1.)Ο Σημίτης ο Μαλακάς είπε στην Γερμανία( 23.01.2012), ότι άμα γίνει κανένας Πόλεμος με την Τουρκία και Ελλάδα, ότι η Τουρκία θα χρειαζόταν δύο με τρεις ώρες να κατακτήσει την Ελλάδα. Αυτό που είπε είναι Αλήθεια, η το λέει αυτό για να μας τρομαξη. Κι άμα είναι έτσι, τότε γιατί δίνει η Ελλάδα τόσα δισεκατομμύρια EURO για όπλα, για να κράτηση μόνο δύο με τρεις ώρες. Δεν τους καταλαβαίνω τους πολιτικούς, δίνουν δικαίωμα στους Τούρκους να μας Κοροιδεύουν και να μας καβουν ότι θέλουν.
ok ucraine now wants us to take the 1 zubr we had ordered and hadnt recevied casue of some problems.lol id like to use that hovercraft for my vacations : P
That last comment seems very U.K. eng-land. It sounds like what heroin Granger would write. or a "house of common". It's not in caps, because they're common. But yeah---CHECK THAT!!!!!
Δυστηχως κανενα δεν κυκλοφορει πια αν θυμαμε καλα...γιατι σκοπημα τα παρατησανε και δεν εχουμε και ανταλλακτικα...μπραβο στους πολιτικους...προκοψανε παλι.
@6thsun25 they r more than usefull to greek landscape cause of our many islands(we have 3225 islands).we had bought 4 and now we r using 3 of them casue we used the other one for spares.we r making agreements to buy 12 hovercrafts more(not specific country yet) and 2 more for strategic command of strategic supplies like nukes,warhead codes,satelite comunications and other type which i dont know very well.first well get the 3 new fremms with scalp naval and then well order those hovecrafts.
gay greeks even thier gods were gay .. we fucked them many times in history ... they cry now for their old orthodox trash churhes ;) ... and they starve to death becouse of bad economy...cant wait to visit athens and fck some cheap greek slut as we fck their grandmothers for years..... greeks sluts number one in world the chephest....We can send you some postcards of your old homes and dirty orthodox churches but promise not to cry ;)
Greece has many islands, and many passenger-ships...In a war ,the passenger ships would tranfer the main army to the islands...But at the begging of a war we need fast ships to carry as many soldiers they can to a Greek island or to the enemies ground...
@adventchild1001 to get troops as fast as possible to the eastern islands if need be. For the main reinforcements they would probably draft some of the 100s of civil ferries.
Οποιος έχει κάποιον γνωστό στο ναυτικό ας τον ρωτήσει ποια είναι η γνώμη που κυκλοφορεί στα ναυτικά κλιμάκια για τα αερόστρωμνα. Οπως επίσης ρωτήστε κάποιον που έχει εργαστεί στα ναυπηγεία πάνω στα υποβρύχια, οι απαντήσεις τους θα σας εκπλήξουν και δεν έχουν καμία σχέσει με τις εντυπώσεις που κυκλοφορούν στον κόσμο και στα ΜΜΕ.
@kouzikakouzi giafto to zubr petihe stis askisis ionas 2009 ke ionas 2008 katafernodas na kataripsi ikonika ta a7 ke mirage 2000 kanodas apovasi stin ko?fenete oti de kseris ke pola apo to naftiko
@itachiitachi1946 Stis eikonikes askiseis panta yparxei epityxia, den 8ymamai kapoia askisi ston strato i opoia na eixe kri8ei apotyximeni. Apo ta apotelesmata tetoiwn askisewn krinontai polla kefalia kai kanena anwtero kai anwtato stelexos den 8elei na er8ei antimetwpo me tin politiki igesia se mia tetoia periptwsi. Ka8e zitima exei polles parametrous.
@kouzikakouzi ego ipa oti ta zubr telesan tin askis horis na vomvardistun apta mahitika ke ta elikoptera.tora oso gia tin igesia...asto....ine oli tus anefthini(KE STO GEETHA malista..)
@itachiitachi1946 Oi periisoteres stratiwtikes askiseis kai kyriws aytes oi opoies die3agonte kai apo ta 3 swmata, 3ekinane kai teleiwnoun me vasi kapoio senario. Pragmatiki apovasi xwris na yparxei aeroporiki yperoxi den nomizw oti 8a epetrepan pote. Auta ginonte gia ta matia tou kosmou.
@ChinaskyHenk Russia is a 2 faced LIAR. As it looks like right now, Russia prefers Turkey more than Greece. Russia will most definitely prefer a Russian-Turkish alliance with a huge coalition of Muslim countries turned against the USA.
Wow that's one hell of a machine. Much props to the designers. It's funny though people hype this thing up yet it's forgotten that it carries armament because someone else will be firing at it as well. Even with these virtual "hover battleships" they'll still need air support to make a safe landing. Otherwise, the Zubr class is one hell of a fucking impressive sight to behold.
I wouldn't call them American vehicles anymore. We sell our military equipment to other countrys now. We have been training iraqy military on how to use M1A1 abrams tanks. That we just sold them. Get used to it cuz thats the way things are now.
yeah like TheARXAIOSELLHN said we combine the best. we also got to prime airdefences the patriot missile system and the s300s well i also prefer russian weapons btw
Guys ofcourse its a russian hovercraft with american hammers and APCs in its belly....we are greeks and we are in the xroads of East and West..... our military technology comes from both sides ( i prefer russian btw). Byzantium also had armies from east and west.... its just the geography of our land
Genius, american LCACs carry the heavy M1A1 Abrams tanks all of the time. Anyways, hovercraft are used to move troops and equipment from ship to shore after the coastal defenses have been knocked out by air power and targeted missile strikes.
There is no need for this "bear from the east" to be nuclear powered. If you want to make amphibious operation you will do it with normal propulsion anywhere in the world.
Zubr would be great for landing tanks on an undefended beach. But if someone deflates the aircushion on one side it will quickly lean to that side and start going in circles. At 65 knots it will overturn.
Zubr would not have been able to land troops in Normandy on D Day in1944, forget about today against a determined coastal defence. But you never know. Its strange appearance may cause shock and awe for a minute or so, enough time to reach the beach.
In short I believe that hovercraft work perfectly for disembarking defensive forces over 100% controlled territory. With even minor coastal gun defence, they can be easily immobilised then sunk with any cheap patrol craft or aircraft. At the same time they are not stalthy at all. Their real advantage is speed, albeit slower than: helicopters, aircrafts, missiles and only marginally faster than many missileboats.
I am a little disappointed the Jason class is so slow, so maybe this is why.
Its hard to slow down a hovercraft so it needs to come ashore very slowly the last kilometer from the beach, at 5 to 10 knots maybe, same speed as an assault landing craft .
I agree that a hovercraft is interesting. Personally, I would prefer to see him landing on sandy beach 300m inland, but greek islan shores look pretty steep (correct me if there are important exceptions). It is fast, but a popping-up helicopter is faster. It is faster than rocket boat with exocets, but deployment time slows down the average. It cannot escape by itself. Very vulnerable to artillery (light...) Noisy and easy to spot.
In Russia is only one place we can use it. Caspian Sea. But there is some ekranoplans there. In north, baltic, black seas and patific ocean a lot of troop ships.
3 kinhthres jet 11000hp o ka8e enas ta kanei apiasta alla o 8orubos ta kanei uperbolika eualota otan eperne 1 mprosta etrize olo to perama :P ta exw dei apo poli konta apla teleia !
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2.)Το άκουσαν αυτό η Τουρκι, όλες η εφημερίδες το έγραψαν. Τώρα είναι που θα μας κάνουν ότι Θέλουν. Δεν τον καταλαβαίνω τον Μαλακά τον Σημίτη.
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1.)Ο Σημίτης ο Μαλακάς είπε στην Γερμανία( 23.01.2012), ότι άμα γίνει κανένας Πόλεμος με την Τουρκία και Ελλάδα, ότι η Τουρκία θα χρειαζόταν δύο με τρεις ώρες να κατακτήσει την Ελλάδα. Αυτό που είπε είναι Αλήθεια, η το λέει αυτό για να μας τρομαξη. Κι άμα είναι έτσι, τότε γιατί δίνει η Ελλάδα τόσα δισεκατομμύρια EURO για όπλα, για να κράτηση μόνο δύο με τρεις ώρες. Δεν τους καταλαβαίνω τους πολιτικούς, δίνουν δικαίωμα στους Τούρκους να μας Κοροιδεύουν και να μας καβουν ότι θέλουν.
GR27george1 1 month ago
ok ucraine now wants us to take the 1 zubr we had ordered and hadnt recevied casue of some problems.lol id like to use that hovercraft for my vacations : P
itachiitachi1946 2 months ago
Not very discrete I might say
vortexZXR 2 months ago
Russians are from Texan- where everything Big.
tsns1 2 months ago
american is no for long trajet
TATARSTAN59500 4 months ago
Can some one tell me if this is good or bad? I mean I dont know
FailDrummer 4 months ago
That last comment seems very U.K. eng-land. It sounds like what heroin Granger would write. or a "house of common". It's not in caps, because they're common. But yeah---CHECK THAT!!!!!
TheOliverDg 5 months ago
Help please send 1 to me love gaddafi
Bugarick1 6 months ago
Δυστηχως κανενα δεν κυκλοφορει πια αν θυμαμε καλα...γιατι σκοπημα τα παρατησανε και δεν εχουμε και ανταλλακτικα...μπραβο στους πολιτικους...προκοψανε παλι.
IkarosHAF 6 months ago
I'd love the see one of those mofo's on turkey beaches
slafkec 8 months ago 5
the helicopter is louder than the bigass hovercraft ?
1337MrSam 8 months ago
i dont know if they are very useful(someone more qualified will answer that) but they sure are damn impressive!
6thsun25 9 months ago
@6thsun25 they r more than usefull to greek landscape cause of our many islands(we have 3225 islands).we had bought 4 and now we r using 3 of them casue we used the other one for spares.we r making agreements to buy 12 hovercrafts more(not specific country yet) and 2 more for strategic command of strategic supplies like nukes,warhead codes,satelite comunications and other type which i dont know very well.first well get the 3 new fremms with scalp naval and then well order those hovecrafts.
itachiitachi1946 9 months ago
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gay greeks even thier gods were gay .. we fucked them many times in history ... they cry now for their old orthodox trash churhes ;) ... and they starve to death becouse of bad economy...cant wait to visit athens and fck some cheap greek slut as we fck their grandmothers for years..... greeks sluts number one in world the chephest....We can send you some postcards of your old homes and dirty orthodox churches but promise not to cry ;)
gloriousottomanempir 10 months ago
@adventchild1001
Greece has many islands, and many passenger-ships...In a war ,the passenger ships would tranfer the main army to the islands...But at the begging of a war we need fast ships to carry as many soldiers they can to a Greek island or to the enemies ground...
mariosathens1 11 months ago
@adventchild1001 to get troops as fast as possible to the eastern islands if need be. For the main reinforcements they would probably draft some of the 100s of civil ferries.
Thanks for your kind comments, have a nice day
martinethson 1 year ago
Οποιος έχει κάποιον γνωστό στο ναυτικό ας τον ρωτήσει ποια είναι η γνώμη που κυκλοφορεί στα ναυτικά κλιμάκια για τα αερόστρωμνα. Οπως επίσης ρωτήστε κάποιον που έχει εργαστεί στα ναυπηγεία πάνω στα υποβρύχια, οι απαντήσεις τους θα σας εκπλήξουν και δεν έχουν καμία σχέσει με τις εντυπώσεις που κυκλοφορούν στον κόσμο και στα ΜΜΕ.
kouzikakouzi 1 year ago
@kouzikakouzi giafto to zubr petihe stis askisis ionas 2009 ke ionas 2008 katafernodas na kataripsi ikonika ta a7 ke mirage 2000 kanodas apovasi stin ko?fenete oti de kseris ke pola apo to naftiko
itachiitachi1946 9 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Stis eikonikes askiseis panta yparxei epityxia, den 8ymamai kapoia askisi ston strato i opoia na eixe kri8ei apotyximeni. Apo ta apotelesmata tetoiwn askisewn krinontai polla kefalia kai kanena anwtero kai anwtato stelexos den 8elei na er8ei antimetwpo me tin politiki igesia se mia tetoia periptwsi. Ka8e zitima exei polles parametrous.
kouzikakouzi 9 months ago
@kouzikakouzi ego ipa oti ta zubr telesan tin askis horis na vomvardistun apta mahitika ke ta elikoptera.tora oso gia tin igesia...asto....ine oli tus anefthini(KE STO GEETHA malista..)
itachiitachi1946 9 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Oi periisoteres stratiwtikes askiseis kai kyriws aytes oi opoies die3agonte kai apo ta 3 swmata, 3ekinane kai teleiwnoun me vasi kapoio senario. Pragmatiki apovasi xwris na yparxei aeroporiki yperoxi den nomizw oti 8a epetrepan pote. Auta ginonte gia ta matia tou kosmou.
kouzikakouzi 9 months ago
bugger me! it's like red alert only real. i love that. awesome:)
nicgormly 1 year ago
Με 60(!!!)ΚΟΜΒΟΥΣ????? Θα πρέπει να γαμάει!!! Μακάρι να έρθουν γρήγορα και νέες Φρεγάτες .
marios102 1 year ago 2
malakaaaa,
ti ein' toyto?
tremete...
unknown19811 1 year ago 2
@Jushniykray screw you its our now >:O
ikaros332 1 year ago
Yes, I've seen these from close-up at the Salamis naval base, they're awesome and massive!
alxxz 1 year ago 2
Wow.. It doesn't need a camo smoke. It has one lol
slavic1237 1 year ago
it's as stealthy as the night
(insert sarcasm here)
skaters4ever1 1 year ago 2
Brother Russians and Greeks are going to favorites!!!!
ChinaskyHenk 1 year ago 3
@ChinaskyHenk Russia is a 2 faced LIAR. As it looks like right now, Russia prefers Turkey more than Greece. Russia will most definitely prefer a Russian-Turkish alliance with a huge coalition of Muslim countries turned against the USA.
Don't trust Russians, especially Vladimir Putin.
GalCable 1 year ago
it is bad that it cannot go up hills haha
Xmk2123 1 year ago
Wow that's one hell of a machine. Much props to the designers. It's funny though people hype this thing up yet it's forgotten that it carries armament because someone else will be firing at it as well. Even with these virtual "hover battleships" they'll still need air support to make a safe landing. Otherwise, the Zubr class is one hell of a fucking impressive sight to behold.
mobius1aic 1 year ago
το χοβερκραφτ παει παντου με την τρελα του ελληνικου στρατου
kounenesxt250t 1 year ago
what a payload.... a m113 and a hummer
101andrewj 1 year ago
I havent see that before...looks huge...
parisclub 1 year ago
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@parisclub
Yes, I've seen these from close-up at the Salamis naval base, they're awesome and massive!
alxxz 1 year ago
Moooonsteeeerr !
Mrsgreki 2 years ago 4
I wouldn't call them American vehicles anymore. We sell our military equipment to other countrys now. We have been training iraqy military on how to use M1A1 abrams tanks. That we just sold them. Get used to it cuz thats the way things are now.
bingo686 2 years ago
thats so weird, American vehicles disembarking from a Russian hovercraft!
phrawgg2 2 years ago 9
yeah like TheARXAIOSELLHN said we combine the best. we also got to prime airdefences the patriot missile system and the s300s well i also prefer russian weapons btw
kariverson1 2 years ago
any excuse for us to go to the beach
Chris08TT 2 years ago
why american hummer / hummvee in ussr russia ship,,,
NO way
bestamerica 2 years ago
Look at the size of that beast!
nojyt 2 years ago 3
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@nojyt
Yes, I've seen these from close-up at the Salamis naval base, they're awesome and massive!
alxxz 1 year ago
Guys ofcourse its a russian hovercraft with american hammers and APCs in its belly....we are greeks and we are in the xroads of East and West..... our military technology comes from both sides ( i prefer russian btw). Byzantium also had armies from east and west.... its just the geography of our land
TheARXAIOSELLHN 2 years ago 3
Греция
VaytselPhilipp 2 years ago
Кто засунул американские поделки внутрь нашей прекрасной машины!? :) Ух поганцы!
0sL1cK 2 years ago 2
Genius, american LCACs carry the heavy M1A1 Abrams tanks all of the time. Anyways, hovercraft are used to move troops and equipment from ship to shore after the coastal defenses have been knocked out by air power and targeted missile strikes.
gManKilla86 2 years ago
There is no need for this "bear from the east" to be nuclear powered. If you want to make amphibious operation you will do it with normal propulsion anywhere in the world.
Flankymanga 2 years ago 2
NICE!!!!
MrLokmak 2 years ago
Guys they are very fast , beside there are not the only ships to protect our islands
MegiddianJim 2 years ago
Russians should have made that bitch nuclearpowered
Finalfire9 2 years ago 41
@Finalfire9 Don't worry. Israel will soon give few Hydrogen bombs to Greece, to make Turkey think twice about her next moves.
GalCable 1 year ago 3
@GalCable
Amen to that brother!
alxxz 1 year ago
@Finalfire9 What for? These are designed to be launched from LPD's.
wenjilu 3 months ago
Why Russian Zubr go Hammer?
maxispeed0 2 years ago
its greek army hovercraft made in russia
sixamaras 2 years ago 40
I understood. :)
Simply, it was amazing ..... American jeep and Russian vessel.
maxispeed0 2 years ago 6
Do ZUBR a lot of remedies defense.
Rocket - two launchers MC-227 to 140 mm unguided rocket projectiles (ammunition - 66 rounds) and the firing control system.
Artillery - two 30-mm automatic installation type AK-630 (the speed of the shot - 5000/minutu) and the firing control system MR-123-02.
Zenith - 8 sets of portable MANPADS such as "needle".
Mines -80 pc.
maxispeed0 2 years ago
Are they even used in war?
ChowZeb 2 years ago
Zubr would be great for landing tanks on an undefended beach. But if someone deflates the aircushion on one side it will quickly lean to that side and start going in circles. At 65 knots it will overturn.
vivek00 2 years ago
SOVIET POWER ---GREAT
djnat09 3 years ago 4
Oh fourse they are the fastest way to deploy an MBT (too heavy for helolift or parachuted airdrop). but we se none on the picture.
krbosak 3 years ago
Zubr would not have been able to land troops in Normandy on D Day in1944, forget about today against a determined coastal defence. But you never know. Its strange appearance may cause shock and awe for a minute or so, enough time to reach the beach.
vivek00 3 years ago
In short I believe that hovercraft work perfectly for disembarking defensive forces over 100% controlled territory. With even minor coastal gun defence, they can be easily immobilised then sunk with any cheap patrol craft or aircraft. At the same time they are not stalthy at all. Their real advantage is speed, albeit slower than: helicopters, aircrafts, missiles and only marginally faster than many missileboats.
I am a little disappointed the Jason class is so slow, so maybe this is why.
krbosak 3 years ago
Its hard to slow down a hovercraft so it needs to come ashore very slowly the last kilometer from the beach, at 5 to 10 knots maybe, same speed as an assault landing craft .
vivek00 2 years ago
anddd. a hovercraft is faster than most sea vehicles. and has a higher capacity than air transportation.
kx519 3 years ago
I agree that a hovercraft is interesting. Personally, I would prefer to see him landing on sandy beach 300m inland, but greek islan shores look pretty steep (correct me if there are important exceptions). It is fast, but a popping-up helicopter is faster. It is faster than rocket boat with exocets, but deployment time slows down the average. It cannot escape by itself. Very vulnerable to artillery (light...) Noisy and easy to spot.
krbosak 3 years ago
what a scary shiit
stainnnn 3 years ago 3
interesting fact is that Russian Navy doesn't use them because of price.
HELLENIGMA 3 years ago
In Russia is only one place we can use it. Caspian Sea. But there is some ekranoplans there. In north, baltic, black seas and patific ocean a lot of troop ships.
aktovegin 3 years ago
the Ekranoplans are getting chopped :(
Kirilltraceur 3 years ago
3 kinhthres jet 11000hp o ka8e enas ta kanei apiasta alla o 8orubos ta kanei uperbolika eualota otan eperne 1 mprosta etrize olo to perama :P ta exw dei apo poli konta apla teleia !
madart666 3 years ago 2
yparxoun 4 tetoia hovercraft ta tria ta exoume emeis kai ena oi rwssoi,
kokotselos 3 years ago
atsa ta hover.megali kainotomia.idika gia tin ellada einai xrisima.logo ton nision.
xountas19 3 years ago
Very nice hovercrafts
ChineseKungFu01 3 years ago 4
They are Russian-made. The largest hovercrafts in existence.
ReiAyanami4ever 3 years ago 8
Nice one
ChineseKungFu01 3 years ago
wow. great vihecle!
mctolisCORFU 3 years ago 2