2008 NFA LD Debate Nationals Final Round Part 5

[deathdrain123]

lol "there are more reasons to vote for the affirmative than there are ld debaters"

[meinperpetualmotion]

In the end, he only had a few key arguments, and won with those because they were strong. Neither debater tried to win by spreading the other out of the round (a fancy way of saying avoiding clash). I respect that, and I wish more LDers (especially old fashioned judges and coaches) were friendlier to faster, more technical debate, as long as it retains its persuasion and and academic integrity.

[meinperpetualmotion]

This was a very good round. As a high school LDer, I get really pissed off when people use speed and carded evidence, but ONLY when they use those methods to avoid clash, skimp on analysis, and not link through. All the AFF's arguments were well constructed, and he used his increased speed (not nearly policy speed, I know) to go deeper with his analytics instead of just reading more arguments.

[charcoalc5]

he's a little faster than normal. not bad for nationals i guess

[TaeKwonDo1011]

thats not even 250.

try maybe 130, 150 tops.

nevertheless, this is a nice speed for ld'ers

[j0hnny4eyes]

hahaaaaaaaaaaa hahaha he talks so high ....

[spydermrj]

Guys this is NFA LD its a form of college debate. This is not the LD you guys are used to in HS.

[KabaneTheChristian]

This is not LD. This was last years policy topic, and you are running DAs, referring to links, and talking at Advanced Policy speed.

[iliketrains76]

This is LD POLICY. It is a policy topic with DAs and links. The question being discussed is whether speed is acceptable.

[bonavex]

Also, this is NOT last year's HS policy topic. That was a much broader resolution.

[thelastmim]

how is this fast

[KabaneTheChristian]

If you've never debated policy before, this is extremely fast.

[thelastmim]

I debate policy- i'm pretty sure im like 3x faster than this and alot of people are alot- he's going like 250 wpm

[KabaneTheChristian]

I debate policy too. I didn't say that people don't go faster, they go much faster. What I said was that people who are unfamiliar with policy often perceive this kind of thing as fast.

[CallMeGoat]

Glad to see LD shifting towards policy speed

[CallMeGoat]

On second thought, how is this LD? Counter-plans and DA's and stuff

[Turtlehoop]

College LD is literally single person policy debate with LD Times.

[Lov3s2Spooge]

So is there a collegiate equivalent of the high school LD "values" debate and if so, what?

[iliketrains76]

The material has been opened up a lot in the past year alone. Counterplans are run, DA's are expected, and kritiks are run every tourney. Boyer's Debate Cooperative debate camp is largely responsible for better evidence and blocks in the league. It churned out cases, DAs, CPs and a kritik that most schools based their files around.

Policy-makers have effectively replaced the stock issues makeup of judges.

[LordofSorrow]

His 2AR sounds much better than his 1AC. I think he is clearer and using more hand motions than he was to begin with. Still, he is having a hard time looking away from his paper.

[xxxLAWRENCExxx]

That guy's eating his fingers!

Someone save him!!

hahahha

when you were talking really fast i thought you were kidding. but yeah, GOOD JOB!!!!!!!

i've never done LD before

but it looks like fun!

[LafayetteForensics]

FYI, the Affirmative (Senior, Spencer Harris from Drury University) wins on a 5-0 decision over the Negative (Sophomore, Jessica Furgerson from Western Kentucky University).

Congratulations to both debaters on reaching the finals!

[iliketrains76]

That's important info I should have posted. Thanks for the details, Boyer. Feel like posting a video RFD?