Again, like I have been saying, sspx cannot fogive mortal sin because they do not have canonical status. so “those who die in mortal sin or with original sin only… immediately descend into Hell”. What I have been saying all along.
We see fulfilled the prophetic words of Pope Leo XIII in his prayers to St. Michael: "In the Holy Place Itself, where has been set up the See of the most Blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered" In the past history of the Church, there have been difficult times which should guide us in our perseverance to the true Faith.
Between the death of Pope Clement IV (11/29/1268) and the election of Pope Gregory X (9/1/1271). A vacancy of the Apostolic See for three years. Other vacancies also occurred in various dioceses throughout the world. In order to provide shepherds for the faithful, bishops were consecrated to fill these vacant Sees. The most important aspect of this historical precedent is that Pope Gregory X affirmed the lawfulness of the consecrations, which took place without the usual papal mandate.
Canon Law describes the three types of jurisdiction: ordinary, delegated, and supplied. The traditional clergy today receive supplied jurisdiction at the moment of their administration of the Sacraments. And the Church for the spiritual benefit of the faithful provides this. Generous and beneficent is our Holy Mother the Church.
According to Canon 2261: "The faithful can for any just cause ask for Sacraments or sacramentals of one who is excommunicated, especially if there is no one else to give them." And the Novus Ordo can’t give what they don’t have. A well-known principle of sacramental theology is" the Sacraments are for men (Sacramenta propter homines).
The confusion on the part of some lay "theologians" is the issue of "canonical mission." They erroneously hold that unless a bishop or a priest has a "canonical mission," he cannot lawfully administer the Sacraments. Their problem is their lack of understanding of the distinction between orders and jurisdiction.
In The Sacred Canons by Rev. John A. Abbo, S.T.L., J.C.D. and Rev. Jerome D. Hannan, A.M., LL.B., S.T.D., J.C.D. we read:
The hierarchy of orders is the power which of its nature directly promotes the sanctification and the salvation of the faithful through public worship, especially through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and the administration of the sacraments. The hierarchy of jurisdiction is the power of governing the faithful in order that they may be brought to eternal life.
“The confusion on the part of some lay "theologians"”. You hit the nail on the head. That is why I get all my information directly from the Roman Catholic Church & its bishops that are in communion with Rome, not some cult that is trying to justify its actions for disobeying the Holy Father.
What do you think I’ve been quoting, Wall-mart? I’ve quoted Scripture, Canon Law, past Sainted Popes and Saints. I have showed you where these modern popes have gone against Christ & Scripture, history, traditions of the Church and Canon law. When a pope goes against these things, ‘you’ have a duty to resist. One has only to read the secular news to see the results of these modern popes.
Don’t judge them, God will do that; just use your common sense.
“What do you think I’ve been quoting, Wall-mart”... Well actually yes. Lol!. I am intrigued in how you twist scripture & canon law to suit your own arguments.
The current elected Pope Benedict xiv that the Holy Ghost selected says the NovusO Mass is valid. The sacraments are valid in the Roman Catholic Church & all three of its Masses ordinary, extraordinary (Low & High) are valid also, to think otherwise is absurd.
These past two popes were not even ‘crowned’ with a papal tiara; they just want to be a bishop among bishops, to destroy the Papacy that you try to defend. They want to remove everything Catholic that divides everyone. The problem they have is, some of still want to follow Christ and ‘be’ Catholic.
Novus Ordo priests today don’t even take vows, are installed to preside.
At the next election of a pope look for them to discharge the pope from being a Bishop of Rome to elsewhere.
The manager at McDonalds is also valid but he is killing you with his valid grease, just as the Novus Ordo has and is murdering souls with Vatican II and its new sacraments. Mass attendance down 50 percent since VII, adult converts from 27 percent down to 12 percent, baptisms down to 2 percent. I can go on-and-on. The good thing is, the old liberal Catholics are dying off and are not being replaced. People are waking-up and they want the real Traditional Catholic Latin Mass and valid Orders.
The NovusO is growing again. Vocations are on the rise & the fruits of Vatican 2 are happening. What is so beautiful about Vatican 2 is that the vocations happen without them being forced down your throat. At sspx, vocations are forced down your throat. An sspx priest said that if you do not follow your vocation as a priest, you will burn in hell when you die, regardless of what good you do... interesting.
Novus Ordo vocations are way down, so New Order radical clergy will try to find anything to plug the hole: first married presbyters, then married laypeople, then priestesses. Most of these options have already been unofficially implemented. So yes, the fruits of Vatican II are happening.
We have a validly elected Pope called Pope Benedict xiv that the Holy Ghost selected. Lefebvre disobeyed a direct order from a validly elected Pope JP2 not to consecrate the 4 bishops. It’s very simple to see that Lefebvre’s act would automatically ex-communication him by canon law, which it did. Lefebvre died in the state of ex-communication. Shocking when you think about it.
Archbishop Lefebvre really believed that he was acting out of necessity. If he was indeed correct in his belief that it was really necessary to consecrate the bishops, then he would not be subject to any penalty whatever (can. 1324.4). If he was in error and even if he was culpably in error in believing that it was necessary to consecrate bishops without a mandate from the Pope, then he still would not incur any automatic (latae sententice) penalty (can. 1324.3).
Acts 2:38, But Peter said to them: Do penance, and be Baptized every one of you..." I think that verse would include everyone, including infants and children of all ages. Peter did not say to leave your infants at home and wait until they are older.
what your chruch tried to do when Martin Luther told the church members the truthb about what the bible contains in german and other languages. Your church then said if you dont pay tithing you are condemned to hell. You bastards!
Luther was a Catholic Augustinian monk heretic, who was excommunicated. He was the originator of the false man-made doctrine of Sola Scriptura. There is only one Bible and it is a Catholic Book. Luther claimed his own authority by 'twisting' Holy Scripture in a futile attempt to justify himself.
Rome says that sspx has no canonical status thus its confessions & marriages are not valid. This means that if you are in mortal sin, & confess to a sspx priest, you will still be in mortal sin.
We traditionalists will continue to live the Faith of our fathers regardless of what Rome has to say. It is not traditionalists who have left the faith. Today, Rome has no credibility and has lost its moral compass. However if Rome would come back to the faith there would not be a problem with obedience to Rome.
Regardless of what traditionalists thinks or sspx thinks, if you commit a mortal sin & go to a sspx priest for confession, he cannot forgive your sin. This is what the Roman Catholic Church teaches because sspx has no canonical status. Why someone would want to stay in mortal sin by going to confession at sspx is something I cannot understand, especially after hearing this sermon about hell.
Today, It doesn't matter what Rome thinks. It matters what Tradition, Dogma and Canon Law has to say. You don't understand because you don't want to understand, perhaps you are comfortable living a Novus Ordo life style?. St. Athanasius had no canonical status, so what? St. Athanasius akin to today's traditionalists will continue to live the Catholic Faith if you like it or not...
Archbishop Lefebvre really believed that he was acting out of necessity. If he was indeed correct in his belief that it was really necessary to consecrate the bishops, then he would not be subject to any penalty whatever (can. 1324.4). If he was in error and even if he was culpably in error in believing that it was necessary to consecrate bishops without a mandate from the Pope, then he still would not incur any automatic (latae sententice) penalty (can. 1324.3).
All religions believe they are correct & Lefebvre is the same, that’s why the Pope said that Lefebvre did not understand the Catholic faith. The church is divine & guided by the Holy Ghost. The last 5 Popes have been pro vatican 2. Sspx has no apostolic succession & no canonical status thus mortal sin cannot be forgiven by a sspx priest. The NovusO teaches that a soul is in grave danger if it’s in the state of mortal sin. Why sspx’rs want to stay in mortal sin is beyond me.
Traditionalists believe as the Church has always taught and have introduced nothing new.
Traditionalists believe that the Novus Ordos are the ones in jeopardy of mortal sin as traditionalists believe, worship and follow all the Church has taught for 2,000 yrs. Traditionalists are not the ones who have changed the faith and who’s morals are in question. Yesterday Ireland has withdrawn their ambassador from Rome. Don’t you wonder why? Yes, unfortunately it is beyond you.
Atheists believe God does not exist; some people believe abortion is ok; sspx believe they can forgive mortal sins. Rome however says God exist, abortion is wrong & sspx cannot forgive mortal sins because sspx does not have canonical status. What you or I or traditionalist believe is irrelevant; it is what the Apostolic Authority (Rome) teaches. Traditionalists believe that canonical status is not important. This is unfortunately new introduced by TCs.
Again, traditionalists have introduced nothing new, and what we believe is relevant because what we believe is what the Church has always and everywhere taught. Surely you don’t want the SSPX and all traditionalists to be just like the new church? Who would ‘stand firm and hold to the traditions which we were taught? Because the Church in a state of emergency canonical status is granted, like it or not. Look it up. Everything you got, you got from us. The new church is in apostasy.
Rome is a continuous living tradition. The official papal statement is that there has been no rupture from tradition. Rome has not given a state of emergency & granted canonical status. That is sspx’s opinion, which they have no apostolic authority to say so. Rome has said that sspx cannot minister until the canonical status is resolved. You have introduced something new because TCs have said that Rome is irrelevant & Rome is in apostasy. This is totally new & not catholic.
Living tradition? Fat chance. What about the Arian hearsay or today’s hearsay? B16 wrote a book in which he denies Catholic doctrine and yet Catholics are suppose to care if he says the SSPX has no canonical status because they won’t quit believing and practicing the faith as Catholics always have. SSPX sacraments are valid because of matter, form and intention regardless of what those in apostasy say. St. Athanasius was Catholic wasn’t he?
The Holy Ghost has a choice of 500+ priests +4 bishops of sspx that he could have raised to Pope.
The Holy Ghost instead chose 5 successive V2 Popes. Is sspx saying the Holy Ghost got it wrong 5 times in a row?
Rome says sspx mass is valid. However Rome says confession & marriages is not because sspx does not have canonical status. This means when a couple get married in sspx & has sex, it’s a mortal sin. Communion after this act is now a sacrilege.
1. The Holy Ghost never gets it wrong; He gives man free will to screw up on his own.
2. It’s nice that Rome says the SSPX Mass is valid, and I suppose? it’s nice that Rome says Protestant marriage is valid, but not SSPX? Get real wake up! When SSPX’ers have sex it is not a mortal sin, it’s heavenly delight and we raise all our children as Traditional Catholics as our forefathers have done. Get over it...
1. Ratzinger was pro-v2, & as B16, is still pro-V2. Did the Holy Ghost & sspx expect a different outcome with B16?
2. Rome says a protestant married in a protestant church is valid. An atheist married in a civil law is valid. A Catholic is under catholic law, thus he needs church & priest in full communion with canonical status. Sspx’r are catholic thus are under catholic law. The sspx priest does not have canonical status thus the marriages are not valid & the children are well.... “b”
1. Another way to say it is: Card. Ratzinger was under suspicion of heresy during VII, remember he was the one who wore a suit to Vatican II - and after becoming pope wrote a book to prove he is a heretic. Same outcome expected.
2. All Traditionalists have canonical status because the (Church supplies) in a state of emergency. Are you trying to say the Church is not in emergency? The “Law of Logical Argument” is: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. Study up.
1. The Holy Ghost has to take responsibility for choosing B16 as Pope. He could have chosen sspx to be pope & bring back the so called tradition. What is going on here?
2. Rome has not given you canonical status. You are under catholic law & cannot create fantasies that you have supplied jurisdiction.
3. V2 have martyrs that have given their lives for the novus ordo. We have the current JP2 beatification. V2 has fruits. sspx have no fruits & no saints & no martyrs.
1. Don’t blame the Holy Ghost for choosing B16, men with free will did that.
2. The Church has had over 40 anti popes or anti Christ’s in its history, look it up – How do you think the Church survived? It survived with (Church Supplied Jurisdiction).
3. Even Protestants have martyrs for Christ even though they don’t follow the True Faith. In October JP2’s beatification will prove that the Novus Ordo is against the Church.
4. I think you are spitting into the wind of Church dogma and history…
Sspx have replaced God with man. NovusO Catholics cannot even imagine an invalid Pope because Christ promised that he would be behind ALL successors of St Peter. If that is ever broken, the living tradition is broken, & no amount of dodgy TC canon law manipulation can correct it. TCs are humanists. They do not believe the church is divine. JP2s beatification will seal V2 as authentically Catholic.
I am intrigued with TCs bizarre twisted interpretation of Catholic dogma & history.
The Novus Ordo has replaced God with man and I can prove it, see my youtube video “New Religion New Mass – Traditional Catholic Latin Mass”. Again, JP2’s beautification will prove the Novus Ordo is false. I noticed you don’t ask me to provide examples of JP2 & B16’s heresy, are you afraid? Traditionalists are the remnant spoke about in scripture, look it up. While you’re at it, look at Canon Law and Church history about Supplied Jurisdiction., and Google antichrist, It’s part of Church history.
Jesus said, the gates of Hell would not prevail against the “Church” not any one pope. Matt: 16:18. Good popes and bad popes come and go but the Church still stands thanks sometimes to the main body of the Church, and today thanks to the remnant, the traditionalists who hold to what the Church has always and everywhere taught. All the Dogma and all the Traditions. Next month in October 2011 B16 with JP2 will again prove himself a bad pope.
JP2 canonisation is clear proof that V2 is 100% catholic. It’s Gods stamp of approval. TCs are not the remnant, but people who disobey the Holy Father. TCs have replaced God with man because as you say, if it was not for the men of tradition, the church would not exist. The novusO say the church is a reality because it is a divine institution & guided by the Holy Ghost. We are God centred, TCs man centred. I looked up the new bible (google) & found a site that said aliens built pyramids. lol
Quit blaming the Holy Ghost for JP2, try to think more about God than any pope good or bad. A few things about JP2’s Beautification next month, first of all JP2 did away with the Devil’s advocate, there is nobody left to say: Hey! Hold on a minute, what about: Jp2’s heresy on non-Catholics being allowed to receive Holy Communion? Or JP2’s teaching that non-Catholic sects are a means to salvation? JP2 praised Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Hus. Taught that schismatics don’t need to be converted…
I will work my way through your points over days. NovusO say the Holy Ghost NEVER makes a mistake & B16 is a BEST man for Pope. sspx has said that C.Ratzinger has been a thorn on sspx side from the beginning & thus was the worst possible Pope you could elect. Translation, the Holy Ghost elected the wrong/bad Pope! If you reject JP2 as saint then you have to reject St Mary Mackillop(Miracle in V2) also... hmm interesting. LOL
First of all – When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.
B16 & JP2 worshiped with non-Christians – but Jesus said He is the way the truth and the life – and no one comes to the Father except through Me. JP2 & B16 are heretics and traitors to the Catholic Church. And what of all those poor souls who now think there is no need to convert to be saved? Novus Ordo mind rot…
Muslims, Jews (The son of man was one) & Christians believe in the monolithic God. Unless you live in a vacuum, the three major religions cover most of the world. The Pope is working with them to try & bring peace not war. With the help of JP2 we are now on talking terms with these religions. We have split the atom you know. You piss off a religion enough to fire a nuke, its bye bye world.
You have made 13 comments within a matter of a few minutes, mostly defending JP2. Let me respond by defending the Catholic Faith against JP2 and his heresies.
JP2 is perhaps the most heretical pope in the history of the Church: JP2 taught Universal Salvation but the Church teaches otherwise. Pope Gregory X taught ex cathedra, the souls of those who die in mortal sin or with original sin only… immediately descend into Hell, yet to be punished with different punishments. (That is ex cathedra)
Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Sess. 6 ex cathedra: But although Christ died for all, yet not all receive the benefit of His death, but those only to whom the merit of His passion is communicated. (Again, that is ex cathedra). More to come…
You wrote “But although Christ died for all”.. lol! really? Do not tell me u have never heard of the many/all arguments ....lol. Now all is valid... what next...lol.
These cultures have grown over many generations. They had a will to survive & believed in the spiritual world. Look at the Tahitians. Are you gona condemn them because of the way they lived? If we Christians are so blessed by God, how come we had the black plague & Tahitians lived in paradise.
The Catholic Church stands for education, culture and civilization, but Her primary purpose is not to turn illiterate people into literary prodigies, but to teach both literate and illiterate people how to love and serve God and to save their souls.
What did you expect from these cultures, to have built a marble hi alter & organ? They had no one to educate them. You cannot dismiss all pagan practices as being diabolic. JP2 has given recognition to their past. They had developed a method where dance & ritual had become a way of life. Why do u think music is so popular. It’s in our being, programmed into us from our creator.
Jesus said, no one comes to the Father except through Me.- Psalm 95:5 “For all the Gods of the Gentiles are devils…” 1 Cor. 10:20 “But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.” Rome is ‘again’ meeting with these devil worshipers in October 2011. It would be different if Rome was trying to convert them, but Rome is not trying to convert them. Traitors.
JP2 taught that the Holy Ghost is responsible for non-Christian religions, Redemptor Hominis (#6), March 4, 1979: “Does it not sometimes happen that the firm belief of the followers of the non-Christians religions – a belief that is also an effect of the Spirit of truth operating outside the visible confines of the Mystical Body…” JP2 & Vatican II supporters are backstabbing traitors and you’re not going to get away with it. However, mostly I think its stupidity. Novus Ordo mind rot…
JP2 said we can participate with other religions as long as we are on common ground. The Jews believe in the God of Abraham, we believe in the God of Abraham. JP2 is bringing all religions together for 1 Sheppard & flock. He is doing the will of God. Look at some of the converts we have had (Tony Blair). The Holy Ghost wants to bring the religions together. It’s not for me to question it.
JP2 taught complete religious indifference. However Pope Pius IX, in Qui Pluribus (#15), Nov. 9, 1846: said, “Also perverse is that shocking theory that it makes no difference to which religion one belongs, a theory greatly at variance even with reason. By means of this theory, those crafty men remove all distinction between virtue and vice, truth and error, honorable and vile action. They pretend that men can gain eternal salvation by the practice of any religion…”
A rabbi said(About Pope), this is first time in history religion has been used to stop wars, not create them. Look at the so called Catholic times (middle ages). Catholic countries went to war against other Catholic countries. The priests & bishops on both sides must have blessed it. Yeah blessed so fellow baptised Catholics can slaughter each other when Christ preached to turn the other cheek.
Another rabbi Jew said, there would be wars and rumors of war until the end of time. (Deal with it). If all men did the will of God there would be no war. But if some people refuse to do the will of Christ, those who desire to fulfill His will may be compelled to fight and may quite lawfully d so.
Your comment “there would be wars and rumors of war until the end of time. (Deal with it)”.... You are joking right? If you have a nuclear war today, the human race will most probably NOT SURVIVE!!!. Do you understand what E=mc^2 really means? No men of good or bad will, will be fighting anymore because they will be all dead.... sspx seem to live in never never land.
From my own experience, V2 had to happen. The childish way of thinking in the past had to stop. Galileo said the world was round & the Church almost executed him for it. How stupid was that. The church is a LIVING tradition thus is growing. It grows with no rupture in successive Popes which no other religion can claim. We have to trust in the Holy Ghost & let Him educate us (V2).
VII, it should have been called: “The general Acceptance of Tolerance and Mercy as Remedies for Evil.”
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“Homosexuality: the new face of the New Church”.
Newsweek magazine stated that in one of the very few studies based on reliable data – 1,500 interviews made between 1960 and 1985 – psychologist Richard Sipe of Maryland, a former priest, concluded that close to 20 percent of the 57,000 Catholic priests in the USA were homosexual, and half of them were sexual active. Now 40 percent...
Err... you obviously do not know about all the sspx scandals do you?.lol Sspx teaching is on the borderline of homosexuality. sspx preach it’s forbidden (4men) to go to the beach with a woman, but ok with men! Yikes.
JP2 was in contact with St Lucy & put all his energy in doing the will of our Lady to stop Russia so fire would not fall from the sky (WW3). Many world leaders said JP2 was instrumental in the dismantling of Russia which the public do not know. JP2 devoted his life to it. Look how burnt out he was. He gave it his all & it showed. The Holy Ghost selected a polish Pope to tackle Russia. Coincidence??? !!!!///
JP2 teaches that Muslims and Catholics have the same God. JP2’s mass in 2002 in Mexico City where he incorporated the customs of the demonic Aztec culture. Assisi I & II which has been condemned by previous popes. JP2 taught that the Holy Ghost is responsible for even non-Christian religions. JP2 taught Universal Salvation that all men will be saved, but not that nasty SSPX and all the rest of them Traditionalists who just believe what God said and remember the First Commandment. Want more?
JP2 never said this (Communion to non Catholics). (Can. 844). More sspx manipulation. My local Priest has said he will refuse communion to local government member because he is openly pro-abortion. I went to a sspx funeral, & my non-practicing divorced living in sin acquaintances received communion from the sspx priest. Sspx did nothing to stop it.
The corrupt and traitorous Novus Ordo Canon Law 844.3 says, “Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick to members of the eastern Churches not in full communion with the Catholic Church…” These people are schismatic and heretics and Catholics are not allowed by them, to receive Communion at their churches. But don’t hang out with those SSPX’ers who believe in the true Catholic faith?
Looked at vid (Skipped most of it). Saw the ordinary & extraordinary (hi) form of mass. The low mass is not shown, is that because it’s an apostasy?. NovusO has had all three masses for the last 40 years. Saints have said that we must be more Christ like, so ordinary form of mass is a closer representation of the 1st mass by Christ (Pics of last supper etc..), unless you believe that the apostles had a marble hi alter & organ in the house! lol
The traditional Mass was the low Mass. However I admit that Novus Ordo’s seem to be friendlier during their mass (small m). It’s easy to see in the video that the traditional priest gives his ‘all’ to offering-up to God the sacrifice of the Mass; we save our kisy kisy for coffee and donuts. The Novus Ordo problem is, their priests have lost the idea of entering into the Holy of Holies to offer up sacrifice to God. They want to be therapists instead of priests. Remember the First Commandment.
Im not going to believe you either preist man because i dont believe God made you a priest among men you took a story that is not your own and told it to your members trying to warn them about hell but your also saying of what the church told her what to do and she said she doesnt regret not taking birthcontroll and served as in communion so what i see is you are saying if people dont go by what your church does they go to in hell let us not forget
dgontar might be talking about the time at 1:51 when he smiles after saying, "and the multitude go in that direction". Still, what a stupid comment, dgontar.
Well I don't think God would send that woman to hell "just for" mocking Him (it makes God sound like a schoolyard bully with ego issues). I believe we send ourselves to hell and God constantly knocks at the door of our hearts to rescue us with the graces of conversion and love and not by threats of popping eyeballs and flaking skin.
You are actually preaching a message about Hell and living saintly lives? No wonder you guys got kicked out. All we hear about in our Novus Ordo church is how much God loves us.
@dgontar this man is telling you the truth , hell exicts , its real , its forever , without refering to the bible , 3 examples of people who were shown hell , the children of fatima, don bosco, sister faustina , they said that words could not describe how bad it was , [fact]
EXCELLENT FATHER :)
EternalRest4 2 weeks ago
Again, like I have been saying, sspx cannot fogive mortal sin because they do not have canonical status. so “those who die in mortal sin or with original sin only… immediately descend into Hell”. What I have been saying all along.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
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We see fulfilled the prophetic words of Pope Leo XIII in his prayers to St. Michael: "In the Holy Place Itself, where has been set up the See of the most Blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered" In the past history of the Church, there have been difficult times which should guide us in our perseverance to the true Faith.
Oblationem 5 months ago
2.
Between the death of Pope Clement IV (11/29/1268) and the election of Pope Gregory X (9/1/1271). A vacancy of the Apostolic See for three years. Other vacancies also occurred in various dioceses throughout the world. In order to provide shepherds for the faithful, bishops were consecrated to fill these vacant Sees. The most important aspect of this historical precedent is that Pope Gregory X affirmed the lawfulness of the consecrations, which took place without the usual papal mandate.
Oblationem 5 months ago
3.
Canon Law describes the three types of jurisdiction: ordinary, delegated, and supplied. The traditional clergy today receive supplied jurisdiction at the moment of their administration of the Sacraments. And the Church for the spiritual benefit of the faithful provides this. Generous and beneficent is our Holy Mother the Church.
Oblationem 5 months ago
4.
According to Canon 2261: "The faithful can for any just cause ask for Sacraments or sacramentals of one who is excommunicated, especially if there is no one else to give them." And the Novus Ordo can’t give what they don’t have. A well-known principle of sacramental theology is" the Sacraments are for men (Sacramenta propter homines).
Oblationem 5 months ago
5.
The confusion on the part of some lay "theologians" is the issue of "canonical mission." They erroneously hold that unless a bishop or a priest has a "canonical mission," he cannot lawfully administer the Sacraments. Their problem is their lack of understanding of the distinction between orders and jurisdiction.
In The Sacred Canons by Rev. John A. Abbo, S.T.L., J.C.D. and Rev. Jerome D. Hannan, A.M., LL.B., S.T.D., J.C.D. we read:
Oblationem 5 months ago
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The hierarchy of orders is the power which of its nature directly promotes the sanctification and the salvation of the faithful through public worship, especially through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and the administration of the sacraments. The hierarchy of jurisdiction is the power of governing the faithful in order that they may be brought to eternal life.
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
“The confusion on the part of some lay "theologians"”. You hit the nail on the head. That is why I get all my information directly from the Roman Catholic Church & its bishops that are in communion with Rome, not some cult that is trying to justify its actions for disobeying the Holy Father.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
What do you think I’ve been quoting, Wall-mart? I’ve quoted Scripture, Canon Law, past Sainted Popes and Saints. I have showed you where these modern popes have gone against Christ & Scripture, history, traditions of the Church and Canon law. When a pope goes against these things, ‘you’ have a duty to resist. One has only to read the secular news to see the results of these modern popes.
Don’t judge them, God will do that; just use your common sense.
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
“What do you think I’ve been quoting, Wall-mart”... Well actually yes. Lol!. I am intrigued in how you twist scripture & canon law to suit your own arguments.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
"Have I Then Become Your Enemy Because I Tell You the Truth?"
Galatians 4:16
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
The current elected Pope Benedict xiv that the Holy Ghost selected says the NovusO Mass is valid. The sacraments are valid in the Roman Catholic Church & all three of its Masses ordinary, extraordinary (Low & High) are valid also, to think otherwise is absurd.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
These past two popes were not even ‘crowned’ with a papal tiara; they just want to be a bishop among bishops, to destroy the Papacy that you try to defend. They want to remove everything Catholic that divides everyone. The problem they have is, some of still want to follow Christ and ‘be’ Catholic.
Novus Ordo priests today don’t even take vows, are installed to preside.
At the next election of a pope look for them to discharge the pope from being a Bishop of Rome to elsewhere.
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
NovusO Catholics cannot even believe what you just said. The current Pope is valid & was selected by the Holy Ghost. We trust the Holy Ghost.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
The manager at McDonalds is also valid but he is killing you with his valid grease, just as the Novus Ordo has and is murdering souls with Vatican II and its new sacraments. Mass attendance down 50 percent since VII, adult converts from 27 percent down to 12 percent, baptisms down to 2 percent. I can go on-and-on. The good thing is, the old liberal Catholics are dying off and are not being replaced. People are waking-up and they want the real Traditional Catholic Latin Mass and valid Orders.
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
The NovusO is growing again. Vocations are on the rise & the fruits of Vatican 2 are happening. What is so beautiful about Vatican 2 is that the vocations happen without them being forced down your throat. At sspx, vocations are forced down your throat. An sspx priest said that if you do not follow your vocation as a priest, you will burn in hell when you die, regardless of what good you do... interesting.
MegaCaseMaster 4 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
Novus Ordo vocations are way down, so New Order radical clergy will try to find anything to plug the hole: first married presbyters, then married laypeople, then priestesses. Most of these options have already been unofficially implemented. So yes, the fruits of Vatican II are happening.
Oblationem 4 months ago
@Oblationem
We have a validly elected Pope called Pope Benedict xiv that the Holy Ghost selected. Lefebvre disobeyed a direct order from a validly elected Pope JP2 not to consecrate the 4 bishops. It’s very simple to see that Lefebvre’s act would automatically ex-communication him by canon law, which it did. Lefebvre died in the state of ex-communication. Shocking when you think about it.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
Archbishop Lefebvre really believed that he was acting out of necessity. If he was indeed correct in his belief that it was really necessary to consecrate the bishops, then he would not be subject to any penalty whatever (can. 1324.4). If he was in error and even if he was culpably in error in believing that it was necessary to consecrate bishops without a mandate from the Pope, then he still would not incur any automatic (latae sententice) penalty (can. 1324.3).
Oblationem 5 months ago
Correction:
Assisi III takes place in October 2011, and the Beautification of JP2 takes place in May 2012.
Oblationem 5 months ago
Well I do not want to go to hell so what this Priest says makes total sense.
Melkesideck2000 1 year ago
Acts 2:38, But Peter said to them: Do penance, and be Baptized every one of you..." I think that verse would include everyone, including infants and children of all ages. Peter did not say to leave your infants at home and wait until they are older.
Oblationem 1 year ago
what your chruch tried to do when Martin Luther told the church members the truthb about what the bible contains in german and other languages. Your church then said if you dont pay tithing you are condemned to hell. You bastards!
yumyumyumyum100 2 years ago
Luther was a Catholic Augustinian monk heretic, who was excommunicated. He was the originator of the false man-made doctrine of Sola Scriptura. There is only one Bible and it is a Catholic Book. Luther claimed his own authority by 'twisting' Holy Scripture in a futile attempt to justify himself.
Oblationem 1 year ago 4
Rome says that sspx has no canonical status thus its confessions & marriages are not valid. This means that if you are in mortal sin, & confess to a sspx priest, you will still be in mortal sin.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
We traditionalists will continue to live the Faith of our fathers regardless of what Rome has to say. It is not traditionalists who have left the faith. Today, Rome has no credibility and has lost its moral compass. However if Rome would come back to the faith there would not be a problem with obedience to Rome.
Oblationem 5 months ago
Regardless of what traditionalists thinks or sspx thinks, if you commit a mortal sin & go to a sspx priest for confession, he cannot forgive your sin. This is what the Roman Catholic Church teaches because sspx has no canonical status. Why someone would want to stay in mortal sin by going to confession at sspx is something I cannot understand, especially after hearing this sermon about hell.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
Today, It doesn't matter what Rome thinks. It matters what Tradition, Dogma and Canon Law has to say. You don't understand because you don't want to understand, perhaps you are comfortable living a Novus Ordo life style?. St. Athanasius had no canonical status, so what? St. Athanasius akin to today's traditionalists will continue to live the Catholic Faith if you like it or not...
Oblationem 5 months ago
Archbishop Lefebvre really believed that he was acting out of necessity. If he was indeed correct in his belief that it was really necessary to consecrate the bishops, then he would not be subject to any penalty whatever (can. 1324.4). If he was in error and even if he was culpably in error in believing that it was necessary to consecrate bishops without a mandate from the Pope, then he still would not incur any automatic (latae sententice) penalty (can. 1324.3).
Oblationem 5 months ago
All religions believe they are correct & Lefebvre is the same, that’s why the Pope said that Lefebvre did not understand the Catholic faith. The church is divine & guided by the Holy Ghost. The last 5 Popes have been pro vatican 2. Sspx has no apostolic succession & no canonical status thus mortal sin cannot be forgiven by a sspx priest. The NovusO teaches that a soul is in grave danger if it’s in the state of mortal sin. Why sspx’rs want to stay in mortal sin is beyond me.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
Traditionalists believe as the Church has always taught and have introduced nothing new.
Traditionalists believe that the Novus Ordos are the ones in jeopardy of mortal sin as traditionalists believe, worship and follow all the Church has taught for 2,000 yrs. Traditionalists are not the ones who have changed the faith and who’s morals are in question. Yesterday Ireland has withdrawn their ambassador from Rome. Don’t you wonder why? Yes, unfortunately it is beyond you.
Oblationem 5 months ago
Atheists believe God does not exist; some people believe abortion is ok; sspx believe they can forgive mortal sins. Rome however says God exist, abortion is wrong & sspx cannot forgive mortal sins because sspx does not have canonical status. What you or I or traditionalist believe is irrelevant; it is what the Apostolic Authority (Rome) teaches. Traditionalists believe that canonical status is not important. This is unfortunately new introduced by TCs.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMa
Again, traditionalists have introduced nothing new, and what we believe is relevant because what we believe is what the Church has always and everywhere taught. Surely you don’t want the SSPX and all traditionalists to be just like the new church? Who would ‘stand firm and hold to the traditions which we were taught? Because the Church in a state of emergency canonical status is granted, like it or not. Look it up. Everything you got, you got from us. The new church is in apostasy.
Oblationem 5 months ago
Rome is a continuous living tradition. The official papal statement is that there has been no rupture from tradition. Rome has not given a state of emergency & granted canonical status. That is sspx’s opinion, which they have no apostolic authority to say so. Rome has said that sspx cannot minister until the canonical status is resolved. You have introduced something new because TCs have said that Rome is irrelevant & Rome is in apostasy. This is totally new & not catholic.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
Living tradition? Fat chance. What about the Arian hearsay or today’s hearsay? B16 wrote a book in which he denies Catholic doctrine and yet Catholics are suppose to care if he says the SSPX has no canonical status because they won’t quit believing and practicing the faith as Catholics always have. SSPX sacraments are valid because of matter, form and intention regardless of what those in apostasy say. St. Athanasius was Catholic wasn’t he?
Oblationem 5 months ago
The Holy Ghost has a choice of 500+ priests +4 bishops of sspx that he could have raised to Pope.
The Holy Ghost instead chose 5 successive V2 Popes. Is sspx saying the Holy Ghost got it wrong 5 times in a row?
Rome says sspx mass is valid. However Rome says confession & marriages is not because sspx does not have canonical status. This means when a couple get married in sspx & has sex, it’s a mortal sin. Communion after this act is now a sacrilege.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
1. The Holy Ghost never gets it wrong; He gives man free will to screw up on his own.
2. It’s nice that Rome says the SSPX Mass is valid, and I suppose? it’s nice that Rome says Protestant marriage is valid, but not SSPX? Get real wake up! When SSPX’ers have sex it is not a mortal sin, it’s heavenly delight and we raise all our children as Traditional Catholics as our forefathers have done. Get over it...
Oblationem 5 months ago
1. Ratzinger was pro-v2, & as B16, is still pro-V2. Did the Holy Ghost & sspx expect a different outcome with B16?
2. Rome says a protestant married in a protestant church is valid. An atheist married in a civil law is valid. A Catholic is under catholic law, thus he needs church & priest in full communion with canonical status. Sspx’r are catholic thus are under catholic law. The sspx priest does not have canonical status thus the marriages are not valid & the children are well.... “b”
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
1. Another way to say it is: Card. Ratzinger was under suspicion of heresy during VII, remember he was the one who wore a suit to Vatican II - and after becoming pope wrote a book to prove he is a heretic. Same outcome expected.
2. All Traditionalists have canonical status because the (Church supplies) in a state of emergency. Are you trying to say the Church is not in emergency? The “Law of Logical Argument” is: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. Study up.
Oblationem 5 months ago
1. The Holy Ghost has to take responsibility for choosing B16 as Pope. He could have chosen sspx to be pope & bring back the so called tradition. What is going on here?
2. Rome has not given you canonical status. You are under catholic law & cannot create fantasies that you have supplied jurisdiction.
3. V2 have martyrs that have given their lives for the novus ordo. We have the current JP2 beatification. V2 has fruits. sspx have no fruits & no saints & no martyrs.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
1. Don’t blame the Holy Ghost for choosing B16, men with free will did that.
2. The Church has had over 40 anti popes or anti Christ’s in its history, look it up – How do you think the Church survived? It survived with (Church Supplied Jurisdiction).
3. Even Protestants have martyrs for Christ even though they don’t follow the True Faith. In October JP2’s beatification will prove that the Novus Ordo is against the Church.
4. I think you are spitting into the wind of Church dogma and history…
Oblationem 5 months ago
Sspx have replaced God with man. NovusO Catholics cannot even imagine an invalid Pope because Christ promised that he would be behind ALL successors of St Peter. If that is ever broken, the living tradition is broken, & no amount of dodgy TC canon law manipulation can correct it. TCs are humanists. They do not believe the church is divine. JP2s beatification will seal V2 as authentically Catholic.
I am intrigued with TCs bizarre twisted interpretation of Catholic dogma & history.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
The Novus Ordo has replaced God with man and I can prove it, see my youtube video “New Religion New Mass – Traditional Catholic Latin Mass”. Again, JP2’s beautification will prove the Novus Ordo is false. I noticed you don’t ask me to provide examples of JP2 & B16’s heresy, are you afraid? Traditionalists are the remnant spoke about in scripture, look it up. While you’re at it, look at Canon Law and Church history about Supplied Jurisdiction., and Google antichrist, It’s part of Church history.
Oblationem 5 months ago
PS:
Jesus said, the gates of Hell would not prevail against the “Church” not any one pope. Matt: 16:18. Good popes and bad popes come and go but the Church still stands thanks sometimes to the main body of the Church, and today thanks to the remnant, the traditionalists who hold to what the Church has always and everywhere taught. All the Dogma and all the Traditions. Next month in October 2011 B16 with JP2 will again prove himself a bad pope.
Oblationem 5 months ago
JP2 canonisation is clear proof that V2 is 100% catholic. It’s Gods stamp of approval. TCs are not the remnant, but people who disobey the Holy Father. TCs have replaced God with man because as you say, if it was not for the men of tradition, the church would not exist. The novusO say the church is a reality because it is a divine institution & guided by the Holy Ghost. We are God centred, TCs man centred. I looked up the new bible (google) & found a site that said aliens built pyramids. lol
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
Quit blaming the Holy Ghost for JP2, try to think more about God than any pope good or bad. A few things about JP2’s Beautification next month, first of all JP2 did away with the Devil’s advocate, there is nobody left to say: Hey! Hold on a minute, what about: Jp2’s heresy on non-Catholics being allowed to receive Holy Communion? Or JP2’s teaching that non-Catholic sects are a means to salvation? JP2 praised Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Hus. Taught that schismatics don’t need to be converted…
Oblationem 5 months ago
I will work my way through your points over days. NovusO say the Holy Ghost NEVER makes a mistake & B16 is a BEST man for Pope. sspx has said that C.Ratzinger has been a thorn on sspx side from the beginning & thus was the worst possible Pope you could elect. Translation, the Holy Ghost elected the wrong/bad Pope! If you reject JP2 as saint then you have to reject St Mary Mackillop(Miracle in V2) also... hmm interesting. LOL
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
First of all – When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.
B16 & JP2 worshiped with non-Christians – but Jesus said He is the way the truth and the life – and no one comes to the Father except through Me. JP2 & B16 are heretics and traitors to the Catholic Church. And what of all those poor souls who now think there is no need to convert to be saved? Novus Ordo mind rot…
Oblationem 5 months ago
Muslims, Jews (The son of man was one) & Christians believe in the monolithic God. Unless you live in a vacuum, the three major religions cover most of the world. The Pope is working with them to try & bring peace not war. With the help of JP2 we are now on talking terms with these religions. We have split the atom you know. You piss off a religion enough to fire a nuke, its bye bye world.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
You have made 13 comments within a matter of a few minutes, mostly defending JP2. Let me respond by defending the Catholic Faith against JP2 and his heresies.
JP2 is perhaps the most heretical pope in the history of the Church: JP2 taught Universal Salvation but the Church teaches otherwise. Pope Gregory X taught ex cathedra, the souls of those who die in mortal sin or with original sin only… immediately descend into Hell, yet to be punished with different punishments. (That is ex cathedra)
Oblationem 5 months ago
Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Sess. 6 ex cathedra: But although Christ died for all, yet not all receive the benefit of His death, but those only to whom the merit of His passion is communicated. (Again, that is ex cathedra). More to come…
Oblationem 5 months ago
You wrote “But although Christ died for all”.. lol! really? Do not tell me u have never heard of the many/all arguments ....lol. Now all is valid... what next...lol.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
That's right, Christ died for all, but not all receive the benefit of His death. However, 'many' do...
Oblationem 5 months ago
These cultures have grown over many generations. They had a will to survive & believed in the spiritual world. Look at the Tahitians. Are you gona condemn them because of the way they lived? If we Christians are so blessed by God, how come we had the black plague & Tahitians lived in paradise.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
Living without God is not living in paradise.
The Catholic Church stands for education, culture and civilization, but Her primary purpose is not to turn illiterate people into literary prodigies, but to teach both literate and illiterate people how to love and serve God and to save their souls.
Oblationem 5 months ago
What did you expect from these cultures, to have built a marble hi alter & organ? They had no one to educate them. You cannot dismiss all pagan practices as being diabolic. JP2 has given recognition to their past. They had developed a method where dance & ritual had become a way of life. Why do u think music is so popular. It’s in our being, programmed into us from our creator.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
Jesus said, no one comes to the Father except through Me.- Psalm 95:5 “For all the Gods of the Gentiles are devils…” 1 Cor. 10:20 “But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.” Rome is ‘again’ meeting with these devil worshipers in October 2011. It would be different if Rome was trying to convert them, but Rome is not trying to convert them. Traitors.
Oblationem 5 months ago
JP2 taught that the Holy Ghost is responsible for non-Christian religions, Redemptor Hominis (#6), March 4, 1979: “Does it not sometimes happen that the firm belief of the followers of the non-Christians religions – a belief that is also an effect of the Spirit of truth operating outside the visible confines of the Mystical Body…” JP2 & Vatican II supporters are backstabbing traitors and you’re not going to get away with it. However, mostly I think its stupidity. Novus Ordo mind rot…
Oblationem 5 months ago
JP2 said we can participate with other religions as long as we are on common ground. The Jews believe in the God of Abraham, we believe in the God of Abraham. JP2 is bringing all religions together for 1 Sheppard & flock. He is doing the will of God. Look at some of the converts we have had (Tony Blair). The Holy Ghost wants to bring the religions together. It’s not for me to question it.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
JP2 taught complete religious indifference. However Pope Pius IX, in Qui Pluribus (#15), Nov. 9, 1846: said, “Also perverse is that shocking theory that it makes no difference to which religion one belongs, a theory greatly at variance even with reason. By means of this theory, those crafty men remove all distinction between virtue and vice, truth and error, honorable and vile action. They pretend that men can gain eternal salvation by the practice of any religion…”
Oblationem 5 months ago
A rabbi said(About Pope), this is first time in history religion has been used to stop wars, not create them. Look at the so called Catholic times (middle ages). Catholic countries went to war against other Catholic countries. The priests & bishops on both sides must have blessed it. Yeah blessed so fellow baptised Catholics can slaughter each other when Christ preached to turn the other cheek.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
Another rabbi Jew said, there would be wars and rumors of war until the end of time. (Deal with it). If all men did the will of God there would be no war. But if some people refuse to do the will of Christ, those who desire to fulfill His will may be compelled to fight and may quite lawfully d so.
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
Your comment “there would be wars and rumors of war until the end of time. (Deal with it)”.... You are joking right? If you have a nuclear war today, the human race will most probably NOT SURVIVE!!!. Do you understand what E=mc^2 really means? No men of good or bad will, will be fighting anymore because they will be all dead.... sspx seem to live in never never land.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
That’s right, Jesus said, there would be wars and rumors of war until the end of time.
Yes, and one day we will ‘all’ be dead – you better deal with it now before you go to never-never-land.
Oblationem 5 months ago
From my own experience, V2 had to happen. The childish way of thinking in the past had to stop. Galileo said the world was round & the Church almost executed him for it. How stupid was that. The church is a LIVING tradition thus is growing. It grows with no rupture in successive Popes which no other religion can claim. We have to trust in the Holy Ghost & let Him educate us (V2).
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
VII, it should have been called: “The general Acceptance of Tolerance and Mercy as Remedies for Evil.”
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“Homosexuality: the new face of the New Church”.
Newsweek magazine stated that in one of the very few studies based on reliable data – 1,500 interviews made between 1960 and 1985 – psychologist Richard Sipe of Maryland, a former priest, concluded that close to 20 percent of the 57,000 Catholic priests in the USA were homosexual, and half of them were sexual active. Now 40 percent...
Oblationem 5 months ago
@Oblationem
Err... you obviously do not know about all the sspx scandals do you?.lol Sspx teaching is on the borderline of homosexuality. sspx preach it’s forbidden (4men) to go to the beach with a woman, but ok with men! Yikes.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
I think you have your head up your rectum, cite your references.
The SSPX has had a few scandals that I know about, however nothing on the scale of the Novus Ordo scandals that are on-going.
Oblationem 5 months ago
JP2 was in contact with St Lucy & put all his energy in doing the will of our Lady to stop Russia so fire would not fall from the sky (WW3). Many world leaders said JP2 was instrumental in the dismantling of Russia which the public do not know. JP2 devoted his life to it. Look how burnt out he was. He gave it his all & it showed. The Holy Ghost selected a polish Pope to tackle Russia. Coincidence??? !!!!///
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
I made a very short two minute video to answer this question, see my youtube video:
Did John Paul II meet with Sr. Lucia?
Oblationem 5 months ago
JP2 teaches that Muslims and Catholics have the same God. JP2’s mass in 2002 in Mexico City where he incorporated the customs of the demonic Aztec culture. Assisi I & II which has been condemned by previous popes. JP2 taught that the Holy Ghost is responsible for even non-Christian religions. JP2 taught Universal Salvation that all men will be saved, but not that nasty SSPX and all the rest of them Traditionalists who just believe what God said and remember the First Commandment. Want more?
Oblationem 5 months ago
JP2 never said this (Communion to non Catholics). (Can. 844). More sspx manipulation. My local Priest has said he will refuse communion to local government member because he is openly pro-abortion. I went to a sspx funeral, & my non-practicing divorced living in sin acquaintances received communion from the sspx priest. Sspx did nothing to stop it.
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
@MegaCaseMaster
The corrupt and traitorous Novus Ordo Canon Law 844.3 says, “Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick to members of the eastern Churches not in full communion with the Catholic Church…” These people are schismatic and heretics and Catholics are not allowed by them, to receive Communion at their churches. But don’t hang out with those SSPX’ers who believe in the true Catholic faith?
Oblationem 5 months ago
Looked at vid (Skipped most of it). Saw the ordinary & extraordinary (hi) form of mass. The low mass is not shown, is that because it’s an apostasy?. NovusO has had all three masses for the last 40 years. Saints have said that we must be more Christ like, so ordinary form of mass is a closer representation of the 1st mass by Christ (Pics of last supper etc..), unless you believe that the apostles had a marble hi alter & organ in the house! lol
MegaCaseMaster 5 months ago
The traditional Mass was the low Mass. However I admit that Novus Ordo’s seem to be friendlier during their mass (small m). It’s easy to see in the video that the traditional priest gives his ‘all’ to offering-up to God the sacrifice of the Mass; we save our kisy kisy for coffee and donuts. The Novus Ordo problem is, their priests have lost the idea of entering into the Holy of Holies to offer up sacrifice to God. They want to be therapists instead of priests. Remember the First Commandment.
Oblationem 5 months ago
Correction:
Assisi III takes place in October 2011, and the Beautification of JP2 takes place in May 2012.
Oblationem 5 months ago
Im not going to believe you either preist man because i dont believe God made you a priest among men you took a story that is not your own and told it to your members trying to warn them about hell but your also saying of what the church told her what to do and she said she doesnt regret not taking birthcontroll and served as in communion so what i see is you are saying if people dont go by what your church does they go to in hell let us not forget
yumyumyumyum100 2 years ago
I don't think he's smiling in the sense of finding pleasure in the statement but rather an expression of grim acknowledgement of a sad truth.
markstevens36 2 years ago
dgontar might be talking about the time at 1:51 when he smiles after saying, "and the multitude go in that direction". Still, what a stupid comment, dgontar.
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
More Priest Should talk about Hell, Way to go Saint Pauis X Society.
JKB449 3 years ago 5
Well I don't think God would send that woman to hell "just for" mocking Him (it makes God sound like a schoolyard bully with ego issues). I believe we send ourselves to hell and God constantly knocks at the door of our hearts to rescue us with the graces of conversion and love and not by threats of popping eyeballs and flaking skin.
blink56k 3 years ago
i believe dgontar has not seen the entire video....
kristinebabia 3 years ago
You are actually preaching a message about Hell and living saintly lives? No wonder you guys got kicked out. All we hear about in our Novus Ordo church is how much God loves us.
Isn't that sad?
mm3861 3 years ago
SSPX and other Tradtional Faithful Priest speak the truth. To many Catholics are getting Married outside the Church.
Jason Burdette
JKB449 2 years ago
Let's hope you're right, for if he is not a lunatic then I don't suppose God will be very pleased with you for suggesting that he is.
coldcallinguk 3 years ago
Frightening in its stark reality.
Billyothon 4 years ago 3
Incipit Satan!
okczeeguy666 4 years ago
This man is a lunatic.
dgontar 4 years ago
Instead of calling this good priest a lunatic, why don't you say why you disagree and give your reasons backed-up with good references?
Oblationem 4 years ago 2
@Oblationem
I was at SSPX 40 Anniversary
God Bless You
whitesox2005ify 1 year ago
@whitesox2005ify
I also was there.
Oblationem 1 year ago
@dgontar this man is telling you the truth , hell exicts , its real , its forever , without refering to the bible , 3 examples of people who were shown hell , the children of fatima, don bosco, sister faustina , they said that words could not describe how bad it was , [fact]
mufc1970ok 1 year ago
@dgontar That is, of course, precisely what Satan wants you to believe.
Jitpring 1 year ago
eternal heaven for me ..thank you :)
cyndierela 4 years ago