I was in Michigan on a road trip last month and I noticed the same transition when I crossed from Dearborn to Detroit. From there, its advisable to pretty much lock your doors and have pepper spray handy.
Every time I go there I can't believe the contrast between areas. Thats what happens when everyone starts going to the suburbs. Grosse Point is such a high class area compared to Detroit. I still love Detroit. Too bad most don't. If everyone would group together and quit being children Detroit could be great once again. It'll likely never happen though. At least not in my lifetime.
There's a lot of racist assholes in metro Detroit. Blacks did not cause the downfall of Detroit, it was white people turning their backs on the city and fleeing to the suburbs. And it's also the fact that you guys depend on a declining auto manufacturing economy. The rest of the country thinks that metro Detroit is an utter joke, which it is... albeit a very tragic one.
I grew up in GP during the 80's/90's. Back when Detroit really was America's most dangerous city. We were close enough to smell the burning houses on Devil's Night. I used to hear automatic weapons being fired at night. With that said, GP was a very insulated world from all of this. Most of the kids I grew up with were polo shirt wearing douchebags who had no inkling of the violent world that existed beyond the alter road border. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
@arobbie1997- my house is in this vid. i live in grosse pointe park. in the video past alter is Detroit and driving down jefferson is no big deal i do it almost everyday its just when you go a few blocks in on streets like Chalmers if they dont know u,ur gonna get fucked with and most likely robbed ive driven around down there its a shady ass place.dont act like detroit is all safe and shit. its not dont go fucking around down there.
I'm from a nicer suburb in Oakland county and i'm surprised how Grosse point has not gone down the tubes along with Detroit. Im surprised how so much affluence can exist in such proximity to such a depressed area. Oh well, i guess that's the same with Pontiac and Bloomfield hills as well. Can't wait to move the hell out of this state.
@golecmax GP has gone down the tubes. All of the metro Detroit suburbs have because they have, believe it or not, a symbiotic relationship with the city. I left Michigan a long time ago and never looked back.
Black people isn't why Detroit went down, Detroit's biggest source of labor was the automotive industry, and when the japanese cars etc. came with much more affordable cars, people started buying those instead, its as simple as that. Companies had to fire people until they went bankrupt, which made most of the citizens jobless. This has nothing to do with races, thats just a lame bullshit excuse.. I'm not black myself, but i don't understand why some ignorant racists blame them. Lame excuse guys
This is the most vivid thing about detroit, I've been down that exact street several times. The D is even stranger now with all those cleared blocks of grass, areas that look like rural MIssissippi right in the middle of town.... definitely unique. The GP side doesnt have any visible security. If this were in NYC there would be a ton of armed security with checkpoints, dogs and M14s
@holmanadvantage No, it completely means that one place is more dangerous than the other. You're not posting this to be racist, you're posting it because political correctness has clouded your ability to think rationally. To say that Detroit has just as much crime as grosse pointe is idiotic. You're a fucking idiot
@TheGhostOfHumanLogic and you have no logic, but you pretend to on youtube. I like how you ended your "intellegent" little.......COMMENT with.....you're a fucking idiot.....I think we know who the real idiot is.
@A2KID420 Yes, I'm the idiot for suggesting that Detroit is more dangerous than Grosse Pointe lol. I think any and every statistic would agree with me more than you, you fucking idiot. Through 2001-2008 there was 1 murder in Grosse Pointe, in 2009 there were 379 homicides in Detroit, idiot. I would love to use a successful black city as an example for crime statistics but unfortunately there are none.
@TheGhostOfHumanLogic whatever I GET IT. I GET IT BROTHRRRR. Detroit is more dangerous than gross point. What I was trying to say is that you are trying to spread your beliefs by being a vulgar little fuck and calling people idiots on you tube, fuck off gangsta bitch.
@A2KID420 I know you love to blame slavery for all of your problems since you haven't been a victim of slavery in any way, shape or form, and that you're living better than 90% of your fellow africans who weren't brought to the U.S. so be grateful for the sacrifices and hardships your relatives had to endure instead of using it as an excuse to be an asshole. Not to mention we didn't just steal black people, most of them were sold to us by other black tribal leaders.
@TheGhostOfHumanLogic what the fuck ever we still went up into africa and threatened to kill them, they sold us somebody else so we took them. eventually we turned on most of them, your a little faggot racist cock you douche drunk ass bitch ass mother fuck you
@A2KID420 I'm calling people idiots because they're saying idiotic things, it's not trying to be gangsta asshole it's me calling an idiot an idiot. Lol and your last statement doesn't make any sense at all. Try to speak english and form a coherent sentence sport
@A2KID420 So enough with playing the victim role, I never owned slaves, my relatives weren't in the country during the time of slavery, you were never a slave, just stop. The reason why the black community hasn't progressed collectively to any level of success is because instead of taking responsibility for shitty behavior you blame whitey and then demand that he gives you a handout. Look at any community the blacks are given and allowed to run, you don't build it up, you don't treat it well.
@A2KID420 Not to mention, there's 2nd generation immigrants who speak better english than most black people, and instead of admitting that most of the black community doesn't speak proper english you put a stupid ass name on misspeaking like ebonics and demand we accept it. The reason the black community hasn't achieved any level of success as a group in this country is because you refuse to assimilate to this country, and would rather blame whitey than take any responsibility for anything.
@A2KID420 Hah, the A2 clearly signifies that you are from AnnArbor and 420 likely that you are a stoner (classic annarborite). After spending 18 years in Grosse Pointe and the last 4 in Ann Arbor I have a clear perspective on both towns. I am still currently living in Ann Arbor but hope to move soon. It epitomizes the most fake and idealistic town that would crumble into nothingness should the University of Michigan not exist.
@A2KID420 Ann Arbor's lifeline is tied to wealth from other towns and wealthy East Coast children that attend the school. Aside from that it has very little self-sufficiency unless you travel far from campus. Thus since it lies in a college built town it is the most unrealistic and idealistic area possible. Hence bringing forth its nickname: The People's Republic of Ann Arbor. 95% of graduates I know look back and laugh at how ignorant and naive they were while living there.
@taurenspwn It doesn't necessarily have to do with race. Crime is prevalent in poor areas and blacks are more likely to be poor, because of a century of de facto and de jure discrimination. If you grow up poor, you are likely to be poor your whole life. White people left Detroit in the 50's and 60's because of court ordered desegregation of schools and busing and be
actually the stretch of Jefferson from Alter down towards Downtown isnt really as bad as some areas. And going to concernts at the filmore is a lot differnt than actually living and working in the city, as much as I love it, and I do love Detroit, there are some areas you just stay the fuck out of, but this isnt one. This isn't 7&Chalmers or E.Warren&Chene, this is A GOOD neighborhood in Detroit. This is Indian Village and the E.English Village.
@holmanadvantage thank you for the post, I understand and see the visual contrast btw the cities, I have lived in both- and it seems senseless for two cities to be so close and look like night and day in some areas.
I live @ 1:00. That border will never change. People who live in this neighborhood pride it like their own child. That's why I moved here. One day I hope the role is reversed where the good seeps into the bad. I see that as possible future.
Then when ALL the productive people move there and it passes every other nation in the world MAYBE, just maybe, America will get it's head out of it's ass and throw these socialist "ideals" into the fucking trash. You whine about entrepreneurs "exploiting" people but where would they be without them? Jobless and running around like it's the goddamn stone age again. In my opinion every man woman and child should read ATLAS SHRUGGED by Ayn Rand
gp1940 ayn rand is wrong. that libertarian nonsense has never worked anywhere. haiti and somalia are perfect examples ofunregulated everything with no government involvolvment.free markets dont cure anything . they eat everything alive
@eriet1 Your examples of the "Free Market" are incorrect. In capitalism the government has three main functions: Maintain an army to preserve order/protect, Prevent fraud, and to establish a common currency (gold backed works best usually). Somalian and Hatian governments do none of these. What they have is anarchy and warlords. For you to say that they are "Free" is an absolutely ridiculous staement.
@GP1940 It's not entrepreneurs who exploit people, it's big businessmen who you probably believe should have to follow absolutely no rules. They should be able to do whatever they need to do to make as much money as they possibly can for themselves, who cares if it means hurting others, right?
It honestly makes me cringe what people have began to believe in the past 2 decades. People have a "right" to healthcare??? A private sevice provided? By what standard are you basing this "right?" You have conjured it up out of nothing without facts or any constitutional backing. You feel it would be "nice" for the harder working to pay for it for everyone so you're willing to screw over the minority party. I WISH there was one nation that was purely capitalist.
Additionally I also will hold my ground. Not a chance of me moving out of GP & giving it up to Detroiters. Most of my friends feel the same way. Whoever posted the comment about the government taking care of people and them treating their homes shitty as a result hit the issue right on the mark. Socialism breeds apathy. "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
that's just amazing. Such a stark contrast between the afluent "suburb" and the city. I didn't know the border was that visible. have to check that out when I visit next March.
Jefferson doesn't run to saint clair shores. If you are coming from detroit, Jefferson Ave. turns innto Lakeshore Drive in the middle of Grosse Pointe City at the street, Cadiuex.
FrankeeFraud, it's Nazis like you who committed the worst crimes in history...Detroit looks great compared to almost every city in Europe in 1945...White supremacists, just like you, killed tens of millions of people... it's a shame your parents weren't among them.
Your argument makes no sense whatsoever. Please use logic when you argue. Additionally Hitler was not a "white supremacist" he was a derranged lunatic German supremacist looking for a scapegoat t blame their economic problems on. Jewish people are white in case you forgot...
im 12 years old and i live in grosse pointe. One night, i remember going down alter road seeing nothing but gangs, crackhouses and destroyed buildings. One night i recall driving along alter only to see a man from grosse pointe getting beat by the gang known as the crips. amy dad always says that when he grew up in GPP, Detroit was just as safe as Grosse Pointe
@holmanadvantage i beg to differ.. detroit is mostly a folk city. with the exception of the northeastern part between 7 mile and 8 and gratiot to kelly which is know as the red zone ran by the 7 Mile Bloods
@arobbie1997 - I wont deny there is crime/violence in Detroit, but that exist in every city. I agree with holmanadvantage- There are NO crips in Detroit, especially in the area you are speaking of.
@arobbie1997 I am a 14 year old caucasian growing up in Detroit. It is certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. I love the city, I have never experienced violence or crime, and this video was taken just about 2 miles from my home. Yes, I will admit, there are a lot of downfalls, but there are so many things to make up for that, Detroit shines in many ways.
@arobbie1997 I am a 14 year old caucasian growing up in Detroit. It is certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. I love the city, I have never experienced violence or crime, and this video was taken just about 2 miles from my home. Yes, I will admit, there are a lot of downfalls, but there are so many things to make up for that, Detroit shines in many ways.
@arobbie1997 I am a 14 year old Caucasian female growing up on Detroit's East Side. I love my city and I have, personally, never seen an act of crime or violence in the city. This video was taken about 2 miles from my house and its not as bad as it is made out to be. Yes, I will admit, there are downfalls, but there is so much to make up for that. There are so many people coming into the city to revitalize and improve, it is coming back!
@arobbie1997! Well if you seen a man from grosse pointe getting beat down in Detroit, he was buying some dope! Its more dope heads in GP than you know about! Grosse pointe is a white dreamland that insulates you from the rest of the world , Its a false life in a city! And don't say gangs say drug dealers lol O yea there not Crips!
a friend who grew up there in 70s, his parents owned a family car on the corner of Chalmers and Jefferson, you can see Jefferson crossing Chalmers at one point.
Very similar to the stark contrast between Houston's midtown and it's neighboring 3rd Ward. Great footage. Detroit may have fallen victim to the de-industrialization of our country, but underneath the blight lies the grandeur of it's former glory. A glorious past that should never be forgotten. Despite it's decrepit state, to me the Detroit is still a one of the greatest cities ever erected in American soil, and one very deserving of a rapid rehabilitation and preservation.
@mengele800 Detroit fell victim to white people leaving. They're not coming back, the city will never be revitalized, and it will always be shit. The moment white people try to get involved in an aspect of rebuilding detroit the blacks in the city freak out and start bitching about how they want to run their own city, because they've done a spectacular job thus far. Give it about 20 more years and detroit's gonna look like Haiti, these animals dont know how to take care of their shit
6 months ago i lived in Grosse Pointe Shores. even got a pic of clint eastwood when he was shooting next door. i got sick of the colorfulplace and moved. haha
Jefferson ave drive from saint Clair shores to Detroit. How can raw video footage lie. If you live in metro Detroit how can you deny the contrast between gross point and Detroit also learn some grammar dip shit.
When Detroit was a White city, it was clean, civilized, safe, with a good school system, etc. Negroes came to power, and now look at it. Coincidence? I think not.
as for Grosse point its sad that its starting to become unsafe if the car companies don't get bailed out there goes Grosse point the area has already been "slipping" their real estate market is getting cheaper ex.. 12k sqft mansion WOW!!! only 900k why so cheap well you guessed it.. its because their are nicer areas to be in than in a dying out city its sad but its the truth
rate I don't think so.. I am not a racist so don't accuse me of it the government is not supposed to take care of people unless they really need it(mental problems etc..) there is no such thing as " I don't have to work the government will take care of me" that kind of mentality is what contributes to these cities dying out ex.. the government gives you housing since its not yours you feel like you don't have to take care of it and over time it deteriorates..
You hate to be racist.. but long ago Detroit used to be a thriving wealthy city then came the blacks all the people who wanted to make something out of their life left or moved to the suburbs and the blacks took over the city deteriorating it into what it is now its happened to a lot of southern cities too they die out because of this no one wants to live in an area with high crime thats why the areas economies die out would a company move to a city that has horrible schools and a high crime ra
@taurenspwn It doesn't necessarily have to do with race. Crime is prevalent in poor areas and blacks are more likely to be poor, because of a century of de facto and de jure discrimination. If you grow up poor, you are likely to be poor your whole life. White people left Detroit in the 50's and 60's because of court ordered desegregation of schools and busing and because of race riots. So it is just as much the fault of white people as it is black.
I just drove this yesterday and it is as dramatic as portrayed in the video. But the cops in Detroit where out in force....giving everybody tickets for not wearing seat belts..go figure.
Although I've not seen this on the web, there are supposedly photographs of the National Guard with tanks and APC's at Altier Avenue, protecting Grosse Point during the riots of 1967.
Hard to believe, but that section of Detroit was once a safe, clean part of the Motor City, where people (White, of course, predominantly Italian, as I recall). People worked, went to school, minded their own business, took care of their children, houses, and neighborhood in general. Could go months without seeing a cop car with sirens. Now look at what the Negroes did to it- let's hear it for equality!
@FrankeeFraud maybe if white people didnt ENSLAVE black people there wouldnt be as much racial tention. and also consider them inferior and PASS LAWS giving them less of a right to freedom
Slavery? So THAT"S why Negroes ruin every city, school system, or neighborhood they touch? Even the Negroes themselves realize that's a crock of shit. And so do you, you pathetic little Jew boy!
That's it, asshead, tax the shit out of productive Whites, and give it to all the lazy, sex-crazed, lawless Negroes of Detroit, so they can breed even more illegitimate mokeys! Makes sense to me, too! Riiiight.
HEY! I live in Grosse Pointe and it is a very nice and safe place. We are lucky. There is no need to say that we are stuck up because we aren not. And don't trash Detroit either. Gosh, some people!
grosse pointe is nice but too close to the ghetto. if i were to drop millions on a home it would be in oakland county. maybe birmingham or bloomfield hills...
They don't even need a "Welcome to Detroit" sign. Just look up when you see a filthy neighborhood, with a bunch a lazy, good-for-nothing apes sitting around doing NOTHING. I see no future for this race whatsoever. None.
one, you spelled Grosse Pointe wrong, and two, if you're driving down Jefferson, you're gonna see changes from the suburbia to a city, it's different, we don't have tall buildings and they do so do your research next time you ahole
BrianTheLion, That was a very ignorant comment. There are plenty of nice places in Detroit. You just don't want to open your mind, or eyes and see them.
It's gotten worse! i say we put the fence back up quick before property values go down more than they already have due to the sh**ty economy. My house is worth four million and it better stay that way!!!
Actually, it is highly unusual. Detroit is by far the worst and most ruined city in this nation. I don't know where you've been, but I have never seen anything worse than Detroit. And I have seen the bad days of New York first hand.
Well, at least the buildings are still standing.
RickBeall 2 weeks ago
Hey you spelled Grosse Pointe wrong and for that reason I dislike it
NSHPredators12 2 weeks ago
detroits not that bad pusses
ovechkinXcapital 4 months ago
I was in Michigan on a road trip last month and I noticed the same transition when I crossed from Dearborn to Detroit. From there, its advisable to pretty much lock your doors and have pepper spray handy.
achm3d 6 months ago
Every time I go there I can't believe the contrast between areas. Thats what happens when everyone starts going to the suburbs. Grosse Point is such a high class area compared to Detroit. I still love Detroit. Too bad most don't. If everyone would group together and quit being children Detroit could be great once again. It'll likely never happen though. At least not in my lifetime.
plaguex1 9 months ago
There's a lot of racist assholes in metro Detroit. Blacks did not cause the downfall of Detroit, it was white people turning their backs on the city and fleeing to the suburbs. And it's also the fact that you guys depend on a declining auto manufacturing economy. The rest of the country thinks that metro Detroit is an utter joke, which it is... albeit a very tragic one.
evillurkswithinusall 1 year ago
I grew up in GP during the 80's/90's. Back when Detroit really was America's most dangerous city. We were close enough to smell the burning houses on Devil's Night. I used to hear automatic weapons being fired at night. With that said, GP was a very insulated world from all of this. Most of the kids I grew up with were polo shirt wearing douchebags who had no inkling of the violent world that existed beyond the alter road border. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
evillurkswithinusall 1 year ago
@arobbie1997- my house is in this vid. i live in grosse pointe park. in the video past alter is Detroit and driving down jefferson is no big deal i do it almost everyday its just when you go a few blocks in on streets like Chalmers if they dont know u,ur gonna get fucked with and most likely robbed ive driven around down there its a shady ass place.dont act like detroit is all safe and shit. its not dont go fucking around down there.
ovifan22 1 year ago
is this a joke? cars dont have number plates,
BLOODYCLQ 1 year ago
I'm from a nicer suburb in Oakland county and i'm surprised how Grosse point has not gone down the tubes along with Detroit. Im surprised how so much affluence can exist in such proximity to such a depressed area. Oh well, i guess that's the same with Pontiac and Bloomfield hills as well. Can't wait to move the hell out of this state.
golecmax 1 year ago
@golecmax GP has gone down the tubes. All of the metro Detroit suburbs have because they have, believe it or not, a symbiotic relationship with the city. I left Michigan a long time ago and never looked back.
evillurkswithinusall 1 year ago
@evillurkswithinusall you are looking back right now!
gkfunding 5 months ago
@golecmax grossepointe shows you the design, it shows you the contrast only in America how can you be surprised.
ashonpar3 11 months ago
What's the song/artist? Nice music. Amazing video too.
MoosicandCritters 1 year ago
ths song is by the gorillaz off the g sides album.
holmanadvantage 1 year ago
@holmanadvantage I couldn't find it on there. :(
MoosicandCritters 1 year ago
Kind of like watching the ending credits to "All in the Family"
TimothySEnglish 1 year ago
Black people isn't why Detroit went down, Detroit's biggest source of labor was the automotive industry, and when the japanese cars etc. came with much more affordable cars, people started buying those instead, its as simple as that. Companies had to fire people until they went bankrupt, which made most of the citizens jobless. This has nothing to do with races, thats just a lame bullshit excuse.. I'm not black myself, but i don't understand why some ignorant racists blame them. Lame excuse guys
TheNotoriousBG 1 year ago
I live in St Clair shores and it is really nice and quiet where i live.
evanlittleton 1 year ago
turn the camera AROUND and do the view from the FRONT.
A2KID420 1 year ago
This is the most vivid thing about detroit, I've been down that exact street several times. The D is even stranger now with all those cleared blocks of grass, areas that look like rural MIssissippi right in the middle of town.... definitely unique. The GP side doesnt have any visible security. If this were in NYC there would be a ton of armed security with checkpoints, dogs and M14s
newyorkcat 1 year ago
@holmanadvantage No, it completely means that one place is more dangerous than the other. You're not posting this to be racist, you're posting it because political correctness has clouded your ability to think rationally. To say that Detroit has just as much crime as grosse pointe is idiotic. You're a fucking idiot
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
@TheGhostOfHumanLogic and you have no logic, but you pretend to on youtube. I like how you ended your "intellegent" little.......COMMENT with.....you're a fucking idiot.....I think we know who the real idiot is.
A2KID420 1 year ago
@A2KID420 Yes, I'm the idiot for suggesting that Detroit is more dangerous than Grosse Pointe lol. I think any and every statistic would agree with me more than you, you fucking idiot. Through 2001-2008 there was 1 murder in Grosse Pointe, in 2009 there were 379 homicides in Detroit, idiot. I would love to use a successful black city as an example for crime statistics but unfortunately there are none.
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
@TheGhostOfHumanLogic whatever I GET IT. I GET IT BROTHRRRR. Detroit is more dangerous than gross point. What I was trying to say is that you are trying to spread your beliefs by being a vulgar little fuck and calling people idiots on you tube, fuck off gangsta bitch.
A2KID420 1 year ago
@A2KID420 I know you love to blame slavery for all of your problems since you haven't been a victim of slavery in any way, shape or form, and that you're living better than 90% of your fellow africans who weren't brought to the U.S. so be grateful for the sacrifices and hardships your relatives had to endure instead of using it as an excuse to be an asshole. Not to mention we didn't just steal black people, most of them were sold to us by other black tribal leaders.
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
@TheGhostOfHumanLogic what the fuck ever we still went up into africa and threatened to kill them, they sold us somebody else so we took them. eventually we turned on most of them, your a little faggot racist cock you douche drunk ass bitch ass mother fuck you
A2KID420 1 year ago
@A2KID420 I'm calling people idiots because they're saying idiotic things, it's not trying to be gangsta asshole it's me calling an idiot an idiot. Lol and your last statement doesn't make any sense at all. Try to speak english and form a coherent sentence sport
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
@A2KID420 So enough with playing the victim role, I never owned slaves, my relatives weren't in the country during the time of slavery, you were never a slave, just stop. The reason why the black community hasn't progressed collectively to any level of success is because instead of taking responsibility for shitty behavior you blame whitey and then demand that he gives you a handout. Look at any community the blacks are given and allowed to run, you don't build it up, you don't treat it well.
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
@A2KID420 Not to mention, there's 2nd generation immigrants who speak better english than most black people, and instead of admitting that most of the black community doesn't speak proper english you put a stupid ass name on misspeaking like ebonics and demand we accept it. The reason the black community hasn't achieved any level of success as a group in this country is because you refuse to assimilate to this country, and would rather blame whitey than take any responsibility for anything.
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
@A2KID420 Hah, the A2 clearly signifies that you are from AnnArbor and 420 likely that you are a stoner (classic annarborite). After spending 18 years in Grosse Pointe and the last 4 in Ann Arbor I have a clear perspective on both towns. I am still currently living in Ann Arbor but hope to move soon. It epitomizes the most fake and idealistic town that would crumble into nothingness should the University of Michigan not exist.
GP1940 8 months ago
@A2KID420 Ann Arbor's lifeline is tied to wealth from other towns and wealthy East Coast children that attend the school. Aside from that it has very little self-sufficiency unless you travel far from campus. Thus since it lies in a college built town it is the most unrealistic and idealistic area possible. Hence bringing forth its nickname: The People's Republic of Ann Arbor. 95% of graduates I know look back and laugh at how ignorant and naive they were while living there.
GP1940 8 months ago
you spelled grosse pointe wrong...
panicqueen373737 1 year ago 3
@panicqueen373737 I know... your not the first to say that. I suck.
holmanadvantage 1 year ago 2
I remember goin to Belle Isle and One side is like all blacks and the others is all whites.
MegaLp2000 1 year ago
damn son this shit got grimey as fuck ya dig, shit's not even hard just gotta know where to go and where not to go.
rojikaru22 1 year ago
@rojikaru22 and if you dont live there how the hell are you supposed to know that. Thats why its a hardened city man
A2KID420 1 year ago
Love the Kruder & Dorphmeister soundtrack
Nizzler1 1 year ago
@taurenspwn It doesn't necessarily have to do with race. Crime is prevalent in poor areas and blacks are more likely to be poor, because of a century of de facto and de jure discrimination. If you grow up poor, you are likely to be poor your whole life. White people left Detroit in the 50's and 60's because of court ordered desegregation of schools and busing and be
flyguy380 1 year ago
This video speaks for it's self. I live in GP and am holding out for as long as I can...
jgodard 1 year ago
actually the stretch of Jefferson from Alter down towards Downtown isnt really as bad as some areas. And going to concernts at the filmore is a lot differnt than actually living and working in the city, as much as I love it, and I do love Detroit, there are some areas you just stay the fuck out of, but this isnt one. This isn't 7&Chalmers or E.Warren&Chene, this is A GOOD neighborhood in Detroit. This is Indian Village and the E.English Village.
katelovesyou666 1 year ago
I have lived in Grosse Pointe for 8 or 9 years and I love it! but Detroit really has to fix it self up!
emigirl445 1 year ago
I sang in downtown Detroit for years and years. Nevder had a problem.
lyricalaska 1 year ago
Get the small bridge between Detroit and Windmill Pointe. Biggest houses in the pointes to Detroit ghetto in 2 seconds
Maddawg313 1 year ago
@holmanadvantage thank you for the post, I understand and see the visual contrast btw the cities, I have lived in both- and it seems senseless for two cities to be so close and look like night and day in some areas.
tlife35 1 year ago
I am currently living an Grosse Point but I know that huge contrast. I am a native Detroiter and man...that is one of the reasons why i moved.
cutiepie1995lol 2 years ago
I live @ 1:00. That border will never change. People who live in this neighborhood pride it like their own child. That's why I moved here. One day I hope the role is reversed where the good seeps into the bad. I see that as possible future.
444Wotan 2 years ago
I've been away a long time, but my parents once owned a building (now gone) at about 1:01. Your townhouse complex (?) was not there when I was a kid.
BTW, that border and the Alter Road area has changed tremendously since the early '70's.
zooah 2 years ago
No, I live down that street. In one them Hundred year old flats.
444Wotan 2 years ago
lol the pole is the divder
kassem5074 2 years ago
Then when ALL the productive people move there and it passes every other nation in the world MAYBE, just maybe, America will get it's head out of it's ass and throw these socialist "ideals" into the fucking trash. You whine about entrepreneurs "exploiting" people but where would they be without them? Jobless and running around like it's the goddamn stone age again. In my opinion every man woman and child should read ATLAS SHRUGGED by Ayn Rand
GP1940 2 years ago
gp1940 ayn rand is wrong. that libertarian nonsense has never worked anywhere. haiti and somalia are perfect examples ofunregulated everything with no government involvolvment.free markets dont cure anything . they eat everything alive
eriet1 2 years ago
@eriet1 Your examples of the "Free Market" are incorrect. In capitalism the government has three main functions: Maintain an army to preserve order/protect, Prevent fraud, and to establish a common currency (gold backed works best usually). Somalian and Hatian governments do none of these. What they have is anarchy and warlords. For you to say that they are "Free" is an absolutely ridiculous staement.
GP1940 1 year ago
@GP1940 It's not entrepreneurs who exploit people, it's big businessmen who you probably believe should have to follow absolutely no rules. They should be able to do whatever they need to do to make as much money as they possibly can for themselves, who cares if it means hurting others, right?
flyguy380 1 year ago
It honestly makes me cringe what people have began to believe in the past 2 decades. People have a "right" to healthcare??? A private sevice provided? By what standard are you basing this "right?" You have conjured it up out of nothing without facts or any constitutional backing. You feel it would be "nice" for the harder working to pay for it for everyone so you're willing to screw over the minority party. I WISH there was one nation that was purely capitalist.
GP1940 2 years ago
Additionally I also will hold my ground. Not a chance of me moving out of GP & giving it up to Detroiters. Most of my friends feel the same way. Whoever posted the comment about the government taking care of people and them treating their homes shitty as a result hit the issue right on the mark. Socialism breeds apathy. "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
GP1940 2 years ago
good footage, and grosse pointe is gonna be right there with detroit in a decade or two if nothing is done
zeppfanimal 2 years ago
that's just amazing. Such a stark contrast between the afluent "suburb" and the city. I didn't know the border was that visible. have to check that out when I visit next March.
truedanielg 2 years ago
Man I've been telling people for years that there is literally a line seperating Grosse Point from "The D"
Nice tune in the background BTY
reindeerdippin2 2 years ago
The city is spelled: Grosse Pointe. You were in Grosse Pointe Park to be exact.
alexanderzachary 2 years ago 3
Jefferson doesn't run to saint clair shores. If you are coming from detroit, Jefferson Ave. turns innto Lakeshore Drive in the middle of Grosse Pointe City at the street, Cadiuex.
arobbie1997 2 years ago
No it doesn't it turns into Lakeshore at Fisher.
CHRISnBRENNANarecool 2 years ago
hahaha.
this is great.
GuessGirl595 2 years ago
FrankeeFraud, it's Nazis like you who committed the worst crimes in history...Detroit looks great compared to almost every city in Europe in 1945...White supremacists, just like you, killed tens of millions of people... it's a shame your parents weren't among them.
wowzer105 2 years ago
Your argument makes no sense whatsoever. Please use logic when you argue. Additionally Hitler was not a "white supremacist" he was a derranged lunatic German supremacist looking for a scapegoat t blame their economic problems on. Jewish people are white in case you forgot...
GP1940 2 years ago
yeah the city sucks
rudoman22 2 years ago
Great video! That's an almost unbelievable transition. What's the name of song?
auscanman 2 years ago
It is really sad that the streets aren't safe down there
firedragon365 2 years ago
Hahaha. Alter. After that it all changes.
JhnoDuliJoi 2 years ago
0:26 right across the streat from there is my dads sunoco station
digybigy 2 years ago
This is like when going from Detroit to Highland Park. Easily spotted atmosphere change.
kindakooldude 2 years ago
kindakooldude, you have a point. When you cross into highland park, you go from abandoned houses to abandoned crackhouses.
EverydayLife567 2 years ago
That's all I'm sayin'
kindakooldude 2 years ago
EverydayLlife, I did leave out that not all borderlines between Highland Park are ghetto. At leats, not by MY standards.
kindakooldude 2 years ago
im 12 years old and i live in grosse pointe. One night, i remember going down alter road seeing nothing but gangs, crackhouses and destroyed buildings. One night i recall driving along alter only to see a man from grosse pointe getting beat by the gang known as the crips. amy dad always says that when he grew up in GPP, Detroit was just as safe as Grosse Pointe
arobbie1997 2 years ago
as a 12 year kid grow up and try to change what you see.and there is no gangs on LAter rd I live on Alter rd.
ashonpar3 2 years ago
your vocabulary seams a bit advanced for a 12 year old. there are no crips in detroit.
holmanadvantage 2 years ago
Thats because Grosse Pointe probably has the best public schools in Michigan. Did you ever see the movie called Grosse Pointe Blank.
kblopp 2 years ago
@holmanadvantage i beg to differ.. detroit is mostly a folk city. with the exception of the northeastern part between 7 mile and 8 and gratiot to kelly which is know as the red zone ran by the 7 Mile Bloods
juggla56 8 months ago
@arobbie1997 - I wont deny there is crime/violence in Detroit, but that exist in every city. I agree with holmanadvantage- There are NO crips in Detroit, especially in the area you are speaking of.
tlife35 1 year ago
@arobbie1997 I am a 14 year old caucasian growing up in Detroit. It is certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. I love the city, I have never experienced violence or crime, and this video was taken just about 2 miles from my home. Yes, I will admit, there are a lot of downfalls, but there are so many things to make up for that, Detroit shines in many ways.
alanagrace27 1 year ago
@arobbie1997 I am a 14 year old caucasian growing up in Detroit. It is certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. I love the city, I have never experienced violence or crime, and this video was taken just about 2 miles from my home. Yes, I will admit, there are a lot of downfalls, but there are so many things to make up for that, Detroit shines in many ways.
alanagrace27 1 year ago
@arobbie1997 I am a 14 year old Caucasian female growing up on Detroit's East Side. I love my city and I have, personally, never seen an act of crime or violence in the city. This video was taken about 2 miles from my house and its not as bad as it is made out to be. Yes, I will admit, there are downfalls, but there is so much to make up for that. There are so many people coming into the city to revitalize and improve, it is coming back!
alanagrace27 1 year ago
@arobbie1997! Well if you seen a man from grosse pointe getting beat down in Detroit, he was buying some dope! Its more dope heads in GP than you know about! Grosse pointe is a white dreamland that insulates you from the rest of the world , Its a false life in a city! And don't say gangs say drug dealers lol O yea there not Crips!
remdniro 9 months ago
is it just me or are there a lot of liquor stores in detroit?............
mstep3 2 years ago
Lots of "Licka Stows" and "Gun Stows" in Detroit.
kblopp 2 years ago
@kblopp -don't imitate - if you can not do so correctly. Ignoramus comments don't suit intellect.
tlife35 1 year ago
@tlife35 Sorry, I didnt mean to offend any Pointers.
kblopp 1 year ago
@kblopp Thank you
tlife35 1 year ago
a friend who grew up there in 70s, his parents owned a family car on the corner of Chalmers and Jefferson, you can see Jefferson crossing Chalmers at one point.
boomboominspace 2 years ago
business in texas. =D where its hot and sunny..
redlikeblack 2 years ago
this is on jefferson east side nigga
samisondrugsnow 3 years ago
Very similar to the stark contrast between Houston's midtown and it's neighboring 3rd Ward. Great footage. Detroit may have fallen victim to the de-industrialization of our country, but underneath the blight lies the grandeur of it's former glory. A glorious past that should never be forgotten. Despite it's decrepit state, to me the Detroit is still a one of the greatest cities ever erected in American soil, and one very deserving of a rapid rehabilitation and preservation.
mengele800 3 years ago 9
@mengele800 Detroit fell victim to white people leaving. They're not coming back, the city will never be revitalized, and it will always be shit. The moment white people try to get involved in an aspect of rebuilding detroit the blacks in the city freak out and start bitching about how they want to run their own city, because they've done a spectacular job thus far. Give it about 20 more years and detroit's gonna look like Haiti, these animals dont know how to take care of their shit
TheGhostOfHumanLogic 1 year ago
6 months ago i lived in Grosse Pointe Shores. even got a pic of clint eastwood when he was shooting next door. i got sick of the colorfulplace and moved. haha
redlikeblack 3 years ago
what street was that on smart ass??? i live on the street he filmed on so lets hear it you fucking liar
motecarlo2x 2 years ago
Jefferson ave drive from saint Clair shores to Detroit. How can raw video footage lie. If you live in metro Detroit how can you deny the contrast between gross point and Detroit also learn some grammar dip shit.
holmanadvantage 2 years ago
@holmanadvantage - I think motecarlo2x meant that comment toward arobbie1997, not yours :-) I could be wrong though, I have been b4. peace
tlife35 1 year ago
what the name of that song and who made it?
chitownbound 3 years ago
Great!
chipbj65 3 years ago
thanks for the ride
cyclonesupercell 3 years ago
When Detroit was a White city, it was clean, civilized, safe, with a good school system, etc. Negroes came to power, and now look at it. Coincidence? I think not.
FrankeeFraud 3 years ago 2
its true
mikemihalis9 2 years ago
thanks brother for the comment
ashonpar3 3 years ago
OMG !!! at 1:21 i used to go there for snacks :(
airsoftlamblover 3 years ago
I drive that road every tuesday of the summer, o my god, it's SAD how bad of a shape detroit is in. Even bayview yacht club
OPTI10109 3 years ago
yep
airsoftlamblover 3 years ago
as for Grosse point its sad that its starting to become unsafe if the car companies don't get bailed out there goes Grosse point the area has already been "slipping" their real estate market is getting cheaper ex.. 12k sqft mansion WOW!!! only 900k why so cheap well you guessed it.. its because their are nicer areas to be in than in a dying out city its sad but its the truth
taurenspwn 3 years ago
rate I don't think so.. I am not a racist so don't accuse me of it the government is not supposed to take care of people unless they really need it(mental problems etc..) there is no such thing as " I don't have to work the government will take care of me" that kind of mentality is what contributes to these cities dying out ex.. the government gives you housing since its not yours you feel like you don't have to take care of it and over time it deteriorates..
taurenspwn 3 years ago 3
You hate to be racist.. but long ago Detroit used to be a thriving wealthy city then came the blacks all the people who wanted to make something out of their life left or moved to the suburbs and the blacks took over the city deteriorating it into what it is now its happened to a lot of southern cities too they die out because of this no one wants to live in an area with high crime thats why the areas economies die out would a company move to a city that has horrible schools and a high crime ra
taurenspwn 3 years ago 3
WHITe flight black did not take over,whites took the jobs,and the tax dollars that run the city.ALways whites tell little white lies.
ashonpar3 3 years ago
@taurenspwn It doesn't necessarily have to do with race. Crime is prevalent in poor areas and blacks are more likely to be poor, because of a century of de facto and de jure discrimination. If you grow up poor, you are likely to be poor your whole life. White people left Detroit in the 50's and 60's because of court ordered desegregation of schools and busing and because of race riots. So it is just as much the fault of white people as it is black.
flyguy380 1 year ago
I just drove this yesterday and it is as dramatic as portrayed in the video. But the cops in Detroit where out in force....giving everybody tickets for not wearing seat belts..go figure.
Although I've not seen this on the web, there are supposedly photographs of the National Guard with tanks and APC's at Altier Avenue, protecting Grosse Point during the riots of 1967.
choirboyfromhell1 3 years ago
true al the way done to st Jean my uncle told me
ashonpar3 3 years ago
Hard to believe, but that section of Detroit was once a safe, clean part of the Motor City, where people (White, of course, predominantly Italian, as I recall). People worked, went to school, minded their own business, took care of their children, houses, and neighborhood in general. Could go months without seeing a cop car with sirens. Now look at what the Negroes did to it- let's hear it for equality!
FrankeeFraud 3 years ago 5
at about 1:14 i used to walk down that street, now even the dollar store on that block is burnt up from a fire
airsoftlamblover 3 years ago
Its like that now I hardly see a cop ,hardly hear gun shots now
ashonpar3 3 years ago
@FrankeeFraud maybe if white people didnt ENSLAVE black people there wouldnt be as much racial tention. and also consider them inferior and PASS LAWS giving them less of a right to freedom
A2KID420 1 year ago
@A2KID420
Slavery? So THAT"S why Negroes ruin every city, school system, or neighborhood they touch? Even the Negroes themselves realize that's a crock of shit. And so do you, you pathetic little Jew boy!
FrankeeFraud 1 year ago
That's it, asshead, tax the shit out of productive Whites, and give it to all the lazy, sex-crazed, lawless Negroes of Detroit, so they can breed even more illegitimate mokeys! Makes sense to me, too! Riiiight.
FrankeeFraud 3 years ago 4
HEY! I live in Grosse Pointe and it is a very nice and safe place. We are lucky. There is no need to say that we are stuck up because we aren not. And don't trash Detroit either. Gosh, some people!
SAYWAHTTTT 3 years ago
yeh, thanks for that. Its sucks ass that gp is geting fucked up, i am a detroit refugee
airsoftlamblover 3 years ago
LOL u drove passed my house..
unothedog2002 3 years ago
Detroit needs to look more like Grosse Pt. and Grosse Pt. it needs to become hipper like Detroit. Both cities could benefit from one another.
jazzman794 3 years ago
majority of whites, are part of this have not crowd too, and dont realize it.Look at warren michigan,ferndale.eastpointe,redford
ashonpar3 3 years ago
Detroit used to look almost as good as Grosse Pointe up until about 1960.
kblopp 2 years ago
grosse pointe is nice but too close to the ghetto. if i were to drop millions on a home it would be in oakland county. maybe birmingham or bloomfield hills...
viketaker 3 years ago
They don't even need a "Welcome to Detroit" sign. Just look up when you see a filthy neighborhood, with a bunch a lazy, good-for-nothing apes sitting around doing NOTHING. I see no future for this race whatsoever. None.
FrankeeFraud 3 years ago
agreed.
jboidaman99 3 years ago
From cultural wasteland to urban wasteland in one intersection
Love Bunyipgirl :kiss:
BunyipBlueEyes 3 years ago
I've been meaning to shoot this for years now.
humandogproductions 3 years ago
you spelled grosse pointe wrong.
panicqueen373737 3 years ago
I live a mile in to Detroit.How can you justify such a difference.I go down this road everyday from Detroit to grossepointe
ashonpar 3 years ago
one, you spelled Grosse Pointe wrong, and two, if you're driving down Jefferson, you're gonna see changes from the suburbia to a city, it's different, we don't have tall buildings and they do so do your research next time you ahole
yoyoyozo 3 years ago
so this is your typical I better than you answer
ashonpar3 3 years ago
BrianTheLion, That was a very ignorant comment. There are plenty of nice places in Detroit. You just don't want to open your mind, or eyes and see them.
camdahottie1 3 years ago
wow...crazy...
momo1694 3 years ago
It's gotten worse! i say we put the fence back up quick before property values go down more than they already have due to the sh**ty economy. My house is worth four million and it better stay that way!!!
sarahfsince1656 3 years ago
if that was sarcasm, you're officially my hero.
if that was serious...i'm done here...
AlmostAnAuthor 3 years ago
and I lived in grosse pointe for ten years. but you're still my hero, cause even though my family wasn't like that, I knew tons of people who were...
AlmostAnAuthor 3 years ago
help to fix it cracker
ashonpar3 3 years ago
see now im glad i moved. its because of people like this. daymm.
redlikeblack 2 years ago
Do you think this is unusual or something?
You're driving from a suburb into an urban/industrial center (or at least what used to be industrial center).
jpsartrean 3 years ago
Actually, it is highly unusual. Detroit is by far the worst and most ruined city in this nation. I don't know where you've been, but I have never seen anything worse than Detroit. And I have seen the bad days of New York first hand.
BrianTheLion02113 3 years ago
17.7% unemployment in Detroit.
Over 1/3 in poverty.
BrianTheLion is totally right.
Detroit is ruined.
solidgoldeasyaction 3 years ago