StarCraft 2 - [Z] Speedlings Scouting & Reactionary Play - Strategy

[1SavageDragon1]

creep also has the advantage of working on the opponents psychology. it makes them think the army is bigger than it actually is. i bet it also contributed alot to the guy who called an early gg

[MajkaSrajka]

1:59

Be at the better adventage? :D

[Ninitos1]

my concern as a noob is that,ok...expansion=adittional minerals...so early expo =early addiotional plus on economy..BUT you need to reach 30 gatherers in order to gather at max....so whats the point?(aside from zerg/extra larvae).30x50 minerals=1500....shitload of lings :)

[TheLobotomist]

Some baaaaaaaaad forcefields right there. I suppose the banelings caught him off-guard, as you rarely see them in ZvP, usually it's roaches. I guess it makes sense to go with the banelings, seeing that pure zealot/sentry (all light units) and the +1 melee upgrade.

[TheLobotomist]

Some baaaaaaaaad forcefields right there. I suppose the banelings caught him off-guard, as you rarely see them in ZvP, usually it's roaches.

[Skyn3tus]

russian talking at the beginning :)

[fate255]

I like how you say there's no point in explaining getting more minerals is good, and then explaining. But good commentary as always; a little humor goes a long way.

[jokivich55]

rly nothing he could do against banelings w/ that comp

[Yes1014]

if I playing against zerg, I would zealot rush if expansion come out

[hameruson]

Hey Force, try not to be so formal when you make your vids. Talk to us like you would talk to your best friend. And when you mess up just make fun of yourself and move on, it actualy some times makes it better. Just some tips! Keep em Coming!!

[Ninitos1]

@hameruson i like the fact that he is formal yet friendly.Force is the best for me.

[slcslobalt]

wouldnt roach/hydra been a better response to 4 gate? why banelings against toss?

[neurallydegenerated]

@slcslobalt The toss player only had zealots and sentries. Both of which are weak against banelings cause they are light units with no armor.

[TRiPgod]

zerg OP

[BobxLawxBlaw]

@TRiPgod Are you shitting me? Terran OP.

[Spetsnaz1220]

@TRiPgod hahahah. no.

[jojje311]

@TRiPgod Nothing is OP

[seltzinator]

Anddddd thats why you use Stalkers.

[BobxLawxBlaw]

@seltzinator Wouldn't have helped. Maybe if zerg had gone roaches, but banelings are the anti-gateway/barracks rush

[Zmapes89]

Dimaga seems to be a good sport as he sends in many replays to force even when he loses in them.

[bomper575]

why didnt he apply early pressure when he saw that fast expand?

[wesker723]

i don't get it , he saw the expo at 3 minutes why didn't he mass 3 or 4 zealots to harass him

[Joesterisk]

@wesker723 spines

[foresttdog]

that was a reactionary play strategy cast? looked like he got zerglings....

[foresttdog]

that was a reactionary play strategy cast? looked like he got zerglings....

[MintJustin]

Holyshit! What an attack!

[psynthpriest]

Suf-eye-shent lol, made me laugh/cough, now I have grits in my nose thank you very much.

[nmcy01]

its a bit of a nub question but wat do you mean when you say 14 supply or 21 supply?

[whickedshell]

@nmcy01 look at the top right corner there is a suply counter. if he says 14 spawning pool, he means you get a spawning pool when you have 14 supply so you make a building at 14 supply.

[thesoundofdistortion]

@nmcy01

on the top right you see something like 14/19, the left is what they mean so so and supply. basically on a certain unit count. 

[MrMuffles869]

@nmcy01 ugh, he only explains that like every other video. It means food, or whatever else you to call it. It couldn't be more self-explanitory. So if he says, "16 hatch", he means Dimaga dropped a hatchery at 16 drones, or 16/18 supply.

[madssebasse]

@MrMuffles869 correct ^^

[Filo011]

thanks alot man!! i always have problems with mass zealot armys

[Xilitor]

are you in mTw in SC2? :OO

[fighterboy800]

@Xilitor

No, the zerg in the video is mtwDimaga who is a professional european zerg player

[gibaotani]

all in. fail. gg.

[ltsjack]

@gibaotani Not necceraly an all in, had it been an even battle with both the zerg and protoss losing equal ammount of army I'm sure whitera could've transictioned out of it.

[skaptiben]

@zeheero cause he lost his entire army doing no damage

[visualkei72]

daym! it's rare to see WhiteRa tap out so quick! regardless, he's amazing, as is Dimaga.

[DMBisAwesome]

I love watching these vids. They are done so well, its nice to hear quality commentary that is entertaining and informative. thx a lot. ~ end dick sucking no homo

[bernie23232323232323]

why didn't the protoss expand after he saw the zerg fast expand?

[ReptaurStarcraft]

@bernie23232323232323 Well the protoss player went for more of a 2gate push, and as it is a relatively early push its gonna be done of of 1 base so that it can happen asap. Also, if that push was succesful he couldve done enough economic damage to the zerg player to either balance it out o give the protoss player a safe window of time to build his own economy by expanding :D

[cdis2188]

@ReptaurStarcraft the thing is he didnt go 2-gate though. whitera went 1 gate into core, so he wouldnt have been able to put that type of early pressure on anyways because of not being able to produce that fast off one gateway

[xiAresx]

wow i didnt know dimaga is russian as well lol thats cool. they were talking bout how its hard to defend the expo on this map btw if anyone wanted to know

[Farkeman]

@xiAresx Dimaga is russian ? omg thats the first and only russian i like then !

[700007123]

@Farkeman No, he is Ukrainian

[Farkeman]

@700007123 aw ok then , ukrainians > russians :)

[700007123]

@xiAresx Dimaga is Ukrainian

[FraNcoTirAdoRgaming]

It feels to be sooo risky to throw down the hatch first at 16, 2gate opening vs zerg is just too common, to delay 2nd hatch and lairtech

[ndewhurst12]

Force, I think that Dimaga got lucky vs WhiteRa. At the engagement it seemed that WhiteRa wasn't paying attention, as his forcefields were extremely late. The banelings are slow even on creep, so if he was able to drop a few forcefields in time he could have either killed a majority of the lings before getting hit with the blings, or pulled away from the army and force Dimaga to separate his army if he chooses to pursue.

[OpIvy1]

@ndewhurst12

But he didn't and that's why he lost. Even if he had better placement he still would have lost that fight. Not enough ranged units to pick off the banelings in time.

[ndewhurst12]

@OpIvy1 Watch the fight. He pretty much walks his units into the Banelings before even reacting. If he was able to drop the forcefields then he would have had sufficient time to micro his units into better positions. I am a Diamond level Zerg, and one of the most competitive match-ups for me is ZvZ. It is all about ling and baneling micro 80% (roughly) of the time. I don't use ranged units to pick off the Banes, you just need to micro your melee units correctly.

[OpIvy1]

@ndewhurst12

I agree that the timing was off but I disagree that it would have effected the outcome that much. I guess that is why I'm still in platinum and to be honest I'm not too good with my banelings. ;)

Thanks for the tip about micro though with zvz. I struggle with this as well.

[thefirstlazydude]

@ndewhurst12 to add those force fields weren't exactly well placed most force field placements with that many sentries could surround his force with force fields except a few openings and the zerglings would get sliced up

[ndewhurst12]

@thefirstlazydude Excellent point. This is exactly what I was trying to articulate.

[zeheero]

he sure GG fast.....

[ferrarithief]

Awesome strategy!

[longliveemomusic]

comment rush!

[theguybye]

second!

[Pirakasch]

:( xD

[nagana]

gotta say first sorry ;P

[longliveemomusic]

@nagana =.=