After hearing the statements they wrote about John's affair I can say this; They think they are at the center of the universe. Elizabeth especially. Who really cares what she thinks or what he thinks for that matter. Just die already. We really don't care. He was an ambulance chaser all along and you dumb faggots failed to see that.
Hey, i have a health care plan.. Get your hands out of my pocket, and put your hands back in your own pocket. What ever happened to people looking and after and being responsible for themselves?
This was dumb of her to say this. Her husband will be backing Obama because that is best 4 his career. Healthcare is not even his biggest issue. Edwards was all about getting rid of lobbyist.
I guess Elizabeth is part of the vast Clinton-conspiracy to enact Universal Health Care. You wouldn't think Obama supporters would be so afraid of Democratic values. I guess Obama can't have integrity on this issue because he's black-I just think he's a liar and a conservative though.
Democrat Barack Obama conceded his comments made about bitter working class voters who "cling to guns or religion" were ill chosen,
He tried to stem a burst of complaints that he is condescending.
Presidential rival Hillary Clinton hit him with one of her lengthiest and most pointed criticisms to date.
"Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch," she said, campaigning about an hour away in Indianapolis. "They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."
Hillary's plan mandates that we pay our money to a private, for-profit enterprise or face a penalty.
Socialized is completely different. It's not for profit, which is a huge savings right off the bat and the rest you can look up but I agree with the high percentage of Americans that we need a "new direction"...and that includes health care, ricksles.
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Hillary does have the best plan.Hers is very close to France,but seems better than that even.France is ranked #1 on quality healthcare.We are #27,although we are already #1 on cost.That doesn't add up.If people really want CHANGE then do the morally right thing and give ALL Americans healthcare!!
I get tired of hearing anyone talking about how many people will be "covered" under whoever's "universal health care" plan. None of these plans cover anyone - you cover yourself.
Specifically about Hillary's plan: I vehemently oppose the government forcing everyone to buy anything. At that point, what is the difference between just giving everyone health coverage using tax dollars? I guess just that everyone will cry socialism, even though most can't even back up their position against it.
Obama supporters think these sexist remarks are going to change minds, but we all know voters will see their hypocrisy. No Democrat is going to hear Obama's lies about Universal Health Care.
Why do you think republicans want to run against Hillary so much that huge numbers of people in Texas and Ohio switched parties to vote for her? Google Hillary Clinton scandal and see how much mud they will have to sling at her. She would have been indited for felonies twice if star witnesses against had not accidentally died.
We should be pushing both candidates for GENUINE universal care which main component is not for profit. Profit is the cost that has to be removed for it to be universal care as it is with other countries.
We should be pushing both candidates for GENUINE universal care which main component is not for profit. Profit is the cost that has to be removed for it to be universal care as it is with other countries.
The thing is under HRCs plan given her delayed capaign health insurance payments she'd be fined under her own rules. Plus subsidies would be withdrawn if GOP ever returned to power and America left with mandated over price healthcare. Optional is safer.
Health insurance mandates if universally applied will never work. There are people who simply cannot afford to pay into any kind of healthcare plan especially with the reality of a looming recession. The immediate effect of mandates will be more money for the insurance companies and little else. We cannot get universal healthcare by applying the same standards to everybody.
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Instead of attacking Hillary [and Hillary's weight, as one person does below -shameful-], I would look at who Elizabeth is, as a person, and why she would back the mandate over Obama's plan. She is a very intelligent, informed person who is fighting cancer. It seem highly unlikely that she would be pro-unfair corporate profits and anti-American choice just for the sake of it. She must believe the benefits of Hillary's plan far outweigh the negatives, or she wouldn't be speaking out in favor.
"The Colombia free trade deal, in my view, is not appropriate because of the history of suppression and targeted killings of labor organizers in Colombia.
Every modern industrialised nation in the world has a health care plan like the one Hillary, John, and Elizabeth support. Why isn't Barack Obama getting on board? I thought he was supposed to be the idealist-and he's not even standing for Universal Health Care? Its gonna be a disappointing general if I have to choose between a war monger and a snake.
Clintons plan is the same plan that they ran with back in 1992 and tried too push thru congress back in 1993. Even with Dem. control of Both the House and Senate,it wouldn't Fly.
It's basically a matter of finance that was going to turn in to a Health Care Ration System with a long, long waiting list's. Public health care in Canada depends on private health care in the US.
Mrs Edwards needs to look up SCSUScholars published infomation on this issue and avoid a Clinton Bias Press Agenda !
The Clinton plan back in 92 was largely based on working through HMOs. It is completely different now and much more workable insofar as it can be pushed through Congress but the Dems are likely to win big in the Senate and probably the House too.
I would like to hear also what she said about McCain's status quo. According to what I read, she said neither McCain's nor her's cancer treatment would be cover as a pre-existing condition. I think Obama's experience, with his mother wondering if she can afford her cancer treatment does make him personally involved in making health care affordable to all Americans.
I'm not sure either Dem has a "good" healthcare plan, but unlike the GOP, they at least actually do have healthcare plans. The GOP are happy with the status quo of 49 million uninsured and even more underinsured, with corporate bureaucrats making life and death medical decisions, more concerned with the bottomline cost and profits than the health of average Americans. America's healthcare is only as good as you can afford.
I agree and does anyone else find this "I endorse the issues not the candidate" talk kind of silly? Elizabeth seems to be forgetting that John is the politician in the family.
Elizabeth Edwards is way off on this. Sad and disappointing. Clinton's plan does little to lower health care costs, and there little has been offered in the way of details on how Clinton would achieve her mandate, altho it is clear that penalties/fines would be the main mechanism employed to encourage full participation. To me, that's just creepy and counterproductive. I wonder if Elizabeth has read Barack's books, bc it is clear that she must not be seeing the bigger picture.
How is it that in the end she says that she wants realistic solutions, yet would back Hillary's plan? I don't think it's ever going to get through, a successful universal health care program is a pipe dream for our budget and government.
If it hadn't been for that sudden flurry of sniper fire that forced her off the driveway, Hillary probably would have gotten an endorsement from Edwards. Darn snipers.
E Edwards keeps repeating that nonsense on all channels. The mandate in conjunction with private insurance companies is a gift to insurance companies which will give them a free ride to raise their premiums. Which makes this talk about universality irrelevant because it means the plan is LESS affordable. The only question then is will she take it from your taxes or from wages directly. See explanation below.
In as few words as possible: HRC's plan will NOT regulate prices for 2 reasons: it involves private insurance companies (HRC's lobbyist buddies) and a mandate (a gift to her lobbyist buddies). The argument that a wider base lowers prices is a fundamental economic FALLACY, that assumes that private businesses will lower their prices if they can lower their costs. WRONG! Private businesses are in it for profit MAXIMIZATION. Their price is strictly determind by WHAT THEY CAN GET!
A private business that can find a customer paying $100 for a product will demand $100 whether their costs are $50, $40 or $0.01. Consumers can vote about the price of the products with their demand, i.e. the choice to buy a product or not. By putting the mandate into the health care plan HRC cuts out this choice for the customers. It's a free ride for the insurance companies and the premiums are negotiated only between govt and insurers, using taxes and wages to pay for it.
Premiums will go up and clients cannot vote for lower prices by refusing to buy the programs. The question of whether or not the plan is affordable MUST be left to the people. If you want a mandate, you have to go the way of government programs such as Medicaid/Medicare who are NOT PROFIT MAXIMIZING. Involve private insurers and the mandate will drive premiums up.
it's too bad that a-holes like yourself would rather shoot off your blowhole than listen and think about the ISSUES in this campaign. The CHILDISHNESS on both sides of the CloBama Circus is astonishingly stupid. Do we have any GROWNUPS left in the Democratic Party? We know we don't in the Republican Party.
To HolyHannah from the Republican party: Please read your own comment, then try to think about something more childish than what you wrote. Anyway, do you understand the issue here, mandatory vs. non-mandatory health care?
After hearing the statements they wrote about John's affair I can say this; They think they are at the center of the universe. Elizabeth especially. Who really cares what she thinks or what he thinks for that matter. Just die already. We really don't care. He was an ambulance chaser all along and you dumb faggots failed to see that.
allahwasafag 3 years ago
His scummy low life husband cheated on her and fathered a child out of wedlock.
She needs to get a divorce before she dies.
ROCKU999 3 years ago
Elizabeth ENDORSES HILLARY!!!
Yutuberdude 3 years ago
Single-payer will never happen in the US, get over it.
Subsidized insurance is the ONLY PATH, or should I say the only REALISTIC path.
Subsidized to no more than 1% of your annual income. I.E. - $45,000 = 450.00 a year = $38.00 monthly. That's a gym membership, LOL.
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
USA is ready for Universal Health CARe ...
aviomaster 3 years ago
Hey, i have a health care plan.. Get your hands out of my pocket, and put your hands back in your own pocket. What ever happened to people looking and after and being responsible for themselves?
jonathantkessler 3 years ago
This was dumb of her to say this. Her husband will be backing Obama because that is best 4 his career. Healthcare is not even his biggest issue. Edwards was all about getting rid of lobbyist.
mowhit1 3 years ago
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I guess Elizabeth is part of the vast Clinton-conspiracy to enact Universal Health Care. You wouldn't think Obama supporters would be so afraid of Democratic values. I guess Obama can't have integrity on this issue because he's black-I just think he's a liar and a conservative though.
zeiters20 3 years ago
Democrat Barack Obama conceded his comments made about bitter working class voters who "cling to guns or religion" were ill chosen,
He tried to stem a burst of complaints that he is condescending.
Presidential rival Hillary Clinton hit him with one of her lengthiest and most pointed criticisms to date.
"Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch," she said, campaigning about an hour away in Indianapolis. "They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."
nrthdude1 3 years ago
A mandatory health care system? Since when is coercion embraced in the free and independent states of America?
HillaryCare = Socialized Care
Universal Health Care = Socialized Health Care
There is no difference.
Freedom or coercion?
rickysles 3 years ago
ricksles-"HillaryCare = Socialized Care
Universal Health Care = Socialized Health Care
There is no difference."
Dude, you have no clue.
Hillary's plan mandates that we pay our money to a private, for-profit enterprise or face a penalty.
Socialized is completely different. It's not for profit, which is a huge savings right off the bat and the rest you can look up but I agree with the high percentage of Americans that we need a "new direction"...and that includes health care, ricksles.
thedrax 3 years ago
Oh, so we're forced to pay for healthcare to a private business. That sounds like big government and business getting in bed together.
I think you need to do a little more reading about what it means to live in a free society.
rickysles 3 years ago
"Oh, so we're forced to pay for healthcare to a private business. That sounds like big government and business getting in bed together."
Umm Yea..exactly. I guess I didn't make clear that I'm NOT for Hillary's plan but I am for a single payer, not for profit health care system.
Yea Hillary's "plan" is fascism, plain and simple. I refuse to vote for her.
Single payer is what 95% of the free world currently uses, including France which has, hands down, the best health care system in the world.
thedrax 3 years ago
France has the best health care? 17 week wait-times for MRIs? That doesn't sound like the best at all.
Watch John Stossel's report on health care. It can easily be searched for on YouTube.
rickysles 3 years ago
"Watch John Stossel's report on health care."
I saw it last year. That's your argument against a single payer system?
Stossel wrote a book about a free market health care system so I'd say his opinion is slightly biased on the matter.
Instead of listening to all the media dopes, why don't you take a few hours and actually look up the benefits of the single payer system.
Every industrialized nation in the world (except us) uses single payer or some form of it. So they're all wrong?
Arrogant.
thedrax 3 years ago
Please refrain from partaking in ad hominem.
I will not debate you over the internet. It's dumb and a waste of time. I am simply offering another perspective to socialized medicine.
freemarketcure dot com
rickysles 3 years ago
She is dead wrong!
inspibyob 3 years ago
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Hillary does have the best plan.Hers is very close to France,but seems better than that even.France is ranked #1 on quality healthcare.We are #27,although we are already #1 on cost.That doesn't add up.If people really want CHANGE then do the morally right thing and give ALL Americans healthcare!!
riteousbabe 3 years ago
"..Hers is very close to France.."
It ain't like no fuckin France.
She totes it as "Universal" and people go shit nuts w/o even finding out what it is.
The only fact you got right was that France is indeed #1. It has a Single Payer system. Which Hillary's, definitely is not.
Hillary's "plan" will make it law to pay your money to a for-profit company for your health insurance or face a penalty.
Last time I checked, that was called Fascism.
We fought against that in WW2...what's happening?
thedrax 3 years ago
I get tired of hearing anyone talking about how many people will be "covered" under whoever's "universal health care" plan. None of these plans cover anyone - you cover yourself.
Specifically about Hillary's plan: I vehemently oppose the government forcing everyone to buy anything. At that point, what is the difference between just giving everyone health coverage using tax dollars? I guess just that everyone will cry socialism, even though most can't even back up their position against it.
devikkyrn 3 years ago 3
Spoken like a woman with a lot of money.
IntelligentAgent 3 years ago 2
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Obama supporters think these sexist remarks are going to change minds, but we all know voters will see their hypocrisy. No Democrat is going to hear Obama's lies about Universal Health Care.
Devin1498 3 years ago
vote neither. Americans don't need the gov't getting it's grubby hands on another industry/service; and we DON'T need more taxes.
megan4197 3 years ago
I'm no hillary supporter, but anyone who rates this poorly doesn't have respect for the fact that Mrs. Edwards has her own opinion.
inaeurotrance 3 years ago
Go Hillary! Let's Go Pennsylvania!
astro104 3 years ago
Why do you think republicans want to run against Hillary so much that huge numbers of people in Texas and Ohio switched parties to vote for her? Google Hillary Clinton scandal and see how much mud they will have to sling at her. She would have been indited for felonies twice if star witnesses against had not accidentally died.
crazycatfguy 3 years ago
We should be pushing both candidates for GENUINE universal care which main component is not for profit. Profit is the cost that has to be removed for it to be universal care as it is with other countries.
cooolandy 3 years ago
We should be pushing both candidates for GENUINE universal care which main component is not for profit. Profit is the cost that has to be removed for it to be universal care as it is with other countries.
cooolandy 3 years ago
The thing is under HRCs plan given her delayed capaign health insurance payments she'd be fined under her own rules. Plus subsidies would be withdrawn if GOP ever returned to power and America left with mandated over price healthcare. Optional is safer.
cooolandy 3 years ago
Health insurance mandates if universally applied will never work. There are people who simply cannot afford to pay into any kind of healthcare plan especially with the reality of a looming recession. The immediate effect of mandates will be more money for the insurance companies and little else. We cannot get universal healthcare by applying the same standards to everybody.
Dayoman10 3 years ago
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Instead of attacking Hillary [and Hillary's weight, as one person does below -shameful-], I would look at who Elizabeth is, as a person, and why she would back the mandate over Obama's plan. She is a very intelligent, informed person who is fighting cancer. It seem highly unlikely that she would be pro-unfair corporate profits and anti-American choice just for the sake of it. She must believe the benefits of Hillary's plan far outweigh the negatives, or she wouldn't be speaking out in favor.
DrDashCam 3 years ago
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"The Colombia free trade deal, in my view, is not appropriate because of the history of suppression and targeted killings of labor organizers in Colombia.
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton
WhiteBlackMan11 3 years ago
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Every modern industrialised nation in the world has a health care plan like the one Hillary, John, and Elizabeth support. Why isn't Barack Obama getting on board? I thought he was supposed to be the idealist-and he's not even standing for Universal Health Care? Its gonna be a disappointing general if I have to choose between a war monger and a snake.
Devin1498 3 years ago
Never trust what a fat person tells you about health care... I'll believe the healthy athletic person any day.
RoyalKrush 3 years ago
Hillary's amazingly bright, experienced, warm, funny and works really, really hard. I want this woman in the Whitehouse.
masakalia 3 years ago
Clintons plan is the same plan that they ran with back in 1992 and tried too push thru congress back in 1993. Even with Dem. control of Both the House and Senate,it wouldn't Fly.
It's basically a matter of finance that was going to turn in to a Health Care Ration System with a long, long waiting list's. Public health care in Canada depends on private health care in the US.
Mrs Edwards needs to look up SCSUScholars published infomation on this issue and avoid a Clinton Bias Press Agenda !
ubuibiok 3 years ago
The Clinton plan back in 92 was largely based on working through HMOs. It is completely different now and much more workable insofar as it can be pushed through Congress but the Dems are likely to win big in the Senate and probably the House too.
ErnestAnastasio 3 years ago
very smart !!
sarajoony 3 years ago
I would like to hear also what she said about McCain's status quo. According to what I read, she said neither McCain's nor her's cancer treatment would be cover as a pre-existing condition. I think Obama's experience, with his mother wondering if she can afford her cancer treatment does make him personally involved in making health care affordable to all Americans.
Thornbackray 3 years ago
I'm not sure either Dem has a "good" healthcare plan, but unlike the GOP, they at least actually do have healthcare plans. The GOP are happy with the status quo of 49 million uninsured and even more underinsured, with corporate bureaucrats making life and death medical decisions, more concerned with the bottomline cost and profits than the health of average Americans. America's healthcare is only as good as you can afford.
dafttool 3 years ago
How much older is Elizabeth than John?
bicyclethief 3 years ago
I think Elizabeth is the only reason why John has not endorsed Obama yet
russelljgarner 3 years ago 7
I agree and does anyone else find this "I endorse the issues not the candidate" talk kind of silly? Elizabeth seems to be forgetting that John is the politician in the family.
vertigate 3 years ago 3
That's funny, because Elizabeth was more successful than John at winning over voters.
Devin1498 3 years ago
Thanks for the comments. Keep watching.
Veracifier 3 years ago
Elizabeth Edwards is way off on this. Sad and disappointing. Clinton's plan does little to lower health care costs, and there little has been offered in the way of details on how Clinton would achieve her mandate, altho it is clear that penalties/fines would be the main mechanism employed to encourage full participation. To me, that's just creepy and counterproductive. I wonder if Elizabeth has read Barack's books, bc it is clear that she must not be seeing the bigger picture.
Peace! Obama!
baronmorris 3 years ago
She is a wise lady! very smart!
sarajoony 3 years ago
very smart
elhuero21 3 years ago
How is it that in the end she says that she wants realistic solutions, yet would back Hillary's plan? I don't think it's ever going to get through, a successful universal health care program is a pipe dream for our budget and government.
Napstrpsx 3 years ago
It's interesting, there used to be rumors that she wanted to back Obama.
typhonsentra 3 years ago 2
A non-candidate surrogate? That is a first.
snarkwaupaca 3 years ago
If it hadn't been for that sudden flurry of sniper fire that forced her off the driveway, Hillary probably would have gotten an endorsement from Edwards. Darn snipers.
TormentedByDemons 3 years ago
haha
gholis 3 years ago
E Edwards keeps repeating that nonsense on all channels. The mandate in conjunction with private insurance companies is a gift to insurance companies which will give them a free ride to raise their premiums. Which makes this talk about universality irrelevant because it means the plan is LESS affordable. The only question then is will she take it from your taxes or from wages directly. See explanation below.
vertigate 3 years ago 2
In as few words as possible: HRC's plan will NOT regulate prices for 2 reasons: it involves private insurance companies (HRC's lobbyist buddies) and a mandate (a gift to her lobbyist buddies). The argument that a wider base lowers prices is a fundamental economic FALLACY, that assumes that private businesses will lower their prices if they can lower their costs. WRONG! Private businesses are in it for profit MAXIMIZATION. Their price is strictly determind by WHAT THEY CAN GET!
vertigate 3 years ago 2
A private business that can find a customer paying $100 for a product will demand $100 whether their costs are $50, $40 or $0.01. Consumers can vote about the price of the products with their demand, i.e. the choice to buy a product or not. By putting the mandate into the health care plan HRC cuts out this choice for the customers. It's a free ride for the insurance companies and the premiums are negotiated only between govt and insurers, using taxes and wages to pay for it.
vertigate 3 years ago 2
Premiums will go up and clients cannot vote for lower prices by refusing to buy the programs. The question of whether or not the plan is affordable MUST be left to the people. If you want a mandate, you have to go the way of government programs such as Medicaid/Medicare who are NOT PROFIT MAXIMIZING. Involve private insurers and the mandate will drive premiums up.
--> Mandate + private insurance companies = skyrocketing premiums.
Tax payers and clients foot the bill.
vertigate 3 years ago 2
Verigate,
Thank you, you nailed this issue right on the head.
Sadly people don't look "into" things like health plan in question and only take things on face value.
Thanks again for making this so very clear to anyone willing to "see"
lakshmi313 3 years ago
it's too bad that a-holes like yourself would rather shoot off your blowhole than listen and think about the ISSUES in this campaign. The CHILDISHNESS on both sides of the CloBama Circus is astonishingly stupid. Do we have any GROWNUPS left in the Democratic Party? We know we don't in the Republican Party.
HolyHannah 3 years ago
CloBama? Wtf?
Napstrpsx 3 years ago
Ummmmm HolyHannah.... Ron Paul.
travshorts 3 years ago
To HolyHannah from the Republican party: Please read your own comment, then try to think about something more childish than what you wrote. Anyway, do you understand the issue here, mandatory vs. non-mandatory health care?
Thornbackray 3 years ago