your feet dont make a difference in the "push jerk"? (is that what crossfit re-labeled a power jerk?) ya...they do actually, you dip keeping the weight ON YOUR HEELS (not on your toes like this guy because it causes you to end up pushing the weight in front of you and not in to the slot) JUMP explosively with the weight than push your self under the bar while re positioning your feet wider apart, catching at the same depth you dipped too
if you dont know wtf you are talking about, dont talk
@speedykthx there is no need to jump or to reposition your feet. Just to push the weight up and get under it without using your shoulders to press in anyway.
@hYpNoXiDe Lol what so you are an expert? You just do push jerks and shoulder presses all day? Fuck you talking bullshit like you got some kind of standing in this conversation. I actually lift 5 times a week, and I have coaches specifically paid to tell me how to lift properly. So no, I'm not an expert, but I know more about the subject than you do.Your ignorant arrogance is pretty funny.
@happymand When you lift 5 times a week using any of the lifts in this video or similar lifts thereof, providing that your actually training for a sport such as Gridiron or Rugby, then
@TheBruiser012 Dude I wish I understood the point ur trying to make. What is "it" that I'm doing wrong? Playing football for scholarship at a Division 1 ACC college?
@happymand Your feet do not need to leave the floor when you're push jerking, dumbest shit I've heard about the lift. And footballers don't lift 5 times a week, unless they're on a split, which if they are - is simply wrong. I don't give a shit which college you go to or what league you're in, if your doing a split for football, you're doing it wrong.
I always thought it was funny that people call it a "push jerk"....cause how are you going to jerk without a push? haha. I prefer to call it a "power jerk." Nice video man, keep up the good work
With the Jerk you tried to lift the weight while you knees are bent to reduce the distance bar needs to travel thus creating the lifter the ability to lift more weight.
In the Push Press, the lifter relies on upward lift through the glutes, hams and erector spinae while doing a shoulder press.
In the Push Jerk, the lifter drops into a half squat, presses the weight, locks his elbows for stiff arms and then relies on his glutes, hams and erector spinae.
Far better exercises exist for the athlete.
Use dumbbells or sandbags for the press.
Skip the push press and push jerk. Leave those for Olympic lifters who compete in a highly-specialized sport.
"military" press is a retarded version of the press where you stand straight and tall and dont move anything except your arms, thus pushing the bar NOT directly overhead- a stupid and inefficient way to lift it. add the word "seated" to something to make it seated, usually.
This is simply the press, or overhead press, or shoulder press- though the word "shoulder" is redundant- how can you press anything without your shoulders?
And you researched the incidence of joint injury among Olympic lifters how exactly?
Also, Olympic lifters receive precise coaching on the techniques of OLs.
The typical gym rat or CrossFit kool-aid drinker lack supervision and coaching to make these lifts properly.
Outside of the sport of OL itself, none of these lifts adhere to the MEMR principle for proper athletic training crossing over to on-the-field peformance.
i vehemently but respectfully disagree. what you are saying is your opinion only and most importantly, unsubstantiated and actually inefficient.
even though you are targeting your deltoids, it is beneficial to include push presses and push jerks because it mimics real world/ sports specific muscle usage. the power in, say, a punch depends on learning to use your entire body as a single unit , more specifically how to efficiently and fluidly move/ activate the specific kinetic chain.
actually, it's about the same movement, and the pecs are minimally involved in both actually. i'm a post grad at Baylor in exercise physiology, and I'm kinda burned out from shop-talk as it is.
i'm not into cross-fit, but I'm sure it's a world better than your program. go do some preacher curls you obsolete cowardly prick.
my good man i am appalled that you would think i use foul language to get my message across. i my good man am a gentleman and have never used such dispicable words in my life. what i said in spanish was i concur with the statement sir. i believe an apology is in order sir!
yes. That's the "Law of Specificity". If your aim is to improve punching power through myofibrillar hypertrophy ( which is much more permanent than vascular or "pump"), it would be faster to do exercises "explosively" with weight along with extra emphasis on form(light weight and low reps to prevent fatigue) and low rep/ max or close max weight.
To stay in your weight class, it would be better to practice your punch via neural efficiency. It's better to improve your power to weight ratio.
Hey dork, an exercise doesnt have to mimic something for it to have carryover to. Push Presses develop power. This power will carryover to other endeavors.
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What does your dumbass lift? You sound like some armchair personal trainer with no actual strength. Thats why you dont believe in the Push Press. You probably think the deadlift is a waste of time too. Your little sensitive back couldnt handle those. Fuck off and go do your little bodyweight exercise faggot.
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Saying "dumb fuck" every other sentence is why I would I want to kill you. A person's sound? What the fuck you talking about? You couldn't answer one question in my post. Little fuckin antagonistic coward. May death and disease be in your future.
You dip into a partial squat position, reverse the movement by driving the hips, then use the momentum to press the bar over your head. Make sure your using your legs for the drive up, makes it much easier to work with heavier weights without misses!!!
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
greatscotty 3 months ago
Solved every problem in 20sec
i14d14 3 months ago 2
what about butt press ???
enchilada702lv 5 months ago
Awesome!!! Great video! I needed to see this
Kachorro777 6 months ago
very good video showing the differences of three closely related exercises
pianoboy75 6 months ago
Good video, the differences are well set out.
Pihasanddunes1 7 months ago
this is the funnest exercise, 2nd to deadlifts for feeling strong.
summersubstructures 8 months ago 2
@summersubstructures Agree completely.
playboyv12 3 months ago
You need to make moar of these videos, they are great.
AGanimeH 8 months ago
straight up this is a fucking awesome video
moneytimesfifteen 9 months ago
your feet dont make a difference in the "push jerk"? (is that what crossfit re-labeled a power jerk?) ya...they do actually, you dip keeping the weight ON YOUR HEELS (not on your toes like this guy because it causes you to end up pushing the weight in front of you and not in to the slot) JUMP explosively with the weight than push your self under the bar while re positioning your feet wider apart, catching at the same depth you dipped too
if you dont know wtf you are talking about, dont talk
speedykthx 9 months ago
@speedykthx there is no need to jump or to reposition your feet. Just to push the weight up and get under it without using your shoulders to press in anyway.
TheBruiser012 8 months ago
Too bad i'm not a triplet
eduardazo 10 months ago
Most resourceful video. Thanks for clarifying.
w00tplayaw00t 1 year ago
Excellent illustration of the different styles.
815Rider 1 year ago
the guy doing presses didnt want to stop xD
sakelee 1 year ago
Not to be a downer, but ur feet are supposed to leave the ground when you do a push jerk.
happymand 1 year ago
@happymand you are wrong, the feets are not important, you are suppose to go down under the bar, not jump.
Nikko1255 1 year ago
@Nikko1255 No the feet are what make all the difference. Other than that the lifts are all the same...
happymand 1 year ago
@happymand .......Uh, no. They aren't. Even watching the demonstration here it's obvious. Do you even lift?
hYpNoXiDe 11 months ago
@hYpNoXiDe i love how idiots who don;t even lift think a military press is done wit hfeet together.
rctriplefresh5 11 months ago
@rctriplefresh5 Uh... okay.
hYpNoXiDe 11 months ago
@hYpNoXiDe what ind of gay response is that? you make me sick!
rctriplefresh5 11 months ago
@rctriplefresh5 Oh and by the way in this video, on the 2nd and 4th rep his feet leave the ground. The 1st and 3rd rep are done incorrectly.
happymand 11 months ago
@hYpNoXiDe Uh are you even out of middle school? I wouldn't be commenting if I didn't know what I was talking about. You on the other hand...
happymand 11 months ago
@happymand Keep jumping as you lift. You'll be making bro's laugh for ages. gjdm
hYpNoXiDe 11 months ago
@hYpNoXiDe Lol actually I do at NC State football lifting session every day. And no one laughs.
happymand 11 months ago
@happymand Oh in that case you are most definitely an expert on weightlifting. (notsrs)
hYpNoXiDe 10 months ago
@hYpNoXiDe Never said I was an expert... Way to be a douche.
happymand 10 months ago
@happymand So you admit you're not an expert but here you are preaching bullshit as though you were. Please, continue, your ideas intrigue me.
hYpNoXiDe 10 months ago
@hYpNoXiDe Lol what so you are an expert? You just do push jerks and shoulder presses all day? Fuck you talking bullshit like you got some kind of standing in this conversation. I actually lift 5 times a week, and I have coaches specifically paid to tell me how to lift properly. So no, I'm not an expert, but I know more about the subject than you do.Your ignorant arrogance is pretty funny.
happymand 9 months ago
@happymand When you lift 5 times a week using any of the lifts in this video or similar lifts thereof, providing that your actually training for a sport such as Gridiron or Rugby, then
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
TheBruiser012 9 months ago
@TheBruiser012 Dude I wish I understood the point ur trying to make. What is "it" that I'm doing wrong? Playing football for scholarship at a Division 1 ACC college?
happymand 9 months ago
@happymand Your feet do not need to leave the floor when you're push jerking, dumbest shit I've heard about the lift. And footballers don't lift 5 times a week, unless they're on a split, which if they are - is simply wrong. I don't give a shit which college you go to or what league you're in, if your doing a split for football, you're doing it wrong.
TheBruiser012 8 months ago
@happymand LOL "the lifts are all the same". Excellent bro science.
Beautyofmachines 11 months ago
@Beautyofmachines Wow way to take what I said out of context. But yes, except for the legs they are all the same. Have a nice day.
happymand 11 months ago
DONT SAY THAT!
zozenis 1 year ago
Still a little jerk in his push press, and not that much jerk in his jerk. ie his jerk and push press are too similar
funk192 1 year ago
I always thought it was funny that people call it a "push jerk"....cause how are you going to jerk without a push? haha. I prefer to call it a "power jerk." Nice video man, keep up the good work
PLoFresh 1 year ago
Oké thats nice to know, thnx dude
urhunted 1 year ago
beast.
d50111 1 year ago
anyone else think is hands are out kind of wide? maybe his body just works that way?
kettlebellconvert 2 years ago
@kettlebellconvert you have less distance to travel then, allows slightly more weight, same with bench
KebabTitan 1 year ago
glad i came here, very helpful video. its the wod
dangerosslee 2 years ago
Hey, cool! Thats the Crossfit WOD today
californication111 2 years ago
is it just me or does this video seem hilarious? lol
toxicwaste26 2 years ago 2
that now a fucking jerk press you jerk
MrJasonBkn 2 years ago
What the fuck is wrong with this clown MrJasonBkn???
1999drifter 2 years ago 5
perfect video
plank3000 2 years ago 3
Excellent video. Exactly what I was looking for for today's wod.
marcosdoliva 2 years ago 33
so is the only difference between the push press and push jerk a little more involvement with legs? clarify please, thanks
omar6182 2 years ago
With the Jerk you tried to lift the weight while you knees are bent to reduce the distance bar needs to travel thus creating the lifter the ability to lift more weight.
willis1116 2 years ago
In the Push Press, the lifter relies on upward lift through the glutes, hams and erector spinae while doing a shoulder press.
In the Push Jerk, the lifter drops into a half squat, presses the weight, locks his elbows for stiff arms and then relies on his glutes, hams and erector spinae.
Far better exercises exist for the athlete.
Use dumbbells or sandbags for the press.
Skip the push press and push jerk. Leave those for Olympic lifters who compete in a highly-specialized sport.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
great video.
BigVick26 2 years ago
This vid is useful! Thanks.
tanz83 2 years ago
Wow, we got some ignorant people commenting here. This is a great video, thank you and to all you chumps out there, pussies act hard over the net.
KaseemD 2 years ago
thats military press not shoulder press ?
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago
idk either they look the same to me
joshuab1815 2 years ago
A military press must have the lifter make his heels touch.
A shoulder press has the lifter stand with feet shoulder-width apart.
TruthAxe 2 years ago 2
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isnt military press when you're sitting down, though?
eamonob84 2 years ago
No.
TruthAxe 2 years ago 4
@eamonob84
"military" press is a retarded version of the press where you stand straight and tall and dont move anything except your arms, thus pushing the bar NOT directly overhead- a stupid and inefficient way to lift it. add the word "seated" to something to make it seated, usually.
This is simply the press, or overhead press, or shoulder press- though the word "shoulder" is redundant- how can you press anything without your shoulders?
you press it OFF your shoulders i guess...
kettlebellconvert 2 years ago
@kettlebellconvert
leg press, tricep press, calf press, neck press, finger press, toe press...
yaklord 1 year ago 13
@yaklord
what the hell are you talking about?
kettlebellconvert 1 year ago
though the word "shoulder" is redundant- how can you press anything without your shoulders?
yaklord 1 year ago
@yaklord
ah, well those are stupid muscle-isolating exercises i try not to think about since they are such a waste of time for virtually everyone.
kettlebellconvert 1 year ago
@yaklord Leg press.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
@kettlebellconvert good point, hahah.
tlast2O12dude 1 year ago
Extremely clear and straightforward. Thank you!
videocontestwarriors 2 years ago 5
omg GRATE VIDEO!! OMG AMAZING, now i get it!
tlast2012dude 2 years ago
I cannot refute you are dumb. Blatant sweeping generalisations such as your claims don't merit argument - only ridicule.
theTosh 2 years ago
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Push press = useless momentum that leads to wasted training time.
Push jerk = joint damage to elbows, hips and knees.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
TruthAxe = DumbAxe
theTosh 2 years ago 2
You amuse theTosh.
The world sees that you cannot refute truth so you resort to an ad hominem attack.
Good luck with your false belief living.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
I don't see many olympic lifters with damaged elbows, hips and knees.
tychver 2 years ago
And you researched the incidence of joint injury among Olympic lifters how exactly?
Also, Olympic lifters receive precise coaching on the techniques of OLs.
The typical gym rat or CrossFit kool-aid drinker lack supervision and coaching to make these lifts properly.
Outside of the sport of OL itself, none of these lifts adhere to the MEMR principle for proper athletic training crossing over to on-the-field peformance.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
Me? I didn't.
But these guys did, for 6 years:
Injury Rates and Profiles of Elite Competitive Weightlifters.
by: Gregg Calhoon, Andrew C C Fry
Journal of athletic training, Vol. 34, No. 3. (July 1999), pp. 232-238.
It's an interesting read.
They don't need crossover, they are gpp, sgpp at best. Plenty of throwers use squat jerks and push presses as a whole body explosive GPP exercise.
tychver 2 years ago 2
Great. So what is the incidence? Also, have you researched the incidence of joint injury among recreational lifters? If, so what is the incidence.
Have you compared the two incidences?
A key factor shall arise. Olympic lifters receive precise coaching on the techniques of OLs.
Other athletes and especially those workout in general end up lacking the coaching to make these lifts right.
Thus, reward outweighs the risk of permanent injury.
Better to push a wheelbarrow for GPP.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
i vehemently but respectfully disagree. what you are saying is your opinion only and most importantly, unsubstantiated and actually inefficient.
even though you are targeting your deltoids, it is beneficial to include push presses and push jerks because it mimics real world/ sports specific muscle usage. the power in, say, a punch depends on learning to use your entire body as a single unit , more specifically how to efficiently and fluidly move/ activate the specific kinetic chain.
skynet808 2 years ago
Exactly, in what sports and what specific action in those sports can you tell us these others exercises mimic besides your unsubstantiated claim?
A push press does not mimic a punch whatsoever.
However, doing a cable or resistance band thrust does.
A punch involves glutes, lats, delts, pecs.
Nice try though skynet. Is there something else which you want me to school you upon?
These are the kinds of injury-producing, low-payoff off exercises those clowns from CrossFit push.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
"school you?" don't get mad, "homie"
actually, it's about the same movement, and the pecs are minimally involved in both actually. i'm a post grad at Baylor in exercise physiology, and I'm kinda burned out from shop-talk as it is.
i'm not into cross-fit, but I'm sure it's a world better than your program. go do some preacher curls you obsolete cowardly prick.
skynet808 2 years ago
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Wow, your're bragging about being an indoctrinated moron from some poduck joke school that any asshole can gain entrance.
Meanwhile the purpose of the pecs is adduction and abduction of the arms you dipshit.
Oh, and since when are band thrusts that are the exact movement of a punch with resistance obsolete?
The world should pity anyone who has to pay you for your asshole-ish advice.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
it's ok. i forgive you.
skynet808 2 years ago
pedaso mierda. oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
kenialopez62 2 years ago
How nerdy is that? You write in Spanish, presumably "piece of shit" and then you write in English.
Make up your mind.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
my good man i am appalled that you would think i use foul language to get my message across. i my good man am a gentleman and have never used such dispicable words in my life. what i said in spanish was i concur with the statement sir. i believe an apology is in order sir!
kenialopez62 2 years ago 2
good comment ahahahahah!
hipoxantha 2 years ago
If you want to get better at punching you must punch more and learn to throw a punch better by analyzing and improving punching mechanics.
If you want to become stronger, you must work your muscles through resistance and eat more protein to grow muscle through microfibrillar hypertrophy.
Punching relies on isolateral glute, oblique, erector, lat, and rear deltoid with forearm torque.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
yes. That's the "Law of Specificity". If your aim is to improve punching power through myofibrillar hypertrophy ( which is much more permanent than vascular or "pump"), it would be faster to do exercises "explosively" with weight along with extra emphasis on form(light weight and low reps to prevent fatigue) and low rep/ max or close max weight.
To stay in your weight class, it would be better to practice your punch via neural efficiency. It's better to improve your power to weight ratio.
skynet808 2 years ago
Hey dork, an exercise doesnt have to mimic something for it to have carryover to. Push Presses develop power. This power will carryover to other endeavors.
Met666 2 years ago
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Hey backwoods retard.
No shit Sherlock. Why do you think athletes exercise?
You're one dumb fuck.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
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One more think, dumb fuck. PPs do not "develop power" as you moronically believe.
Power is work done over time.
The purpose of resistance training is to gain muscle strength, you dumb fuck.
With increased muscle strength a man might have more explosive release of max muscular force at max acceleration hence thrust.
Met666 (one of these moronic "devil worshippers") are you going to show the world some more how dumb you can be?
TruthAxe 2 years ago
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What does your dumbass lift? You sound like some armchair personal trainer with no actual strength. Thats why you dont believe in the Push Press. You probably think the deadlift is a waste of time too. Your little sensitive back couldnt handle those. Fuck off and go do your little bodyweight exercise faggot.
Met666 2 years ago
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You're reading text, idiot.
If persons "sound" anything to you when you're reading, you're hearing voices in your head.
You amuse though. Your anger exposes your deep insecurities about how weak you know yourself to be.
Go see a psychiatrist and get the help you need so desperately.
TruthAxe 2 years ago
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Saying "dumb fuck" every other sentence is why I would I want to kill you. A person's sound? What the fuck you talking about? You couldn't answer one question in my post. Little fuckin antagonistic coward. May death and disease be in your future.
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x00p3 2 years ago
very useful, thank you very much.
jggrmson 2 years ago
question on the push press:
Are you supposed to ride the bar up explosive with your chest in the beginning, and then once you're standing straight you push with your arms?
put another way, are you trying to gain momentum by somewhat "throwing" the bar up with your chest, or is supposed to rest completely on your hands.
drionshk 2 years ago
You dip into a partial squat position, reverse the movement by driving the hips, then use the momentum to press the bar over your head. Make sure your using your legs for the drive up, makes it much easier to work with heavier weights without misses!!!
gainera2582 2 years ago
Woho this is the todays WOD! GO GO!
Botuan 3 years ago
very useful vid! thanks!
Thrasher502 3 years ago
Great stuff
BeyondBerserk 3 years ago
There's a nice difference in a push press and a push jerk...i had trouble with those...thanks for the video
ArraTonks 3 years ago
Why is the shoulder press guy so damn slow. Just kidding. Great demonstration.
Traps59 3 years ago
Great technique in each exercise, bro ham.
ydlafams 3 years ago