qur'an is the word of God"

Please give three.

"And there is a video on YouTube where is a old Bible found and it proofs the holy Qur'an."

This so-called Bible exists only in the youtube video.

"Well, you say that it is bad to give God 99 names"

Your statement is a lie.

[Africanchristian]

Hi. I pray for you, including those who leave insulting remarks, that you will know God through Jesus Christ the only TRUE WAY to salvation.

The God of the universe recently used me to minister to a Muslin consequently, I realised that the best way to rescue people from a destructive religion (delusion re. atheists) is to ask the True God to demonstrate His power.

So, I'll VERY SELDOM visit YouTube. busy being used by God to open blind eyes!

Jesus is Lord of All!

[specialagentash]

Still Waiting????........and waiting........and....waiting.­.....it seems either you have no response or that you are afraid?

[specialagentash]

Africanchristian

IM STILL WAITING!

are we going to exchange points of view or not?

i would like you to explain to me how can God logically become a man without it being a contradiction to the attributes of God?

[Africanchristian]

Hi. I pray for you, including those who leave insulting remarks, that you will know God through Jesus Christ the only TRUE WAY to salvation.

The God of the universe recently used me to minister to a Muslin consequently, I realised that the best way to rescue people from a destructive religion (delusion re. atheists) is to ask the True God to demonstrate His power.

So, I'll VERY SELDOM visit YouTube. busy being used by God to open blind eyes!

Jesus is Lord of All!

[fahmid2007]

Just open your bible and show me where Jesus claims he is Lord...why is it so hard to prove? All christians, please give me a verse where he claims he is god? I also pray for you to open your hearts and eyes to seek the truth..

[Africanchristian]

3of3

3) There are different lists of 99 names. Since your deity is defined by YOUR 99 names then he is different to the deity defined by someone else's 99 names.

I know that you'd like a debate but I really will not be returning for a while.

[specialagentash]

Please tell me where there are different (ARABIC) names for God in the Quran? i will be very interested to know. Good luck.

[Africanchristian]

@specialagentash You insist on Arabic names because Muhammad's deity, Allah, only speaks Arabic.

[specialagentash]

Im still waiting for you to debate me,, you think i have forgotten?

if your religion is the "only TRUE WAY" then it should be pretty easy, surely your not THAT busy to help open the eyes of a former christian like myself?

[Africanchristian]

Hi. (1of3). You comments falsely give the impression that I'm afraid to discuss with you. I draw your attention to about 8 months ago, when I had time to 'open your eyes'. I was willing to help you but you refused to remove your Islamic veil.

You had said "God to me is the 99names or attributes found in islam, and he never contradicts any of those."

YOUR 99 names are compiled by you or another Islamist. Muslims do not claim that Allah sent down the list,s so who compiles them?

[specialagentash]

They are the names you can find in the quran.

[Africanchristian]

2of3

I do want to help you, but I can only spare a few moments so I ask you to scroll back and remember that:

1) You defined YOUR God by YOUR version of Allah's 99 names. But I maintained that the God that I worship cannot be defined by your 99 (Arabic) names, 99 million names, nor any number of names.

2) To get over this impasse, I suggested that we worked with 2 OBVIOUS attributes 'omniscient' & 'omnipotent'. But YOU(!!) refused this suggestion and insisted on YOUR 99 Arabic names.

[specialagentash]

1/Please tell me which of the 99 Names OR ATTRIBUTES as it is alson known that do not agree with the christian idea of GOD?

2/NO- they are not OBVIOUS that is YOUR presupposition, if i was to agree to just 2 and leave out the rest (i.e All Merciful, All powerful, Never changing, etc) they are OBVIOUS TOO, however as i detect that you have NO argument except by using just TWO attributes, i am a little smarter than that as it is my presupposition that my God comprises the 99 Names!!!.

[Africanchristian]

@specialagentash 1. There are differing compilations of this 99 names, who compiled your version?

2. Omniscience and omnipotent ARE obvious attributes of the creator of all things Islamic veil prevents you from seeing the obvious. 

"the 99 Names"

Which 99 names? You refer to them as 'names' therefore I ask you who named the deity that you are referring to? If you say that he named himself, then I'd like you to specify the language that he used AND when human were first told these names.

[Africanchristian]

specialagentash. No list of names (99 or 99 million)can define the Creator of the universe. Therefore a reject your 99 Islamic (Arabic) names.

I suggest instead that we work with the following OBVIOUS attributes of The Creator:

Omniscient & Omnipotent.

We can use these to guage whether it's the Bible or Islamic scriptures that declare a deity that has these 2 divine attributes.

Do you agree?

We need to sort out the issue of 'God' before discussing Jesus Christ

[specialagentash]

african christian

i take it you have run away from the truth?

you were suppose to expose my false beliefs on youtube remember as you refused to chat privately???

if i dont hear a reply from you soon i take it that your whole reason why you are a christian is for no reason at all, that is if you cant defend it.

im calling you out pagan!

[jaisum]

The Bible/Koran can be used, just as long as it is understood, that they are being used as historical documents and not as any sort of divine book... (so we are placing these books in the same league as the antiquities of Josepheus, Roman historian Suetonius, etc etc) using Bible/Koran as historical documents that need to be examined and evaluated for truth using methods that are recognised by all scholars for recollecting the truth of historical events

I await your response

Peace

[jaisum]

Special Agent Ash

The access to posts section on here is becoming a little iritating...

I propose we debate outside of Youtube (as this is normally how it is done) written debate: Since Jesus is the common factor, being mentioned in both the Bible & Koran, and since the disagreement is on whether Jesus was killed and rose from the dead, I propose using HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS to clearly evaluate the life of Jesus, and you aswell, using HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS to set forth your beliefs for Jesus

[jaisum]

I would like to exactly apply the logic YOU used for Paul, to Mohammed: Mohammed gained a load of Jewish/Christian stories on his travels with his 1st wife, then twisted them to suit his needs as he sought to establish a monotheitic religion that would conquor the polytheistc religions. He made up his stories reg angel gabriel to make his story more authentic.

If this seems weird to you, then think how weird your assertions are to me when you have NO EVIDENCE!!!

Peace out!

[jaisum]

Again - assertion without evidence

With the documents we have, and with no earlier documents which state otherwise, we can trust the gospels, the written tradtions and the oral traditions. Logic to me is based upon thorough historical evidence. I don't see the same for you. You make to many allegations without any decent evidence and poorly constucted arguments.

Show me evidence the message was hijacked. Otherwise your assertions are severely lacking and based only on your heavy bias.

[jaisum]

Now, for one to still disagree with Jesus death/resurrection in spite of the evidence, and at the same time show no/little evidence for why they disbelieve, I am afraid that the unbelievers conclusion is not one made on logic and historical evaluation, but purely on unwarranted bias.

So, regardless of the "copyist" errors, remember what the N.T HUGELY does agrees on: Jesus as Messiah, His miracles, Death and Ressurection and conversions of those who knew Him. Think Deeply about this

Peace

[specialagentash]

the letters of the NT can be considered the equivilant of a newspaper article that got mass copied by hand and circulated around the roman empire.

Logic to you and logic to me can be completley different therefore you should not assume that i have to come to the same conclusion as you. The fact remains is that you do not have the original documents to compare with total accuracy the content and the original intentions of the writers. it will never be known if the original message was hijacked

[jaisum]

The earlier the source, and the more sources there are, then the more reliable they are. And this method of evaluating history is used not just for the N.T., but for anything that is in Antiquity (be it ancient Greek world, ancient roman world, etc).

Thus using logical evaluation, historical evidence and methods, I know I can trust what the N.T says about Jesus more than the documents that came about later on (such as gnostic writhngs, Christian enemies writings, and the Korans writings).

[specialagentash]

You reply indicates that the NT is sound based on the age of a document. therefore i pose my question again for you to answer

"excluding Pauls letters as he never met Jesus (only had a vision) what is the age of the earliest FULL munscripts that you have today?

Using your argument can i then assert that the hindu texts are more valid than the NT and bible? shall we believe them seeing that this is your suggestion?

[jaisum]

You can assert what you like, but you are "putting words in my mouth" and as usual you are making all sorts of allegations without solid historical evidence.

What Hundu events do you have in mind?? and what is the closest dated manuscript that alludes the the specific hindu event?? I would be interested to know...

[jaisum]

... considering it was written 700 years after Jesus life, there is no way I can trust its statements about Jesus. Using the methods a historian uses, I can know the N.T. has multiple INDEPENDENT documents, by different people, in different locations, all within 1st century claiming the death and Ressurection of Jesus, and even these are based on oral tradtions dating earlier (as mention already)to the time of Jesus on earth. This evidence is 100x more reliable than the korans version of Jesus.

[jaisum]

... So within 2/3 years a strong creedal affirmation had become an oral tradition for believers. And this oral traditional was put together by the original disciples of Jesus who claimed to have seen Him alive and well after He had been killed on the cross. There is so much more detail to go into about this BEAR IN MIND - I am not even using the Bible as the Word of God (at this moment) I am using it only as pieces of historical documents. Now, if I see the Koran as just a historical document...

[jaisum]

... allude to Jesus statments regarding his humanity and divinity. We have clear statements in 1 Corinthians ch15, of a creed LEARNED by Paul (not invented by him) of the death and ressurection of Christ, and this is written around 50-55AD. But Paul LEARNED this actual creed from Peter and the others from when Paul made his first visit to Jerusalem as a BELEIVER, around 2-3 years afer Jesus death/ ressurection. Even skeptics agree on this (such as the Jesus seminar)...

[specialagentash]

How do you know it was not invented by paul? He would surely now what the original message of jesus was from the beleiving jews that followed him. Paul was fully capable of spinning this message around creating the death story and creating an corrupted gospel that compliments his letters (seeing that his are the earliest we have)he couldv done this to incite political revolution as the romans and jews where almost every1 was religious. Of course Paul would have to make sure his story fits!

[jaisum]

How do I know? Because of evidence. If you believe something to the contrary, provide your evidence Paul made it up. He had meetings with original disciples who were personal friends w/Jesus (whilst He was on earth) so he would know what He was talking about reg the death/Ressurection of Christ. There is no other robust explanation for Pauls conversion from persecuting Christians, to becoming one and being persecuted and killed for believing in Jesus. These are historical facts. Where are yours?

[jaisum]

Hi

As soon as you say "I believe"... followed by assertion, then you need evidence to back up your claim. Again, you have merely made a statement without providing any evidence. So it would be interesting for you to provide some evidence or a decent argument.

Sure, the earliest copies of manuscripts have copyist errors. But, none are so significant to cause any trouble for a traditional Christian. The life, death & Ressurection of Jesus are not affected, neither are statments that...

[specialagentash]

Sure, the earliest copies of manuscripts have copyist errors. But, none are so significant to cause any trouble for a traditional Christian.

So willl you agree that the bible is not 100%accurate in comparison to the original manuscripts seeing you have just made this statement? at least 99.99%?

and by the way excluding Pauls letters as he never met Jesus (only had a vision) what is the age of the earliest FULL munscripts that you have today? (i know this but i wonder if you do)

[jaisum]

Paul had a vison of the REAL Jesus. Your assertion (once again) is with bias and little evidence.

And he also met those who knew Jesus personally (read on further to my post)

If the Bible is 99.99%accurate, why should that make a difference to the death, ressurection of Jesus? and His Divine claims? They are not affected at all by any discrepancies within the Bible

[jaisum]

ALso I can and will quote scripture. If you say it is "corrupted" you have made an assertion. Now back up the assertion with evidence. You must back up your assertions with clear evidence. If you can't do so, you really should not post things like "Do not post scripture".

Prove there are corruptions to John 1.1 - 1.14, Proverbs 8.22... Find the very original manuscripts and compare them to later ones and see if there is any difference.

Also, the 99 names of allah do NOT contain "Savoiur"

[specialagentash]

I believe that your bible has been corrupted will you not agree that the copies you have today have copyist errors at the very least???

i could say the same to you FIND ME the original mauscripts the ones that were inspired! not the copies that are not. untill then you and i can only disagree.

Also, jesus never said he was "God" you only interpret his words as such. so whats your point with the saviour comment?

[jaisum]

Hi Specialagentash

Your point is revealing that we have 2 different concepts of God. I believe in an all powerful God who could send his Son/Word to become completey man, whilst at the same time letting mankind have freewill. Your point is also very flawed e.g you say why can't God choose to be evil, forgetful, tired etc... Well I quoted the reason earlier. God is all Loving. THerefore He wouldn't allow Himself to be "evil"etc... So I have not contradicted myself

[specialagentash]

Your point is also flawed e.g you say why cant God choose to be mortal, tired etc...well i have quoted the reason earlier. God is ALL POWERFUL. therefore he wouldnt contradict Himself to be "mortal"etc.. so you have contradicted himself.

see my point? if you can present me with a case that is not self refuting then i shall be impressed.

[specialagentash]

Do you believe that Jesus was both a man and God at the same time? How is this possible?

[jaisum]

You asking how that is possible is really like saying " I am putting limits on what God can do because I don't understand Him".

Jesus is the incarnation of the Living Wisdom of God, that is also God too (John 1.1 - John 1.14, Proverbs 8.22) Jesus is also purely human. If you think this cannot be achieved by God, this is your own prejudice/bias against a God who is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent and All-Loving.

So the question to you is, "Why can't God do this?"

Peace

[specialagentash]

NO that wasnt my question, if you acccept that God has not set limits for HIMSELF then you must accept that God can choose to evil, forgetful, tired etc because "why cant God do this"???

the answer is simply it contradicts the very basic attributes of God. So a contradiction to these attributes means this is NOT a God.

Please dont quote scripture as the parts you quote may be corrupted

[Africanchristian]

specialagentash. Our deal is that I engage with a question from you and you engage with a question from me.

Firstly, let's clarify a point ; what do you mean by God?

[specialagentash]

God to me is the 99names or attributes found in islam, and he never contradicts any of those.

what is your definition of God?

[Africanchristian]

specialagentash. I followed with great interest your discussions with jaisum. He is keen to have an 'off-youtube' discussion with you - the very thing that you wanted to have with me but I was not willing. I wanted to discuss with you openly - and still will.

I have a strong sensing that you will gain a lot by discussing with jaisum.

[Africanchristian]

"God to me is the 99names or attributes found in islam, and he never contradicts any of those."

This idolatory is the very thing that Jesus came to set people free from. The abundance of evidence reveal that Muhammad's prophethood, his Allah and the Qur'an are not of divine origin.

"what is your definition of God? "

No human being can define the Creator of the universe - we can only know him by what he reveals about himself.

No list of divine attributes can define the Creator.

[specialagentash]

Africanchristian

"No human being can define the Creator of the universe - we can only know him by what he reveals about himself."

"No list of divine attributes can define the Creator"

This is self refuting and i would like you to give it some thought and have the opportunity to change this comment before i reply.

If the concept of god is totally dependant upon what man writes on paper then u must concede that the ecyptians, greeks and hundus etc are also correct.

[Africanchristian]

I look forward to your response to my comments in context!

[specialagentash]

can you please answer my question that i have asked for the third time!

if you wish to continue debating the concept of God we can if you wish but please do not evade my question.

please state which of the 99 names of Allah you reject please followed by where in mainstream christianity it teaches to reject it?

you claim it to be idolatary and i would like to know where it teaches such? do you not worship god in the form of a creation therefore fitting the description of idolatary?

[Africanchristian]

pecialagentash. No list of names (99 or 99 million)can define the Creator of the universe. Therefore I reject your 99 Islamic (Arabic) names.

I suggest instead that we work with the following OBVIOUS attributes of The Creator:

Omniscient & Omnipotent.

We can use these to gauge whether it's the Bible or Islamic scriptures that declare a deity that has these 2 divine attributes.

Do you agree?

We need to sort out the issue of 'God' before discussing Jesus Christ

[specialagentash]

Ah so this is what you do?

Insist that you have just 2 attributes that you consider OBVIOUS (which u havnt explained why yet) in order for you to have an argument. U dont get the response u want and therefore result in repeating yourself.

The basic concept of Gods attributes in Christianity and Islam are similar save 1 the attribute that the islamic God does not contradict these attributes.

I therefore wish 4 u 2 continue, but I shall not limit Gods attributes "in context" to just 2!

[specialagentash]

im still waiting

Your Comment

"I suggest instead that we work with the following OBVIOUS attributes of The Creator:

Omniscient & Omnipotent." you see the issue i have here is that you as a christian have a set of attributes that you believe about God, you have a template, for you to say that the only 2 that are obvious, well they may be to you bu not to an atheist, i ask you then again. please answer my question now, how can God become a man without it being a contradiction.

[specialagentash]

im still waiting?:-)

[Africanchristian]

specialagentash. I will return here every 2 days or so. I will post a few new comments for you to ponder and respond to.

[peacechild61]

wow, thats a great vid, you have great Bible knowledge and of Quran..God will bless you that you are revealing His Truth. I am a Christian too, from Sudan..peace and blessings on ur house,brother

[fahmid2007]

Your bible is filth and disgusting with lot of flaws which was written by half-cooked historians

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007 "Your bible is filth and disgusting with lot of flaws which was written by half-cooked historians "

Foolish ramblings!

Intelligent Muslims (of which I've encountered many) at least engage in discussions but you expose your lack in this area.

[Africanchristian]

Q2

1.Muhammad had gone into a cave and then a spirit-being came to him.

2.This spirit-being did not give it's name nor the name of the one who sent it to Muhammad.

3.This spirit-being commanded Muhammad to read/recite "in the name of your lord".

5.Muhammad was an idol-worshipper.

Therefore, which of the of the idols in the Ka'ba was Muhammad's lord AND what trustworthy evidence is there that this spirit was not an evil spirit?

[fahmid2007]

U need to find a Muslim Scholar who's duty is to clarify all this..Unfortunatly I am a Junior Doctor trying to save lives and dont have time for this..please go to a scholar who will guide you to the straight path and save u from a dirty scripture of yours..

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007.

What is not clear here, is the arrogant, racist and insulting way that you communicated with me via messages. You had the audacity to, then, present your foolish Islamic arguments.

Now you back out of the humiliation that I would have visited on your Islamic foolishness, by claiming to be a junior doctor etc.

How can you, who are walking in darkness, save any life??

[fahmid2007]

Us Muslims are special and very fortunate. Look at the history...you say darkness? when Europe was going throgh dark ages, Muslim Doctors were operating eye surgeries in the Middlleast...You African's have not contributed any thing frankly..cos u have no civilisation and all of you are uneducated..seek knowledge, turn away from darkness to light..turn to truth from false..

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007 "You African's have not contributed any thing frankly..cos u have no civilisation and all of you are uneducated..seek knowledge, turn away from darkness to light..turn to truth from false"

Your racist Islamic ignorance is coming out now.

[fahmid2007]

Wrong, just showing you the facts and reality. I know its very harsh. If you become a Muslim then, you will be a Prince in the eye of Muslim world and you will get to experiance the universial love and brotherhood, which you and your Christian friends never experianced and will never will..Islam is the fastest growing religion..Its a fact!!

[Africanchristian]

"If you become a Muslim then, you will be a Prince in the eye of Muslim world "

No thanks! Satan offered a similar thing to Jesus. This is the Second time that you have offered a Satanic thing to me.

It is the 'eyes' of YHWH that i want to please.

Regarding your other comments, I wanted to discuss the Qur'an with you but you ran away. Instead you continue to make silly dubious assertions.

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007

1. Moses & Aaron are brothers & biological sons of Imram.

2. In Surah 19, Mary is called the sister of Aaron.

3. Mary is called the daugter of Imran -Surah 66:12.

4.The wife of Imran is the mother of Mary Surah 3:35.

Why does the Qur'an not realise that Mary was separated by 100s of years from Aaron, Moses, and Imran?

[DefenderOfGaza]

@fahmid2007

"You African's have not contributed any thing frankly..cos u have no civilisation and all of you are uneducated"

You are not even bad educated ignorant muslim, but even a racist too...!!

Please if you don't have the knowledge like Allah(t) asks us in Quran to have, namely WISDOM and GOOD ADMONISHMENT when calling ppl to Islam, then PLEASE keep silent and seek frist knowledge of Dawa.

May Allah guide us all. Amin

[fahmid2007]

I do apologise. I must have written it whilst I was angry. I am glad that you are following Islam how it's meant to be followed and I hope people follow your example. May Allah reward your good intention.

[DefenderOfGaza]

@fahmid2007

Your Apologize is an honor for me. Because this is the example of our Prophet(s).

I am proud of you, to be my muslim brother.

I have learned a lot from your "Apologize".

May Allah reward you too.

[Africanchristian]

Hi. I pray for you, including those who leave insulting remarks, that you will know God through Jesus Christ the only TRUE WAY to salvation.

The God of the universe recently used me to minister to a Muslin consequently, I realised that the best way to rescue people from a destructive religion (delusion re. atheists) is to ask the True God to demonstrate His power.

So, I'll VERY SELDOM visit YouTube. busy being used by God to open blind eyes!

Jesus is Lord of All!

[YHR9]

Great manners Akhi..

This is it why we are muslims.

[Africanchristian]

Hi. I pray for you, including those who leave insulting remarks, that you will know God through Jesus Christ the only TRUE WAY to salvation.

The God of the universe recently used me to minister to a Muslin consequently, I realised that the best way to rescue people from a destructive religion (delusion re. atheists) is to ask the True God to demonstrate His power.

So, I'll VERY SELDOM visit YouTube. busy being used by God to open blind eyes!

Jesus is Lord of All!

[VoyageIslam]

MUHUMMED (pbuh): Is a true prophet of God according to the Bible (a) " . . Every spirit (meaning every prophet) that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is of God 1 JOHN 4.2 Compare with Holy Qur'an 3:45 and many other Qur'anic references where Jesus (pbuh) is referred to as the CHRIST.

[Africanchristian]

VoyageIslam. "(meaning every prophet) "

Why are you adding to what the verse says??

The scripture passage that you refer to, does not teach what you assert!

A reading of the whole of 1 John, reveals Muhammad as a false prophet.

Do you want to discuss this?

[Africanchristian]

VoyageIslam. You know very well that I've defeated you before vis a vis this argument.

I defeated you when you manifested as 'Exchristian', 'Crossfire', 'anotherexchristian'.....etc

[fahmid2007]

What a Load of half cooked info...u are a complete idiot and ur "research" s very poor! Just look at the videos on the right, related videos, what d u see? People are converting to Islam, so your stupid has no value and Allah is guiding ppl who ever watching this stupid video..Ur filthy bible is so corrupt that it promotes Incest, violence, etc..Disgusting and how can u love Jesus more then Muslim? Good try, but We Muslims are worth more then u false beliving ppl..

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007 "u are a complete idiot "

And you are obviously a Muslim.

"Ur filthy bible is so corrupt that it promotes Incest, violence, etc"

You lie - unless you provide clear evidence.

[fahmid2007]

GE 19:30-38 Lot's daughters have sexual intercourse with him while he is drunk and both become pregnant by their father.

GE 38:13 Tamar plays the role of a harlot in order to have sexual intercourse with her father-in-law. She conceives and twins are born.

GE 29:16 Jacob marries both Leah and her sister Rachel. He has children by both Leah and Rachel's maid Bilhah, but Rachel remains barren. Due apparently to Rachel's generosity to her husband, the Lord eventually allows Rachel to conceive

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007 .

I've noted the three verses that you posted and I will COMPREHENSIVELY respond to each one.

Meanwhile, please respond to my Q1, Q2 and Q. Thanks.

[Africanchristian]

Q1.

1. Moses & Aaron are brothers & biological sons of Imram.

2. In Surah 19, Mary is called the sister of Aaron.

3. Mary is called the daugter of Imran -Surah 66:12.

4.The wife of Imran is the mother of Mary Surah 3:35.

Why does the Qur'an not realise that Mary was separated by 100s of years from Aaron, Moses, and Imran?

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007 "ur "research" s very poor!"

Please do EXCELLENT RESEARCH and have a go at refuting the following 3 questions. Please use ONLY the Bible or Islamic scriptures. I welcome your 3 questions.

[Africanchristian]

Q3

A person swearing an oath does so by something greater than himself or by something that he has no control over.

Allah swears by:-

The winds Qur'an 77:1

The city 90:1

The Sun, Moon, Day, Night,..91:1-

Pen 68:1

ETC

Allah is therefore not omnipotent.

The greatest oath for a believer is to invoke the name of his deity. Why does allah encourage animists to swear by invoking the name of their idols (since Allah himself swears by these i.e Sun, moon, etc)?

[playerofdeath]

you didnt get the point here..

Allah is swearing by these things, because they are in truth...

[Africanchristian]

playerofdeath "Allah is swearing by these things, because they are in truth... "

It is also truth that Hilary Clinton is a woman, will Allah swear by her?

[playerofdeath]

I am not qualified to answer ur questsion, because I am not God, and i dont want to lie against God.

[DefenderOfGaza]

@fahmid2007

If you are real educated muslim, you would not use these "useless" bad words and calling other ppl with names and cause them pain.

I feel shame and sorry for people like you who has no islamic manner when telling others about Ilsma.

If your read Quran carefully you will find a verse that apply on you.

[Africanchristian]

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[fahmid2007]

I did sir...it doesn't change any thing...I have recently Anhilated a Christian Missionary in front of about 50 ppl who had no answers and was confused..Those Christians are so put off and angry that there Christian missionary team was defeated by a simple muslim...I have yet to see a Christian Scholar winning a debate against a Muslim Sholar..so please, u are just wasting time..Ur better off with a ZULU religion then Christianity sir!!

[Africanchristian]

fahmid2007 "I have recently Anhilated a Christian Missionary in front of about 50 ppl who had no answers and was confused."

I promise you that it is you who will be disgraced if you take me on.

"Ur better off with a ZULU religion then Christianity sir!! "

You've now brought out into the open what you and a few other Muslims have been saying to me via messages.