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  • I'm struggling with the "good people make bad decisions" concept. People are so quick to argue that he didn't intend to injure the guy. When you choke somebody to the point of passing out and then drop their head on a tile floor, you're responsible for the results.  Furthermore, that defines you (at least at that moment) as a 'bad' person. His inability to act rationally in an impromptu conflict makes him a danger to society. The jury did their job. What's a fair sentence?

  • lol coulda been worse where i live no one fights wid fists guns get the job done

  • @416fynest yea your all pussys, cant settle shit the old fashioned way

  • I am glad homecoming was shut down and I'm glad this weekend wasn't like the last five before it. I cannot tell you how many times I saw situations during homecoming that so easily could have turned out like this one. People who live here have been afraid to go out on that weekend or to work outside on the streets around the university at times. Good job Kingston police and those who came in here to help out!!!

  • Whats the story behind this video? Did this kid just randomly put this guy in a choke hold? The biggest critisim of MMA for me is all these people that watch these events on television or go to shows think there instantly experts on some of the grappling techniqes that they see. Choke holds are very dangerous. Thats why alot of police organizations have forbidden there officers from using them. This particular hold that this dumb ass is appliying can kill someone in under 15 seconds.

  • I also know this guy, and you know if the other guy hadn't eged him on for this than it would not have happened it was both peoples fault, regardless of the final outcome, it takes two to fight.

  • @snake502678

    That may be so, but the 'street rules' and the law are two different things. You can consent to fight somebody, but you cannot consent to be injured. So, though it takes two people to engage in a 'consensual' fight, both have to accept responsibility for damages or injuries caused by their actions. It may seem unfair, but it protects people who have diminished capacity. Mackenzie McDonald caused injuries to a fellow citizen. For that he has been charged and convicted.

  • Yes Mr Gibson is now home, as for the long term effects, well close friends of his and mine have not updated me as of yet. The point to all of this is. That too many punks are being allowed to pull crap like this and walk away without so much as a time out. Parents need to parent and punks need to pay for their actions. Unless we start enforcing the rules this bs will continue to escalate. Home coming and drinking are no excuse for bad actions.

  • Hey, from USA, glad they got this white thug, spoiled piece of shit. Also, shame on all the pampered, middle class punk kids who stood by or egged it on...your life of spoiled privilege has made you callous towards the working class...may revolution come and destroy your elite lives.

  • @anthony68drake Yeah, his whiteness probably had a lot to do with it.

  • Oh one more thing Bagenls85, are you or your pal going to be there Christmas day when this man's kids have to go without because their father hasn't been able to work for the past few months, let alone walk, talk, eat or take care of himself. Some how I don't even think Mr Gibson will even enter your mind while you are opening your gifts and spending time with your family. That is how much your LOSER pal has taken from these kids and this family! So xmas day take 5 mins to think about that.

  • Hey Bangels85, I am glad that I don't know this punk kid! I would be humiliated to have been associated with such a loser! And don't mistake my words, any one who takes a father away from his kids, a husband away from his wife. A man who earned a living for his family, whom now has to go without is a huge LOSER! . More time away, and months trying to get his life back. I hope your pal, goes a very long time before he gets to have a life!

  • damn.....my freind told me there was a fight right around that area, i should ask him if he saw anything

  • around that area? that in the hub, there are dozens of fights there weekly.

  • oh SSSOOOORRRRRYYY

  • I's so angry that this crap is still going on.This victim is still in the hospital and only just out of a coma!This kid should be charged with attempted murder.The victim has always been a gentle, easy going man. Hey punk are your parents proud of what and who you have become! Bet your grandparents are really proud of you crap! You are a pathetic coward. It is this type of attitude that makes pple wonder if we should ditch the young offenders act. I hope you do proper time for this!

  • This guy did not die he got out of the hospital about a week ago and he has short term memory lost this is called home coming week the queens unviersty students get drunk and run all over the place destroying peoples lawn and all other shit like this! This was a bunch of teenagers who don't know how to take alcohoal the right way

  • @bluzzzyrocks321 Well they might not take it the right way, but they sure as hell can spell it the right way.

  • Can't belive people belive fighting is kool i seen people fight and they end up with a bloody nose a bash to the head and end up with some1 breaking it up its fun to watch but not fun if ur fighting

  • This is a huge deal, the family is from my small town. He was in ICU with a respirator in a coma with 15 IV's running through. He has a toddler and an infant. He might have brain damage. Thank god they got the guy.

  • Poor little guys can't hold their liquor eh? Kids now a days are wussy. And the person working was obviously a wuss also, derr. Hope you get them!!!

  • messing around ? The guy in the baseball cap cracked the guys head off the floor and the victim is in series condition

    The liitle bitch who did this turned himself in when the police put this on youtube

  • If it was no BIG DEAL then why is the victim only just out of his coma! Do the math that was over a month in a coma! No big deal, you are an idiot. How do you think he can feed his family from a coma! How do you think his children feel seeing their daddy lying in a hospital bed on the verge of dying! No big deal. You should remember that if it ever happened to you or someone you loved. I am sure you will think it is a big deal!

  • Can the embedding feature please be enabled so I can post the video directly and not just the link? More people will see it that way.

    Thanks.

  • Sad, Sad, Sad how can someone who is supposed to be bright(university student)do this to another person. And where are the morals of all the people standing around encouraging such behavior. All persons present who did not stop this deserve to be punished as well, this is mob mentality behavior. Shame on all of you.

  • This is so disturbing. No one deserves to be treated that way, especially not a man simply trying to get himself a sub. All that aside, how the people kept pushing him when he was in a headlock, wtf is wrong with them?? He can't even do anything and he's just taking it. I really hope he recovers and my best wishes and prayers are with his family.

  • My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family. The actions of these individuals cannot be excused, even if they are drunk. I hope they get punished to the full extent of the law, because they deserve nothing less. This literally makes me sick to my stomach, how dare they do that to another human and I hope they suffer for what they've done. Motherf*ckers.

  • Have you guys ever been hit in the head? When you get hit in the head hard, you tend to kind of fall over, like the guy here did. The victim IS NOT INTOXICATED, he's KNOCKED OUT. And yet people still pushed him in, I guess since the surrounding people were drunk and assumed EVERYBODY had to be drunk, even if this guy just got off work and wanted a freaking sub. I hope the victim won't have lasting brain damage, and my thoughts are with his family.

  • How dare you guys make assumptions about the victim? He just got off from work, he's not INTOXICATED, he's pretty much UNCONCIOUS and fallen over on the guy, and those drunk idiots are still pushing him in to fight!! And sure the "suspect" is just a university student who normaly wouldn't do this. Say that to the victim's family .. considering he's still in a coma, has brain damage, and this incident will affect the rest of his life. I hope the suspect gets what's coming.

  • He also has a wife and little kid

    It sad when pointless crap like this happens

    And the guy in the baseball hat who did this is a little bitch...He could get his let me tell you...he looks like a little girl...whats he doing acting like a tough guy ? I bet his victim never fought back...probably not in his nature...but maybe he should have

  • Perhaps since the suspect has turned himself in, they should take this video down now...?

  • This happened at 1:45 in the morning! The "suspect" would in no way mean to harm anyone in the way that happened to the man. This was a unique situation where things escalated quickly. BOTH parties to the incident were in the wrong - not just the "suspect". The "victim" is by no means innocent as there was violence from his end as well. My thoughts and prayers go with the man in the hospital and his family AS WELL as the "suspect" and his family.

  • Illegal street party was just ending when this happened...people from that party were pouring into the subshop afterwards...The VICTIM had just finished up work(laying tile at a near by Canadian Tire store) he entered with his boss....You can add up what happened pretty fast

  • I have no heart felt feelings for your buddy, who you are obviously siding with. The victim, is a hard working, gentle and kind man. Not a fighter and was not drinking. You are an idiot if you think that the victim was at fault! I hope your buddy gets to be someone's girlfriend in jail! Supporting a loser drunk like your buddy, just goes to show your lack of intellect!

  • First and foremost, my thoughts and prayers are with the man and his family. It is very sad that he is in such a severe state.

    That being said, the "suspect" is by no means what the articles in the newspapers, this video, or the comments on this video make him seem. He is neither an angry nor aggressive young man. He is a full-time student attending University. Both parties to this incident were in the wrong - the "victim" was not innocent. He was extremely intoxicated himself.

  • Just be careful what you say and make sure you get your facts straight as the "victim" who has a name by the way was not severely intoxicated. What disgusts me is that the bystanders are actually pushing Mr.Gibson back into the fight. Drunk or not the attacker was aware of what he was doing and he turned himself in 2 weeks after the attack

  • FYI, the video shows the attacker in his true form. He is what we are seeing and I hope he gets the charges upgraded to attempted murder. The victim is not, nor has he been a drinker! You need to be better informed before you start posting comments! Makes others think you were one of those who were egging on the attacker, and maybe one who pushed Mr GIbson back into the fight! Humm Were you there? Did you have a few drinks with your buddy? Did you get just a little involved in the fight?

  • FYI. this does not show the attacker in true form what so ever, have you ever met the kid? no i didnt think so and if you had i assure you that you would feel differently. i do feel for the family of the victim and hope he recovers fully but i think that you should learn about the person that you think you know so well.

  • ya he will be a punk in federal system i work in federal system guys like him become someone laundry boy lol

  • As of today (oct 11) the victim is still in a coma. If he survives what are his chances of living a normal life? The police could have stopped these Aberdeen St parties years ago. I predicted a tragedy would happen before they were stopped. Isn't this enough? Being drunk is NO excuse.

  • I know this kid. He is and idiot for doing something so callous. I hope he shows some remorse for his actions. Thoughts and prayers go out to the Victim and His family.

  • where did you hear this information?

  • he is not a punk you have no idea what you are saying.

  • ya he is a punk bud when he gets a federal sentence he,ll be someone laundry boy . i work in federal pen see punks like him all the time lol

  • We all make mistakes. And for the record, you should all really mind your own buissness. Little do you all know is that he actually turned himself in, no one apprehended him, he's taking resposibility for his actions and will deal with the consequences. Once again my sympothy goes out to the victims family and friends, I hope he is ok. Now do this young man and his family a favor and let him be, the investigation is on going and whatever happens happens.

  • I just have to say that i know who the guy is that is being charged, ive known him since he was 7 years old. Nevmiles ur a dick for posting his name, you dont know him and had no right. Anybody that knows the victim i am sorry for what happened. markdad1 your a moron, hes not in a "gang" hes actually a fulltime student and the people around him are friends.. drunken friends, the same with him, we've all been to university and we've all partied.

  • he,s a punk lol\

  • um.. who in their right mind puts someone in a head lock because they butted in a SUBWAY LINE UP?! subway.. come on... and to throw him down on the ground like that.... it wat made the victum to be like wat he is now... soo dont say ppl are morons because the real moron is someone.. who (Pretty much)KILLS SOMEONE CUZ THEY BUTTED IN A FAST FOOD LINE-UP!

  • Your freinds a lowlife... and nothing more.

    And the Whig posted his name... and it's about time, if he gets off for being a University student (as they always do) maybe justice will find it's way to him anyway.

    And he did not turn himself in until his face was posted on Youtube and Facebook and neither he nor his freinds did anything after the incident but run away.

    "lowlife" is not strong enough a term.

  • He's been caught and charged with aggravated assault and choking, according to the paper/

    Mackenzie Gerald McDonald is the suspects name . . .

  • I meant I hope that the viticum pulls through andgets better.

  • I'm happy that they caught the guy who assaulted the viticum. I'm hoping he will get better soon. My prays and thoughts are with him and his family and friends.

  • I'm glad the suspect has been caught. I also grew up with the victim, I've known him since kindergarten. Really upsetting to see this happen to an old friend, and I pray that he makes it out alive. This is an avoidable tragedy. No excuse for this type of behaviour.

  • He has been caught and I hope he gets to think what he has done while he sits in jail for a long time. There is no control anymore with these thugs. I think the Government should make a zero tolerance for gangs and violence!!!!

  • very disturbing that so many people would not want this person to be identified. I believe he will get what he has coming to him and so will all the people who watched and did nothing.

  • I went to elementary and secondary school with the victim....he has many, many friends who are hoping and praying that someone will recognize this horrible person and turn him in! AND shame on those girls standing there watching...as well as the other guys...they are all horrible human beings. I feel sorry for all of us and our future as these people are helping to shape it!!

  • they aren't saying scott or john they r saying fight outside no names at all

  • your an idiot whoever put scott...re-play the video, its sounds 99% like john...my buddy thinks he knows the guy..looks familiar

  • then please have your buddy contact the police as any little bit helps....this guy needs to be caught

  • If anyone who sees this knows this scumbag, do the right thing and turn him in!

    My thoughts and prayers are with the family S2

  • Sounds like his name is Scott, but that is probably obvious!

  • Sounds like his name is Scott, but that is probably obvious!

  • I heard about this and didn't think it was true. But kudos to Kingston Police Force for using new media/web 2.0 tools! I'm posting this to my facebook profile to see if anyone knows anything.

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