Indoctrination Has Replaced Education

[blueyedone13]

I may not b able to homeschool my kid but I do teach him morals, values, and what it means to not be a selfish bully or someone who picks on other kids..he's 12 & is the 1st one to stand up for the little guy..I just hope it's enuff

[beyondalohas]

every detail of what went wrong with schools and can be fixed, is what ONLY liberals have done, as they mess up everything. what to do to fix?

is this rocket science? NO.. its always the wrong question and wrong answers.

GET THE SICKNESS OF LIBERALISM OUT, EVERYTHING IT TOUCHES IS A CANCER

[MissRiki1987]

I feel so depressed and worried of seeing my neices and nephews going to public school. With how bads the world is getting, even this once Christian based country, I thank GOD I never had children!

[TheBlitMaster]

@MissRiki1987 "even this once Christian based country" 30 of the 55 men who signed the Declaration of Independence were Deists, many of our greatest presidents such as Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln were deists. Our nation was never Christian, but it's much closer to being a Christian nation then it was back then.

[MissRiki1987]

Some teahers are biased meanees. I have seen some teachers mock students like another student would. I have also heard of some teachers abusing other students! We need the HOLY BIBLE back in school! We need GODly teachers to teach too. Please LORD protect these poor brainwashed students from the anti GOD lies and abuse!

[TheBlitMaster]

@MissRiki1987 You mean some bad teachers are still doing what every teacher was doing when we had the bible in our schools, though not anywhere near as extreme? Because back in the 50s teachers were allowed to beat the kids with a ruler, some of them even made their students bleed, and they certainly mocked their students as well.

[MissRiki1987]

@TheBlitMaster GOD will righteously judge them. JESUS HOLY CHRIST was, is, and never will be like that. There are so many un CHRISTlike so called christian's. Trust me, they WILL pay. GOD LOVES people even animal's to much too not punish those who hurt them. HE is LOVE! ;-]

[Vlaxerman343]

this video doesn't need to exist, because we have home school xD

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 Sadly

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation why is it sad? home is the one place kids can decide that they learn so they can differenciate from evolution to creationism and it's not like the parents are clue less, they get books from very respected companies

[CreationistCrap]

@Vlaxerman343 Their parents *are* clueless, there is no scientific alternative to evolution and they're being taught there is. No, they're getting books from people who have put creationism in a $2 tuxedo and called it ID.

[Vlaxerman343]

@CreationistCrap why don't check out some actualy famous homeschoolers BEFORE you make ill conceived arguments

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 What would that have to do with the fact that creationism is pseudo-science?

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation nothing but he was making fun of homeschoolers so i had to do something, and how are you so sure that creationism is the pseudo science and not evolution?

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 The fact that creationists have been unable to present a single hypothesis, workable mechanism or testable prediction and the fact that all that has been done for evolution many many times over.

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation the creationists haven't been able to present a hypothesis but a rather have been given a plot throughout the ages to the beginning of time, the Bible and even though their reasoning may seem silly considering the whole scientific community is obviously evolutionist and all others that disagree are cast out they merely say it's just stories even though they haven't even came up with a reason how the big bang happened

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 That's called presupposition, starting with the conclusion, which is a fallacy.

'all others that disagree are cast out'

Do you have an example of anyone who was 'cast out' for presenting evidence for creation or against evolution?

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation that's where you got me, but do you know of any creationist who was ever a very highly regarded scientist?

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 Sure, but that doesn't make creationism scientific by association.

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation hmmm you are right about that, now watch these videos and decide if creationists aren't the intellectual type

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 I have, and they certainly don't seem to be, this video is trying to correlate teaching evolution with a negative impact in school and society when the reverse is true in all other first world countries.

They're focusing on the wrong variable because it's not a constant only in the US

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation yes, but that is just how they are. They're Chistians and they take science to the Biblical side of things and see how it would fit most of the references in the Bible to match the time period and most of all the age of the earth

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 But they're not taking science to the biblical side, what they're doing is wholly antithetical to science.

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation hmmm you know that might be the smartest thing i've heard yet today but some of it is antithetical, you know what they do have though?

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 Whats that?

[Vlaxerman343]

@TheScienceFoundation power, UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAH xD sorry i just had to make a star wars reference it really lightened the mood

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Vlaxerman343 lol

That's not true either though, at beast christianity is and a standstill, realistically it's on the decline.

[thechessstick]

@TheScienceFoundation You really need to get a girlfriend. Is that what is wrong with you? You have never had one?

[TheScienceFoundation]

@thechessstick I'm not the one flinging personal attacks in the comment section of a youtube video.

[thechessstick]

@TheScienceFoundation Repent, turn to God, start going to Church and maybe you will get a girlfriend. I understand your frustration.

[thechessstick]

@Vlaxerman343 Hi again. I really mean what I am saying.  If you repent and turn to God and start going to Church. I think that there will be a lady for you.

[Vlaxerman343]

@thechessstick ummmmm and what made you think from my arguments i wasn't a Christian? who are you again?

[thechessstick]

@Vlaxerman343 Repent, turn to God, start going to Church and maybe you will get a girlfriend.  I understand your frustration.

[Vlaxerman343]

@thechessstick ???

[thechessstick]

Satan controls our secular schools and many parochial ones, too. Evolution is just a simple lie from Satan designed for those who don't know the Scriptures. Evolution is the bastion of the homosexual and the unrepentant sinner.

[jdheeter]

The levels of ignorance makes me feel sick to my stomach. 

ALLah? REALLY?

[TheScienceFoundation]

Correlation without causation, most other first world countries have some comparable amendment of separation of church and state. The fact is in almost no other first world country is religion so prominently shoved down peoples throats.

[thechessstick]

@TheScienceFoundation Satan controls the governments of this world. And now since schools are public he controls them, too. England is probably lost beyond recovery. Sad...

[TheScienceFoundation]

@thechessstick lol

[SofaKingLoaded]

@TheScienceFoundation Hehe..

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Of course the same can be said, and to a much more disproportionate extent, about evolution and other "scientific" theories.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful No it can't because evolutionary theory is not a worldview.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Yes, it is, and the invalidity of your statement can be statistically demonstrated. Evolution is a theory taught in all schools in Europe and, in order to safeguard you from other ill conceived "arguments", in my country in particular, you can be "cast out" for giving the students the alternative view. But I don't want to turn this argument into a mere contradiction, so you can have your opinion, I have mine.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful You mean you can be fired for bringing pseudo-science into the science class.

The validity of my statement is already statistically confirmed, the US is second to last, ahead of only Turkey, in public understanding of evolution, so accepting real biology obviously isn't the problem here.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation No, you got it wrong again, you can be fired for teaching real science (creationism). Pseudo-science i.e. evolution-ism, is forcefully shoved down people's throats. I don't want to insult your intelligence but I will venture the the suggestion that you reconsider the phrase "public understanding" and its bearing to proving or disproving a statement. Public understanding=truth? Even if it did, which it doesn't, should it be forced on people?

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful No, I had it right. Evolution is the only scientific explanation regarding biodiversity. It's not forced on anyone, it's taught in biology class where science should be taught.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Now you are stating a dogma without ANY scientific proof and by this your attitude is no different from any man-made religion. For your information, evolution is NOT the only explanation of biodiversity and it is certainly NOT scientific. I would refer you to the two basic principles of thermodynamics for starters and what you make out of it. In case you already have, our understanding of science differs and I suggest we agree to disagree. Good luck on Judgement Day, sir.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful If you want evidence for evolution, just name a field, genetics, anatomy, embryology etc. I'll provide mountains.

Yes, evolution is the only scientific explanation for the diversity of life on earth.

'I would refer you to the two basic principles of thermodynamics'

Ah, so you're new to the debate, it's rare to see anyone, even creationists, that still argue entropy.

It's not that our understanding of science differs, it's that I understand it and you don't

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation All you can provide is food for your delusions. But let's assume you understand science and I don't. Will you go back to your "science" now and leave real science to real scientists like Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Einstein, Max Planck and mountains of others?

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful Are you so deluded now that you imply scientists being religious makes religion scientific by association?

Sure they did real science, they didn't presuppose god in any of their published works.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful The second law of thermodynamics only applies to isolated systems, the earth is not an isolated system.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Of course not, in fact the whole universe is not an isolated system. God is the intelligent connection for intelligent people.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful Actually the universe is the only thing that could possibly be considered an isolated system.

Intelligent design is an emotional connection for people trying to do science from the position of creationism, which is why it fails.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation For this very reason evolution is nonsense. It contradicts this law in a most obvious way. Evolution has to be believed against all logic and reason of science. Unlike God Whom you can communicate to and be in constant connection with. Then you will know yourself the difference between right and wrong (creationism vs evolutionism, among many others). But I'm not forcing you to, I love you as you are because God's creation and you deserve respect and affection.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful 'It contradicts this law in a most obvious way'

No, creationists blatantly misunderstand this law in a most obvious way, the SLoT says that entropy increases in an isolated system, not that it must increase everywhere or that it can't actually decrease in smaller areas than the overall increase. Entropy is actually decreasing on earth as the result of the sun.

Evolution only takes a minor understanding of basic principles of science and avoiding strawmanning them.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Of course the slot says that, it's an evolution contaminated slot. Pls refer to creationist sources if you want to give yourself a chance for fair judgement.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Of course it says that, it is an evolution-biased slot. If you want to give yourself the chance for fair judgement refer to some creationist source, preferably to creation itself (that is, nature). It will tell you more of its Creator than any scientist (creationist or evolutionist) possibly could.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful 'preferably to creation itself'

begging the question, you haven't actually demonstrated that it is creation.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation You are right, I haven't, God has.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful That's certainly the assertion.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Right again!

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful And assertion isn't true just by dint of existing.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation What a brilliant and timely brainwave!

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful Now put the last 6 comments together

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation I was just going to suggest you do it!

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful Ok, lets see

>God has made creation

>thats the assertion

>right

>an assertion isn't true just because it exists.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation I was thinking of "Evolution is the only scientific explanation regarding biodiversity". An utterly untenable assertion be it only for the elementary premise that there can always be something we do not know or take into account.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful Oh, well in that case you're utterly wrong for the simple reason that science is an inductive process so saying 'something else may have had some part in it' is the meaningless assertion as that would imply deductive reasoning.

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation If I am wrong I have nothing to worry about after death. But if you are wrong you will have all eternity to bemoan your foolishness only it will be too late. Take this as an informed assertion if you will. May God bless you with repentance and regeneration that you so badly need although you probably don't know it yet.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful Wrong again

youtube.com/watch?v=v9WRG4e6m2­s

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation Like I said, if I'm wrong...cf the above post.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful And like I said, you're wrong again, what you're employing there is a fallacious line of reasoning known as Pascals Wager, it ignores other heavens it ignores other hells it's flawed on every level

youtube.com/watch?v=v9WRG4e6m2­­s

[Johananful]

@TheScienceFoundation And what you are employing is called Polly Parrot's method. It is resorted to when one runs out of own ideas.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@Johananful And now instead of just admitting you were using fallacious logic you resort to just plain being silly.

[thechessstick]

@Johananful TSF is just a doltish evolutard. He simply parrots evolutionist idiots like Sagan and Dawkins. Don't waste too much time on this love-starved young man. He can repent if he wants.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@thechessstick Again, only one of us is trolling on an internet comment board, and hint, it's not me.

[Johananful]

@thechessstick Thanks for the warning, brother.

[thechessstick]

@TheScienceFoundation Repent, turn to God, start going to Church and perhaps He will send a lady your way.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@thechessstick Again, I'm not the one insulting people online, so who is it you think looks more desperate?

[thechessstick]

@Johananful Don't waste too much time on TSF. He has a several youtube account and just tries to waste people's time. I have come to the conclusion that he is a lonely young man who really needs to repent and turn to God because he needs a girlfriend. I don't think that he is a homosexual. Although he may have found some support from a few of them.