Murrnong - a permaculture subdivision

[wlodzio47]

How to produce substantial amount of grain and hay for horse and cows???

Its easy to plant garden and fruit tree, but the most important is grain .

How to do that without using mono culture techniques.

[murrnong]

I do not need to grow grain to feed animals. In this climate we have grass growth year round, supplemented by tree fodder crops, especially tagasaste, carob, and oak. For human food, and a little for chickens, I take grain from a nearby cropping farm, but also will probably try some small scale grain cropping between the olive tree rows, most likely using the pasture cropping technique developed here in Australia. David

[aihlo]

you could allow peoeple to build or bring yurts too, to decrease the resources needed for homebuilding

[PermaFreak33]

David, thank you for sharing your vision with the world. I am in love with the images, feelings, and future you presented in these 8 minutes. -Thank you!

[niceslug]

hi when do the subdivision go up for sale

[murrnong]

am waiting on planning approval, probably be a couple of years yet. ... : )

david

[DrakeDorosh]

What if someone moves in to your property and behaves badly? Gets up earlier and packs off all the fruit and hocks more than thier fair share of the timber? Let's thier goats run wild and mistakes your livestock for thier own?

[murrnong]

The property will have a legally enforceable decision making process and management plan, just as laws apply to any houses in any street where there is a rule of law. I think we can make this place work at least as well. : )

David

[DrakeDorosh]

Thank you for your timely response. I think you can too. Though I don't have much taste for covenant based condominums or coop decision boards especailly when self interest inevitably emerges sometimes in an elitist way. The good news is that your chosen approach will develop an increasing bounty that will be desireable enough for contentions. Also aproductive community rather than a consumption based domicile.

[colddrake80]

How many people could be fed off the plot of land you have? It looks very nice but the population density - or lack thereof - would make this very hard to pull off with our current population.

[murrnong]

I think this land can easily support nine households, with surplus for sale. This place is presently underpopulated due to current planning regulations, with a review in the pipeline. David

[m3141592]

Knowledge like this will literally save the developed world from starvation when the oil runs out.

Good work.

[washad77]

Awesome!!!

[Litetechca]

Brilliant. I love this.  You have done just what I want to do here in NW Alberta Canada on 1/2 section of land that is in my family.

[FiendKILL]

Awsome

[blueeggsitter]

Lovely video! Can you recommend further reading I might do on permaculture on a smaller scale? I currently live on a 1/5 acre lot. We garden in containers and with earth boxes, capture rain water and compost. I would like to create swales in our front yard to capture more rain water and plant fruit trees.

[murrnong]

Hi,

I believe Brad Lancaster, a permie from the US, has a book on urban water catchment for gardening. Go well, Dave

[shashikmr]

Dear Respected Sir,

Thanks for sharing this amazing video. Views of yours are amazingly simple, clear and meantime as close to practicality as possible. I am small farmer from India, most of the farming communities in my country are moving to cities and towns in search food and shelter, deserting the lands. Wish most of us could adapt this simple and integrated approach to farming... thanks again for sharing.

Warm regards

Shashi

[murrnong]

Dear Shashi,

thank you for your kind words. Perhaps as food prices increase many people in India will return to farming, or begin growing food in towns if there is some space. I wish you good fortune with your own small farm,

warm regards,

David

[odin422]

Llamas would help for moving and they produce cloth

[murrnong]

yes Llamas would help for mowing, with a possible fibre product. Beautiful aniimals. Will integrate more animals into the system when more people live here to help with the management tasks.

[odin422]

shouldnt be hard to get pepolpe to live there, its quite well planned

To bad there are no hills or slopes to make trellises and ponds like Sepp Holzer, might help to regulate the heat

[theproducegarden]

nah, wasnt me, was it a doco on tv?

[theproducegarden]

great vid, thanks for sharing!

[murrnong]

no worries, thanks for the comment. did I see you in Acres Australia a few years ago?

Dave Arnold

[ourfortressisburning]

Great video! Thank you for the example you set!

[gk9]

Wonderful video and a wonderful idea!

Can you see any reason why this can't be done in the US?

[murrnong]

No reason. For eco-village development, it helps if the tree planting and shared land development can be done at the initial stage by the developers, as it becomes more difficult later for the new residents to do this.

[odin422]

where are you located in Australia?

I live in southern Californai and are looking for eco-villages and permaculture set-ups

Peace

[Permaculturebella]

Awesome video. Permaculture design for today and looking towards providing for future community and generations. Who do you see living in the new houses, future generations of your family or others?

[murrnong]

Most certainly others in the new houses, perhaps also with some family there. I am aiming to share with a diverse group of people, ages, some inclined toward farming, etc.

[murrnong]

Violet Town is in North East Victoria, inland of the Great Dividing Range, Adam. So the climate is warm temperate, rainfall about maybe 600mm / year, or less. I have progressively been remineralising the soil to ASlbrecht principles, sub-soil ploughed when we planted the trees, and pulse graze /mow the grass.

[murrnong]

to adamdm87 Another nice approach, especially for home gardens, is to plant more close together around the house so the plants shelter each other, and the house, and combine to produce a shaded and cooled environment. we will do this with our home gardens.

[murrnong]

to Adamdm87's question

The fruit trees were planted in advance of more people coming to live here. With more people living here, we will be able to manage the fruit trees more closely, with more interplanting and underplanting. When I set out the orchard I decided to space the fruit trees widely, to give each tree access to more stored soil moisture, and therefore a little less dependent on irrigation. This is one strategy where water is a limiting factor, as it often is in inland Australia.

[adamdm87]

Question: are all the fruit trees growing stand alone, or are they part of any kind of layered food-forest setup?

Also: what's the soil of the area like, and what do you add to it besides goat manure?

Just curious...

It looks nice there.

What part of aussie?

[PcPrinciples]

Really well presented David, and well filmed and edited Jean-Marc. Let's see more of this.

[mistaspot1]

We should all be living like this.

[AdamHintz]

Awsome!

[cmurkar]

As if the video and the message weren't beautiful enough, ending with Boards of Canada was just awesome. Good on ya,

Cheers