The Rorty Discussion with Donald Davidson - Part 4 of 6

[queenkyoko]

i think rorty's philosophy is more easily expressed in a situation like this

while davidson's may require more"contexts"

just a thinking

[Israe5l]

Still, Davidson's silence was interesting. Or maybe it was just contempt of Rorty. I wonder what Davidson had under his sleeves.

[mightyafrowhitey]

this is kind of interesting, even though I really don't have much for either the logical positivists of the analytic philosophers. still kinda interesting nonetheless

[overmanhasreturned]

He is not a Marxist as far as I can tell. Materialism, historical is Marxism. It is a basic grounding in reality. Figure it out>

[manwaring]

@Questfortruth86

Read the 'Communist Manifesto'.

Read 'Contingency, Irony And Solidarity' by Rorty.

Compare.

Normally I don't bother to defend philosophers on youtube, but the sheer amount of stupid comments people make about Rorty is really mind blowing. It's part of our current positivistic culture, that anytime something smells like relativism people reach for danger words at random. In your case, extremely random, given Rorty is about as Marxist as George W. Bush.

[mightyafrowhitey]

@manwaring it's mind-blowing to me why anyone would even accuse rorty of being a marxist. marx used materialism as a stepping stone for his political philosophy. is this really that difficult for people to understand?!?!? I'm not that familiar with rorty, I have to admit, but from what I get out of this video it doesn't even seem like his very interested in political philosophy.

[hyperseauton]

"Let Frege re-Kantianize us"

hits the nail on its head. Davidson is somewhat skeptical that what is essential still the Kantian plan of the philosophical project does still steer analytical philosophy but I think this is a wounding blow to Davidson at this point.

[hyperseauton]

"Kibitzing over alternative discourses within the culture...cleaning up some loose edges"

lulz. I think that is exactly what philosophy is.

Davidson's social commentary that philosophy is bastardized nowadays and his eulogy to Russell goes somewhat to show that he would like to go back to a time where philosophy was done by white upper-class males, and I am not trolling, I really think he is nostalgic about those "good ol' days".

[manwaring]

I don't know, I'm sure the ad-hominem is entirely justified. It must have been really exciting to live in a time when people thought Frege's new language was actually going to solve philosophical problems. I don't think there's some sexist longing behind Davidson's ideas.

While I obviously don't agree with the ideas presented back then, you've gotta respect the endevour of something like the Tractatus or the Principia.

[hyperseauton]

"you've gotta respect the endevour of something like the Tractatus or the Principia." of course and still do. My second comment must have been trolling when I re-read what I have written.