smexyg0th. A good friend of mine had the rx8 gt 6 spd as well. I got to ride in it and drive...and my conclusion was that it was absolutely gutless, mostly due to hqving 0 torque. I just having a hard time respecting a car that my car put BUS lengths on, several times.
@texarmageddon you keep repeating urself about weight n shit, as i said, when it comes to uncontrolled power output, muscle has the advantage.. Acceleration doesn't only depends on power u know..
@Texarmageddon u said there's no 6 speed GT except the 2011 which proves u dnt know shit about RX8s, n 4 ur info, RX8 has 5 versions, RX8 auto, sport, gt, R3, track theyr all different from each other.. I customized 8 cars so far including RX8, mustang, 350Z and challenger, and I know all there is to know about all of these unlike u.. Yea I know Google helps but really?.. Book Mazda estimates ur quoting?.. I gave u real track numbers so u can suck ur dick if u dnt wanna believe it..
I don't underestimate the V8 mustang, I actually like them and admire them, I have a 68 charger with a V8 and I love it, but I just hate how your too stubborn to see it; I gave you my numbers on my stock RX8, give me your magic numbers; real test, not book or estimates... and tell me how much you payed.
please don't comment if your a little kid who is just pissed that a tiny 1.3L engine beat the hell of his precious mustang.. Rotary is better than piston.. if your an idiot and want me to simplify the picture... a 1.3L piston engine is like driving your grandma's mini van.
@AgentStyles I agree that American cars typically has advantage when it comes to uncontrolled power, and that Japanese got corners, butI have an 05 RX8 GT, 0 mods on the engine, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, top speed 167.6 MPH... its not the "suppose to" or the book speed, I actually tested it in the race track and have records to prove it. Don't talk about something when you don't have all the facts... a 1.3L Rotary engine is beating the hell out of a 3.7L V6 whether you want to believe it or not.
@isthoed I agree, that is nothing to be proud of. I have an 02 GT with bolt ons and no tune and I run high 14s on street tires at 3100 feet. This RX-8 should beat the GT in this video, but in ideal conditions the GT would run around 14 flat and the supercharged RX-8 in the 13s, depending on boost. A 15.5 in a 2005+ GT at anything below 7000 feet is the result of bad/lazy driving.
Not that it would've changed the outcome of the race but the mustang missed second, you can clearly see his rear squat during the launch and try to shift into 2nd at :29sec, then it just coasts til :31sec where you can hear him get back on it, during this span your car pull about 3 cars on the stang.
u use a comp. n u dont even know what does a comp. have?... man we do need to go to school to learn about hard drives, video cards, mother board, n so many things out there about compure...
sumthing was wrong with the mustang unless it was a v6 because the gt's run mid 13's-low14's and the v6 is in the low 15's. but anyway nice rx8 and it runs good to. i never was a fan of the rx8 tho i would prefer the 3rd gen 7 for myself.
I don't know if it was a typo or not, or maybe you have some stuff tuned on the car, but I do know that a stock completly rx8 has 232whp, but idk if you have anything done or not, I may be wrong, but still very nice car, 5/5.
@lilgookiemonsta You're an idiot. It's not a 3.8L. If you actually knew anything about rotaries, you'd know the Rx-8 is the 1.3L which is a 2rotor, when they banned rotaries from Le Mans, was because of the 787B, which uses a 4rotor and is equivalent to over 3.5L. You can't compare rotary engines to piston standards, they're 2 totally different engines.
@lilgookiemonsta A 2ROTOR (13b) Rotary engine is a 654cc per rotor (2x654cc) = 1.3L. It is in fact a 1.3L. Again, you cannot compare a piston engine to a rotary engine as a rotary engine works totally different than a piston engine. Now that you have been slightly educated with the rotary engine, go listen to the beautiful sounds of the a 4rotor (R26B) which was the engine used in the 787B, the car that destroyed the '91 Le mans.
@iRx8 "In a rotary engine, displacement is a bit trickier. Each rotor has three faces, or working chambers, and there are two rotors in a 13B engine. All six chambers have a displacement of 0.654 liters, but it takes three revolutions of the output shaft to bring all those chambers through a full cycle. Were it to be rated by the same method as a piston engine (chamber displacement times number of chambers), it would be called a 3.9 liter." Stop being a fanboi.
@lilgookiemonsta The key for comparing the displacement between the 4-cycle engine and the rotary engine is in studying the degrees of rotation for a thermodynamic cycle to occur. For a 4-cycle engine to complete every thermodynamic cycle, the engine must rotate 720° or two complete revolutions of the crankshaft. The rotary engine is different. The engine rotor rotates at 1/3 the speed of the crankshaft. On two rotor engines, front and rear rotors are 180° offset from each other.
@lilgookiemonsta Displacement is the amount of volume swept which will be combusted. That means moving the crankshaft (but how many revolutions is where people mistake it). It has everything to do with revolutions as a point of reference. Do you double count a 2 stroke motor? I don't think so, Liters is liters and displacement is displacement. It makes no sense for that type of comparison, as you cannot compare a piston engine to the same way you're comparing the rotary engine.
yeah thats kool... so tell me what is a rotary engine? how do they work? because im a v8 man and know all about them, but i know noyhind about rotary engines???
yeah thats kool... so tell me what is a rotary engine? how do they work? because im a v8 man and know all about them, but i know nothing about rotary engines???
@lilgookiemonsta You're telling him to stop being a fanboi? How about you stop being ignorant.
You clearly do not understand how displacement works or how an engine works in general. You're probably just some little kid who got pissed off because his precious rustang was beaten by a 1.3L. Yeah, it took Ford over 50 years just to get the mustang to have a decent amount of horsepower in their v6 and v8s... but still the Japanese can make a more power 4banger than most American V8's.
@SatanSlave6 I could care less that the Rustang lost. It's just the import lovers hate hearing that they're wrong. I'll quote it again so you guys can read it. "Were it [1.3L rotary] to be rated by the SAME method as a piston engine (chamber displacement times number of chambers), it would be called a 3.9 liter." YOU MAD, BRO? I can understand your anger. I'd be mad if I couldn't use the "my hp/liter is better than yours" excuse.
@lilgookiemonsta You're obviously a troll... You know your wrong because you keep avoiding the answer that irx8 said like 5 times and just keep saying that it's a 3.9L with no valid proof just some blog written by a nao named twat ... rotarys have been out for like 45 years, are you really going to question the engineers who created it when it's a 1.3... and saying you mad bro? what r u like 11?
@SeventySev7n A piston engine total displacement is the sum of all the cylider displacments, but exactly HALF of those do any work on any given revolution. A rotary engine displacement is the individual "cylinder" displacment times 2 (two rotors).
@SeventySev7n Each chamber has a 654cc displacment and there are three chambers per rotor, but it takes three rotations of the eccentric shaft for all three chambers to complete a full cycle...which means that there is one complete cycle per revolution for each rotor. In other words, all the displacement is used on every rotation, whereas a piston engine only works half as much for the rated displacment.
@SeventySev7n a 1.3L rotary w/ 6 speed standard delivers about 236 according to my last dyno run on my 05 RX8 (0 mods on engine and added weight from sound system), thats more than the 350Z's 3.5L V6 which delivers about 229 according to my friend's 2006 350Z GT dyno run.. get your facts right before speaking.
@SatanSlave6 dont hate on other peoples cars, i agree that mustangs have been underpowered for a long time (excluding 99,01,03, and 04 cobras) until 2005 when they made decent power. Most of the 4bangers that make more power than older mustangs are Evo's and STI's, which are expensive. Ford could of made a powerful mustang long ago by making superchargers standard on mustangs, but they wanted to keep it affordable
@iRx8 The rotary is in fact totally different than a piston engine. the Wankel rotary engine is more efficient, lighter, and has better acceleration, which makes it a perfect for such a light weight car like the RX8. A well tuned RX8 will beat a mustang in a drag any time, any day.
@Texarmageddon The RX8 have 2 versions, a 1.3L 173 Horse power Automatic, and a 1.3L 236 Horse power 6 speed standard.. the 6 speed GT with leather weights about 3200l.b., which is about the same as the edge stang... there's no way an 6 speed RX8 would loose to a dumb car like that unless the driver is a dumb fuck who missed all their gears.. it was probably an automatic one your talking about.. get your facts right... not off a forum either.
@smexyg0th 6 Speed gt? Few things... The only 6 speed gt is.. the 2011 GT. you're already starting to lose this. I don't know why you think a 6 speed is so great, but for a car that weighs VERY SIMILAR to a new edge stang, has no chance. We call that power to weight mate. The only way a New edge gt would lose is if he missed all his gears. Quit being a nutswinger... RX-8 make touring and track cars, but are far from decent on a drag strip. Everyone knows this.
@Texarmageddon ur obviously an idiot, I bet u don't even know what GT refers to.. GT is grand touring, n u bet ur ass RX8 has a grand touring version, AKA GT, since 2004..and the 6 speed GT is way different from the automatic.. 6 speed red lines at 9000 RPMS n if I have to explain what RPMS help with than ur def a dumb fuck.. I customize cars for living, n u probably just a guy tht has chrome big ass wheels n big subs n think ur so cool cuz u drive fast.. don't argue when u dnt know shit.
@smexyg0th Dude, you don't work on cars for a living. Quit pretending. you can't even get Hp estimations right. You say there are two different versions, but there aren't. Unless this was a european thing. How hard is it to understand a car that weighs over 3000lbs makes 230hp (Rnd) and 190tq(Rnd)Is clearly going to lost to the car that is making 260hp and 300tq in a 3200lb vehicle. Power to weight is clearly written here. Can't get better proof.
@Texarmageddon I customize cars for living, I did 13 cars so far including the RX8, and the mustang, just to let you know, there are 5 different versions of the RX8 which are the auto, sport, GT, R3, and track and all of them are quite different from each other.. stop repeating yourself with the power-to-weight ratio shit, I said that when it comes to uncontrolled power, muscles has the advantage, but, power is not the only thing you need for fast acceleration dumb fuck.
@smexyg0th Dude, your RX-8 isn't hitting a 4.8 second 0-60 . Why do i need to call when you can supply a time slip? You don't want to take peoples word for it on a forum why should other people take yours? You haven't supplied an inch of evidence other than your mouth. Mazda themselves rate their cars and post it on their own OFFICIAL website. in rare cases you have under rated cars but considering your year was faced with false claims... you were over rated.
@Texarmageddon Your not worth me uploading shit for you, you can call and check.. your the one whose being stubborn and questioning every single shit.. and I don't know if you know this, but rotaries and all engines for that matter differ from each other, which means my RX8 and my friend's could have 3 HP difference, and same story goes to ur mustang.. Mazda ratings is according to a lap test on a few cars and an average is posted just like gas mileage between 16-23.
@smexyg0th What type of dyno are you using? its pretty simple each person will pick up different ratings.. Anyhow, are you seriously going to make a video going 0-60, but refuse to bring up a timeslip? Are you seriously?Dude, no... don't bother cause it will be BS. Timeslip or shut is all I'm going to say. I always acknowledge the faster car. You said which car is better stock on the strip, and I highly disagree that is all.
@Texarmageddon u have the full right to disagree, but do it respectfully because there's always the possibility that u could be wrong.. acknowledge n then disagree, don't just assume that I'm lying or whatever.. your a stang enthusiast and I'm an RX8 enthusiast, u got ur opinions n I got mine.
@Texarmageddon you said there's no "6 speed GT except the 2011 GT", which is a clear evidence of u don't know shit about RX8s.. RX8 6 speed GT has been in the U.S. market since 2003 dumb fuck.
@Texarmageddon quote your mom, "Your the best mother fucker I've ever had!" .. stop commenting on a video that your precious mustang lost in and leave with whats left of your ignorant dignity.
@Texarmageddon read over the comments, I have my #'s in there, ur not worth writing them again.. n if ur precious stang can get close to them stock wise, then u can talk.. I just don't see why r u so stubborn when ur commenting on a video that the RX8 won n the stang lost.. in a DRAG STRIP.
@smexyg0th #'s? The RX-8 Ran a 14:12 and its supercharged! Motortrend ran a 14.1 with a 1999 Mustang GT. We didn't even have PI heads back then. I tried to ignore your ignorant comment, but clearly you need me to stir the pot. Quote from mazda.. MANUAL TRANS 232HP@8500rpm. Auto Trans 212hp@7500rpm. Motortrend, edmunds, etc. Post the RX-8 at 14.8.. that is foxbody times.*cough* those are exactly 3000lbs. me going to the forum would have helped you out, but clearly even in magazine racing you lost
@Texarmageddon quote from Mazda?! r u fucking kidding me, I know your a noob and that Google helps quite a lot, but I'm giving you real track record on my stock RX8, contact San Antonio race track and request records if your such a dumb fuck... Quote from Bugatti, "Bugatti Veryon is the best car in the world" .. it doesn't make it true, it maybe the fastest and most powerful, but definitely not the best.. stop being a noob.
@smexyg0th When you said GT, I assumed Mustang as hardly anyone refers to the RX8 in trim levels. Some come on Guy. Magazines give you a general area of what times your car can run. If you're good enough you can shorten that time (BARELY). Sounds to me you have just added or subtracted 10 to every known number out there
@Texarmageddon I have no idea why are u so pissed n teased by this, if u bet ur life on it, I'll upload a video by tomorrow of me going 0-60 on a public road in 4.8 seconds so u can shut the fuck up with ur dumb accusations.
The Pettit charger is a nice unit it's just too bad that the torque numbers arent higher, I think for my 8 I will go with a BHR upgraded turbo, they seem to be getting around the same WHP with higher torque... would love to see some times with that kit on youtube....
look at the torque curve you get with the supercharger over the turbo charger. if im not mistaken the super charger holds a flatter curve over the turbo charger. with the flatter curve it should make the 8 easier to drive.
I think the rx8 is still faster... that on put down like 307 to the wheels... both drivers were not great... GT was horrible though...rx8 is lighter though...
yeah and the RX8 had a darker red though, rims were probably shinier though, a fly hit the mustang though, and the seats are small in the rx8 though...
The Mustang driver failed miserably. I'm 3/3 watching these drag races (intentionally looking for mismatches, knowing I'd find 100% amateur video) and the car with the steep advantage lost. I'll stick to watching the professionals drive and test these cars tyvm. This was just stupid, no offense to whoever recorded or uploaded it btw.
Oh, so saying that uploading the video is "just stupid" but ending with "no offense" is just fine? No, that's a scapegoat, and the person is an asshole for saying it. Would you defend him if he said "You're mother is a bitch, no offense though"?
Again, you're an ass. I was obviously talking about the race. The race was stupid. What does that have to do with who recorded or uploaded it? Exactly.
The v8 got spanked by a tiny bitty 1.3L powerful rotary engine ahahaha.... FUCK YA. Rx8 > Ford (Fix or repair daily.) A Perfectly Engineered 1.3L (rotary) vs ignorance shit.
definately right. I've let people drive my car.... i know.... im crazy... but its funny cuz they never get the full potential out of it and end up calling it slow lol then i show them :P
I'm just stateing that Edmunds, Road&Track, Motortrend, and Car&Driver all show the Mustang with a significant advantage on their websites. I'm in no way denying the better perfomance capable out of the RX-8. My initial statement is that a 15.5 out of a '05+ MGT is obviously a missed shift. I ran a 15.2 in my stock '94 Probe GT when I still had it. Evan Smith is a professional driver; he drove a '06 GT to a 13.3 @ 106. The magazines fall as high as 13.7 (with Edmunds at 14.1) 15.5 is to high
I don't think so. A stock Mustang GT has has 300 hp (at the flywheel) while my SC RX8 has 330 at the wheels or about 380 at the flywheel. Also the Mustang GT curb weight is 3356 pounds while my RX8 is 2900 pounds. Basically more hp and less weight.
Wait, if you got to motortrend's website, they got a 13.5 out of a 2005 Mustang GT and car and driver got a 13.7... So how does this guy run a 15.5? He obviously missed a shift.
Those numbers are due to a profesional driver doing the test. Here is what Edmuns posted on the same car 1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.13@101.00 That is more realistic and 15.5 could also imply a novice driver since the car looked almost brand new up close.
Went to Edmunds, here is a quote from them: "As such, the 350Z, as well as the retro-American Ford Mustang GT, handily beat the Mazda in terms of outright performance." Edmunds also states the RX-8 get a 15.4 sec quarter mile. So according to your sources, the Mustang GT is still 1.3 seconds faster in the quarter mile.. HUGE difference. Search "Mustang GT" and "Rx-8" here on YouTube. You will not see any 15 second Mustang other than this one.
Absolutely. All the power is hard to launch right if you are not used to it. The 8 has a better clutch and shift and is easier to drive than the gt. If you spin at the line even for a second, which isnt really long, it will put the gt in the high 14 to low 15. A bad launch will show most in the et. Couple a bad launch with slow shifting, and you could do worse.
Thats pretty bad if you have 330 rwhp and ran a 14.16, a s2000 runs a 14.2 with 240 motor hp. If your not getting mid 13's or better than you aren't launching correctly for your power band. I was getting real bad times with my 8 when I was trying to avoid wheel hop by launching at 3500, now I launch at 6500 and it spins instead of hops but my times dropped by 4 tenths. My friends 07 stang with stock power of 260 whp runs 13.9 and weighs 3550 so you def aren't getting the most out of yours.
lets not kid the RX is just above 3000 unless you put the little guy on a diet cuz im looking to knock my '04 RX8 down to 2700 but titanium / carbon fiber / kevlar is expensive lol
@marsredr100 ha yea but i have a 2000 mustang gt and stock it ran better than a 15.5? that s197 shouldve ran atleast in the high 14s. if anything low 14s.
smexyg0th. A good friend of mine had the rx8 gt 6 spd as well. I got to ride in it and drive...and my conclusion was that it was absolutely gutless, mostly due to hqving 0 torque. I just having a hard time respecting a car that my car put BUS lengths on, several times.
shoppy16 4 months ago
wat year r both the cars??
6abeo 6 months ago
@texarmageddon you keep repeating urself about weight n shit, as i said, when it comes to uncontrolled power output, muscle has the advantage.. Acceleration doesn't only depends on power u know..
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon u said there's no 6 speed GT except the 2011 which proves u dnt know shit about RX8s, n 4 ur info, RX8 has 5 versions, RX8 auto, sport, gt, R3, track theyr all different from each other.. I customized 8 cars so far including RX8, mustang, 350Z and challenger, and I know all there is to know about all of these unlike u.. Yea I know Google helps but really?.. Book Mazda estimates ur quoting?.. I gave u real track numbers so u can suck ur dick if u dnt wanna believe it..
smexyg0th 7 months ago
I don't underestimate the V8 mustang, I actually like them and admire them, I have a 68 charger with a V8 and I love it, but I just hate how your too stubborn to see it; I gave you my numbers on my stock RX8, give me your magic numbers; real test, not book or estimates... and tell me how much you payed.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
please don't comment if your a little kid who is just pissed that a tiny 1.3L engine beat the hell of his precious mustang.. Rotary is better than piston.. if your an idiot and want me to simplify the picture... a 1.3L piston engine is like driving your grandma's mini van.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@AgentStyles I agree that American cars typically has advantage when it comes to uncontrolled power, and that Japanese got corners, butI have an 05 RX8 GT, 0 mods on the engine, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, top speed 167.6 MPH... its not the "suppose to" or the book speed, I actually tested it in the race track and have records to prove it. Don't talk about something when you don't have all the facts... a 1.3L Rotary engine is beating the hell out of a 3.7L V6 whether you want to believe it or not.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
stock 8's run 14's ... if its supercharged then this must be a bad run
9Fourteen 1 year ago
My mom thought someone was sawing down our oak tree when I was playing this video in my room.
1brannon10 1 year ago 8
@1brannon10
Funny, she told me that she tought that you were playing with her vibrator.
marsredr100 1 year ago 13
@marsredr100 Pahahha!!
1brannon10 1 year ago
whoever paid for that mustang to get tuned got screwed. lol that stang should be "way" faster. what did the stang have? an electric supercharger? lol
isthoed 1 year ago
@isthoed I agree, that is nothing to be proud of. I have an 02 GT with bolt ons and no tune and I run high 14s on street tires at 3100 feet. This RX-8 should beat the GT in this video, but in ideal conditions the GT would run around 14 flat and the supercharged RX-8 in the 13s, depending on boost. A 15.5 in a 2005+ GT at anything below 7000 feet is the result of bad/lazy driving.
miamizep 1 year ago
@miamizep i agree...they look fun to drive none the less :)
isthoed 1 year ago
who won?
MrJeezy999 1 year ago
the mustang missed a gear..you can easily tell..
greekooo3 1 year ago
Not that it would've changed the outcome of the race but the mustang missed second, you can clearly see his rear squat during the launch and try to shift into 2nd at :29sec, then it just coasts til :31sec where you can hear him get back on it, during this span your car pull about 3 cars on the stang.
blown06tc 1 year ago
Ride that Stang. go RX-8
brownba1994 2 years ago
SPANK THAT PONY! lol
covr687 2 years ago
That stang driver suck big time...
N that's a nice rx-7
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8 its a rx8
CIDVICIOUS831 2 years ago
Ma bad... I though I wrote rx-8
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8 haha dumbass its an rx8. the stand did good, the 8 is just fi'd
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
n what do u want me to give u by u calling me dumbass... a happy meal or a big kid meal?... smart ass
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8 the happy if it comes with a toy
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
sure, it does come with a toy just for u n its big n if u hold it with both hands n shake it u will get a big surprize
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8 sure ok n its u cant awesome n u retard n u gay n u
stfu dumbass.
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
Why u have to be such a female...
Man!, u can't take a fucking joke...
But whatever call me whatever u want I care less...
Oh. N it's going to be funny If u reply to ma comment with something stupid like the last one...
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8
i was mocking you. jackass.
and calling me female? that's supposed to be an insult?
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
lol
u r so funny bro.
but still u sound like a female... u know, cuz they r like computers.... they both have a lot of memories but no brain at all n so r u lol...
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8
computeres dont have memories.
n so r u.
even if that was spelled correctly that wouldnt make sense.
go back to school dumbass
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
u use a comp. n u dont even know what does a comp. have?... man we do need to go to school to learn about hard drives, video cards, mother board, n so many things out there about compure...
man take a joke n stop been such a female...
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8
they have memory, not memories.
we need to go to school? just you.
go suck a dick so you can finally stfu
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
Man!, stop getting mad kid. N just take a joke....
Anyways I'm done with u...
I need a new female in here lol...
N please don't comment me back with something stupid just to make u look good in here cuz no one care about it
1984StangV8 2 years ago
@1984StangV8 whatever loser. go ahead, have the last word.
alwaysanthony 2 years ago
Slowest gt ive ever seen, that's v6 times.
firechicken76 2 years ago
sumthing was wrong with the mustang unless it was a v6 because the gt's run mid 13's-low14's and the v6 is in the low 15's. but anyway nice rx8 and it runs good to. i never was a fan of the rx8 tho i would prefer the 3rd gen 7 for myself.
BLACKLACDTS 2 years ago
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aluminumfalcom 2 years ago
Wow.. SC and still only ran a 14.12??? What was the DA?
adanieljohnson1 2 years ago
Best time so far 13:44 with 330 whp and don't forget that it is only a 1.3 litre engine.
marsredr100 2 years ago
I don't know if it was a typo or not, or maybe you have some stuff tuned on the car, but I do know that a stock completly rx8 has 232whp, but idk if you have anything done or not, I may be wrong, but still very nice car, 5/5.
sauske295fan 2 years ago
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NitroGadvRules 1 year ago
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@marsredr100 rx8 engine is a rotary engine though, you can't compare the displacement like that. Not to mention it sounds like shit.
NitroGadvRules 1 year ago
@marsredr100 i think your main problem is lack of torque with the small engines, and btw that mustang sucked...ive done better in my 4.0
ADD8oi 1 year ago
@marsredr100 dude i no it should run better then tht.. my buddy with a pettit racing sc .. he runs low 11s all days..
THACHACHA 1 year ago
@marsredr100 If you measure a rotary with piston standards, it's actually a 3.8L. This is why rotaries are banned from Le Mans.
lilgookiemonsta 11 months ago
@lilgookiemonsta You're an idiot. It's not a 3.8L. If you actually knew anything about rotaries, you'd know the Rx-8 is the 1.3L which is a 2rotor, when they banned rotaries from Le Mans, was because of the 787B, which uses a 4rotor and is equivalent to over 3.5L. You can't compare rotary engines to piston standards, they're 2 totally different engines.
iRx8 11 months ago 3
@iRx8 drivingsports.c o m /site/2008/12/rotary-vs-piston-engine-equivalency/
I was wrong, it's considered a 3.9L.
lilgookiemonsta 11 months ago
@lilgookiemonsta A 2ROTOR (13b) Rotary engine is a 654cc per rotor (2x654cc) = 1.3L. It is in fact a 1.3L. Again, you cannot compare a piston engine to a rotary engine as a rotary engine works totally different than a piston engine. Now that you have been slightly educated with the rotary engine, go listen to the beautiful sounds of the a 4rotor (R26B) which was the engine used in the 787B, the car that destroyed the '91 Le mans.
iRx8 11 months ago 17
@iRx8 "In a rotary engine, displacement is a bit trickier. Each rotor has three faces, or working chambers, and there are two rotors in a 13B engine. All six chambers have a displacement of 0.654 liters, but it takes three revolutions of the output shaft to bring all those chambers through a full cycle. Were it to be rated by the same method as a piston engine (chamber displacement times number of chambers), it would be called a 3.9 liter." Stop being a fanboi.
lilgookiemonsta 11 months ago
@lilgookiemonsta The key for comparing the displacement between the 4-cycle engine and the rotary engine is in studying the degrees of rotation for a thermodynamic cycle to occur. For a 4-cycle engine to complete every thermodynamic cycle, the engine must rotate 720° or two complete revolutions of the crankshaft. The rotary engine is different. The engine rotor rotates at 1/3 the speed of the crankshaft. On two rotor engines, front and rear rotors are 180° offset from each other.
iRx8 11 months ago 6
@lilgookiemonsta Displacement is the amount of volume swept which will be combusted. That means moving the crankshaft (but how many revolutions is where people mistake it). It has everything to do with revolutions as a point of reference. Do you double count a 2 stroke motor? I don't think so, Liters is liters and displacement is displacement. It makes no sense for that type of comparison, as you cannot compare a piston engine to the same way you're comparing the rotary engine.
iRx8 11 months ago 12
@iRx8
yeah thats kool... so tell me what is a rotary engine? how do they work? because im a v8 man and know all about them, but i know noyhind about rotary engines???
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@iRx8
yeah thats kool... so tell me what is a rotary engine? how do they work? because im a v8 man and know all about them, but i know nothing about rotary engines???
mrstrongable 11 months ago
@lilgookiemonsta You're telling him to stop being a fanboi? How about you stop being ignorant.
You clearly do not understand how displacement works or how an engine works in general. You're probably just some little kid who got pissed off because his precious rustang was beaten by a 1.3L. Yeah, it took Ford over 50 years just to get the mustang to have a decent amount of horsepower in their v6 and v8s... but still the Japanese can make a more power 4banger than most American V8's.
SatanSlave6 11 months ago 4
@SatanSlave6 I could care less that the Rustang lost. It's just the import lovers hate hearing that they're wrong. I'll quote it again so you guys can read it. "Were it [1.3L rotary] to be rated by the SAME method as a piston engine (chamber displacement times number of chambers), it would be called a 3.9 liter." YOU MAD, BRO? I can understand your anger. I'd be mad if I couldn't use the "my hp/liter is better than yours" excuse.
lilgookiemonsta 11 months ago
@lilgookiemonsta You're obviously a troll... You know your wrong because you keep avoiding the answer that irx8 said like 5 times and just keep saying that it's a 3.9L with no valid proof just some blog written by a nao named twat ... rotarys have been out for like 45 years, are you really going to question the engineers who created it when it's a 1.3... and saying you mad bro? what r u like 11?
SatanSlave6 11 months ago
@lilgookiemonsta The RX8 1.3L rotary, is a 1.3L.
If you rate it the same as a piston engine its only a 2.6L.
A tiny ass V6 perhaps?
3.9 is some number you made up.
SeventySev7n 9 months ago
@SeventySev7n A piston engine total displacement is the sum of all the cylider displacments, but exactly HALF of those do any work on any given revolution. A rotary engine displacement is the individual "cylinder" displacment times 2 (two rotors).
SeventySev7n 9 months ago
@SeventySev7n Each chamber has a 654cc displacment and there are three chambers per rotor, but it takes three rotations of the eccentric shaft for all three chambers to complete a full cycle...which means that there is one complete cycle per revolution for each rotor. In other words, all the displacement is used on every rotation, whereas a piston engine only works half as much for the rated displacment.
SeventySev7n 9 months ago
@SeventySev7n a 1.3L rotary w/ 6 speed standard delivers about 236 according to my last dyno run on my 05 RX8 (0 mods on engine and added weight from sound system), thats more than the 350Z's 3.5L V6 which delivers about 229 according to my friend's 2006 350Z GT dyno run.. get your facts right before speaking.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@SatanSlave6 dont hate on other peoples cars, i agree that mustangs have been underpowered for a long time (excluding 99,01,03, and 04 cobras) until 2005 when they made decent power. Most of the 4bangers that make more power than older mustangs are Evo's and STI's, which are expensive. Ford could of made a powerful mustang long ago by making superchargers standard on mustangs, but they wanted to keep it affordable
lax1234567889 8 months ago
@iRx8 The rotary is in fact totally different than a piston engine. the Wankel rotary engine is more efficient, lighter, and has better acceleration, which makes it a perfect for such a light weight car like the RX8. A well tuned RX8 will beat a mustang in a drag any time, any day.
smexyg0th 9 months ago
@smexyg0th A RX-8 can't even beat a new edge stang... they weigh the same..
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon The RX8 have 2 versions, a 1.3L 173 Horse power Automatic, and a 1.3L 236 Horse power 6 speed standard.. the 6 speed GT with leather weights about 3200l.b., which is about the same as the edge stang... there's no way an 6 speed RX8 would loose to a dumb car like that unless the driver is a dumb fuck who missed all their gears.. it was probably an automatic one your talking about.. get your facts right... not off a forum either.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th 6 Speed gt? Few things... The only 6 speed gt is.. the 2011 GT. you're already starting to lose this. I don't know why you think a 6 speed is so great, but for a car that weighs VERY SIMILAR to a new edge stang, has no chance. We call that power to weight mate. The only way a New edge gt would lose is if he missed all his gears. Quit being a nutswinger... RX-8 make touring and track cars, but are far from decent on a drag strip. Everyone knows this.
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon ur obviously an idiot, I bet u don't even know what GT refers to.. GT is grand touring, n u bet ur ass RX8 has a grand touring version, AKA GT, since 2004..and the 6 speed GT is way different from the automatic.. 6 speed red lines at 9000 RPMS n if I have to explain what RPMS help with than ur def a dumb fuck.. I customize cars for living, n u probably just a guy tht has chrome big ass wheels n big subs n think ur so cool cuz u drive fast.. don't argue when u dnt know shit.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th Dude, you don't work on cars for a living. Quit pretending. you can't even get Hp estimations right. You say there are two different versions, but there aren't. Unless this was a european thing. How hard is it to understand a car that weighs over 3000lbs makes 230hp (Rnd) and 190tq(Rnd)Is clearly going to lost to the car that is making 260hp and 300tq in a 3200lb vehicle. Power to weight is clearly written here. Can't get better proof.
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon I customize cars for living, I did 13 cars so far including the RX8, and the mustang, just to let you know, there are 5 different versions of the RX8 which are the auto, sport, GT, R3, and track and all of them are quite different from each other.. stop repeating yourself with the power-to-weight ratio shit, I said that when it comes to uncontrolled power, muscles has the advantage, but, power is not the only thing you need for fast acceleration dumb fuck.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th Dude, your RX-8 isn't hitting a 4.8 second 0-60 . Why do i need to call when you can supply a time slip? You don't want to take peoples word for it on a forum why should other people take yours? You haven't supplied an inch of evidence other than your mouth. Mazda themselves rate their cars and post it on their own OFFICIAL website. in rare cases you have under rated cars but considering your year was faced with false claims... you were over rated.
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon Your not worth me uploading shit for you, you can call and check.. your the one whose being stubborn and questioning every single shit.. and I don't know if you know this, but rotaries and all engines for that matter differ from each other, which means my RX8 and my friend's could have 3 HP difference, and same story goes to ur mustang.. Mazda ratings is according to a lap test on a few cars and an average is posted just like gas mileage between 16-23.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th What type of dyno are you using? its pretty simple each person will pick up different ratings.. Anyhow, are you seriously going to make a video going 0-60, but refuse to bring up a timeslip? Are you seriously?Dude, no... don't bother cause it will be BS. Timeslip or shut is all I'm going to say. I always acknowledge the faster car. You said which car is better stock on the strip, and I highly disagree that is all.
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon u have the full right to disagree, but do it respectfully because there's always the possibility that u could be wrong.. acknowledge n then disagree, don't just assume that I'm lying or whatever.. your a stang enthusiast and I'm an RX8 enthusiast, u got ur opinions n I got mine.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th Btw, didn't I say,"make touring and track cars." clear evidence of I know what gt refers to
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon you said there's no "6 speed GT except the 2011 GT", which is a clear evidence of u don't know shit about RX8s.. RX8 6 speed GT has been in the U.S. market since 2003 dumb fuck.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th There are just so many things you didn't factor into this argument its not even funny
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon quote your mom, "Your the best mother fucker I've ever had!" .. stop commenting on a video that your precious mustang lost in and leave with whats left of your ignorant dignity.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon read over the comments, I have my #'s in there, ur not worth writing them again.. n if ur precious stang can get close to them stock wise, then u can talk.. I just don't see why r u so stubborn when ur commenting on a video that the RX8 won n the stang lost.. in a DRAG STRIP.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th #'s? The RX-8 Ran a 14:12 and its supercharged! Motortrend ran a 14.1 with a 1999 Mustang GT. We didn't even have PI heads back then. I tried to ignore your ignorant comment, but clearly you need me to stir the pot. Quote from mazda.. MANUAL TRANS 232HP@8500rpm. Auto Trans 212hp@7500rpm. Motortrend, edmunds, etc. Post the RX-8 at 14.8.. that is foxbody times.*cough* those are exactly 3000lbs. me going to the forum would have helped you out, but clearly even in magazine racing you lost
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon quote from Mazda?! r u fucking kidding me, I know your a noob and that Google helps quite a lot, but I'm giving you real track record on my stock RX8, contact San Antonio race track and request records if your such a dumb fuck... Quote from Bugatti, "Bugatti Veryon is the best car in the world" .. it doesn't make it true, it maybe the fastest and most powerful, but definitely not the best.. stop being a noob.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
@smexyg0th When you said GT, I assumed Mustang as hardly anyone refers to the RX8 in trim levels. Some come on Guy. Magazines give you a general area of what times your car can run. If you're good enough you can shorten that time (BARELY). Sounds to me you have just added or subtracted 10 to every known number out there
Texarmageddon 7 months ago
@Texarmageddon I have no idea why are u so pissed n teased by this, if u bet ur life on it, I'll upload a video by tomorrow of me going 0-60 on a public road in 4.8 seconds so u can shut the fuck up with ur dumb accusations.
smexyg0th 7 months ago
The Pettit charger is a nice unit it's just too bad that the torque numbers arent higher, I think for my 8 I will go with a BHR upgraded turbo, they seem to be getting around the same WHP with higher torque... would love to see some times with that kit on youtube....
Jea629 2 years ago
look at the torque curve you get with the supercharger over the turbo charger. if im not mistaken the super charger holds a flatter curve over the turbo charger. with the flatter curve it should make the 8 easier to drive.
xbartosx 2 years ago
Same rx8 ran a 13.5 against a vette... 327whp, sorry said it was 307 before... nice car.
Bailey19Louie 2 years ago
I think the rx8 is still faster... that on put down like 307 to the wheels... both drivers were not great... GT was horrible though...rx8 is lighter though...
Bailey19Louie 2 years ago
yeah and the RX8 had a darker red though, rims were probably shinier though, a fly hit the mustang though, and the seats are small in the rx8 though...
unknownmember1221 2 years ago
Mustang missed second gear and tried to recover. Failed though
SMGslimg00dy 2 years ago
The Mustang driver failed miserably. I'm 3/3 watching these drag races (intentionally looking for mismatches, knowing I'd find 100% amateur video) and the car with the steep advantage lost. I'll stick to watching the professionals drive and test these cars tyvm. This was just stupid, no offense to whoever recorded or uploaded it btw.
Theharlemshake 2 years ago
Oh no, someone uploaded a non-professional video. How dare they!
Get a life, bud.
CyberPitz 2 years ago
You're an ass. You didn't read the last sentence.
Theharlemshake 2 years ago
Oh, so saying that uploading the video is "just stupid" but ending with "no offense" is just fine? No, that's a scapegoat, and the person is an asshole for saying it. Would you defend him if he said "You're mother is a bitch, no offense though"?
I thought not.
CyberPitz 2 years ago
Again, you're an ass. I was obviously talking about the race. The race was stupid. What does that have to do with who recorded or uploaded it? Exactly.
Theharlemshake 2 years ago
If you're looking for factual, or non biased video, you're in the wrong place dude.
wetpixels 2 years ago
Loved the backfire going into third.
I <3 my velocity red rx8
Zalkoth 2 years ago
the rx8 has about 227hp and a gt has about 332 and the rx8 still won
highguy420100 2 years ago
the gt also runs mid 13's stock,
15's=driver error
mustang driver didnt even burn out.
firechicken76 2 years ago
Gt driver -_- dono how to drive
shinx1214 2 years ago
The v8 got spanked by a tiny bitty 1.3L powerful rotary engine ahahaha.... FUCK YA. Rx8 > Ford (Fix or repair daily.) A Perfectly Engineered 1.3L (rotary) vs ignorance shit.
ajyabhilash 2 years ago
Awesome video! Rx8's FTW! Rotary > Piston.
ajyabhilash 2 years ago
joey jordison suckz dick
popniggers 2 years ago
I get the best 0-30ft times launching at 4200rpms for my n/a rx8
Zalkoth 2 years ago
The RX8 is a car that requires some sort of skill when driving due to the high rpms required to see power.
It is a car that has to be pushed and if you don't, you will end up with 15.5.
neilp4453 3 years ago 6
Correct
mynameisroberta 2 years ago
pretty much. that goes for any car, if you dont know your powerband, then you fail as a driver
veltpak6 2 years ago
definately right. I've let people drive my car.... i know.... im crazy... but its funny cuz they never get the full potential out of it and end up calling it slow lol then i show them :P
mehmehxxx 2 years ago
rx-8s are slow, i used to have one. they run mid 14s stock, this one is SC and still ran in the 14's
firechicken76 2 years ago
best i gota outa my n/a rx8 was a 14.72
YoItsDLeV 3 years ago
I'm just stateing that Edmunds, Road&Track, Motortrend, and Car&Driver all show the Mustang with a significant advantage on their websites. I'm in no way denying the better perfomance capable out of the RX-8. My initial statement is that a 15.5 out of a '05+ MGT is obviously a missed shift. I ran a 15.2 in my stock '94 Probe GT when I still had it. Evan Smith is a professional driver; he drove a '06 GT to a 13.3 @ 106. The magazines fall as high as 13.7 (with Edmunds at 14.1) 15.5 is to high
travelguy008 3 years ago
I had posted this in reply to the bottom converstation; however, YouTube keeps messing this up... oh well
travelguy008 3 years ago
obviously, but dont put the 8 in the ricer civic category. It's fast in corners, not in a straight line :P
yourmotherrules 3 years ago
Definitly not ricer civic category; won't even go there. Beefy breaks, good susoension from the factory. The 8 would walk over a Civic Si I'm sure.
travelguy008 3 years ago
guaranteed...
yourmotherrules 3 years ago
I ran better than a 15.5 when I had a Probe GT.. That Mustang missed a shift or something.
travelguy008 3 years ago
I don't think so. A stock Mustang GT has has 300 hp (at the flywheel) while my SC RX8 has 330 at the wheels or about 380 at the flywheel. Also the Mustang GT curb weight is 3356 pounds while my RX8 is 2900 pounds. Basically more hp and less weight.
marsredr100 3 years ago
Wait, if you got to motortrend's website, they got a 13.5 out of a 2005 Mustang GT and car and driver got a 13.7... So how does this guy run a 15.5? He obviously missed a shift.
travelguy008 3 years ago
Those numbers are due to a profesional driver doing the test. Here is what Edmuns posted on the same car 1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.13@101.00 That is more realistic and 15.5 could also imply a novice driver since the car looked almost brand new up close.
marsredr100 3 years ago
Went to Edmunds, here is a quote from them: "As such, the 350Z, as well as the retro-American Ford Mustang GT, handily beat the Mazda in terms of outright performance." Edmunds also states the RX-8 get a 15.4 sec quarter mile. So according to your sources, the Mustang GT is still 1.3 seconds faster in the quarter mile.. HUGE difference. Search "Mustang GT" and "Rx-8" here on YouTube. You will not see any 15 second Mustang other than this one.
travelguy008 3 years ago
If you look properly, the rx-8 can do a 14.3 1/4 mile completely stock... Most decent driver's can get a 14.5-.6 out of the rx-8.
Most people Mustangs overrev and start with spinning tires accross the whole 1/4 mile. Average is about 13.8-14.1 for the Mustang.
yourmotherrules 3 years ago
Absolutely. All the power is hard to launch right if you are not used to it. The 8 has a better clutch and shift and is easier to drive than the gt. If you spin at the line even for a second, which isnt really long, it will put the gt in the high 14 to low 15. A bad launch will show most in the et. Couple a bad launch with slow shifting, and you could do worse.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
lol there is something wrong with your car then or you screwed up your run cuz my 8 has nowhere near 330whp and I ran a 14.16...
mehmehxxx 3 years ago
Thats pretty bad if you have 330 rwhp and ran a 14.16, a s2000 runs a 14.2 with 240 motor hp. If your not getting mid 13's or better than you aren't launching correctly for your power band. I was getting real bad times with my 8 when I was trying to avoid wheel hop by launching at 3500, now I launch at 6500 and it spins instead of hops but my times dropped by 4 tenths. My friends 07 stang with stock power of 260 whp runs 13.9 and weighs 3550 so you def aren't getting the most out of yours.
Chrisnuzzo76 2 years ago
^^ read.... i said my car has NOWHERE near 330. I'm probably running around 230 whp. but thanks for the tips
mehmehxxx 2 years ago
@marsredr100
lets not kid the RX is just above 3000 unless you put the little guy on a diet cuz im looking to knock my '04 RX8 down to 2700 but titanium / carbon fiber / kevlar is expensive lol
MrMishift 1 year ago
@MrMishift rx8 with leather its about 3100 lbs
without leather its around 2800 lbs
you could probily get yours down to 2700 take the back seats out along with some other stuff.
marlinbike 1 year ago
@marsredr100 ha yea but i have a 2000 mustang gt and stock it ran better than a 15.5? that s197 shouldve ran atleast in the high 14s. if anything low 14s.
deerhunter1711 1 year ago
rotor power baby...
Rx8 6speed owner
1chavito3 3 years ago
15.5 1/4 mile time for a gt!? new driver please
ronburgendy245 3 years ago