There's no problem with anything that he's saying whatsoever.
There was a question about Obama's citizenship (as ridiculous as some may think it is, fact is the question simply exists). Prove them wrong and move on to more important things. End of discussion.
@7777Ralph Herman Cain didn't know that China ALREADY HAS NUKES, said he was going to prevent them from getting nukes. I kid you not. More embarrassing than the sexual accusations against him.
His mother was a US citizen. Case closed. And I don't even like Obummer. Maybe some of these people need to read the Constitution. If one of your parents is a citizen, therefore you are a birthright citizen. His father was Kenyan. If Obama was born in Kenya, with a US citizen for a mother, then he has dual citizenship in both countries. Cain is not the kind of guy you want to run the country if he doesn't even know this.
@MrStickhorse I see that a lot of people here do not understand the natural born citizen issue. Obama IS NOT a natural born citizen. He himself has acknowledged that he was a dual citizen at birth. You can't be a dual citizen and a "natural born citizen"....it would be an oxymoron. I'm glad that Herman Cain has an open mind about Obama's eligiblity..now that Sarah is out, I will be looking further into Herman Cain...this is a good start.
I want to see herman cains birth certificate. Ive seen Obama's reel birth certificate and it says he was born in a manger in Israel outside of bethlem.
It must have been his "reel" birth certificate, because it couldn't have been his REAL birth certificate. His real birth certificate is from Hawaii, and he has already released that.
Hermain Cain has no buisness discussing "consitutional Eligibility" especially after he said he would give people a test for office based on religion even though the constitution forbids it
And how do you feel about all of these experts coming forward and saying Borack Obomba's long form birth certificate was obiously forged by an amatuer?
no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Can you answer this. How can it be a forgery if the State Registrar signed it?
It is signed and sealed by the State of Hawaii so how can it be a forgery. You do know that with the signature it states by law that the Document is a valid Record?
So what method did they use to compile the record at the Health department in Hawaii?
There is no seal on the long form. Even if it had one, it could be the stamp of another document with a different name copied and pasted on it (which it is). The stamp has on Obama's has typo and a smiley face on it. Either way could easily be pasted on without the smiley face and typo using a different birth certificate.
They used other birth certificates from the state of Hawaii to manufature one for Barack Obama.
You don't understand law just like all the other Birther Nuts.
The Birth Certificate is signed and sealed and is a legal document sorry but you seem to believe the BS rather than the truth.
Oh it has layers Oh My. LOL ask your BS experts if they have ever seen anomalies created during scanning. Why yes so why is this case different because you can use the BS to fool idiot birthers.
So dots, boxes, squiggles, dots , lines and random garbage was created by the program.
@YTRedActed The birth certificate IS NOT sealed you idiot.
Tell me where the seal is.
The BS experts go over the layers and confusion over OCR layers in detail and you can go listen to one on my page now and he explains it all. Go listen to it and tell me where he is wrong. (you won't)
I don't need to listen to experts I use scanning equipment myself so what they tell you is that the PDF was made in adobe illustrator. LOL So What. Can they tell you how the copy they scanned was produced were they present at the Health Department? Just because a scanner produces anomalies doesn't prove that the copy that they are scanning is not a legal binding document signed and sealed by the Registrar of the State of Hawaii.
@YTRedActed If it is on the back why can't we see the impression? Answer: It isnt on the back.
The guy who was taking about this created scanning programs he knows everthing about them. This is only ONE of several things that are wrong with Obama's BC. Doug Vogt has ten points that he gave to the F B I. Doug Vogt knows everything about it GO LISTEN TO HIM. You are a lil scrub. This dude is an expert and so is Paul Irey. We KNOW his BC has letters from different type writters too.
Information on the actual paper copy of the Obama Birth certificate.
hawaii(dot)gov/health/vital-records/obama(dot)h t m l
You do understand that Mr Vogt's whole theory is that there is no tangible paper copy but that the White house created the Birth certificate on the website. So with all the evidence that indeed a paper Copy was presented not just one but two copies Mr Vogts whole theory doesn't hold water.
@YTRedActed Yeah she said she saw it. Good for you! You found another word of mouth.
I however can see the document with my own eyes and there is no impression. Too bad huh?
And NO that is not his theory. He said the White House didnt do anything to the document, he said it was likely manufactured in Hawaii by someone with access to other Hawaii birth certificates.
The State of Hawaii is now part of the Conspiracy LOL.
Man you people never give up.
So every press release, every Person who has said it exist are part of a Conspiracy?
So the Governor who was a Campaign Manager for the McCain Camp said it existed because?
It is impossible for you to accept facts. They invented a Time Machine and put announcements in two papers. Everyone is Lying.? Yep Time Machines but they couldn't buy a 1961 typewriter for 30 bucks off Ebay.
@YTRe The state of Hawaii was always the suspect involved in this issue. Why do you think we said we wanted the long form and didnt trust the short form?? 'durrr'
We won't give up until justice is served.
What does a press release have to do with the legitimacy of a document 3 people on earth have ever actually seen?
The Governor Neil Abercrombie said he couldnt find it.
You are a drone. You have no ability to critically analyze and when something is suspect its our fault for asking.
Listen you remember who the Governor of Hawaii was?
Why it was Linda Lingle who worked for the McCain Campaign you also know who is one of Linda Lingle's good friend is why it is Sarah Palin you remember Sarah Palin don't you she was the Vice Presidential Candidate during the same Campaign that Linda Lingle was working on.Now why would a Republican Governor who worked for McCain is good friends with Sarah Palin forge a BC for Barack Obama?
Also Abercrombie never said the Birth Certificate didn't exist. He sad that he couldn't release the Birth certificate by law. He actually said he found a written bound record that was not considered an official record with the birth listed and was seeing if he could release that.
If you keep reading BS rags like the World Net Daily this is what you get BS.
You create BS from actual facts. Two birth Announcement posted by the Health Department in 2 newspapers in 61 a fact.
@YTRedActed He said all he could find was a "notation written down".
You don't even have the slightest clue what you are talking about. The two birth announcements didn't say he was born in Hawaii. It just said he was born and it gave the address to his grandparents house. Was he born there in their house? There are no hospital records.. why did you think that is?
I like how these morons on the blogs say, "We called all the Hospitals and they told us there are no Hospital Records for Barack Obama or his Mother."
So the stupid ignorant Birthers all go see no Hospital Records See See See he wasn't born here.
But what the stupid ignorant Birthers don't understand is that any Hospital would give the same answer "WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCLOSE HOSPITAL RECORDS" So the stupid ignorant Birthers all go see see see all the way home.
Does that explain how ignorant Birthers are? Abercrombie isn't looking for the Birth Certificate because he can't by law release it he is looking for some other record that can be released. So that to Ignorant Birthers means there is no Birth Certificate.
@YTRedActed - "It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said. "
He is TOLD? Written down? Investigation?
The fucking governor needs to be told Obama's birth was written down after he could find it and he had an investigation? The governor had to do all of that to find something written down? Now all of a sudden presto! There it is!! Yeah fucking RIGHT dude. And this one is fake. Period.
Yes he was referring to the State Vital Records held in the State Archives there was a reference written down for births sorry if you can't understand what people are talking about.
Birth Certificates are held by the Department of Health. He already knew he couldn't release the Birth certificate or don't you understand that? So what they were looking for was some other record that could be released. But State Attorney General David Louie told him nothing could be released.
You seem to be extremely dense. I guess that is why you are a Birther they need people who can't think critically so they can twist words as I have shown above, Hospitals can't disclose medical records so to Birthers that means Obama wasn't born there. The Governor can't release Birth records so that means there is no Birth Certificate.
Are you really that ignorant?
Because Corsi, World Net Daily, Alex Jones, and Orly of course she is a moron want you to believe their BS
@YTRedActed Yeah. It's me not you huh? Is that what you tell yourself?
Why can't they disclose medical records? Obama's mother is deceased they arent under any obligation to protect her rights. She is dead she has no rights. The Governor said he couldnt find it and he could only find a notation written down that means he doesnt have it yeah. The Governor of Hawaii said he wanted to put this issue to bed and then he made himself look like a stooge. Then they created a fake BC.
You seem to have a comprehension problem,. The Governor wasn't looking for the Birth Certificate. Why because they could not release it. What they were looking for was some piece of evidence that they COULD, notice COULD is in Upper case, release.
Is that easier to understand? What they found was a record of births in the State Archives. The Attorney General deemed it NOT, notice the upper case again, NOT releasable.
Dead People have no rights? Are you really that ignorant?
Tell you what give me the names and where your relatives are buried so I can go dig them up because dead people have no rights.I guess when you die you would like your medical records thumbed through by perfect strangers right? Hey look here he had a Venereal Disease when he was twenty.
Are you like ten or something. Seriously I feel like I am talking with a child.
They have no right to hospital records. Do really have to explain everything to you fucking idiots? When I die, do you think I give a fuck about that? How would I? She doesnt have any records. You don't need to see her records only the time and date of entry. We know when Michael Jackson went to the hospital and everything in his blood and now everyone in the world knows he was a drug additct. Is that fair?
You seem to be confusing a Court hearing about the possibility of Medical negligence as Mr Jackson having no Patient Doctor Confidentiality. Also a High Profiled Death usually does result in an autopsy report.
Once again you don't understand they do not release information. Just as when Mr Limbaugh went to the Emergency room in Hawaii. They could not release information. That is why there was so much speculation, A Drug Overdose, A Heart Attack?
@YTRedActed I think my president is usurping his office in my country and there is mountains of evidence to support that belief. You just defend anything him no matter what. Are you his bitch or do you get paid to defend him? Who needs to get a life here? lol
You do his chores and he looks down at you and laughs. Trust me. He lies non stop and because he knows his little lap dogs will coral the population with accusations of hate so he can get away with it. You are his towel boy.
@KingDingaLing090 Mountain of evidence LOL Really Do you not understand that all you have are Liars who are in no position to determine anything. Orly Taitz Liar Tim Adams Liar Jerome Corsi Liar Alex Jones Liar Mountain of evidence such as?Nada You need to get back to school because your spelling is atrocious. I have had to correct you on everything you said from the Constitution not supporting a religious test to your ignorance of the Hawaiian Governor search. Have a nice Day
@YTRedActed Oooh my spelling? Oh no!!! ----> "Taitz Liar Tim Adams Liar Jerome Corsi Liar Alex Jones Liar Mountain of evidence such as?Nada" <---- Look at your grammar you illiterate fuck. These arent errors like mine you just don't even know how to write.
"Nada"??? You fucking faggot. Who is Tim Adams? Who pays you to troll birther vids?? Get a fucking life you weird illiterate douce nozzel.
LOL I asked for your mountain of evidence. If there was really a mountain of evidence then they wouldn't continue to throw every case out. "WE WANT TO SEE HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE>"
Judge. "What is your evidence he wasn't born in the US?"
"WE HAVE THREE FAKE KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATES AND A BUNCH OF BS"
Judge, "Case Dismissed."
You asked how Herman Cain was in violation of the Constitution I answered I hope you learned something Because you don't understand the Law.
@YTRedAct We saw his long form birth certificate you idiot. And it is FAKE. That is the evidence that he wasn't born in America. His mothers signature was created with a computer. The father's race is African. The letters all came from different typewriters. The signature stamp has a spelling error. It doesn't have a seal. It shouldn't have a green background. On the words near the binding some a curved and the ones under them are not. There is a halo around the letters. And it goes on & ON & ON
And the Judge says, "Sorry but this is a signed and sealed Birth Certificate issued by the State of Hawaii. And per the Full Faith and Credit Clause under the Constitution of the United State is is deemed a Legal Document. It makes no difference how the Certificate was produced even if it was written on toilet paper. If you have no evidence that proves His Birth Occurred Elsewhere. Case Dismissed."
That my friend is the Law not hype about anomalies produced by a software program.
@YTRedActed Lol What judge said that?? Are you a judge? No your just a basement hero with a collection of Red skitles. Now you are just lying you fucking faggot.
What Judge said that any Judge that you take this BS to.
Let me get this straight your evidence is that the PDF posted on the web has anomalies that were created by the Software during the scanning. Now is that all?
So you will take this to the Supreme Court get serious.
Do you not understand your own ignorance educate yourself and don't depend on these morons that want you to buy their Books, T-shirts, and the rest of the BULL SHIT they shove down your throat.
@YTRedActed What Judge? NOO Judge you stupid prick.
What? No, you don't even know what I just said. Why are so protective of Obama in first place? Why do you sit around all day and defend him? Are you one of Soros's little puppet's or what? Nothing I say will have any impact on you whatsoever because I am talking to an employee.
Ooooh you can say "educate" and "ignorance" do you feel intelligent now? You are a fucking traitor if you are even American. GTFO of my country puppet boy.
Seriously do you know anything about Mr Vogt? Well let me clue you in Doug Vogt is a wacko that thinks we are living in several different dimensions at the same time. Yep he is a multidimensional reality nut.
He also believes he has found Mt Sinai where Moses spoke to God.
So I guess he is now going to try and cash in on this BS.
Herman Cain is the former Chairman and member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. I promise you, he is just another puppet for the Fed. He doesn’t give a darn about the Constitution, which explicitly states in Article 1 Section 8 that the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof is given to CONGRESS!! NOT a private, for-profit organization like the Federal Reserve. If Herman Cain gets elected, he will inflate us into HYPERINFLATION!!! Ron Paul 2012
The birther movement is officially dead, Obama has put all of you to shame by releasing his birth certificate, you all should dismantle your stupid websites
@viokand not really. i'm not big on the issue or would consider myself a birther, i thought the whole thing was a distraction from the issues and wanted it to be over. however, i saw that "birth certificate" the administration released online and that thing looks like a terrible photoshop job. look at it for yourself. i'd still rather focus on the economy and his war crimes that he criticized the last crappy president for, but anyone who doesn't worship this guy should see something fishy.
@viokand I guess your head is stuck so far up your ass that you are just as lost now as you were last year when we kept asking for his real BC.
The birther movement is on exploding with evidence that Obama's long form was forged and he has been using a fake social security number for 20 years. Take YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!!!
@KingDingaLing090 You really think he was born in Kenya? and was immediately shipped back to the US to have his birth recorded in Hawaii, announced in two Hawaiian newspapers and now you are accusing the state of Hawaii of forging his long form birth certificate to legitimize him as natural born? you are a dumb ass, you should have your brain examined, honestly I will like to sell you some snake oil b/c I know you will buy it, please get yourself off the hate radio talk shows and websites.
@viokand I don't know where he was born. I know he doesnt have a birth certificate and he has been using a dead guys social security card for 20 years. His birth wasn't recorded in Hawaii. The newspaper never said he was born there, they announced his birth. His grandarents had a grandchild and the paper anounced it. I am accusing someone in the sate of Hawaii of forging a birth certificate yes. Why is that so hard to believe? The most powerful postion on earth is at stake. Do you want evidence?
@KingDingaLing090 How come you know Barack Obama's social security number and how many previous presidents social security numbers do you Know? do you know it is illegal for you to acquire someone else s private document without his permission? In your little brain, Barack Obama does not have a birth certificate because you have chosen not to believe anything that he puts out there, OK. all the birth announcements I read in the daily paper over here are actually of people born in planet X. DUMB.
@viokand Because he used it to get his house in Chicago and debt collectors have independently looked into it and they all came to a conclusion. When they asked the white house press secretary why he has been using it he changed the subject and giggled nervously. Obama is a felon. Yeah that is what I am saying to you. No computer expert ever said the BC is authentic, on the other hand dozens of computer experts have come out and said it is clearly fake and SO fake that it is unbelievable.
@KingDingaLing090@KingDingaLing090 Obama was vetted by both the independent electoral commission and the FBI. and was cleared to run for president, how come they didn't see all these anomalies? perhaps you are better than the FBI in investigation, how many previous presidents have you investigated? why don't you just admit it, tell the whole world that you are driven by racism and hate?
@viokand Prove he was vetted by the FBI and what independent electoral commision? The leadership is political and they have been for a long time. The FBI hasn't came forward and investigated the fake SS# or debunked it. And neither has the White house.
In the end you resort to accusations of hate. You can't legitimately debate the issue so you personally attack anyone that challenges the reality of your fantasyland. What a shallow minded coward you are! lol
Cain is a joke. He said that government doesn't create jobs...
Tell that to your local police, fire, educator, etc., etc.
What a pathetic right stupid ass joke - and all those anti-Americans excited about him can take off to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan where they will be more comfortable with other anti-Americans.
What an absolute fraud!Another RepubliCON ,Corporate Pimp!Rightwing ,Trickle Down,Voodoo Economics is the biggest lie perpetuated on America and the reason for our Debt Crisis through this continuous Bust and Boom ,Corporate Wall Street Ponzi Scam that has BANKRUPTED AMERICA over the last 30 years!$12 Trillion ,that's 85% of our National Debt is attributed to the RepubliCONS , Ronnie Reagan and the Bush's!
its always a shame to see a black man tomming and shucking and jiving for scraps off the white mans table. what are you go to do when they ask to see YOUR slave papers, herman?
Herman Cain is a moron, he's "pro-life", which nobody supports. No wonder he lost in the polls. Taking away a woman's rights is no acceptable, it shows the person is dishonest and against American freedom.
O'Reilly and Beck are owned by FOXNEWS, FOX is owned by Saudi Arabia. They do what their bosses tell them. Both are traitors! Go to Peter Boyles, Jerome Corsi, Jack Cashill, Rev, James Manning for the truth. Also: Her Name is Ms Ann. Let Manning tell you the truth. Stop this illegal, homosexual, muslim . God bless America, and Trump.
@grendelee - EXACTLY! Who freaking cares how much he weighed or how long he was at birth, the only thing that matters is WHERE he was born and the State of Hawaii has confirmed, verified, sworn on oath and signed that he was BORN in Honolulu. What else do these morons want?
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Congress even passed a LAW (HR573 - 111th) that confirmed he was born in Hawaii.
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So all that is left is a couple of uneducated, redneck, republican racists from the south who disagree.
Barack admits he goofed off at Occidental College but has not explained how he transferred to Columbia. He did not graduate with honors from Columbia yet got into Harvard Law School. How? He refuses to reveal his SAT scores, LSAT score, and college transcripts. The media wanted voters to think he is a supergenius so the media never probed into this even though they demanded such info from McCain, Gore, Dubya, and Kerry.
Any Politian whom has legally sealed their own records is" DECEPTIVE" They do not want you to know 'who" they are and what they have truely accomplished or failed at including their personal agenda and idealogies!
Demand quality in your choices when you elect a canidate something that didn't happen pertaining to Obama in 08
See "The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth" at puzo1.blogspot.com 2009 09 natural-born-citizen-clause-requires html
Obama's father was NEVER EVER an American citizen. Therefore, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN, OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA! Obama knows this point perfectly well, as he studied law at university! He consciously lied to the American people!!!!
@dianddra999 Cains the man. But can he beat Obama? Could he even win in the primaries? I kinda think Cain is another Ron Paul type. Hes exactly what we need. But exactly what we have absolutely no chance of getting. Thats why im voting for Trump. Not only is Trump, for all intents and purposes, Just as good a candidate as Paul or Cain or Romney hes actually got a VERY good chance of winning. No democrat or independent will EVER vote for any of the previous three. But tons will vote for Trump.
To be the President of the USA, the Constitution of the USA indicates that he must be "a natural born citizen". To be a natural born citizen, he MUST meet 2 conditions:
1) he must be born in the USA.
2) he must be born of two American parents.
Both conditions are required!
1) is NOT met, as Obama never showed a LONG FORM birth certificate!
2) is IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET, as Obama's father was NEVER an American!
Hence, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and is NOT eligible to be President of the USA!
@micdagreat1 We should impeach him, convict him in the senate. Overturn all of his legislation by default, since his signing of it into law was unconstitutional. Then we should prosecute him in a criminal court for both fraud and high treason. He should be convicted and executed. Thats my opinion :)
@Porojukaha great comment if they proved he was Kenyan all his legislation would be overturned anything he put a pen to would be voided but I dont think any charges would be executed . I think he would be pardoned. Its hard to believe but there are alot of people that think he is the best thing that ever happened to this country, He just sent a vid/ to his delgates and told them we need to concentrate on the black/latino vote I guess he forgot about the 41%white voters he got in 08 he a raciest
@michaelhtvr Okay smart guy,where did the mother meet the father,Hawaii or Kenya?Did she fly a plane back to the States or catch a boat?Did she call in the announcements or did they Department of Vital Statistics call them in?Do you know how CRAZY you sound??
Where’s my perks? Obots didn’t get any either. Barry promised to pay our gas and mortgage. He promised to bring all the troops home by summer of 2009. He promised to close Gitmo. How many have been fulfilled to date? ZILCH. America was punked. Here is what we did get, high gas prices, high food prices, new war to fight. An oil spill that gushed for months polluting the ocean while Barry played ball and traveled.
5 trillion more in Debt
Having the time of his life while the country goes to sh*t.
I'm confused, I thought your beef was with his birth place, now you say he didn't pay your gas bill. I thought you always wanted gitmo open to torture people, now you're mad he left it open to try terror?
Make up your mind buddy! You can't fight his policy while claiming he's an alien, sue the alien like you're suppose to. LMAO
Dammit Obama.....just resign already!!! We all know that you're a goddam fraud !!! Just LEAVE, will you??.....So we can clean up the mess you've made with your Lord and Master George Soros. Just hand it over to Biden and go back to Chicago to be with your corrupt brood. Even though we can't stand Biden either, at least we know that the old toothy geezer was born on U.S. soil !
Factcheck just got caught committing forgery and removed the "obama certification" from their site on 4/3/2011
Do people realize that the Obama Campaign only recognizes the small, cropped image (585 x 575) as being Obama’s “official” birth certificate?Not the Factcheck copy or photosNot the Politifact copy. Not the Daily kos copy.
The Obama Campaign NEVER sent any image copies out to anyone.
It is known who made the original forgery. What's also known is the chain of custody of all the images
I just went on Factcheck and saw it for the 100th time 5 minutes ago. so I do not know where you are getting your infomation buddy. YES I am looking at it at this very moment online on Factcheck's site. at 10:11 am eastern time, April 4 2011.
@SEEPRICE What you're seeing now are the new and improved 585 X 575 versions. They had to replace the old images they had up for approx 2.5yrs. You're obviously not aware of the change, all images last night were down, as they were told to remove and replace them or they would be cited for forgery and fraud.
No big deal, screen shots had been taken of the old forged docs.
Watch, it will explain what they did. Enjoy: /watch?v=BbpjYeZXaVs
so let me get this straight. with all the overwelming evidence that obama was born here (COLB, 2 state officials' statements. pics from fcheck and scanned, birth anouncements) no one providing evidence to the contrary besides inuendo. now with ALL that evidence you take the evidence of a random youtube blogger as proof that Fcheck had a forgery?
ok werent birthers embarrased enough from Ron Polarik/pollard's being caught lying about the "fake" BC? admit it, you just dont like him
The fact that a birth announcement was or was not in the newspaper has nothing to do with Obama’s official Hawaiian Long form birth certificate. It's already been established Hawaiian newspaper announcements at the time were generated by the Department of Health.The DOH has also confirmed you could register a birth with a mail order form signed by the Mother or Grandmother, a vital statistics record is created, which generates a newspaper announcement. Announcements do not verify Natural Born.
why do the people like Hannity,Oreilly and Fox news the people who should be digging ignoring this for the last 2 years,even laughing and scorning us birthers making fun of us ,when this is violation of the laws,we have Rangel and Geinter and other who think they are above the law,did you know that congressmen s kids are exempt from paying their student loans,the corruption stinks to high Heaven
Hermain Cain should prove that he is not 3/5 of a person. It's bad enough when @sshole Trump is pushing the birther BS but its worse when people like Hermain (who should know better) are cosigning these birther @sses.
To be the President of the USA, the Constitution of the United States indicates that the POTUSA must be "a natural born citizen". To be a natural born citizen, the POTUSA MUST meet 2 conditions:
1) The POTUSA must be born in the USA.
2) The POTUSA must be born of two parents who are American citizens.
Both conditions are required!
1) is NOT met, as no LONG FORM birth certificate was shown.
2) is NOT met, as Obama's father was NEVER EVER an American.
you should verify your information before posting. It shows your ignorance. HI only issues a COLB. It has the same function and acceptability as what (not all) states call a BC.
the name of the document is not an issue because it has the exact same relevence and meets all federal guidelines
saying that HI's COLB is not the equivelent of NY's BC is like saying that NY's DMV is not the Equavelent of GA's DDS
so before making an uninformed statement, do some research
@SEEPRICE "I can find them both on a 2 second google search. maybe you should try it.
factcheck has photographed and posted it online"
No need to get snarky, perhaps you should google up "Obama's garden/wordpress and take an up close peek at your F-check's version of the "online internet" version of this document F-check purports as "legal" proof. Pay close attention to F-checks INCISED seal vs. a legal RAISED seal. Check Hawaii's own claim to legal vs forgery. F-check has committed forgery
that is one of the biggest loads of Bull that I have heard online in a while.
HI official, dept of health dir under Gov Linda Lingle has come forth in a press statement that Obama has a BC on file at the HI dept of Health. but for some reason, you say fact check forged it. oh and do not forget that WND (birther anti Obama news faction) even verified that the BC on Factcheck was NOT forged
point is that WND is the only (quasi) media source who gives you people credence and even they had to say It is not forged like YOU claim from a blogger site (word press).
I watched the video... are you sure you did, because she explicitely says that SHE is not allowed to but the she says the dir of health and registrar are, watch your own linked video at 55 seconds.
@SEEPRICE Yes I did hear that as well, my point was Lingle's reiteration. You did bring up a good point though, let's examine it. Lingle states"they personally viewed the original record' yet, Politifact actually has Okubo on the record denying that the electronic COLB image provided by the Obama campaign can be authenticated by her or by anyone at DHOH.
@SEEPRICE Remember, the COLB has only a "Filed" state and not an "Accepted" state. Until it's accepted by the registrar it's nothing.Hawaii also confirmed Obama’s "vital records" have been amended.
Furthermore your reference to "you people", you assume I'm what? I was a registered Democrat at the time of the election. In my state I cannot vote for anyone other than the party nominated candidate, so guess who I voted for? Right! I'm well aware of the game, I used to play it.
I assume you are a birther, which you are. you can make a point a bit better than most of them though but the problem is that Birthers do not really want to know the truth. and look for any technicality, no matter how small or absurd and run with it, or omit key elements of statements or written policy.
Fukino stated he has one on file and was born in HI, photographs of it on Factcheck show the seal, and registrars signature, Cert no etc. I think there are about 8 pictures of it
@SEEPRICE It is YOU that should verify your information before spreading DISinformation. Hawaii DOH already stated on the public record that they could release Obama's "vital records" with Obama's CONSENT. Which he REFUSES to do.
What does the State Department webiste say about short-form COLBS; "Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes."... travel.stateDOTgov/passport/get/first/first_830.html#step3first
@BirtherReportDotCom Why do these "leaders" refuse to research Obama's BC!?!? I don't get it. They proudly admit they have never studied the issue, and I'm not talking about Cain, he's a stand up guy, but still. MAJOR media networks, and sly dogs (like Beck, Oreily, Van Sustren, Laura Ingrahm etc.) the lame stream rats, wont ***study** it. And they are proud to ***not** do their job, to ***not be informed*** on the most scandalous issue in American History. It even took Trumpster 2 years wtf?
@KingDingaLing090 -Because they are covering their asses for not doing the job they should have done in 2007 when Obama AKA Soetoro first announced his candidacy. They are all in full damage control mode.... What they underestimated is the power of the internet...
really, because I have only a short form and I used it to get my passport. what YOU are doing is sending out disinformation either purposely or because you choose to only research the information that lends credence to your theory and not that which proves the oposite.
I on the other hand looked up information from both sides
I note that you never mention that a person can get a HI COLB if they were born in shanghai but that COLB would show the Place of birth as shanghai
Obama refuses to allows any more continuance to the budget, tea party republicans have less than a week to come to the table.
...and what are birthers yapping about?? You are not helping yourself buddy, by the time you snap outta your fantasy Obama will be getting inaugurated... FOR THE SECOND TIME!
I just told you why it's going to happen. Just because you say "don't count on it" doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Being a birther or a tea bagger is not enough.
I know it hurts but I'm sorry you're going to have to take it like a man this time too.
@mindoermatta personally i think that Trump has hard evidence that Obama wasnt born in this country. Hes just waiting for the right time to relase that info. If he does, the only chance Obama has of getting reelected is if Trump is assassinated before the election. Which, thankfully, wont happen though some liberals might actually try it.
@Porojukaha Any Politian whom has legally sealed their own records is" DECEPTIVE" They do not want you to know 'who" they are and what they have truely accomplished or failed at including their personal agenda and idealogies!
Demand quality in your choices when you elect a canidate something that didn't happen pertaining to Obama in 2008!
I agree to you Trump already has proof , Trump said he would spent 600 mil of his own $ on the race.
Herman Cain gave a reasoned response. Let's hope Mr Cain reads House records of 1866,14th Amendment Author, Abolitionist, Congressman John Bingham: "... declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…." Obama's father owed allegiance to Britain and Kenya, making Barack ineligible.
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jackiecastro410 1 month ago
This video went viral on Georgia
perryhanson1128 2 months ago
There's no problem with anything that he's saying whatsoever.
There was a question about Obama's citizenship (as ridiculous as some may think it is, fact is the question simply exists). Prove them wrong and move on to more important things. End of discussion.
jaydubshow 5 months ago
My view of cain has shot up big time from only 2 videos.
7777Ralph 5 months ago
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@7777Ralph Herman Cain didn't know that China ALREADY HAS NUKES, said he was going to prevent them from getting nukes. I kid you not. More embarrassing than the sexual accusations against him.
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vechorik 4 months ago
His mother was a US citizen. Case closed. And I don't even like Obummer. Maybe some of these people need to read the Constitution. If one of your parents is a citizen, therefore you are a birthright citizen. His father was Kenyan. If Obama was born in Kenya, with a US citizen for a mother, then he has dual citizenship in both countries. Cain is not the kind of guy you want to run the country if he doesn't even know this.
MrStickhorse 5 months ago 2
@MrStickhorse I see that a lot of people here do not understand the natural born citizen issue. Obama IS NOT a natural born citizen. He himself has acknowledged that he was a dual citizen at birth. You can't be a dual citizen and a "natural born citizen"....it would be an oxymoron. I'm glad that Herman Cain has an open mind about Obama's eligiblity..now that Sarah is out, I will be looking further into Herman Cain...this is a good start.
smokeyriverband 5 months ago
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Ron Paul 2012!
lodziana666 5 months ago
I want to see herman cains birth certificate. Ive seen Obama's reel birth certificate and it says he was born in a manger in Israel outside of bethlem.
TheCaliCapitalist 7 months ago
@TheCaliCapitalist
It must have been his "reel" birth certificate, because it couldn't have been his REAL birth certificate. His real birth certificate is from Hawaii, and he has already released that.
abnercalegari 5 months ago
Hermain Cain has no buisness discussing "consitutional Eligibility" especially after he said he would give people a test for office based on religion even though the constitution forbids it
Sagefrakrobatik 8 months ago
@Sagefrakrobatik How does the constitution forbid it?
And how do you feel about all of these experts coming forward and saying Borack Obomba's long form birth certificate was obiously forged by an amatuer?
KingDingaLing090 8 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Article Six Paragraph Three.
no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Can you answer this. How can it be a forgery if the State Registrar signed it?
It is signed and sealed by the State of Hawaii so how can it be a forgery. You do know that with the signature it states by law that the Document is a valid Record?
So what method did they use to compile the record at the Health department in Hawaii?
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed THe Sate Registrar is corrupt.
There is no seal on the long form. Even if it had one, it could be the stamp of another document with a different name copied and pasted on it (which it is). The stamp has on Obama's has typo and a smiley face on it. Either way could easily be pasted on without the smiley face and typo using a different birth certificate.
They used other birth certificates from the state of Hawaii to manufature one for Barack Obama.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
You don't understand law just like all the other Birther Nuts.
The Birth Certificate is signed and sealed and is a legal document sorry but you seem to believe the BS rather than the truth.
Oh it has layers Oh My. LOL ask your BS experts if they have ever seen anomalies created during scanning. Why yes so why is this case different because you can use the BS to fool idiot birthers.
So dots, boxes, squiggles, dots , lines and random garbage was created by the program.
Truth
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed The birth certificate IS NOT sealed you idiot.
Tell me where the seal is.
The BS experts go over the layers and confusion over OCR layers in detail and you can go listen to one on my page now and he explains it all. Go listen to it and tell me where he is wrong. (you won't)
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
The seal is on the back sorry.
I don't need to listen to experts I use scanning equipment myself so what they tell you is that the PDF was made in adobe illustrator. LOL So What. Can they tell you how the copy they scanned was produced were they present at the Health Department? Just because a scanner produces anomalies doesn't prove that the copy that they are scanning is not a legal binding document signed and sealed by the Registrar of the State of Hawaii.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed If it is on the back why can't we see the impression? Answer: It isnt on the back.
The guy who was taking about this created scanning programs he knows everthing about them. This is only ONE of several things that are wrong with Obama's BC. Doug Vogt has ten points that he gave to the F B I. Doug Vogt knows everything about it GO LISTEN TO HIM. You are a lil scrub. This dude is an expert and so is Paul Irey. We KNOW his BC has letters from different type writters too.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Savannah Guthrie at the press release
lockerz(dot)com/s/96540721
Information on the actual paper copy of the Obama Birth certificate.
hawaii(dot)gov/health/vital-records/obama(dot)h t m l
You do understand that Mr Vogt's whole theory is that there is no tangible paper copy but that the White house created the Birth certificate on the website. So with all the evidence that indeed a paper Copy was presented not just one but two copies Mr Vogts whole theory doesn't hold water.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Yeah she said she saw it. Good for you! You found another word of mouth.
I however can see the document with my own eyes and there is no impression. Too bad huh?
And NO that is not his theory. He said the White House didnt do anything to the document, he said it was likely manufactured in Hawaii by someone with access to other Hawaii birth certificates.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
LOL Really
The State of Hawaii is now part of the Conspiracy LOL.
Man you people never give up.
So every press release, every Person who has said it exist are part of a Conspiracy?
So the Governor who was a Campaign Manager for the McCain Camp said it existed because?
It is impossible for you to accept facts. They invented a Time Machine and put announcements in two papers. Everyone is Lying.? Yep Time Machines but they couldn't buy a 1961 typewriter for 30 bucks off Ebay.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRe The state of Hawaii was always the suspect involved in this issue. Why do you think we said we wanted the long form and didnt trust the short form?? 'durrr'
We won't give up until justice is served.
What does a press release have to do with the legitimacy of a document 3 people on earth have ever actually seen?
The Governor Neil Abercrombie said he couldnt find it.
You are a drone. You have no ability to critically analyze and when something is suspect its our fault for asking.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
LOL You are serious LOL.
Listen you remember who the Governor of Hawaii was?
Why it was Linda Lingle who worked for the McCain Campaign you also know who is one of Linda Lingle's good friend is why it is Sarah Palin you remember Sarah Palin don't you she was the Vice Presidential Candidate during the same Campaign that Linda Lingle was working on.Now why would a Republican Governor who worked for McCain is good friends with Sarah Palin forge a BC for Barack Obama?
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Also Abercrombie never said the Birth Certificate didn't exist. He sad that he couldn't release the Birth certificate by law. He actually said he found a written bound record that was not considered an official record with the birth listed and was seeing if he could release that.
If you keep reading BS rags like the World Net Daily this is what you get BS.
You create BS from actual facts. Two birth Announcement posted by the Health Department in 2 newspapers in 61 a fact.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed He said all he could find was a "notation written down".
You don't even have the slightest clue what you are talking about. The two birth announcements didn't say he was born in Hawaii. It just said he was born and it gave the address to his grandparents house. Was he born there in their house? There are no hospital records.. why did you think that is?
'WND!! RACIST!!! Repiblican!! Lie!! ' ?
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Yes that was all he could find other than the Birth Certificate held by the Health Department that by Law he could not release. Very Good.
Sorry but the announcements were posted by the Health Department.
Sorry but the address in the announcement was for his parents address. Why do you persist in BS that has been debunked?
No Hospital records you can't get someones hospital records LOL?
Are you an idiot do you think I can go get your medical records fool?
You are pathetic.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
I like how these morons on the blogs say, "We called all the Hospitals and they told us there are no Hospital Records for Barack Obama or his Mother."
So the stupid ignorant Birthers all go see no Hospital Records See See See he wasn't born here.
But what the stupid ignorant Birthers don't understand is that any Hospital would give the same answer "WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCLOSE HOSPITAL RECORDS" So the stupid ignorant Birthers all go see see see all the way home.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Does that explain how ignorant Birthers are? Abercrombie isn't looking for the Birth Certificate because he can't by law release it he is looking for some other record that can be released. So that to Ignorant Birthers means there is no Birth Certificate.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed - "It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said. "
He is TOLD? Written down? Investigation?
The fucking governor needs to be told Obama's birth was written down after he could find it and he had an investigation? The governor had to do all of that to find something written down? Now all of a sudden presto! There it is!! Yeah fucking RIGHT dude. And this one is fake. Period.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Yes he was referring to the State Vital Records held in the State Archives there was a reference written down for births sorry if you can't understand what people are talking about.
Birth Certificates are held by the Department of Health. He already knew he couldn't release the Birth certificate or don't you understand that? So what they were looking for was some other record that could be released. But State Attorney General David Louie told him nothing could be released.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
You seem to be extremely dense. I guess that is why you are a Birther they need people who can't think critically so they can twist words as I have shown above, Hospitals can't disclose medical records so to Birthers that means Obama wasn't born there. The Governor can't release Birth records so that means there is no Birth Certificate.
Are you really that ignorant?
Because Corsi, World Net Daily, Alex Jones, and Orly of course she is a moron want you to believe their BS
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Yeah. It's me not you huh? Is that what you tell yourself?
Why can't they disclose medical records? Obama's mother is deceased they arent under any obligation to protect her rights. She is dead she has no rights. The Governor said he couldnt find it and he could only find a notation written down that means he doesnt have it yeah. The Governor of Hawaii said he wanted to put this issue to bed and then he made himself look like a stooge. Then they created a fake BC.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
You seem to have a comprehension problem,. The Governor wasn't looking for the Birth Certificate. Why because they could not release it. What they were looking for was some piece of evidence that they COULD, notice COULD is in Upper case, release.
Is that easier to understand? What they found was a record of births in the State Archives. The Attorney General deemed it NOT, notice the upper case again, NOT releasable.
Medical records are not Public Documents.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
Dead People have no rights? Are you really that ignorant?
Tell you what give me the names and where your relatives are buried so I can go dig them up because dead people have no rights.I guess when you die you would like your medical records thumbed through by perfect strangers right? Hey look here he had a Venereal Disease when he was twenty.
Are you like ten or something. Seriously I feel like I am talking with a child.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Yeah that is what I said.
They have no right to hospital records. Do really have to explain everything to you fucking idiots? When I die, do you think I give a fuck about that? How would I? She doesnt have any records. You don't need to see her records only the time and date of entry. We know when Michael Jackson went to the hospital and everything in his blood and now everyone in the world knows he was a drug additct. Is that fair?
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
You seem to be confusing a Court hearing about the possibility of Medical negligence as Mr Jackson having no Patient Doctor Confidentiality. Also a High Profiled Death usually does result in an autopsy report.
Once again you don't understand they do not release information. Just as when Mr Limbaugh went to the Emergency room in Hawaii. They could not release information. That is why there was so much speculation, A Drug Overdose, A Heart Attack?
You seem easily confused.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Limbaugh is alive. And what we want is proof she was in the hispital. Not her records. The hopital records.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
LOL I think I am talking with a child.
Really? Seriously you need to get a life.
You have no clue.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed I think my president is usurping his office in my country and there is mountains of evidence to support that belief. You just defend anything him no matter what. Are you his bitch or do you get paid to defend him? Who needs to get a life here? lol
You do his chores and he looks down at you and laughs. Trust me. He lies non stop and because he knows his little lap dogs will coral the population with accusations of hate so he can get away with it. You are his towel boy.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Oooh my spelling? Oh no!!! ----> "Taitz Liar Tim Adams Liar Jerome Corsi Liar Alex Jones Liar Mountain of evidence such as?Nada" <---- Look at your grammar you illiterate fuck. These arent errors like mine you just don't even know how to write.
"Nada"??? You fucking faggot. Who is Tim Adams? Who pays you to troll birther vids?? Get a fucking life you weird illiterate douce nozzel.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
LOL I asked for your mountain of evidence. If there was really a mountain of evidence then they wouldn't continue to throw every case out. "WE WANT TO SEE HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE>"
Judge. "What is your evidence he wasn't born in the US?"
"WE HAVE THREE FAKE KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATES AND A BUNCH OF BS"
Judge, "Case Dismissed."
You asked how Herman Cain was in violation of the Constitution I answered I hope you learned something Because you don't understand the Law.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedAct We saw his long form birth certificate you idiot. And it is FAKE. That is the evidence that he wasn't born in America. His mothers signature was created with a computer. The father's race is African. The letters all came from different typewriters. The signature stamp has a spelling error. It doesn't have a seal. It shouldn't have a green background. On the words near the binding some a curved and the ones under them are not. There is a halo around the letters. And it goes on & ON & ON
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing
And the Judge says, "Sorry but this is a signed and sealed Birth Certificate issued by the State of Hawaii. And per the Full Faith and Credit Clause under the Constitution of the United State is is deemed a Legal Document. It makes no difference how the Certificate was produced even if it was written on toilet paper. If you have no evidence that proves His Birth Occurred Elsewhere. Case Dismissed."
That my friend is the Law not hype about anomalies produced by a software program.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Lol What judge said that?? Are you a judge? No your just a basement hero with a collection of Red skitles. Now you are just lying you fucking faggot.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
What Judge said that any Judge that you take this BS to.
Let me get this straight your evidence is that the PDF posted on the web has anomalies that were created by the Software during the scanning. Now is that all?
So you will take this to the Supreme Court get serious.
Do you not understand your own ignorance educate yourself and don't depend on these morons that want you to buy their Books, T-shirts, and the rest of the BULL SHIT they shove down your throat.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed What Judge? NOO Judge you stupid prick.
What? No, you don't even know what I just said. Why are so protective of Obama in first place? Why do you sit around all day and defend him? Are you one of Soros's little puppet's or what? Nothing I say will have any impact on you whatsoever because I am talking to an employee.
Ooooh you can say "educate" and "ignorance" do you feel intelligent now? You are a fucking traitor if you are even American. GTFO of my country puppet boy.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
I am sorry I see facts just go in one ear and out the other. To much emptiness inside.
Well I tire of countering every piece of BS so I now say you are dismissed have a good life.
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YTRedActed 7 months ago
@YTRedActed Yeah just say I do what you do then you may become right!! A least you can try.
Youre a weak fucking faggot who blocks people from a video you made with thepenrev's video. Lol What a coward you are!!
You have someones hand up your ass you little puppet. When I look down under the curtain you shit yourself all over his hand.
KingDingaLing090 7 months ago
@KingDingaLing090
LOL I watched your video with Douglas Vogt LOL
Seriously do you know anything about Mr Vogt? Well let me clue you in Doug Vogt is a wacko that thinks we are living in several different dimensions at the same time. Yep he is a multidimensional reality nut.
He also believes he has found Mt Sinai where Moses spoke to God.
So I guess he is now going to try and cash in on this BS.
YTRedActed 7 months ago
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Herman Cain is the former Chairman and member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. I promise you, he is just another puppet for the Fed. He doesn’t give a darn about the Constitution, which explicitly states in Article 1 Section 8 that the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof is given to CONGRESS!! NOT a private, for-profit organization like the Federal Reserve. If Herman Cain gets elected, he will inflate us into HYPERINFLATION!!! Ron Paul 2012
jeffbell1301 9 months ago
The birther movement is officially dead, Obama has put all of you to shame by releasing his birth certificate, you all should dismantle your stupid websites
viokand 9 months ago
@viokand not really. i'm not big on the issue or would consider myself a birther, i thought the whole thing was a distraction from the issues and wanted it to be over. however, i saw that "birth certificate" the administration released online and that thing looks like a terrible photoshop job. look at it for yourself. i'd still rather focus on the economy and his war crimes that he criticized the last crappy president for, but anyone who doesn't worship this guy should see something fishy.
PrideComesB4theFall 9 months ago
@viokand I guess your head is stuck so far up your ass that you are just as lost now as you were last year when we kept asking for his real BC.
The birther movement is on exploding with evidence that Obama's long form was forged and he has been using a fake social security number for 20 years. Take YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!!!
KingDingaLing090 8 months ago
@KingDingaLing090 You really think he was born in Kenya? and was immediately shipped back to the US to have his birth recorded in Hawaii, announced in two Hawaiian newspapers and now you are accusing the state of Hawaii of forging his long form birth certificate to legitimize him as natural born? you are a dumb ass, you should have your brain examined, honestly I will like to sell you some snake oil b/c I know you will buy it, please get yourself off the hate radio talk shows and websites.
viokand 8 months ago
@viokand I don't know where he was born. I know he doesnt have a birth certificate and he has been using a dead guys social security card for 20 years. His birth wasn't recorded in Hawaii. The newspaper never said he was born there, they announced his birth. His grandarents had a grandchild and the paper anounced it. I am accusing someone in the sate of Hawaii of forging a birth certificate yes. Why is that so hard to believe? The most powerful postion on earth is at stake. Do you want evidence?
KingDingaLing090 8 months ago
@KingDingaLing090 How come you know Barack Obama's social security number and how many previous presidents social security numbers do you Know? do you know it is illegal for you to acquire someone else s private document without his permission? In your little brain, Barack Obama does not have a birth certificate because you have chosen not to believe anything that he puts out there, OK. all the birth announcements I read in the daily paper over here are actually of people born in planet X. DUMB.
viokand 8 months ago
@viokand Because he used it to get his house in Chicago and debt collectors have independently looked into it and they all came to a conclusion. When they asked the white house press secretary why he has been using it he changed the subject and giggled nervously. Obama is a felon. Yeah that is what I am saying to you. No computer expert ever said the BC is authentic, on the other hand dozens of computer experts have come out and said it is clearly fake and SO fake that it is unbelievable.
KingDingaLing090 8 months ago
@KingDingaLing090 @KingDingaLing090 Obama was vetted by both the independent electoral commission and the FBI. and was cleared to run for president, how come they didn't see all these anomalies? perhaps you are better than the FBI in investigation, how many previous presidents have you investigated? why don't you just admit it, tell the whole world that you are driven by racism and hate?
viokand 8 months ago
@viokand Prove he was vetted by the FBI and what independent electoral commision? The leadership is political and they have been for a long time. The FBI hasn't came forward and investigated the fake SS# or debunked it. And neither has the White house.
In the end you resort to accusations of hate. You can't legitimately debate the issue so you personally attack anyone that challenges the reality of your fantasyland. What a shallow minded coward you are! lol
KingDingaLing090 8 months ago
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Mr. Cain answer this:
1.) When the United States borrows money from the Federal Reserve who do we specifically pay that money to; meaning to which individuals?
2.) Who owns the Federal Reserve?
3.) Does the Federal Reserve pay taxes on the trillions they make and if so to what country since they are a business?
Mr. Cain used to work for the Federal Reserve.
I wouldn't trust him.
medzcine 10 months ago
Cain is a joke. He said that government doesn't create jobs...
Tell that to your local police, fire, educator, etc., etc.
What a pathetic right stupid ass joke - and all those anti-Americans excited about him can take off to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan where they will be more comfortable with other anti-Americans.
Aner2557 10 months ago
What an absolute fraud!Another RepubliCON ,Corporate Pimp!Rightwing ,Trickle Down,Voodoo Economics is the biggest lie perpetuated on America and the reason for our Debt Crisis through this continuous Bust and Boom ,Corporate Wall Street Ponzi Scam that has BANKRUPTED AMERICA over the last 30 years!$12 Trillion ,that's 85% of our National Debt is attributed to the RepubliCONS , Ronnie Reagan and the Bush's!
sjofu 10 months ago
its always a shame to see a black man tomming and shucking and jiving for scraps off the white mans table. what are you go to do when they ask to see YOUR slave papers, herman?
veronicajade20 10 months ago
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sickofcommies 10 months ago
@sickofcommies go die.
veronicajade20 9 months ago
@veronicajade20 GO SUCK OFF YOUR KKK DEMOCRAT MASTERS. BILL CLINTON IS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER BLOWJOB. FUCK YOU FUCKER.
sickofcommies 9 months ago
@sickofcommies again, do the world the world a favor: drink bleach, hang yourself, play in traffic. DIE.
veronicajade20 9 months ago
@veronicajade20 Burn in Hell Nazi.
sickofcommies 9 months ago
Ha ha... Obama just released his long form... so this story is over, you can see it right here:
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guardian.co. uk /world/blog/2011/apr/27/barack-obama-birth-certificate-statement
tnoyy34rt 10 months ago
Herman Cain is a moron, he's "pro-life", which nobody supports. No wonder he lost in the polls. Taking away a woman's rights is no acceptable, it shows the person is dishonest and against American freedom.
tnoyy34rt 10 months ago
O'Reilly and Beck are owned by FOXNEWS, FOX is owned by Saudi Arabia. They do what their bosses tell them. Both are traitors! Go to Peter Boyles, Jerome Corsi, Jack Cashill, Rev, James Manning for the truth. Also: Her Name is Ms Ann. Let Manning tell you the truth. Stop this illegal, homosexual, muslim . God bless America, and Trump.
Petekiv 10 months ago
this is a joke a black birther? fuck what a uncle tom
billybob101013 10 months ago
@billybob101013 I know, right? This is getting really stupid. Fuck the economy, lets distract people with HOW MUCH OBAMA WEIGHED WHEN HE WAS BORN!
grendelee 10 months ago
@grendelee - EXACTLY! Who freaking cares how much he weighed or how long he was at birth, the only thing that matters is WHERE he was born and the State of Hawaii has confirmed, verified, sworn on oath and signed that he was BORN in Honolulu. What else do these morons want?
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Congress even passed a LAW (HR573 - 111th) that confirmed he was born in Hawaii.
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So all that is left is a couple of uneducated, redneck, republican racists from the south who disagree.
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Interesting...
tnoyy34rt 10 months ago
Barack admits he goofed off at Occidental College but has not explained how he transferred to Columbia. He did not graduate with honors from Columbia yet got into Harvard Law School. How? He refuses to reveal his SAT scores, LSAT score, and college transcripts. The media wanted voters to think he is a supergenius so the media never probed into this even though they demanded such info from McCain, Gore, Dubya, and Kerry.
007ObiWan 10 months ago
I'm more concerned about this new "Girther Movement" angle.
Google "Freedom Haters Girther" for the scoop - if you haven't already heard about it.
It could bury Obama in 2012.
Canaderek 10 months ago
In a party thats 95% white, this is what the communist "jews" will give us as a republican candidate, another black man. Stupid goyim cattle!
IsraeliteMessenger 10 months ago
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IsraeliteMessenger 10 months ago
Stupid nigger
pilotoenrique 10 months ago
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Any Politian whom has legally sealed their own records is" DECEPTIVE" They do not want you to know 'who" they are and what they have truely accomplished or failed at including their personal agenda and idealogies!
Demand quality in your choices when you elect a canidate something that didn't happen pertaining to Obama in 08
lv2surf 10 months ago
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See "The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth" at puzo1.blogspot.com 2009 09 natural-born-citizen-clause-requires html
Obama's father was NEVER EVER an American citizen. Therefore, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN, OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA! Obama knows this point perfectly well, as he studied law at university! He consciously lied to the American people!!!!
michaelhtvr 10 months ago
RACIST!!!! No, wait...
CorrosionX3 11 months ago
Oh, NOW your saying it. Way to jump on the train Cain
Porojukaha 11 months ago
Herman Cain has been making too much Cream Of Wheat.
Anointed7 11 months ago
Herman Cain for Prez 2012 YEAH! I'm voting for him. I've talked to him twice, on his radio show. He tells it like it is.
dianddra999 11 months ago
@dianddra999 Cains the man. But can he beat Obama? Could he even win in the primaries? I kinda think Cain is another Ron Paul type. Hes exactly what we need. But exactly what we have absolutely no chance of getting. Thats why im voting for Trump. Not only is Trump, for all intents and purposes, Just as good a candidate as Paul or Cain or Romney hes actually got a VERY good chance of winning. No democrat or independent will EVER vote for any of the previous three. But tons will vote for Trump.
Porojukaha 11 months ago
@Porojukaha Trump ain't winning shit!When they start peoples the skeletons out his toupee,its a wrap!!
micdagreat1 10 months ago
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2 sites where there are useful information on this lack of eligibility of Obama to be president of the USA:
1) Attorney Mario Apuzzo's site at puzo1 blogspot com.
2) Several articles on WorldNetDaily at wnd com under “Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve?”
Use google com to find the exact web addresses of these 2 web sites.
michaelhtvr 11 months ago
To be the President of the USA, the Constitution of the USA indicates that he must be "a natural born citizen". To be a natural born citizen, he MUST meet 2 conditions:
1) he must be born in the USA.
2) he must be born of two American parents.
Both conditions are required!
1) is NOT met, as Obama never showed a LONG FORM birth certificate!
2) is IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET, as Obama's father was NEVER an American!
Hence, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and is NOT eligible to be President of the USA!
michaelhtvr 11 months ago
@michaelhtvr OMG the horror!!An illegal alien running the country?What should we do?Should we deport him back to Kenya?
micdagreat1 11 months ago
@micdagreat1 We should impeach him, convict him in the senate. Overturn all of his legislation by default, since his signing of it into law was unconstitutional. Then we should prosecute him in a criminal court for both fraud and high treason. He should be convicted and executed. Thats my opinion :)
Porojukaha 11 months ago 2
@Porojukaha great comment if they proved he was Kenyan all his legislation would be overturned anything he put a pen to would be voided but I dont think any charges would be executed . I think he would be pardoned. Its hard to believe but there are alot of people that think he is the best thing that ever happened to this country, He just sent a vid/ to his delgates and told them we need to concentrate on the black/latino vote I guess he forgot about the 41%white voters he got in 08 he a raciest
lv2surf 10 months ago
@michaelhtvr Okay smart guy,where did the mother meet the father,Hawaii or Kenya?Did she fly a plane back to the States or catch a boat?Did she call in the announcements or did they Department of Vital Statistics call them in?Do you know how CRAZY you sound??
micdagreat1 10 months ago
Where’s my perks? Obots didn’t get any either. Barry promised to pay our gas and mortgage. He promised to bring all the troops home by summer of 2009. He promised to close Gitmo. How many have been fulfilled to date? ZILCH. America was punked. Here is what we did get, high gas prices, high food prices, new war to fight. An oil spill that gushed for months polluting the ocean while Barry played ball and traveled.
5 trillion more in Debt
Having the time of his life while the country goes to sh*t.
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1
I'm confused, I thought your beef was with his birth place, now you say he didn't pay your gas bill. I thought you always wanted gitmo open to torture people, now you're mad he left it open to try terror?
Make up your mind buddy! You can't fight his policy while claiming he's an alien, sue the alien like you're suppose to. LMAO
YOU PATRIOT YOU!
mindoermatta 11 months ago
Dammit Obama.....just resign already!!! We all know that you're a goddam fraud !!! Just LEAVE, will you??.....So we can clean up the mess you've made with your Lord and Master George Soros. Just hand it over to Biden and go back to Chicago to be with your corrupt brood. Even though we can't stand Biden either, at least we know that the old toothy geezer was born on U.S. soil !
prospectiveman 11 months ago 3
Factcheck just got caught committing forgery and removed the "obama certification" from their site on 4/3/2011
Do people realize that the Obama Campaign only recognizes the small, cropped image (585 x 575) as being Obama’s “official” birth certificate?Not the Factcheck copy or photosNot the Politifact copy. Not the Daily kos copy.
The Obama Campaign NEVER sent any image copies out to anyone.
It is known who made the original forgery. What's also known is the chain of custody of all the images
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago 2
@DABIGRAGU1
I just went on Factcheck and saw it for the 100th time 5 minutes ago. so I do not know where you are getting your infomation buddy. YES I am looking at it at this very moment online on Factcheck's site. at 10:11 am eastern time, April 4 2011.
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE What you're seeing now are the new and improved 585 X 575 versions. They had to replace the old images they had up for approx 2.5yrs. You're obviously not aware of the change, all images last night were down, as they were told to remove and replace them or they would be cited for forgery and fraud.
No big deal, screen shots had been taken of the old forged docs.
Watch, it will explain what they did. Enjoy: /watch?v=BbpjYeZXaVs
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1
so let me get this straight. with all the overwelming evidence that obama was born here (COLB, 2 state officials' statements. pics from fcheck and scanned, birth anouncements) no one providing evidence to the contrary besides inuendo. now with ALL that evidence you take the evidence of a random youtube blogger as proof that Fcheck had a forgery?
ok werent birthers embarrased enough from Ron Polarik/pollard's being caught lying about the "fake" BC? admit it, you just dont like him
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
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The "newspaper announcement" argument is merely a distraction. Once you become aware how these announcements were generated it becomes irrelevant.
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago 2
The fact that a birth announcement was or was not in the newspaper has nothing to do with Obama’s official Hawaiian Long form birth certificate. It's already been established Hawaiian newspaper announcements at the time were generated by the Department of Health.The DOH has also confirmed you could register a birth with a mail order form signed by the Mother or Grandmother, a vital statistics record is created, which generates a newspaper announcement. Announcements do not verify Natural Born.
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago 2
It is WONDERFUL to see GOOD MEN like this EMBRACING THE TRUTH of the CONSTITUTION!!!! :)
JEDIALADDIN 11 months ago 2
why do the people like Hannity,Oreilly and Fox news the people who should be digging ignoring this for the last 2 years,even laughing and scorning us birthers making fun of us ,when this is violation of the laws,we have Rangel and Geinter and other who think they are above the law,did you know that congressmen s kids are exempt from paying their student loans,the corruption stinks to high Heaven
majorl311 11 months ago 3
this is a real independant man.
ddarkshark 11 months ago
Cain ain't ''Spooked'' by obumble's liberal netsavages ... ;)
chicagoray44 11 months ago
A COLB (Certificate Of Life Birth) is NOT a birth certificate.
And by the way Democrats, what HOSPITAL was he born in?
Obama has something to hide.
AcePilot101 11 months ago 2
The more I hear this guy, the more I like him!
usmc7242 11 months ago 2
@usmc7242 He subs for Rush sometimes when Rush takes a break.
mcap52 11 months ago
Hermain Cain should prove that he is not 3/5 of a person. It's bad enough when @sshole Trump is pushing the birther BS but its worse when people like Hermain (who should know better) are cosigning these birther @sses.
myha16 11 months ago
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@myha16
said, "Cain should prove that he is not 3/5 of a person."
Exactly, why blacks vote for democrats that made laws like that in the first place is just nuts.
OxAO 11 months ago
@myha16 oh shut up....foolish sheep
miacanes5 11 months ago
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2 sites where there are useful information on this lack of eligibility of Obama to be president of the USA:
1) Attorney Mario Apuzzo's site at puzo1 blogspot com.
2) Several articles on WorldNetDaily at wnd com under “Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve?”
Use google com to find the exact web addresses of these 2 web sites.
michaelhtvr 11 months ago
To be the President of the USA, the Constitution of the United States indicates that the POTUSA must be "a natural born citizen". To be a natural born citizen, the POTUSA MUST meet 2 conditions:
1) The POTUSA must be born in the USA.
2) The POTUSA must be born of two parents who are American citizens.
Both conditions are required!
1) is NOT met, as no LONG FORM birth certificate was shown.
2) is NOT met, as Obama's father was NEVER EVER an American.
Hence, Obama is NOT eligible to be POTUSA!
michaelhtvr 11 months ago 5
well you are not and will never be president so it is a moot point,
btw Mr. Cain, his BC is online, both a scanned and a photographed copy.
or should the Pres do a US tour to all states and personally show it to the thousands of Birthers
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE California doesnt use a COLB. All states use a BC. Everyone knows what a BC is.
frethis555 11 months ago 5
@frethis555
you should verify your information before posting. It shows your ignorance. HI only issues a COLB. It has the same function and acceptability as what (not all) states call a BC.
the name of the document is not an issue because it has the exact same relevence and meets all federal guidelines
saying that HI's COLB is not the equivelent of NY's BC is like saying that NY's DMV is not the Equavelent of GA's DDS
so before making an uninformed statement, do some research
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE There are no scanned and photographed copies of his BC online.
frethis555 11 months ago
@frethis555
I can find them both on a 2 second google search. maybe you should try it.
factcheck has photographed and posted it online
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE. The BC has 23 boxes for information. It is not on factcheck.
frethis555 11 months ago 2
@frethis555
the HI BC/COLB meets all federal standards and guidelines. Period
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE "I can find them both on a 2 second google search. maybe you should try it.
factcheck has photographed and posted it online"
No need to get snarky, perhaps you should google up "Obama's garden/wordpress and take an up close peek at your F-check's version of the "online internet" version of this document F-check purports as "legal" proof. Pay close attention to F-checks INCISED seal vs. a legal RAISED seal. Check Hawaii's own claim to legal vs forgery. F-check has committed forgery
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1
that is one of the biggest loads of Bull that I have heard online in a while.
HI official, dept of health dir under Gov Linda Lingle has come forth in a press statement that Obama has a BC on file at the HI dept of Health. but for some reason, you say fact check forged it. oh and do not forget that WND (birther anti Obama news faction) even verified that the BC on Factcheck was NOT forged
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE WND? and Your point? Fact is it's incised.
Perhaps you should watch this, Linda Lingle disputes and sets the record straight.
Enjoy:
/watch?v=PoiuPcZXvkg
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1
point is that WND is the only (quasi) media source who gives you people credence and even they had to say It is not forged like YOU claim from a blogger site (word press).
I watched the video... are you sure you did, because she explicitely says that SHE is not allowed to but the she says the dir of health and registrar are, watch your own linked video at 55 seconds.
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE Yes I did hear that as well, my point was Lingle's reiteration. You did bring up a good point though, let's examine it. Lingle states"they personally viewed the original record' yet, Politifact actually has Okubo on the record denying that the electronic COLB image provided by the Obama campaign can be authenticated by her or by anyone at DHOH.
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE Remember, the COLB has only a "Filed" state and not an "Accepted" state. Until it's accepted by the registrar it's nothing.Hawaii also confirmed Obama’s "vital records" have been amended.
Furthermore your reference to "you people", you assume I'm what? I was a registered Democrat at the time of the election. In my state I cannot vote for anyone other than the party nominated candidate, so guess who I voted for? Right! I'm well aware of the game, I used to play it.
DABIGRAGU1 11 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1
I assume you are a birther, which you are. you can make a point a bit better than most of them though but the problem is that Birthers do not really want to know the truth. and look for any technicality, no matter how small or absurd and run with it, or omit key elements of statements or written policy.
Fukino stated he has one on file and was born in HI, photographs of it on Factcheck show the seal, and registrars signature, Cert no etc. I think there are about 8 pictures of it
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
@SEEPRICE It is YOU that should verify your information before spreading DISinformation. Hawaii DOH already stated on the public record that they could release Obama's "vital records" with Obama's CONSENT. Which he REFUSES to do.
What does the State Department webiste say about short-form COLBS; "Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes."... travel.stateDOTgov/passport/get/first/first_830.html#step3first
BirtherReportDotCom 11 months ago 2
@BirtherReportDotCom Why do these "leaders" refuse to research Obama's BC!?!? I don't get it. They proudly admit they have never studied the issue, and I'm not talking about Cain, he's a stand up guy, but still. MAJOR media networks, and sly dogs (like Beck, Oreily, Van Sustren, Laura Ingrahm etc.) the lame stream rats, wont ***study** it. And they are proud to ***not** do their job, to ***not be informed*** on the most scandalous issue in American History. It even took Trumpster 2 years wtf?
KingDingaLing090 11 months ago 2
@KingDingaLing090 -Because they are covering their asses for not doing the job they should have done in 2007 when Obama AKA Soetoro first announced his candidacy. They are all in full damage control mode.... What they underestimated is the power of the internet...
BirtherReportDotCom 11 months ago
@BirtherReportDotCom
really, because I have only a short form and I used it to get my passport. what YOU are doing is sending out disinformation either purposely or because you choose to only research the information that lends credence to your theory and not that which proves the oposite.
I on the other hand looked up information from both sides
I note that you never mention that a person can get a HI COLB if they were born in shanghai but that COLB would show the Place of birth as shanghai
SEEPRICE 11 months ago
Cain is a no BS guy.
PopeRonPaul 11 months ago 11
Obama will be exposed in the near future.
SaintsnBraves3 11 months ago 4
@SaintsnBraves3
Goodluck with that...
mindoermatta 11 months ago
@mindoermatta More like, good luck to him.
SaintsnBraves3 11 months ago
@SaintsnBraves3
Oooh... good one!
LMAO
I suppose you'll be doing the exposing, I think the President can only hope you guys focus on that while he's busy focusing on fiscal policy.
You're right, we the people will pick you over him.
Dream on!
mindoermatta 11 months ago
@mindoermatta When it happens, the whole world will know that he's a fraud. You'll see!
SaintsnBraves3 11 months ago
@SaintsnBraves3
Obama refuses to allows any more continuance to the budget, tea party republicans have less than a week to come to the table.
...and what are birthers yapping about?? You are not helping yourself buddy, by the time you snap outta your fantasy Obama will be getting inaugurated... FOR THE SECOND TIME!
Sheesh!
mindoermatta 11 months ago
@mindoermatta Obama will be getting inaugurated... FOR THE SECOND TIME!
Don't count on it.
SaintsnBraves3 11 months ago
@SaintsnBraves3
I just told you why it's going to happen. Just because you say "don't count on it" doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Being a birther or a tea bagger is not enough.
I know it hurts but I'm sorry you're going to have to take it like a man this time too.
So sorry!
mindoermatta 11 months ago
@SaintsnBraves3
Obama on track to to raise 1billion for his re-election!!!
Better empty that pigy bank of yours in Sarah's account quickly...
Just sayin'
mindoermatta 11 months ago
@mindoermatta Trump is on track to raise more than 1 billion for his campaign....but thats just from HIMSELF!! who knows what more he will raise lol.
Porojukaha 11 months ago
@mindoermatta personally i think that Trump has hard evidence that Obama wasnt born in this country. Hes just waiting for the right time to relase that info. If he does, the only chance Obama has of getting reelected is if Trump is assassinated before the election. Which, thankfully, wont happen though some liberals might actually try it.
Porojukaha 11 months ago
@Porojukaha Any Politian whom has legally sealed their own records is" DECEPTIVE" They do not want you to know 'who" they are and what they have truely accomplished or failed at including their personal agenda and idealogies!
Demand quality in your choices when you elect a canidate something that didn't happen pertaining to Obama in 2008!
I agree to you Trump already has proof , Trump said he would spent 600 mil of his own $ on the race.
Obama gave 1% to charity for 7 years
lv2surf 10 months ago
Herman Cain gave a reasoned response. Let's hope Mr Cain reads House records of 1866,14th Amendment Author, Abolitionist, Congressman John Bingham: "... declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…." Obama's father owed allegiance to Britain and Kenya, making Barack ineligible.
Sonatafool 11 months ago 4
The tsunami is building.
itisYOUREnotYOUR 11 months ago 18
@itisYOUREnotYOUR
TGWMPE 11 months ago