Nice video. It will make people think that the 1911 is somehow fragile, and we know that from how many thousands of rounds people put through them, they're fine. It's similar to any fine tuned piece of machinery; you take precautions. You wouldn't slam the hood on a Ferrari or fill it with 87 octane.
@booyalakasha1 I just purchased an Auto-ordinance 1911A1 parkerizzed and have fired about 200 rounds through it... great gun and have only had 1 jam (ammunition related) but it is very accurate and I love it. I would never buy a foriegn 1911... they just suck
@deadeye512 Thankyou for your feedback. Auto ordinance is a Thompson product which is owned by Khar firearms... ALL AMERICAN BABY Hell yes. Enjoy... Remember to keep em clean, keep em loaded, practice often and educate as many people (all ages) as you can about proper firearm handling.
1st, Taurus' aren't the best. 2nd No pistol is perfect but a 1911 comes DAMN close compared to a Glock, Or Sig, or Beretta or any other tactical handgun that is crapped out every 2 months.
i have a Mk4 series 70 gold cup national match my grandpa gave me, he shot thousands of rounds before giving it to me, and it shoots perfectly... you have that problem because your is a taurus
You can take every single gun and find "problems" with it, ways that its not reliable,how it dosnt fit your hand perfectly and so on. Time is the true test of any system. Now can you name me a few pistols still in wide use over 100 years old?
@OHwrestlingIO You can, but the point is that we've designed pistols that are simplier then the 1911 and have less ways of breaking or failing. That's the point he's making. I'd consider wide use to be around the world, and the 1911 is not really used world wide anymore, only in the United States really.
Yes we 1911 owners are proud of our guns and a well tuned 1911 is worth every penny. I'm a cop and I carry a 1911 on duty. I've had glocks and springfield XDs. Sold them after I shot my first 1911 to buy other 1911s. One more point. I have my grandfathers colt 1911 that he carried from 43 till the end of the war in the pacific. All original parts and it still shoots flawlessly with no work ever being done on it.
@Officizer This infatuation with the 1911 that it's some magical piece of American steel that NEVER breaks or jams is bogus. It's as bad as the guys who say AK's never jam. I have a WW1 1911 with a broken grip safety. Another one with an abnormally heavy trigger. And they have jammed before.
@esh325 Never said they dont break. My slide stop on my para broke after about 300 rounds didnt jam just didnt lock my slide back after the last round. In the end its all personal prefrence and skill set. I really dont like AK-47's Im more of an M-16 man myself.
Every design has its flaws. The glock, XD and other modern designs are no exception. In my opinion there is a reason why the 1911 is the weapon of choice for US special ops and defensive experts like clint smith and jeff cooper. It has perfect balance, great handling qualities and power to spear. And if made with quality or properly tuned is just as reliable as a glock. And it has a very long and traditional history and its trigger doesn't feel like a staple gun. there are no substitutes.
@MUSICALGUNNUT45 He never said that in that video. I hardly consider him an authority on anything, but squat. What does a well tuned 1911 cost? 1000$? A Glock 500?
@esh325 You get what you pay for in my opinion, comparing a glock to a well tuned 1911 is like comparing a prius to a cadillac sure the prius will get you from A to B without breaking down but it just doesn't compare to the beauty, craftsmanship and performance of a fine cadillac. Glocks are a good idiot proof gun that work but thats just about it. Don't get me wrong I love glocks and shoot the quite often but I've never fired a handgun that even compares to a 1911.
@MUSICALGUNNUT45 The 1911 is certainly a beautiful pistol with great history. The closest pistol to a 1911 in feel that I've fired would be a Browning Hi Power or CZ75.
It is amazing how the 1911 cult treat non users like we are witches or something. Folks, technology does move on. There is a reason modern are based on systems like the Hi-Power & Walther. The crazy cheerleading is clouding flaws.
Thank you for this vid! Where do you get your facts? You said something about the locking lugs getting worn out. I am always looking for technical articles on my favorite gun the 1911!!!
@ryanburbridge the locking lugs don't wear out thats, utter and complete bullshit. They're are an assload of old school vintage 1911s and they still work and their locking lugs are just fine.....this guy is throwing at you, a bunch of uneducated, un-checked, bullshit in such a confident manner that if you didn't know better, you might take him at his half-assed word
You are just repeating bad information. For one both barrels are also in contact with the breach face and the first movement of both is backwards. The millisecond that they are in contact is enough to allow the slide to cycle. Also check your lack of knowledge about extractors. The extractor has two jobs. It must be able to snap over the rim of the cartridge and hold it in place for the ejector. You assume that the shell does not get in front of the extractor when it cycles.
1911's from world war one are still reliably firing, everything you are saying is exaggerated, most completion shooters use 1911's and it ranks first on many handguns countdowns
@theshawner This is an absolutely exceptional video. Fact driven and data based. I can see by some of the comments that certain 1911 "afficianados" are bad-mouthing the Taurus...the military used the 1911 for 75 years...S&W has new external extractors...blah. These folks are too narrow to admit their baby is antiquated. Damned right S&W 1911s have external extractors...because of the design shortcomings the author mentions with the original! There are now better choices than the 1911.
@grantorino2009 and what would you conceive as fact that there are better choices then the 1911? Remember now, there is a big difference between opinion and fact.
here is a fact, 1911s have been widely in use for 100 years, another fact, many other designs were influenced by the 1911. Fact, competition shooters, nearly half of them, use a 1911, fact it is one of the best handgun designs in history
that being said, its not for everybody, but for those who use it, they got damn good reasons to
@Alexn1067 The 1911 is used most in competition because it's most commonly found in a race gun style configuration. The majority of police and military today use non 1911's.
@GohModley Not saying it's impossible, but I doubt it, especially off hand shooting. And the 1911's that are capable of that are accurized race gun type 1911's, not the originals. I've fired WW2 1911's and they aren't capable of that type of accuracy in human hands.
@bddc201 Looks like we have a H&K fanboy. haha all kidding aside 1911 still is king imho. What do the majority of ipsc shooters use? Sure other guns are better suited for different types of roles, ccw, hunting, hiking, but for accuracy the 1911 platform dominates. But I am a little skeptical of a USP shooting 1.5" at 50 and I mean 50 yards. Not 25 which is the standard testing length.
@vandalfan5816 Mentioned the H&K's because of personal experience. The 1911 would be virtually perfect if it had a fixed barrel. That would eliminate much of the timing and hand fitting that can make them so finicky. Great thing about the 1911 is there are so many different makers of components and accessories, it's like the Chevy 350 of handguns. Most pistols share at least some design characteristics with the 1911.
Very good informative video. It's hard to find a well based, knowledgeable video about firearms' troubleshooting on you-tube. I agree with both sides though. 1911 is a good weapon. You miss the point though, it has it's own limitations. Special forces switched to other modern platforms. The truth is the most dependable weapon on Earth is....REVOLVER. But you don't see them that often, because there r more sophisticated platforms, NOT because revolvers got worse. Anyway, where is the HATE from???
@theshawner just an example of why you are stunningly full of shit. Your bit on the extractor, that is how they all work. All extractor grab on to the casing as it is being chamber and are held in place with spring tension.
its like you are criticizing the design for working exactly as it was designed to work. You can dislike it..fine but don't make shit up.
you could honestly say that its heavy, only holds 8 rounds, its big. Those would be legit negative claims.
I'm not going to say what you are saying isn't true concerning some 1911's. I will say that I have shot over 6,000 rounds through my Colt .45 Gold Cup Trophy, and I have never had any of the issues you have talked about. I actually have never had one issue that you have mentioned in your video.
Of all the guns I have the Colt .45 Gold Cup Trophy has been the most reliable and best shooting gun that I own.
find me a 70 year old HK that will still fire....oh wait. 0.o
and there is nothing "wrong" with the hk magazine release. its just so different from the standard, people with other handguns tend to not like it for muscle memory.
all you points on the 1911 are flawed and pointless. they are only problems if they effect function. a well made 1911 is 100% the equal to any modern handgun.
stop bashing a pistol design older then your grandfather and still holding strong
@theshawner dude you sound like a hater and your info is more biased and polished bullshit rather then real knowledge. Yeah John Browning didn't know what he was doing and you sure sound like an expert gunsmith (sarcasm)
for your info, Browning was one of the greatest firearms designers to ever live and its no surprise that his pistol is still in wide use after 100 years. You can't argue with that.
@theshawner the 1911 is still in wide use by law enforcement, military organizations around the globe, Special forces and civilian competition shooters alike...AND ITS HARDLY BECAUSE ITS NOSTALGIC
and who the hell made you a gunsmith expert? I guess you know better the John Browning huh?
I can see how the 1911 wouldn't be a favorite pistol or preferred pistol....its not for everyone. But to make up utter bullshit like you just did in this video.....its simply audacious.
@Alexn1067 The 1911 has very little military and police use these days outside the United States. I can't really think of any armies or police forces that use the 1911 outside the US.
@theshawner Outdated? Shucks...then you really ought to let FBI Hostage Rescue Squad and SWAT know about these fatal design flaws. They use them, but I guess they just don't know any better.
the extractor problem is a pretty bad argument, S&W makes a 1911 with an external extractor, so do a few other manufacturers. also taurus is a lower quality brand.
With the 1911, you really have to be careful about which company you buy from as they are made by many different companies and the quality of which will vary.
I took a gamble with Auto Ordnance, I did research into many different companies that made the model I was looking to get (like you should before you buy) AO had severe problems in the 80's and early 90's. Kahr arms took over in 99 and they have a good track record and are hungry to make a great 1911 that will offset AO's tarnished past.
@Alexn1067 he even said that the trigger bar have a tendency to bend? what an idiot! it is sandwich tight with the magazine and frame body itself! the 1911 has the best trigger of ALL guns that has ever made! even the polymer market is copying most of the design that the 1911 have. this guy is a complete moron, he reminds of a 12 yr. old know it all kid.. FURTHER EDUCATE MY ASS. He must have regret making this video.
This shit is funny, I got a WW2 1911 and still functioning well, my grandfather stop counting the rounds at 5000, then it was passed on to my dad then passed on to me, still freakn functioning well. OMG own a quality 1911 shoot it alot and shoot it more then make the freakn video. you did so much research on theory not on experience. theres a reason that model is still around buddy. lets see how long will the polymer frame guns last.
@Mr2fierce absolutely, this video was such bullshit, it was hard to watch,
the guy really thinks, read a few articles supplied by HK or Glock on the "flaws of the 1911" and all of the sudden I am an expert and I am here to educate you.
you brought up a good point, a weapon has to be well made or it won't function, even if its design is great.
Sorry but I can't accept this as a video response, there is wayy too much bullshit on the internetz already, and I don't want this shit on my channel.
Arguing "superficial problems" "ie bullshit" that are not "real problems" is something that I find disgusting and I try to combat on a daily basis.
If you wanna make a vid and cuss me out I'll approve it, but I'm not going to add bullshit to the heap pile of bullshit, that is "information" found on the internetz
Most of the "problems" you mention aren't really problems if the firearm is produced properly. Yours is a Taurus...enough said.
There is really no disadvantage to the Browning-style locking lugs. The FN Hi Power, Tokarev, and CZ-75 use them.
I know you must like HK a lot (judging by your response to my comment on the HK mag release thread), but HK pistols are not even proven in combat. No pistols have seen more successful combat use than the M1911, Tokarev, and Hi Power.
@Andrewsky89 The problems I explain are inherent in the 1911 design regardless of the manufacturer. All 1911's are prone to the engineering limitations of it's design specs.
I just explained how the rotating link design wears out the locking lugs.
Judging by your response on the mag release thread you believe there is an invisible man in the sky who tells you which mag release style is best. Your argument is invalid.
@theshawner this may come as a surprise to you, but every firearms has limitations, in fact, every design of anything has limitations. There is no god ordained firearm.
sorry dude but these "issues" do not wipe away nearly 100 years of excellent performance.
what is one of the most popular pistols for military, law enforcement, civilian, and competition shooters, you can name other brands but you wouldn't leave out the 1911.
and personally, half this stuff I wouldn't consider a problem.
@theshawner its clear that you are a shill for your HK, that is fine, we all have bias for certain designs. The point is, you should be honest and objective and not try to justify your preference because you don't have to. All this crap that you and people like you peddle about certain things (anything) does nothing more but lead the uninformed astray.
I don't like polymer pistols, that is why I like 1911s, SIGs, that is my preference, not to say there is something flawed about polymer frames.
lol yea this video reminds me of the "M16/M4 reliability problem, increased bolt friction causing jams" video, where just some guy behind a camera acts like he just " discoverd the dark hidden secret of the AR15 design" LMAO !! Both have been the most PROVEN beyond any shadow of doubt to be effective in modern combat, but some guy behind a camera says otherwise..
Not against change "especially with rifles" but the use for a sidearm is just too simple, you're just arguing about can openers now
there is no perfect weapon out there that gives you the best of everything
just what you are comfortable with and what you are not
its like this, no one can Argue that an AK-47 is a great weapon, but not everyone will like it. and just because you don't like it, doesn't mean its a piece of shit, to say so would be to lie.
@theshawner In all of your "research" did you by chance notice the time span that this was the service weapon of our military or the fact that its still the handgun of choice for the majority of civilians? PS buy cheap guns expect low quality
@TheRiflemanChannel lol I agree, I love how this guy all of the sudden has like a PHD in small arms function and metallurgy.
I watched all of these parts and the guy is flat out making shit up or at best assuming or exaggerating.
I saw his vid of his taurus pt malfunctioning, and the problem was quite clear, he had a bad extractor...simple, there is no magic formula that lead to a FTE. any pistol with a bad extractor will have bad results. its quite clear he is biased..fine just be honest.
@Andrewsky89 that's nonsense just because a gun has been used for a long time doesn't mean its still a good and usable system. the m1903 springfields plenty proven but would you say its something we should still be using in combat? not to mention that the fact that a gun has had a long service life doesnt mean its "proven" the guns still unreliable as shit and all of the problems are DESIGN flaws. i get it you think its cool because its a classic but dont rag on hks bc they werent in WW2
@Andrewsky89 Completely agree, I can see how people might not favor the 1911, like everything else it has a certain taste appealing to a certain pallet. But to go on a rant in an effort to invent problems with a design just because you don't like it. This guy is clearly fishing.
Different units (and individuals) all carry different sidearms. SEALs are famous for using P226s, and Delta, MARSOC, and Recon Marines have all used 1911s frequently. There is no real 1 "special forces issue" pistol. The MK.23 was officially adopted, but we have no recorded knowledge of how, when, and by who it was used, and to what extent.
I do know for a fact that many people in that community despised it purely out of size. Drawing it with a can attached was near impossible.
@Andrewsky89 "Yours is a Taurus...enough said" my first thoughts exactly lol. any high quality 1911, not high "value" 1911 wont experience these problems. a 1911 is also the only gun you can totally DETAIL strip and reassemble using no tools, only pieces already found on the gun. try adjusting a glock trigger without the specialized tool, it wont happen. theres a reason just about every company tries to produce a version of the 1911
@Andrewsky89 amen to that man. but in my opinion this guy is just anti-1911. truth of the matter is the reliability, durability and accuracy of the 1911 if far superior than almost all semi auto handguns. especially his HK. i also hear sigs are good too!
Nice video. It will make people think that the 1911 is somehow fragile, and we know that from how many thousands of rounds people put through them, they're fine. It's similar to any fine tuned piece of machinery; you take precautions. You wouldn't slam the hood on a Ferrari or fill it with 87 octane.
mr00jimbo 4 days ago
looks like an improperly fitted taurus. Get an original made in America 1911 and you will see a difference.
booyalakasha1 1 month ago
@booyalakasha1 I just purchased an Auto-ordinance 1911A1 parkerizzed and have fired about 200 rounds through it... great gun and have only had 1 jam (ammunition related) but it is very accurate and I love it. I would never buy a foriegn 1911... they just suck
deadeye512 2 weeks ago
@deadeye512 Thankyou for your feedback. Auto ordinance is a Thompson product which is owned by Khar firearms... ALL AMERICAN BABY Hell yes. Enjoy... Remember to keep em clean, keep em loaded, practice often and educate as many people (all ages) as you can about proper firearm handling.
booyalakasha1 2 weeks ago
1st, Taurus' aren't the best. 2nd No pistol is perfect but a 1911 comes DAMN close compared to a Glock, Or Sig, or Beretta or any other tactical handgun that is crapped out every 2 months.
AlllamericanQB 1 month ago
i have a Mk4 series 70 gold cup national match my grandpa gave me, he shot thousands of rounds before giving it to me, and it shoots perfectly... you have that problem because your is a taurus
BadAssEngineering 2 months ago
You can take every single gun and find "problems" with it, ways that its not reliable,how it dosnt fit your hand perfectly and so on. Time is the true test of any system. Now can you name me a few pistols still in wide use over 100 years old?
OHwrestlingIO 4 months ago
@OHwrestlingIO You can, but the point is that we've designed pistols that are simplier then the 1911 and have less ways of breaking or failing. That's the point he's making. I'd consider wide use to be around the world, and the 1911 is not really used world wide anymore, only in the United States really.
esh325 4 months ago
Yes we 1911 owners are proud of our guns and a well tuned 1911 is worth every penny. I'm a cop and I carry a 1911 on duty. I've had glocks and springfield XDs. Sold them after I shot my first 1911 to buy other 1911s. One more point. I have my grandfathers colt 1911 that he carried from 43 till the end of the war in the pacific. All original parts and it still shoots flawlessly with no work ever being done on it.
Officizer 4 months ago 3
@Officizer This infatuation with the 1911 that it's some magical piece of American steel that NEVER breaks or jams is bogus. It's as bad as the guys who say AK's never jam. I have a WW1 1911 with a broken grip safety. Another one with an abnormally heavy trigger. And they have jammed before.
esh325 4 months ago
@esh325 Never said they dont break. My slide stop on my para broke after about 300 rounds didnt jam just didnt lock my slide back after the last round. In the end its all personal prefrence and skill set. I really dont like AK-47's Im more of an M-16 man myself.
Officizer 4 months ago
@Officizer A slide lock shouldn't break after only 300 rounds, sounds like poor quality.
esh325 4 months ago
@esh325 yea cant argue with that but so far Im at 1500 with no other problems.
Officizer 4 months ago
@Officizer Sweet! Good to here that.
cbassfishin 4 months ago
Every design has its flaws. The glock, XD and other modern designs are no exception. In my opinion there is a reason why the 1911 is the weapon of choice for US special ops and defensive experts like clint smith and jeff cooper. It has perfect balance, great handling qualities and power to spear. And if made with quality or properly tuned is just as reliable as a glock. And it has a very long and traditional history and its trigger doesn't feel like a staple gun. there are no substitutes.
MUSICALGUNNUT45 5 months ago
@MUSICALGUNNUT45 Special operations don't only use the 1911. Just as reliable as a Glock? Or did you pull that out of a hat?
esh325 4 months ago
@esh325 If its well tuned a 1911 is just as reliable as a glock. If you don't believe me watch theARMORYchannel video " 1911 myths"
MUSICALGUNNUT45 4 months ago
@MUSICALGUNNUT45 He never said that in that video. I hardly consider him an authority on anything, but squat. What does a well tuned 1911 cost? 1000$? A Glock 500?
esh325 4 months ago
@esh325 You get what you pay for in my opinion, comparing a glock to a well tuned 1911 is like comparing a prius to a cadillac sure the prius will get you from A to B without breaking down but it just doesn't compare to the beauty, craftsmanship and performance of a fine cadillac. Glocks are a good idiot proof gun that work but thats just about it. Don't get me wrong I love glocks and shoot the quite often but I've never fired a handgun that even compares to a 1911.
MUSICALGUNNUT45 4 months ago
@MUSICALGUNNUT45 The 1911 is certainly a beautiful pistol with great history. The closest pistol to a 1911 in feel that I've fired would be a Browning Hi Power or CZ75.
esh325 4 months ago
It is amazing how the 1911 cult treat non users like we are witches or something. Folks, technology does move on. There is a reason modern are based on systems like the Hi-Power & Walther. The crazy cheerleading is clouding flaws.
WALTERBROADDUS 5 months ago
Best. Pistol. Ever. Made. Hands down. You simply cannot argue this law.
dont138 5 months ago
Thank you for this vid! Where do you get your facts? You said something about the locking lugs getting worn out. I am always looking for technical articles on my favorite gun the 1911!!!
ryanburbridge 9 months ago
@ryanburbridge the locking lugs don't wear out thats, utter and complete bullshit. They're are an assload of old school vintage 1911s and they still work and their locking lugs are just fine.....this guy is throwing at you, a bunch of uneducated, un-checked, bullshit in such a confident manner that if you didn't know better, you might take him at his half-assed word
Alexn1067 5 months ago
lol...pretty bad video. I know you think you are doing a service here but yeah...don't buy a Taurus. Enough said.
Trenaur 10 months ago
The only limitations that I'm aware of are low mag capacity, weight, and size.
Those limitations aren't problems for me. A well made 1911 is as reliable, durable, and accurate as any popular modern day pistol, and often more so.
Orthrus 11 months ago
@Orthrus It's outlandish to think that none of the pistol designs after the 1911 ever improved on it.
esh325 9 months ago
Anything coming from a person using a Taurus should be ?'d imediately.
DobermansRock 1 year ago
You are just repeating bad information. For one both barrels are also in contact with the breach face and the first movement of both is backwards. The millisecond that they are in contact is enough to allow the slide to cycle. Also check your lack of knowledge about extractors. The extractor has two jobs. It must be able to snap over the rim of the cartridge and hold it in place for the ejector. You assume that the shell does not get in front of the extractor when it cycles.
dblgonzo 1 year ago
1911's from world war one are still reliably firing, everything you are saying is exaggerated, most completion shooters use 1911's and it ranks first on many handguns countdowns
BALJIT147 1 year ago
@BALJIT147 It probably had its parts replaced at one point in its life, or it saw little use.
esh325 1 year ago
Handguns shooting 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards?? Yep its a 1911. Name another.
vandalfan5816 1 year ago
@vandalfan5816 Any .22 target pistol.
theshawner 1 year ago
@theshawner This is an absolutely exceptional video. Fact driven and data based. I can see by some of the comments that certain 1911 "afficianados" are bad-mouthing the Taurus...the military used the 1911 for 75 years...S&W has new external extractors...blah. These folks are too narrow to admit their baby is antiquated. Damned right S&W 1911s have external extractors...because of the design shortcomings the author mentions with the original! There are now better choices than the 1911.
grantorino2009 1 year ago
@grantorino2009 and what would you conceive as fact that there are better choices then the 1911? Remember now, there is a big difference between opinion and fact.
here is a fact, 1911s have been widely in use for 100 years, another fact, many other designs were influenced by the 1911. Fact, competition shooters, nearly half of them, use a 1911, fact it is one of the best handgun designs in history
that being said, its not for everybody, but for those who use it, they got damn good reasons to
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@Alexn1067 The 1911 is used most in competition because it's most commonly found in a race gun style configuration. The majority of police and military today use non 1911's.
esh325 1 year ago
@theshawner Cool, now name a combat pistol other than a 1911 that will shoot 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards.
GohModley 3 months ago
@GohModley Not saying it's impossible, but I doubt it, especially off hand shooting. And the 1911's that are capable of that are accurized race gun type 1911's, not the originals. I've fired WW2 1911's and they aren't capable of that type of accuracy in human hands.
esh325 3 months ago
@vandalfan5816 H&K MK 23, H&K USP, H&K P9S, H&K P7 (all variants), S&W 422, Virtually any SIG pre-1980.
bddc201 4 months ago
@bddc201 Looks like we have a H&K fanboy. haha all kidding aside 1911 still is king imho. What do the majority of ipsc shooters use? Sure other guns are better suited for different types of roles, ccw, hunting, hiking, but for accuracy the 1911 platform dominates. But I am a little skeptical of a USP shooting 1.5" at 50 and I mean 50 yards. Not 25 which is the standard testing length.
vandalfan5816 4 months ago
@vandalfan5816 Mentioned the H&K's because of personal experience. The 1911 would be virtually perfect if it had a fixed barrel. That would eliminate much of the timing and hand fitting that can make them so finicky. Great thing about the 1911 is there are so many different makers of components and accessories, it's like the Chevy 350 of handguns. Most pistols share at least some design characteristics with the 1911.
bddc201 4 months ago
@vandalfan5816 A bolt action pistol dominates the 1911 in accuracy.
esh325 4 months ago
@esh325 Cool would you take a bolt action pistol into combat?
GohModley 3 months ago
@GohModley Only if I had nothing else.
esh325 3 months ago
you are truly a legend in your own mind.
flyinbryan1619 1 year ago
Very good informative video. It's hard to find a well based, knowledgeable video about firearms' troubleshooting on you-tube. I agree with both sides though. 1911 is a good weapon. You miss the point though, it has it's own limitations. Special forces switched to other modern platforms. The truth is the most dependable weapon on Earth is....REVOLVER. But you don't see them that often, because there r more sophisticated platforms, NOT because revolvers got worse. Anyway, where is the HATE from???
antiigravity 1 year ago
@antiigravity What hate?
theshawner 1 year ago
@theshawner just an example of why you are stunningly full of shit. Your bit on the extractor, that is how they all work. All extractor grab on to the casing as it is being chamber and are held in place with spring tension.
its like you are criticizing the design for working exactly as it was designed to work. You can dislike it..fine but don't make shit up.
you could honestly say that its heavy, only holds 8 rounds, its big. Those would be legit negative claims.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
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I'm not going to say what you are saying isn't true concerning some 1911's. I will say that I have shot over 6,000 rounds through my Colt .45 Gold Cup Trophy, and I have never had any of the issues you have talked about. I actually have never had one issue that you have mentioned in your video.
Of all the guns I have the Colt .45 Gold Cup Trophy has been the most reliable and best shooting gun that I own.
Maybe I'm lucky I don't know.
lcromy 1 year ago
find me a 70 year old HK that will still fire....oh wait. 0.o
and there is nothing "wrong" with the hk magazine release. its just so different from the standard, people with other handguns tend to not like it for muscle memory.
all you points on the 1911 are flawed and pointless. they are only problems if they effect function. a well made 1911 is 100% the equal to any modern handgun.
stop bashing a pistol design older then your grandfather and still holding strong
dan16802 1 year ago
when a modern firearm fights for 100 years and through two world wars maybe we will consider it on the same level as the 1911.
shuttup, they work. and many from WW1 are still at the range shotting right beside glocks, sigs ect.
dan16802 1 year ago
@dan16802 When a modern off road vehicle fights for 100 years and through two world wars maybe we will consider it on the same level as a horse.
shuttup, they work. Many people are still riding horses today.
theshawner 1 year ago 4
@theshawner dude you sound like a hater and your info is more biased and polished bullshit rather then real knowledge. Yeah John Browning didn't know what he was doing and you sure sound like an expert gunsmith (sarcasm)
for your info, Browning was one of the greatest firearms designers to ever live and its no surprise that his pistol is still in wide use after 100 years. You can't argue with that.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@theshawner the 1911 is still in wide use by law enforcement, military organizations around the globe, Special forces and civilian competition shooters alike...AND ITS HARDLY BECAUSE ITS NOSTALGIC
and who the hell made you a gunsmith expert? I guess you know better the John Browning huh?
I can see how the 1911 wouldn't be a favorite pistol or preferred pistol....its not for everyone. But to make up utter bullshit like you just did in this video.....its simply audacious.
Alexn1067 5 months ago
@Alexn1067 The 1911 has very little military and police use these days outside the United States. I can't really think of any armies or police forces that use the 1911 outside the US.
esh325 5 months ago
@esh325 look it up, thats all I can tell you. Unlike the maker of this vid, I wouldn't say something unless I did my homework on it
Alexn1067 5 months ago
@Alexn1067 Can't really find much reliable info. Wikipedia lists countries that don't even use them anymore.
esh325 5 months ago
@esh325 That is because better guns like the Hi power & Walther came along.
WALTERBROADDUS 5 months ago
@WALTERBROADDUS I would have to agree with that.
esh325 5 months ago
@theshawner yes, but the horse is replaced with a new one every few years.. they dont work, they die..
bgomusicco 3 months ago
@theshawner Outdated? Shucks...then you really ought to let FBI Hostage Rescue Squad and SWAT know about these fatal design flaws. They use them, but I guess they just don't know any better.
;)
NWRichmond 3 months ago
@theshawner so I take it you're an expert gunsmith and can design the next pistol that will be around and popular for 100 years? (sarcasm)
Alexn1067 1 month ago
@dan16802 this guys butthurt because he probably loves 9mm's.
AlllamericanQB 1 month ago
@AlllamericanQB ... Or he couldn't afford a real 1911 so he settled on this beyond worn out taurus and probably for a single c-note.
MrDannees 1 month ago
John M. Browning would slap the shit outta this fool. Now I see why this dude only has 64 subscribers(as of now). lulz
matajesus4 1 year ago
Wow. Six minutes and eighteen seconds dedicated to unadulterated misinformation. Impressive.
kuduvid 1 year ago
the extractor problem is a pretty bad argument, S&W makes a 1911 with an external extractor, so do a few other manufacturers. also taurus is a lower quality brand.
kennyclone 1 year ago
the design is more than 100 years old. Browning designed it in the late 1890's as a project to replace revolvers. good video though!
brutedude1 1 year ago
ho-humm...
fooltymjerk101 1 year ago
With the 1911, you really have to be careful about which company you buy from as they are made by many different companies and the quality of which will vary.
I took a gamble with Auto Ordnance, I did research into many different companies that made the model I was looking to get (like you should before you buy) AO had severe problems in the 80's and early 90's. Kahr arms took over in 99 and they have a good track record and are hungry to make a great 1911 that will offset AO's tarnished past.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@Alexn1067 he even said that the trigger bar have a tendency to bend? what an idiot! it is sandwich tight with the magazine and frame body itself! the 1911 has the best trigger of ALL guns that has ever made! even the polymer market is copying most of the design that the 1911 have. this guy is a complete moron, he reminds of a 12 yr. old know it all kid.. FURTHER EDUCATE MY ASS. He must have regret making this video.
Mr2fierce 1 year ago
This shit is funny, I got a WW2 1911 and still functioning well, my grandfather stop counting the rounds at 5000, then it was passed on to my dad then passed on to me, still freakn functioning well. OMG own a quality 1911 shoot it alot and shoot it more then make the freakn video. you did so much research on theory not on experience. theres a reason that model is still around buddy. lets see how long will the polymer frame guns last.
Mr2fierce 1 year ago
@Mr2fierce absolutely, this video was such bullshit, it was hard to watch,
the guy really thinks, read a few articles supplied by HK or Glock on the "flaws of the 1911" and all of the sudden I am an expert and I am here to educate you.
you brought up a good point, a weapon has to be well made or it won't function, even if its design is great.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
The Marine Corps just went back to the 1911.
jandersunstr 1 year ago
@jandersunstr Are you sure?
HiCapacity 1 year ago
@jandersunstr not fully, but the 1911 has been making a comeback, the 9mm just isn't getting the job done as well as they need it to.
m9s are still standard issue, but there special units are issued 1911s
I want 1911s (upgraded that is) to replace the beretta.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
Sorry but I can't accept this as a video response, there is wayy too much bullshit on the internetz already, and I don't want this shit on my channel.
Arguing "superficial problems" "ie bullshit" that are not "real problems" is something that I find disgusting and I try to combat on a daily basis.
If you wanna make a vid and cuss me out I'll approve it, but I'm not going to add bullshit to the heap pile of bullshit, that is "information" found on the internetz
TheRiflemanChannel 1 year ago
Most of the "problems" you mention aren't really problems if the firearm is produced properly. Yours is a Taurus...enough said.
There is really no disadvantage to the Browning-style locking lugs. The FN Hi Power, Tokarev, and CZ-75 use them.
I know you must like HK a lot (judging by your response to my comment on the HK mag release thread), but HK pistols are not even proven in combat. No pistols have seen more successful combat use than the M1911, Tokarev, and Hi Power.
Andrewsky89 1 year ago 9
@Andrewsky89 The problems I explain are inherent in the 1911 design regardless of the manufacturer. All 1911's are prone to the engineering limitations of it's design specs.
I just explained how the rotating link design wears out the locking lugs.
Judging by your response on the mag release thread you believe there is an invisible man in the sky who tells you which mag release style is best. Your argument is invalid.
theshawner 1 year ago
@theshawner this may come as a surprise to you, but every firearms has limitations, in fact, every design of anything has limitations. There is no god ordained firearm.
sorry dude but these "issues" do not wipe away nearly 100 years of excellent performance.
what is one of the most popular pistols for military, law enforcement, civilian, and competition shooters, you can name other brands but you wouldn't leave out the 1911.
and personally, half this stuff I wouldn't consider a problem.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@theshawner its clear that you are a shill for your HK, that is fine, we all have bias for certain designs. The point is, you should be honest and objective and not try to justify your preference because you don't have to. All this crap that you and people like you peddle about certain things (anything) does nothing more but lead the uninformed astray.
I don't like polymer pistols, that is why I like 1911s, SIGs, that is my preference, not to say there is something flawed about polymer frames.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@theshawner Dude your great great grand kids would be 50 before that barrel lug wears out so dont sweat it!
Mr2fierce 1 year ago
lol yea this video reminds me of the "M16/M4 reliability problem, increased bolt friction causing jams" video, where just some guy behind a camera acts like he just " discoverd the dark hidden secret of the AR15 design" LMAO !! Both have been the most PROVEN beyond any shadow of doubt to be effective in modern combat, but some guy behind a camera says otherwise..
Not against change "especially with rifles" but the use for a sidearm is just too simple, you're just arguing about can openers now
TheRiflemanChannel 1 year ago
@TheRiflemanChannel So 1911's don't have any reliability, durability, or design problems? What the hell? I did all this research . . .
theshawner 1 year ago
@theshawner no more then a glock or an HK,
there is no perfect weapon out there that gives you the best of everything
just what you are comfortable with and what you are not
its like this, no one can Argue that an AK-47 is a great weapon, but not everyone will like it. and just because you don't like it, doesn't mean its a piece of shit, to say so would be to lie.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@theshawner In all of your "research" did you by chance notice the time span that this was the service weapon of our military or the fact that its still the handgun of choice for the majority of civilians? PS buy cheap guns expect low quality
carter050591 1 year ago
@TheRiflemanChannel lol I agree, I love how this guy all of the sudden has like a PHD in small arms function and metallurgy.
I watched all of these parts and the guy is flat out making shit up or at best assuming or exaggerating.
I saw his vid of his taurus pt malfunctioning, and the problem was quite clear, he had a bad extractor...simple, there is no magic formula that lead to a FTE. any pistol with a bad extractor will have bad results. its quite clear he is biased..fine just be honest.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@Andrewsky89 It's just brand snobbery. Even the Colts I've shot weren't very impressive in the reliability area.
esh325 1 year ago
@Andrewsky89 that's nonsense just because a gun has been used for a long time doesn't mean its still a good and usable system. the m1903 springfields plenty proven but would you say its something we should still be using in combat? not to mention that the fact that a gun has had a long service life doesnt mean its "proven" the guns still unreliable as shit and all of the problems are DESIGN flaws. i get it you think its cool because its a classic but dont rag on hks bc they werent in WW2
0391cc 1 year ago
@0391cc
The M1911 is unreliable because John Moses Browning fucked up the design?
Andrewsky89 1 year ago
@Andrewsky89 That's exactly why the U.S. Navy Seals use HK pistols; because they are not proven in combat.
No, 1911s don't suck. Taurus sucks.
Spike00513z 1 year ago
@Andrewsky89 Completely agree, I can see how people might not favor the 1911, like everything else it has a certain taste appealing to a certain pallet. But to go on a rant in an effort to invent problems with a design just because you don't like it. This guy is clearly fishing.
Alexn1067 1 year ago
@Andrewsky89 You forgot that the HK USP in .45 ACP and the Mk23 SOCOM are used extensively by US SPEC OPS and are proven pistols as such.
KiwiStalk 11 months ago
@KiwiStalk
Different units (and individuals) all carry different sidearms. SEALs are famous for using P226s, and Delta, MARSOC, and Recon Marines have all used 1911s frequently. There is no real 1 "special forces issue" pistol. The MK.23 was officially adopted, but we have no recorded knowledge of how, when, and by who it was used, and to what extent.
I do know for a fact that many people in that community despised it purely out of size. Drawing it with a can attached was near impossible.
Orthrus 11 months ago
@Andrewsky89 "Yours is a Taurus...enough said" my first thoughts exactly lol. any high quality 1911, not high "value" 1911 wont experience these problems. a 1911 is also the only gun you can totally DETAIL strip and reassemble using no tools, only pieces already found on the gun. try adjusting a glock trigger without the specialized tool, it wont happen. theres a reason just about every company tries to produce a version of the 1911
eliasfrangoulis 10 months ago
@Andrewsky89 amen to that man. but in my opinion this guy is just anti-1911. truth of the matter is the reliability, durability and accuracy of the 1911 if far superior than almost all semi auto handguns. especially his HK. i also hear sigs are good too!
xxuncexx 9 months ago
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esh325 6 months ago
@xxuncexx All you have are paper guns. You haven't used any of the said guns in question so you don't have a valid opinion.
esh325 6 months ago
@esh325 im sorry i dont understand asshole
xxuncexx 6 months ago
@xxuncexx Why u mad bro?
esh325 6 months ago
@Andrewsky89 right on.
Alexn1067 5 months ago