Iv had them ten years and had to replace a tweeter, as the crisp sound from the desert eagle in counterstrike was wound a little too high and popped it,but if you know that game the gun sounds are heavenly! however £280 ten years ago and there still working good justifies that there not Sh*te! Sevenoaks sound an vision Manchester did the tweeter repair for £50 all in.
Bass I Love You is the ultimate track to test how low of a bass your speaker can handle. The OP clearly titled his video..... speaker excursion.... and not how define the B&W speakers are. Try it, if you are confident that your speakers are top notch, play Bass I Love you with volume at 12oclock. This track will move massive air starting from 9oclock on the dial.
the yellow fiber material in the speakers its kind of diamond stuff proces that appear to give a crystal sound?hope i can save 500,€ to buy two of those!
I have the exact same speakers, you'll ruin them doing that. I have a modest 50wpc Arcam amp and pushing them too hard at a party they started to smell then cut out, the woofer blew and it cost £60 odd quid for a replacement unit from B&W.
I don't use the EQ within winamp...it distorts the sound. Also I don't listen to 128 kbps .mp3s, 99% of my music collection is in .flac format and the rest of my collection is on vinyl. So fuck you.
@syugo If you care that much about audio quality then, why are you treating your speakers so badly? Judge them with music you listen to, and like, rather than lolololo bass testannnn
Geez I've said it a hundred times. This video does not mean I blast my speakers with rap/dubstep all day everyday ruining the drivers like I'm some idiot that does not appreciate the craftsmanship of B&Ws. This was an experiment to just physically see how amazing that craftsmanship is. I have a sub so I my B&Ws don't even wobble compared to this video. This song was chosen for it's low frequency sounds, not because I really enjoy it!
Looks to me like either you have the loudness button on your amp switched in or wow and flutter from a turntable. Either way it looks too excessive for them. Maybe you have the Bass control too high. Give em a break.
@cumesoftware From termpro.com's article on subwoofer design, "so the mechanical damping is poor, resulting in "hang-over" and lack of definition." Need I say more?
@cumesoftware Large excursions are not necessary for bass sound transfer. Large movements mean that a cone is moving not exactly in sync with the actual sound wave.
@cumesoftware Unknown brand? Clearly, you know nothing about speakers. Search for Eton and Electrovoice, retard. Electrovoice in particular is known the world around. The fact remains that floppy speakers that move a lot, like these B&W's, distort the music. A cone needs to accurately track the sound input (i.e. not be sloppy) in order to have clear transfer of music from electrical signals into sound waves. You need to study some physics, because it's clear you know nothing about speakers.
@cumesoftware You don't know anything about the principles of what makes good drivers. And, FYI, not everyone calls them drivers....some call them speakers. A good speaker/driver/whatever you want to call it does not need to be that floppy to sound good. In fact, that much cone motion causes distorted sound. I know a lot about speakers -considering I built my own. Eton woofers, Electrovoice horn midranges and tweeters. You should wisen up on your speaker knowledge, because it's lacking.
@syugo It's true....large cone excursions = distortion. The less the cone moves for a given bass sound, the cleaner the sound is. These speakers do not have the sound quality of a similar speaker that does not move as much.
Dude. Read the title of the video. This is an excursion, not an audiophile listening test. If you turn the volume up high enough, on ANY speaker, you will see what you call "distortion". The purpose of this video was just to show the response these speakers make to this particular infamous song.
@syugo You don't know anything about audio. Cheap speakers move a lot. Bass reflex designs with stiff cones don't need to move a lot....excursion or no excursion.
@meccaturbo Kevlar is one of the best materials for this job, but for bass you need 8" cone at least, thats why the speaker is flapping, its suited to mid range tones, thats why we have subwoofers. any 2 way speaker will move a lot if you chuck the right music at it.
@nicholias1 Not true. I have Eton (Deutschland) 8" woofers in my speakers....even with the bass turned full up, they don't move nearly as much as this B&W crap. The point is, good speakers don't need to move that much - and good thing they don't because it causes distortion.
@meccaturbo you just confirmed that you have a 8" woofer which was the point i was getting at, dedicate woofer and midrange will always sounds better. It's obvious you don't like bowers & wilkins, but they're a VERY respected brand and this happens to be their entry level series... and your knocking it for what?
@nicholias1 I like B&W, but I don't like their speakers that move a lot....it shows poor engineering. For example, Klipsch makes very efficient speakers that do not need to move a lot. They sound better (less distortion).
@meccaturbo the drivers of the woofer are not as large as a subwoofer... therefore, the cone most excurse more, to displace more air,... it dont relly have a choice.
@meccaturbo but thtats the thing, in order to have less excursion, u must increase the size of the driver. which again may not be practical at all in some appllications.
however tehre are some advantages for smaller drivers, i believe they can be more subtle and more controlled.
Hey man, just wanted to say that although I appreciate your thought provoking comments, I still don't think you truly understand what this song really is about. This song was specifically made to output frequencies under 10Hz. No other song right now (that I know of) will move those speaker cones the way this song does. I dare you to play this song on your speakers loud enough and take a video of it. Your speakers will respond in the exact same way. Don't knock it before you try it
This is true. If you had these speakers set up for a home entertainment system, which means a pretty decent sized room, then the bass on these speakers certainly won't suffice. But since they are just for my little room, it has the perfect amount of bass. To tell you the truth...when listening to music I HATE it when the bass is waaaay to loud. It takes away from the whole experience, you gotta balance this stuff out. Unless you want to be gansta...but then you listen to shitty rap.
@syugo good point...i had them hooked up to my av reciever at the time...now with my new stereo amp the bass is not too bad...i also dont like too much bass, actually this is why i didnt like that i had to use my subwoofer with these speakers...but now they are plenty bassy alone....very enjoyable speakers
You're breaking your speakers playing them that loud. When the driver makes big jumps like that instead of just vibrating it's hitting the back of the driver's basket. You need a subwoofer if you want to play your music that loud in your room.
Haha, it is definitely a .mp3 playing in the video. My crappy camera cannot handle the volume. But that's not really what this video is about. It's just for the movement.
If you are using bookshelf speakers mainly for mp3s, can I still use my 10 year old sony stereo receiver? Also, which bookshelf speakers do you recommend? My range is $100-$300
Yeah dude, I have a ~1972 Pioneer SA-9100 that I could use in this set up. As long as the receiver can receive sound and transmit it to the speakers you're all good.
As for recommendations, I'm not the best guy to ask as I haven't really looked around in that range. All I can say is Google is your friend!
I have only played this song about 4 times. Just so I can amaze myself at the pure beauty of these speakers. Now I am content that these speakers can take a beating. But I mostly listen to chill music like Zero 7, Ulrich Schnauss, Thievery Corporation, and of course some Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Grant Green stuff :]
The song isn't all that amazing to me, but the response these speakers make toward the song are enough to make me play it a few times.
Surely you're not saying that playing the song a few times for entertainment purposes degrades the valor and reputation of these speakers? It's all just some metal, plywood, and wires, making a sound we naturally hear as music. It's all bout how it is put all together to move air in such a way that we can instantly remember.
Your amp will fry , before any B&W speaker will !
r4m69 5 months ago
@dj54321kl Your an idiot , ( ? ) Your just an idiot !
r4m69 5 months ago
Iv had them ten years and had to replace a tweeter, as the crisp sound from the desert eagle in counterstrike was wound a little too high and popped it,but if you know that game the gun sounds are heavenly! however £280 ten years ago and there still working good justifies that there not Sh*te! Sevenoaks sound an vision Manchester did the tweeter repair for £50 all in.
D7eadnaught 6 months ago
@D7eadnaught
CS:S is was a favorite pass-time for many. The funny thing is I used to live in Sevenoaks UK
syugo 6 months ago
@dj54321kl they blew because your amplifier failed
paulusandronicus 7 months ago
i hope everyone knows that the sound is dubbed.
epiphonesg007 7 months ago
Bass I Love You is the ultimate track to test how low of a bass your speaker can handle. The OP clearly titled his video..... speaker excursion.... and not how define the B&W speakers are. Try it, if you are confident that your speakers are top notch, play Bass I Love you with volume at 12oclock. This track will move massive air starting from 9oclock on the dial.
RTwinTurbo 8 months ago
my cell phone speaker has better excurision than that
TheChrisey 9 months ago
@TheChrisey Go troll somewhere else.
monkey192100 7 months ago
People are so dumb. all they want is base base base...No that sounds crap. ans mate uve prob blown these by now, well dne.
fvresonanator 9 months ago
@fvresonanator I agree...these speakers doesn´t deserve a track like this,they deserve much better "tunes".
Maybe this guy should had just bought himself a pair of cerwin vegas instead eyy?
chrilla1980 9 months ago
the yellow fiber material in the speakers its kind of diamond stuff proces that appear to give a crystal sound?hope i can save 500,€ to buy two of those!
becooliusbulius 10 months ago
@becooliusbulius Also called kevlar bud ;)
chrilla1980 9 months ago
i bet the cameras vibrating
Hazsgs 10 months ago
Whats so special about these speakers?
TheCaramelflavour 10 months ago
@TheCaramelflavour B&W are known for making high-fidelity speakers.
syugo 10 months ago
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demarcos69 8 months ago
@TheCaramelflavour they're better then yours. thats whats special. LOL
krypekeeper 2 months ago
you have madd good mic
airsoftkid0102 11 months ago
@bluedroog Yeah I know, i haven't pushed my speakers this far since
syugo 11 months ago
I have the exact same speakers, you'll ruin them doing that. I have a modest 50wpc Arcam amp and pushing them too hard at a party they started to smell then cut out, the woofer blew and it cost £60 odd quid for a replacement unit from B&W.
bluedroog 11 months ago
@bluedroog Don't bother man. Sounds like this guy is the type that uses EQs within winamp, and listens to 128kbs mp3s.
pikachize 11 months ago
@pikachize
I don't use the EQ within winamp...it distorts the sound. Also I don't listen to 128 kbps .mp3s, 99% of my music collection is in .flac format and the rest of my collection is on vinyl. So fuck you.
syugo 11 months ago
@syugo If you care that much about audio quality then, why are you treating your speakers so badly? Judge them with music you listen to, and like, rather than lolololo bass testannnn
pikachize 11 months ago
@pikachize
Geez I've said it a hundred times. This video does not mean I blast my speakers with rap/dubstep all day everyday ruining the drivers like I'm some idiot that does not appreciate the craftsmanship of B&Ws. This was an experiment to just physically see how amazing that craftsmanship is. I have a sub so I my B&Ws don't even wobble compared to this video. This song was chosen for it's low frequency sounds, not because I really enjoy it!
syugo 11 months ago
@syugo Ah, that's okay then. I'm glad you appreciate B&W for what they are, and not just the brand.
pikachize 11 months ago
you should of played the same song on the video that you were playing when you were recording. IT sounds like that speaker is pounding.
how much did it cost?
acidfriend47 1 year ago
I would never do this to my Nubert speakers. You ruin them by turning the volume to max!
ryantedderfan 1 year ago
it keeps bluring
harrygoozee 1 year ago
@harrygoozee Yeah it's the auto-focus trying too hard
syugo 1 year ago
@syugo try getting a new camera
harrygoozee 1 year ago
BassHead damn! That gives me pity these B&W...
ThiagoPug 1 year ago
Looks to me like either you have the loudness button on your amp switched in or wow and flutter from a turntable. Either way it looks too excessive for them. Maybe you have the Bass control too high. Give em a break.
Fred196407 1 year ago
@Fred196407
It's because the volume is turned up almost to max. At normal listening volume they barely move.
syugo 1 year ago
@syugo no cuz on my dm601s2 they move at 60 db so stfu
dubsteprocks 11 months ago
@cumesoftware From termpro.com's article on subwoofer design, "so the mechanical damping is poor, resulting in "hang-over" and lack of definition." Need I say more?
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@cumesoftware Large excursions are not necessary for bass sound transfer. Large movements mean that a cone is moving not exactly in sync with the actual sound wave.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@cumesoftware Unknown brand? Clearly, you know nothing about speakers. Search for Eton and Electrovoice, retard. Electrovoice in particular is known the world around. The fact remains that floppy speakers that move a lot, like these B&W's, distort the music. A cone needs to accurately track the sound input (i.e. not be sloppy) in order to have clear transfer of music from electrical signals into sound waves. You need to study some physics, because it's clear you know nothing about speakers.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@cumesoftware You don't know anything about the principles of what makes good drivers. And, FYI, not everyone calls them drivers....some call them speakers. A good speaker/driver/whatever you want to call it does not need to be that floppy to sound good. In fact, that much cone motion causes distorted sound. I know a lot about speakers -considering I built my own. Eton woofers, Electrovoice horn midranges and tweeters. You should wisen up on your speaker knowledge, because it's lacking.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@cumesoftware
You should wait awhile until I upload the 720p version. The high speed camera captures the vibrations so well.
syugo 1 year ago
any speaker that shakes that much is garbage.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo
Haha, go on...
syugo 1 year ago
@syugo It's true....large cone excursions = distortion. The less the cone moves for a given bass sound, the cleaner the sound is. These speakers do not have the sound quality of a similar speaker that does not move as much.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo
Dude. Read the title of the video. This is an excursion, not an audiophile listening test. If you turn the volume up high enough, on ANY speaker, you will see what you call "distortion". The purpose of this video was just to show the response these speakers make to this particular infamous song.
syugo 1 year ago
@syugo You don't know anything about audio. Cheap speakers move a lot. Bass reflex designs with stiff cones don't need to move a lot....excursion or no excursion.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo
I'm gunna have to back out of this one. I have no time for bullshit.
syugo 1 year ago 2
@syugo you should, you don't know your speakers very well.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo Kevlar is one of the best materials for this job, but for bass you need 8" cone at least, thats why the speaker is flapping, its suited to mid range tones, thats why we have subwoofers. any 2 way speaker will move a lot if you chuck the right music at it.
nicholias1 1 year ago
@nicholias1 Not true. I have Eton (Deutschland) 8" woofers in my speakers....even with the bass turned full up, they don't move nearly as much as this B&W crap. The point is, good speakers don't need to move that much - and good thing they don't because it causes distortion.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo you just confirmed that you have a 8" woofer which was the point i was getting at, dedicate woofer and midrange will always sounds better. It's obvious you don't like bowers & wilkins, but they're a VERY respected brand and this happens to be their entry level series... and your knocking it for what?
nicholias1 1 year ago
@nicholias1 I like B&W, but I don't like their speakers that move a lot....it shows poor engineering. For example, Klipsch makes very efficient speakers that do not need to move a lot. They sound better (less distortion).
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo the drivers of the woofer are not as large as a subwoofer... therefore, the cone most excurse more, to displace more air,... it dont relly have a choice.
kboy3141 1 year ago
@kboy3141 It may not have a choice, but it still causes more distortion than the amount of distortion from a speaker that doesn't move as much.
meccaturbo 1 year ago
@meccaturbo but thtats the thing, in order to have less excursion, u must increase the size of the driver. which again may not be practical at all in some appllications.
however tehre are some advantages for smaller drivers, i believe they can be more subtle and more controlled.
kboy3141 1 year ago
@meccaturbo
Hey man, just wanted to say that although I appreciate your thought provoking comments, I still don't think you truly understand what this song really is about. This song was specifically made to output frequencies under 10Hz. No other song right now (that I know of) will move those speaker cones the way this song does. I dare you to play this song on your speakers loud enough and take a video of it. Your speakers will respond in the exact same way. Don't knock it before you try it
syugo 1 year ago
@syugo hey man , most amps dont produce freq under 20hz. therefore the speakers never get the proper hz for 10 hz.. thanks
myfagan 1 year ago
@myfagan
must admit, my mistake
syugo 1 year ago
Artist: Bassotronics
Song: Bass I Love You
syugo 1 year ago
Frequencies go through 5 Hz, to 26 Hz
Definitely you need a super sub to hear this "InfraSound" frequencies.
tiaagoo1 1 year ago
hey nice music.. can u name the soundtrack for me? Thanks
nameet12 1 year ago
weres the beat from
Lilpimp545777 1 year ago
what is the song ?
I love it
paulieGB1 1 year ago
these speakers bass are sooooooo lacking imo...hardley notice any bass without my subwoofer on....
Warzinak 1 year ago
@Warzinak
This is true. If you had these speakers set up for a home entertainment system, which means a pretty decent sized room, then the bass on these speakers certainly won't suffice. But since they are just for my little room, it has the perfect amount of bass. To tell you the truth...when listening to music I HATE it when the bass is waaaay to loud. It takes away from the whole experience, you gotta balance this stuff out. Unless you want to be gansta...but then you listen to shitty rap.
syugo 1 year ago
@syugo good point...i had them hooked up to my av reciever at the time...now with my new stereo amp the bass is not too bad...i also dont like too much bass, actually this is why i didnt like that i had to use my subwoofer with these speakers...but now they are plenty bassy alone....very enjoyable speakers
Warzinak 1 year ago
@Warzinak
Yea but one thing is these are not made for bass.. Plus i bet you these speakers cost more then your whole system..
xXORAnG3Xx 1 year ago
@xXORAnG3Xx
wow really? i find that to be imposible...im sure my nad c372 amp and my 602 s2 B&Ws are worth more than a pair of 602 s2....what do you think?
Warzinak 1 year ago
You're breaking your speakers playing them that loud. When the driver makes big jumps like that instead of just vibrating it's hitting the back of the driver's basket. You need a subwoofer if you want to play your music that loud in your room.
asherizm 1 year ago
@asherizm
Yea, that's why I don't play my music that loud. I only did this for youtube.
syugo 1 year ago
Either this speakers have the perfect quality possible (and your camera), or you just put the song over the video.... i think it's the second..
shigalbigal 1 year ago 2
@shigalbigal
Haha, it is definitely a .mp3 playing in the video. My crappy camera cannot handle the volume. But that's not really what this video is about. It's just for the movement.
syugo 1 year ago
If you are using bookshelf speakers mainly for mp3s, can I still use my 10 year old sony stereo receiver? Also, which bookshelf speakers do you recommend? My range is $100-$300
edge160 1 year ago
@edge160
Yeah dude, I have a ~1972 Pioneer SA-9100 that I could use in this set up. As long as the receiver can receive sound and transmit it to the speakers you're all good.
As for recommendations, I'm not the best guy to ask as I haven't really looked around in that range. All I can say is Google is your friend!
syugo 1 year ago
Thanks for the feedback. Also, is an integrated amp better than an a/v receiver for stereo? I deciding between Rotel and Marantz.
edge160 1 year ago
@edge160
I ended up with a receiver, but integrated amps are just as good. Especially if it's a Rotel or Marantz!
syugo 1 year ago
This song really has some bass.
Sadd that you used your B&w speakers for this.
Just get a good subwoofer from B&W and use that for the bass.
CobraProductionsTV 2 years ago
@CobraProductionsTV
Haha, I know.
I have only played this song about 4 times. Just so I can amaze myself at the pure beauty of these speakers. Now I am content that these speakers can take a beating. But I mostly listen to chill music like Zero 7, Ulrich Schnauss, Thievery Corporation, and of course some Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Grant Green stuff :]
The song isn't all that amazing to me, but the response these speakers make toward the song are enough to make me play it a few times.
syugo 2 years ago
They sure are lovely.and there made to last.but it's like giving the most beautiful woman in the world a hotdog.
CobraProductionsTV 2 years ago
@CobraProductionsTV
Surely you're not saying that playing the song a few times for entertainment purposes degrades the valor and reputation of these speakers? It's all just some metal, plywood, and wires, making a sound we naturally hear as music. It's all bout how it is put all together to move air in such a way that we can instantly remember.
Plus, it is awesome when you're baked.
syugo 2 years ago