Hatch: Health Care Reform Threatens America's Two-Party System

[WKaliberr]

good

fuck they two party system! it should be a 10 party system so maybe we would have some better candidates to choose from

[stealth63]

Translated to English: if the Dems manage to give the American people what they want (60% favor a public option) then Americans will be very happy and vote for Democrats b/c they got what they wanted, and as a republican, that makes me very sad deep in my heart, so I will call everyone who disagrees with me a socialist, even though I'm using the word incorrectly. Sigh. Whimper. Democracy is so unfair when you lose!

[marniespeaks]

Hatch needs to stop taking his taxpayer government health care

[GretchenDawntreader]

Health Care Reform threatens the 2 party system when 1 party is so dedicated to screwing the president for political gain regardless of the consequences to the country, that they implode in a huge negative hate ball and collapse into a singularity. They will wind up representing those 13 percent of New Jersey republicans who think Obama's the antichrist, and that's how you lose the 2 party system in America...when 1 party destroys itself.

[flowergirl1313]

epic fail. too fucking stupid and wrong to point out the probems w/ Hatch.

[fishhead06]

Unhinged. The biggest threat to the two-party system is the utter dependence of the Republican Party on its corporate masters. It's killing it.

[bigbengamer]

he is right. it will be extremely difficult to maintain a two party system in america. so i guess one of them will have to go. anyone got a coin?

two party systems are highly flawed. they maintain the extremes of each side, and refuse to compromise to find the middle ground. the only options you have are the ones THEY decide you can have. the masses do not have a voice anymore in the government 'of the people'. we need a new system, and let it start with a new health care plan

[bigbengamer]

mark my words, the republican party will die. then all that will be left is the democrats. as happy as that sounds, sadly it won't last. like the democratic-republican party did after defeating the federalists, the democratic party will split into the liberals and the conservatives. its already begun. the republican party no longer holds the interest of its members. but the conservative party is all to happy to step up. there will never be a party that will compromise for the best overall choice

[carrierexchange]

It's also a threat to life in the galaxy in general.

Douchebags

[flyyspit]

2 party dictatorship...

WAKE the fuck up people...FFS

[AtheistOnTheEdge]

It would be good to not have to choose between a douche bag and a turd sandwich anymore. Some more options would be good.

[fl00ders]

Oh noes, one party...

So in other words, it'll be exactly like it is now? The same strings pull both sides, your so called democracy is an illusion.

[fractalbuddha]

Even if the Republican Party falls apart, theres enough infighting with Dems to split them into two or more parties. I wouldnt worry.

[bigbengamer]

sadly you are right. i would love for the democrats to remain a unified arty should that happen. they debate each other and try to find the best answer. even if their wheels move slow(which is better than a fast spin), they do move. however people are bred to believe that there must always be an enemy, a challenger to defeat. compromise isn't as sweet as victory. and the masses will continue to suffer from this dangerously flawed philosophy

[TheManSand322]

It's NOT democracy if you only have 2 parties !

. American's get to pick there dictator!

. In America Freedom is just a word... Nothing more !

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[CaramelAnt]

The current Republican strategy against health care reform is "Just throw whatever you can think of against the wall and pray it sticks."

[j0hnwi11iams]

What a shame it is that everyone gets one vote. Asswipe.

[asphyxiafeeling]

threatens the two party system? ALRIGHT! LETS GET THIS PASSED ASAP :)

[PersonalJesus348]

LOL MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY! *high fives*

[dkkght46]

I get it now, HarryCare + PelosiCare = ObamaCare

To make it simple for you with limited educations: HarryCare is short and does not have enough girth and lacks the stamina to deliver. Now they have to insert Harry(Care) into Pelosi(Care) and what will come out of this is Obama(Care). Its the healthcare version of RoseMarys Baby!

[Aspartame69]

Hatch is correct here...

The public option has highlighted the fact that the US republican party is a joke and is only currently supported by the stupid and easily lead.

Its days are numbered.

[jasonsadventure]

i hope your wrong aspartame69.

our democracy doesn't work well with one party rule. if the republicans were not constantly at the heels of the democrats, keeping them honest, the dems would descend into greed and coruption.

the g.o.p. needs to shake off it's crazy, bigoted, hate-filled, rush limbaugh, glen beck, sean hannity wingand become a common sense party instead of a nonsense party.

if they can, the system will work better and the country will be better.

[BullnBearAnalytics]

Go Senator Hatch!

[mrbhave]

Hatch and every other politician who votes against the public option should be stripped of his/her publicly-financed health insurance. If you're gonna bash it, then you shouldn't be entitled to it.

[frostwolf1]

No Mr Hatch, it doesn't threaten the two-party system, it threatens YOUR party. When people can no longer identify with your party because it stands for nothing more than corporate corruption, your party will crumble, and eventually a new one will rise to take its place.

But until that happens, yes, people will switch to the Democratic party. If that bothers you so much, why not try to offer them a better, tangible alternative to show there's still some rational, honorable Repubs left?

[allgoo19]

Look, the source of the problem is talking about the problem.

[verstwo2]

oh no, politicians that actually care about the well being of citizens?!?!!? The horror!!!

[rippac86]

orrin hatch owns.. hatch for president of mcdonalds 09'

[Melpheos1er]

two party system is bad !

[dafttool]

Hatch says that 40% (soon 50%) don't pay taxes at all. Whatever. Is he complaining that poor people aren't paying enough taxes? Because that's what it sounds like. It sounds like this so-called conservative is advocating raising taxes on the poor.

If the 2 party system is going down, good riddance. It's not as if either party is much good. The dems too often are pussies & the over-reaching GOP is destroying itself from the inside out. Neither party deserves a lock on the American people.

[jamesmaseobrown]

Amen to that brother !!!

[TrollBuster9090]

For the last 30 years Republicans have been pushing the pitiful syllogism that because poor people are more dependent on govt, and also tend to vote Democrat, that Democrats want to make as many people poor (and by extension dependente on govt) as possible.

The tactic has worked so well that all they have to do now is quote statistics on increasing poverty to complete their silly circular argument, which is all Hatch was doing there. It's pretty much a knee-jerk response for conservatives.

[whoo689]

Since when do Congressmen go on stupid media outlets like CNS?? O.o

Of course, I guess it's understandable. Some public figures go on CBN's 700 Club, for god sake.

[jamesmaseobrown]

Michelle Bachman is a ditz who is an embarrassment as much as Bush was.

I WANT A PUBLIC OPTION !

I'm going to call me Member's district office and tell them to Support a robust public option.

PUT YOU HANDS ON MY HEALTHCARE AND MAKE IT BETTER ! ! !

[JBeatty17]

Come to an astroturf movement funded by Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks, the same groups who have actively worked to convince Washington lawmakers to cut taxes and regulation for the same Big Businesses that got us into this economic shithole, while at the same time working to convince said lawmakers to RAISE taxes on Middle Class Americans to pay for the Big Business tax cuts? Look no further than who is shelling out the dough for these 'Tea Parties'.

[majorgeek]

Hatch is right about single payer healthcare threatening the American two-party system... If by the two parties you mean the Federal Government and the healthcare industry that owns over half of the members of that government. We should put the healthcare industry out of business, because we aren't getting our money's worth out of them. Talk about being taxed to death... That's what the health insurance companies do to us now, literally!

[JerezJulio]

Was that in interview?

I never heard an explanation from these radical republican why Socialized medicine is evil. They are trying to make the word Socialize the new Communist, Gay, Muslim, or Liberal.

Why it is it that we never hear any one of these interviewer asking why is Health care for everyone so evil, and what does that have to do with a two party system?

These Senators are not only morons, they are bad Amercian.

I do not get why Obama is so considered with these criminals?

[gamoonbat]

The reason that so many do not pay taxes is that the working class is underpaid. Raise the minimum wage to the point that workers can afford to pay bills and contribute to the tax rolls!

[dennist3hmenace]

I keep telling you guys, the repubs will dissolve and the nationalists will take their place. When that happens, you'll be wishing for the repubs to come back.

[vdohwatcher]

stupid idiot hatch!

[doink1422]

everything he said made me throw-up in my mouth. I hope the people of his state vote his ass out of office

[commongroundpolitics]

Nonsense.

[savior02]

dumb democrats are asll about big govt

[phffeir]

no i think republicans threaten the two party system. they only want what they want an won't want to negotiate

[tonycapricorny]

Ugh, more fear-mongering. Uni health insurance would only slightly inconvenience the bottom lines of a small number of very wealthy insurance companies. It's not the end of the world, or the US economy, or the GOP, or even Orrin Hatch. (I mean, he's awfully calm and smarmy about something so apocalyptic ... or is it just me?)

[Robfenix]

Wow, this shows how the Republicans think. Their political power depends on NOT having the will of the people done. Democracy is very scary for them.

[TrollBuster9090]

This is basically exactly what Grover Norquist told the GOP in 1993, and repeated in Reason Magazine and later in SLATE. If Clinton had succeeded in bringing in universal health care in 1993, it would have relegated the GOP to permanent minority status. (Both parties agreed with this but for different reasons.)

But I guess Hatch didn't get the memo that he's not supposed to mention this in public, because the same thing could happen THIS time around.

[thisoldhate]

Pfft... If you're backed into a corner the obvious tactic is to spew fearful rhetoric and idiotic talking points... Good job Mr. Hatch (sarcasm). I think it is incumbent upon all Americans to learn to recognise these tactics for what they are.

[TheDuckofLaw]

Hatch and Repub idiocy threatens the 2party system.

[terpis]

Orrin Hatch--useless hack.

A festering, stinking Boil on the ass of America.

[phicubed]

Anyone who believes this old fag is insane. You people need to revolt against sick efantic garbage this this geezer. The fuftre belongs to you. The Youth. You are the chosen people. Do not let people like this take away your lives for there "quick buck" system. They care NOTHING for you. Revolt.

[3star2nr]

Yeah because when the democrat plan works NO ONE will vote for another republican

[taoofmichael]

Exactly.

Jeez dude, could you feed him the answers to the questions a little more OBVIOUSLY? I dont think he is getting what you want him to say quite clearly enough. I mean, why even have him there? Why dont you just ask the questions AND answer them, and Hatch can just watch? He likes to watch anyway, I've heard.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

if it works, which considering no universal health care plan has ever worked without increased rationing, and lowering quality, let alone a few really bad failures, to think its going to work better ,without the negative consequences, than previous attempts is like expecting rain after a rain dance. No evidence suggests this to be likely, but on a slight chance it just may work better

[franknyt]

What an outlandish lie. I've lived in the states for several years and the care I received there was either equal or less than the quality of care I get in Germany. I pay 550 euros for my entire family and that covers dental and all prescriptions. I pay double because I am self employed. You seriously do not know what you are talking about. There's no "rationing" of care that would be illegal and inhumane. Much like what you currently have. How's a deductable considered insurance??????

[LeGioNoFZioN]

rationing occurs in every system to varying degrees. no system has an unlimited budget to use.

[integral]

Le, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

true, I'm only a Canadian living in a universal health care system we have had since the 1960's. just because its true for us doesn't mean it is for you. Or not.

[jamesmaseobrown]

All you're doing is repeating Republican talking points that have absolutely no substance.

Conservatives pretend not to listen to all those people from the countrys who have universal health care, because they love it! And conservaives ignore and deny that our system is failing and have big problems.

Conservatism will destroy this country.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

where do you think the republicans got it genius ? from people who live with this now. Like me. the problem is universal health care is not a solution in and of itself. It can help some middle class folks who would have had no coverage otherwise, but it doesn't solve issues surrounding the problems in both our health care system and yours

[jamesmaseobrown]

BULLSHIT !

Didn't i say you argue like a conserative. All you did was make claims and provided no substance. THE REPUBLICANS DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HEALTHCARE ! W

[LeGioNoFZioN]

you said that but I don't see arguing as a conservative to be a position devoid of substance. You want substance, ok, our wait times for varying specialists here is so long, my friend has been waiting since April to see a specialist for her daughter so she can have a proper diagnosis of cystic fibrosis, so she can BEGIN treatment. to survive to 30 with CF one needs immediate attention and drug therapy. My friends daughter has lost years on her life because of Ontario's lack of health care

[LeGioNoFZioN]

what I am saying is not that universal health care is bad, but that it doesn't do a good enough job as is. at least here in Canada. so as I said UHC is not a solution to shitty health care, if anything more people are exposed to shit health care through it, what we need is to find a new way, or a new structure, but something new to fix this shithole we are forced to deal with.

[jamesmaseobrown]

OK, for some reason, It posted before I finished ! To continue:

When the repubs had the house, senate and congress, healthcare was NEVER an issue. All this crap about rationing and whatever are talking points gotten from the insurance industry who want to maintain a fat paycheck.

For this issue,the republicans are absolutely under control of the insurance industry. So are many of the dems, but not to the degree of the repugs

[LeGioNoFZioN]

you misunderstand me, I'm not saying dems and wrong repubs are right, I'm saying universal health care is not an end to issues of inequality, since we still have many in our universal system that is touted the world over. I'm saying this isn't and end, its just a new path with brand new challenges you didn't have before, and as such you need to prepare, but yanks are too foolish to think that far ahead. after all, both Bush and Obama passed insanely large stimulus bills both of which are corrupt

[LeGioNoFZioN]

neither one had the foresight to veto bills that were laden with special interests and other bullshit that didn't support the people but the corporate monarchy. I see excuses for the dems from you but not an objective assesment of what is going on. you stick to dem talking points foolishly. do some research, I'm not feeding you shit, I'm trying to keep you educated. There are inherant drawbacks you could work to mitigate now, or wait till you feel like Massachusets later and blame "Bush"

[SubmarinerAndroid]

So what Hatch is saying is that real healthcare reform would be so popular that it is in the Dems' interest to pass it. Alright then.

This is like when Repubs say that the problem with a strong public option is that it might threaten the existence of private insurers. I say, good, let's do it.

[TrollBuster9090]

Yes, he knows that if the Dems can bring in an EFFECTIVE program that can lower health care costs for most Americans (rather than a vapid, watered-down program that does nothin), the myth "government IS the problem" will be exploded, and the GOP won't be able to run on it again. Without their "bad government" mantra they're toothless.

Hatch, however, is so senile he didn't realize he'd stated the obvious without putting the appropriate spin on it. I've never seen anybody backpeddle so fast.

[Philinspaces]

This guy and Ted Kennedy used to be tight. Now that Teddy's gone he's got no one's ass to sniff. Our Hero Hatch.

[Aaberg123]

Stop mocking about with Westminter-like, majoritarian election system, and adopt a proportional election system instead.

[mrbadguysan]

What's the point in having a two-party system if one of the parties sole objective is to placate America's Collective of Village Idiots?

[ubuibiok]

Lobbyist bribes threaten the Whole Political system, Hell....it took it over years ago

[robinvan1983]

so i what way does that break down the 2 party system? are the republicans abandoning their own party?

[Stonehawk]

THANK THE GODS! Our two party system is STAGNANT! it -NEEDS- to be upset!

[AstoundedAtheist]

Huh?!