Electoral College Debate (1 of 8)

[wellborntoaster]

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[mvymvymvy]

National Popular Vote did not invent popular elections. Having election results determined by the candidate getting the most individual votes is not some scary, untested idea loaded with unintended consequences. It adds up votes of all voters and the candidate with the most popular votes wins, as in virtually every other election in the country.

[mvymvymvy]

In 2008, candidates concentrated over 2/3rds of their campaign events and ad money in just 6 states, and 98% in just 15 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states. Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections. Candidates would need to care about voters across the nation, not just undecided voters in a handful of swing states.

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[mvymvymvy]

In 1789, only 3 states used the winner-take-all rule (awarding all of a state's electoral vote to the candidate who gets the most votes in the state). However, as a result of changes in state laws, the winner-take-all rule is now currently used by 48 of the 50 states. The fact that Maine and Nebraska do not use the winner-take-all rule is a reminder that the Constitution left the matter of awarding electoral votes to the states. The winner-take-all system is not in the Constitution.

[stelist4life0]

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[prooc]

They should just take away the right to vote for everyone on welfare. That would solve the problem right there.

[macarion]

"We don't give power to people who are popular."

So we just pull governors out of our asses, right? No, they're elected by popular vote, as are senators, representatives, and everyone else. And the electoral college is supposed to approximate the popular vote.

[WhiteCamry]

What's really wrong with the Electoral College is the winner-take-all racket by which the Big Two Parties hijacked it. In 48 states (and DC) they bet to win all a state's electors by winning the minimal statewide majority. This was the real cause of the 2000 Fiasco and is why the Democrats never called for reform after that election. Recounts, yes, but never reform.

[Ikoris]

I can't even watch this debate after listening to Gary Gregg for more than 5 minutes. He claims that because of the electoral college nobody can become president just because they are popular. I guess it makes a lot more sense for somebody to become president just because they are rich. I agree that the popular vote shouldn't decide the president, but neither should the electoral college. Why do people have to be so closed minded and act like those are the only choices? How about a 3rd option?

[koppakraft]

Electorial voting needs to be banned by the United States Congress. During the election process of Bush and Gore, Bush won by the electoral votes, although Gore had more of the peoples vote than Bush. That clearly says that the peoples vote does not count and that it is the electorial votes that gets a president elected. It's completely unfair that the electorial votes over ride the peoples vote.