Michael Savage - God is a conservative, atheists cannot disprove the existence

[Rayz2cents]

Biblical proof that God is a conservative:

Ecclesiastes 10:2 "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."

Shalom

[HiHats21]

@BlongBlarble Ok... And that's why no one likes theists. You're not able to argue without yelling at someone, see everything like you want it to be and just jump to conclusions. Excuse me for not beeing a native speaker. To my mind proof and evidence basically mean the same, but enlighten me, please. Always willing to learn.

Oh, and no, I'm not a teenager, what you easily coud have checked. But you're a freaking child, dude. Why is it so hard for you to accept other peoples ideas?

[alphacause]

@BlongBlarble Actually he can be foolish to those who believe in God as well, because even if one were a Christian, there is not enough information in the Bible to justify Savage's assertion that God is clearly a conservative.

[HiHats21]

@BlongBlarble Why is the Big Bang proof for a god? I can understand that one might could see a proof in DNA or the complexity of all things but I'd say they don't proof wether a god exists nor that he doesn't. Those are just things that make our world and should be used as proof by any side, 'cause they aren't.

Look, I respect your believes but don't preach on me. I just BELIEVE (if you will) in the theory of evolution because I believe in the evidence.

[htiberian]

I'm glad Michael at least admits the best of the Atheists try to be rationalists. And he admits it is a personal matter to find God; still like his show though.

[htiberian]

God is a Republican.

[grungefreak10]

I may be a Republican but I am still a big skeptic of religion. If Milton Friedman can do it, if Nat Hentoff can do it, if Lee Doren can do it, if my uncle Jerry can do it, I don't see why I can't.

All the same, his arguments for "finding God" are nothing I haven't heard before; they are mere emotional appeals. Even at the lowest point in my life, I knew that God's way of "revealing himself" is little more than just another psychological state. I simply cannot reason otherwise.

[VanessaTexasGal]

@grungefreak10 Friedman was a skeptic of religion? I didn't know that. 

[jnthnwilliam]

would someone please explain to this guy what falsifiability is?

[KansasItalianCity]

as a human its very simple, believe in somthing greater than yourself, or live a meaningless and weak life like sheep.

[KansasItalianCity]

doesnt matter what u are labeled or born as, what mattetrs is what you practice and who u are becoming as a person and how it effects people around u

[DDTphoenix]

I bet he dosent think the same with Muslims, he just means chritions obviously

[IcedCoffee81]

@DDTphoenix But he's a Jew and said it himself.

[ginad17]

I cant disprove that you're not a child molester and rapist. Does that mean you are?

[Bashirjafiya]

@ginad17 and it doesent mean ur not as well

[ginad17]

@Bashirjafiya Good one, Einstein...

[eleal1893]

OK people, you CANNOT disprove the existence nor can you prove the existence of such. I believe in a God, but I don't believe in religion, and I will not try to push this down ANYONE's throat. So believers, stop trying to convince the atheists, they are too close-minded for that, and atheists, stop trying, because the believers are too close minded for that.

[cmcneill60]

@eleal1893 your statement is correct only because atheist have proud hearts,GOD reveals HIMSELF to humble hearts,they have the wrong attitude to GOD

[yobro250]

*better

[HiHats21]

For the last freaking time just because you disprove something, doesn't make it real. You can't disprove that I'm the second comming of Jesus. Does that make me the savior?

[alphacause]

Supposing God exists, you would still have to PROVE that God is the one who inspired the writing of the commandments in order to demonstrate that God has a conservative disposition, which Dr Savage, you have not done, nor is it possible to do. So stop jumping to conclusions. It just makes you look foolish.

[alphacause]

Dr. Savage, if you knew anything about atheism you would know that you don't need to disprove the existence of God in order to justify it, any more than Christians have to disprove the existence of an invisible pink unicorn orbiting the Andromeda galaxy to not believe in it. It is incumbent of the person making the assertion concerning the existence of an entity (i.e. God or the invisible unicorn) to come up with proof. Lack of proof justifies suspension of belief, which is what atheism is.

[ah93704]

@alphacause but you say he doesnt exist. How did the universe form? Did it form itsself? You cant answer that with any degree of certainly. Thus, something higher than us had to have created everything?

[alphacause]

@ah93704 I never said I can prove God doesn't exist. What I said is there is no adequate proof for his existence. Those are two different things. It's this lack of proof that justifies non-belief. You cannot, with a 100% certainty, disprove the existence of a magical and invisible elf, on the other side of the Milky Way, but since you don't have any substantial evidence to conclude that such a creature does exist, you lack belief in it (continued)

[alphacause]

@ah93704 (continued from previous response)We don't know how the universe formed, and that is my answer. To just posit a being who created the universe doesn't answer anything. It is just intellectually lazy, because it doesn't resolve the conundrum of existence. After all, if you posit the existence of a being that created the universe ex nihilo, then it begs the question of how this being (i.e. God) came to be? Was he formed from nothing (continued)?

[alphacause]

@ah93704 (continued from previous post)If something that farfetched is possible, why can't it be equally possible for the universe. If a theist is willing to invoke the inexplicable to "explain" God's existence, and think that he can get away with it, it is logically inconsistent of him to preclude the atheist from using that same convenient "explanation" that the universe formed from nothing.

[alphacause]

@ah93704 (continued from previous response) Finally, even if it is proven that a being, external the universe and time, created the universe and time, it is unjustified and intellectually dishonest to say you have proved "God". Because as we all know, when the vast majority of people use the term "God", they mean much more than a mere Deistic idea of a creator, who starts everything in motion, and leaves. God has specific characteristics, which merely proving a creator does not validate.

[ah93704]

@alphacause I'll give you a few "proofs" of God's existance. 1). Creation. The fact that we exist and that there are laws and things that are absolute. 2) Answered Prayer. I can attest to the fact that God answers prayer. I've asked him for things and he has performed miracles in my life. I know people who have been cured of cancer. The biggest miracle of all is life. 3) Fulfilled prophecy. God says something is going to happen and it does. For example, he predicted the rise and full of Babylo

[pimpnasty44]

@ah93704

GOD IS NOT REAL

[Chaaarge]

@ah93704 I'm an atheist, but when I read your comment I would like to know how you define "God". The fact that we exist proves only that we exist, period. Same thing with absolute laws. Answered prayer can have hundreds of explanations other than god. And I knew a person who was cured of cancer but was a hindu, does that prove the hindu gods? And how do you account for the christians who do pray but die of cancer?

[ah93704]

@Chaaarge The Bible says that God is a Spirit. We exist but whence the substance of it? How did we get here? How could our brain come from something less intelligent than us? Even if God used evolution you have to admit that its a miracle that we are here. I agree about the answered prayer statement, but dont forget that there is also The Devil. On the other hand, I t hink if a person is sincere, if they simply get it wrong (like if they are the wrong religion) God winks and gives them a break!

[yobro250]

@Chaaarge Cancer..Lol I love how people think cancer is like the end all be all of horrible diseases.

Parasitic diseases worldwide cause way more deaths each year than cancer...Yet don't receive even 1/10th the attention that cancer and aids do...Its like most people think that the only diseases that kill people are cancer and aids..Not taking anything away from people who suffer for either...but it is very annoying how these seem to be the only 2 diseases ever brought up

[Chaaarge]

@yobro250 I just used cancer as an example because the person I responded to used it in his example :) trying to keep it simple

[yobro250]

@Chaaarge Yeah I wasn't blaiming you for using cancer...I mean after all cancer is probably the most prevalent disease in the US aside from heart disease...so it is natural that most Americans often think of it...

If you really want a good example I suggest you use a vector borne disease..Diseases transmitted by mosquitoes, tsetse flies, sandflies, ticks etc that kill millions of people each year. What does God like those tiny insects/arachnids than his beloved "children"?..Religion is a joke

[yobro250]

@Chaaarge Oh and also look up the "brain eating amoeba"...What did "God" create that for his "children" to enjoy as well.

[ah93704]

@alphacause  I could go on but I think thats enough for you to chew on. One day you will know there is a God.Until then, keep searching and I shall pray for you!

[koolaid28]

@hashmash0 well, at least you're being honest. wish all the other atheists were as honest as you. GOD BLESS YOU. :)

[zzzak123]

If God showed himself to you without your consent you would have no freedom. Seek and you shall find.

[papabungle]

And thus, Michael Savage proves he is an idiot. There is something called the burden of proof. It lies on those making the positive claim. It is not atheist's job to disprove god. It is theist's job to provide evidence and good reason for believing in god.

[koolaid28]

@papabungle But if God doesn't exist, why would an atheist care? Why does the atheist obsess with it? An atheist wouldn't care about it. The fact that an atheist(s) continue to attack people of faith says a lot. What that is, that's anyone's guess.

[papabungle]

@koolaid28

1. Because a significant portion of the population believes in something without good reason.

2. People's beliefs have consequences on their actions that has an effect on all of us.

3. Because no idea is above criticism, and there is no one but atheists to criticize claims of god as presented by theists.

4. Rather than present evidence or good reason for the existence of god, you simply state that I have no reason to care, which is not true and wastes both of our time.

[MrSuperneocon]

Savage is on the money YET AGAIN !!!

We need to bring back the study of the bible back into our schools!!!!

Then (and ONLY THEN) will this country return to its moral-center!!!!

Memorization of the bible is essential for strong christian upbringing!

[paddles2]

@MrSuperneocon

I'm an atheist and I would consider myself to have strong morals. Don't give some bullshit about how humans need religion to know right from wrong.

[TheVovo68]

and this is the reosen svage should be president = hes brilliant

michael savage you are great man!

[abrnt1]

@TheVovo68 more spelling mistakes I see: svage,reosen,hes

pathetic

[quincee33]

"the bible was written by the Jews, and if their's one thing that Jews are good at, it's B.S.ing" - Lewis Black.

[ImaniTMisfit]

If the Old Testament is flawed then why reference the 10 commandments. You're conviently backpeddling. Sorry to break it to you, the New Testament condones and promotes slavery also. 1 Peter 2:18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. Now we all know from the context of Exodus 21:20-21 that a servant is basically a slave, since the Bible says its OK to beat your servant halfway to death as long as he doesnt die. - Misfit

[ImaniTMisfit]

Did you forget that quick? You sat here making claims that I am going to hell for being bisexual because your God says so. If I recall you said "I dont give a fuck if you go to hell"and "plan for happy times in hell". All these words of harrassment based on this God of yours that you cannot even PROVE exists. What gives you the right to treat people like that when you cant even gather up any evidence that what you are saying is true. - Misfit

[maximunoutlaw32]

@ImaniTMisfit most religions frown on that, hate to break it to you, and people like you are the reason fundamentalist say they are going to hell, you pretend like your way of life is better then the beliefs of an 2000 year old theology. And NOT ALL CHIRSTIANS SAY THAT MORE MUSLIMS SAY IT THE CHIRSTIANS, Paul said that not Jesus or god, so not every one thinks it, so stop pretending you know everything about.

[ImaniTMisfit]

@maximunoutlaw32 Who cares if most religions frown on that. Whats your point. Most religions frown on sex as a whole.... but most religions are stupid. Yes my way of life is better than a 2000 year old lifestyle, and it should be. If we are still living like we 2000 years ago that means something is wrong. It means we have not progressed. You need to stop allowing other people to brainwash you and start to think for yourself. - Misfit

[maximunoutlaw32]

@ImaniTMisfit first, they don't frown on it as a hole, only premarital and that is just Christians and Muslims.

Second name one thing bad about the Ten commandments. Lastly the whole point of religion is for us to have guidance, and plus we don't need to change to progress as a society, if something works why change it, plus as i mentioned PAUL is the one who made the comments about gays, not god, not Jesus, Paul, but if you really knew what you were talking about you'd know that.

[ImaniTMisfit]

@maximunoutlaw32 One bad thing about the Ten Commandments? It does not condemn slavery. Second, it says nothing about taking care of the environment. Third, it says nothing about being cruel to animals. No, the first and most important thing to your God is that we have no other Gods before him. Kinda selfish and vain if you ask me. By the way, Moses was the first one to condemn gays in Leviticus, you idiot. You are the perfect example of why we dont need the Bible for guidance. - Misfit

[maximunoutlaw32]

@ImaniTMisfit with the exception of slavery those are modern problems, plus if it condemned slavery, the roman would have ended it permanently. and how is having no one above the person who created the universe selfish, and there IS parts about treating slaves like human beings, not like property, it dosen't condemn it or promote it. Okay there are good things about religion, you just won't admit it, its just when put in the hands of self righteous maniacs is when its is bad, and that is that.

[ImaniTMisfit]

@maximunoutlaw32 A modern problem? So I guess they didnt have animals back in Bible times? Congrats. You qualify as the idiot of the day. So your God is creator of the universe but he's scared of the Romans. and the Bible does promote slavery when it commands slaves to obey their masters as if they were obeying Jesus Christ, you idiot. It DOES tell you that slaves are property and gives you permission to beat your slaves. Exodus 21:20-21. I can tell you know nothing. - Misfit

[maximunoutlaw32]

@ImaniTMisfit im saying it wasn't a problem or on peoples minds back then, and god himself was not scared, but the people who were under the Romans (and other slave owning empires) who made the bible, and that what is not what the passage says "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished." you prove yourself an idiot.

[ImaniTMisfit]

@maximunoutlaw32 I should have known you would try to act omit the Bible verse that promotes slavery so I took the liberty of posting them here. Exodus 21:20-21 (King James Version) 20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 21Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. THERE YOU GO. Undeniable promotion of slavery. You can beat your slave as long as doesnt die. - Misfit

[maximunoutlaw32]

@ImaniTMisfit again that is the old testament and i don't agree with everything in that part of the bible, its FLAWED, but its a door way to the new testament, that is the only reason why we covet it. Back then the only thing that was important was living. People died often back then. The life of some animal and the environment ( which the only problem was cow farts or whatever) was not important. Much that Jesus says contradicts the old testament, because he was ushering in an new way.

[maximunoutlaw32]

@ImaniTMisfit and plus that is the old testament, as in the old way, and the New testament even says that slavery is wrong and the NEW testament is what Christians go by and i am not going to defend it because the old testament HAS MANY FLAWS. Even the Jews say that, and its not the greatest part and if there was no new testament i would agree with you but even Jesus said something like "Under god we are all free" or something like that i am not a human bible.

[xxwaterboy1xx]

@ImaniTMisfit Go take some prozac.

[ImaniTMisfit]

I'm a bisexual rapper and I think that its very imporant to point out the fact that Micheal Savage is a man who believes in God, and also to point out the fact that he has done alot in the persecutions of homosexuals. These two points are very closely related The danger of a book that claims to the answer to eternal is based on your lifestyle.... It infulences a person to attack anyone who doesnt fit into that lifestyle. - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit humans are very easily influenced to attack just about anyone....have ever heard of gangs fighting over colors? Michael savage is not a true christian!

[ImaniTMisfit]

@LA213lakers I beg to differ. Micheal Savage is doing exactly what the Bible is meant to make him do. Judge people and persecute. A true Christian is a judgemental, persecuting Christian. - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit haha wow im not christian but true Christians are not judgemental nor persecuting... it doesnt state anywhere in the bible to hate those who are not christian... maybe because of your personal experiences with false Christians has cause you to have a atheist stereotypical view on them... just know that if a so called christian is not full of love and caring for you, then they must be false!

[ImaniTMisfit]

@LA213lakers Actually the book of Proverbs is full of verses that instruct Christians to separate themselves from non-believers and avoid associating with them. There are verses that describes God's hatred for people that disobey him.... there are even stories in the Old Testament where Yahweh orders whole communities to be destroyed because they did not recieve the "Word of God". So yes the nature of the Bible is to program a person to hate anyone who does not agree with the Bible. - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit yea and people totally read and follow the old testament smart guy! GOD...hatred? How about punishment... what is suppose to happen to murderers, rapists, and thieves? What are we all suppose to go to heaven?

"its like we don't believe in god because we are living in sin." - tupac

[ImaniTMisfit]

@LA213lakers Yeah youre right people do believe follow the Old Testament. What is suppsoed to happen to murders, rapists and theives? Well according to your Bible they are the people of God. They get to go to eternal paradise just as long as they believe in Jesus. You know how many times the Bible commands that people should be put to death? You know how many times the Bible commands people should be raped? Obviously you don't because you are defending it. - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit doesnt matter if they believe in Jesus....they will only get to go to heaven if ask for forgiveness and live their lives according to the bible. You are just trying to weasel your way out of this but i dont really give a fuck if you go to hell. Christians have it good either way...if there is no god like how you claim then nothing happens to them but if there is a God then your going to burn like they say! If what to be accepted truly as a bisexual then plan 4 happy times in hell!

[ImaniTMisfit]

@LA213lakers You don't really give a fuck if I go to hell? You think your Jesus is gonna let you in with that attitude? All this is based on a place called heaven that you cannot prove exists. But if you're wrong, your whole life has been built on a lie. If you're wrong you have lost everything. What if both of us are wrong and the Muslims are right? Well I guess we are both going to hell.... but dont worry. Luckily for both of us hell doesnt exist either. - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit "your whole life has been built on a lie" im not christian....but there is a god

[ImaniTMisfit]

@LA213lakers Prove it. How do you know? - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit thats where faith kicks in homie.....

[ImaniTMisfit]

@LA213lakers Of course. Faith is about believing something that you have no proof for. Very well, if you want to believe in something that you have no evidence for, be my guest. My thing is, what gives you the right to go around persecuting other people, when YOU CAN EVEN PROVE he exists. - Misfit

[LA213lakers]

@ImaniTMisfit whom i persecuting hm? do you feel offended is that it?

[mario54671]

@theburningattack Good man, sir. As a Christian, you know...of course it also gets me how YouTube is dominated by Atheists, and if someone tries to voice their Christian opinion, they're silenced, but any Atheist that comes on is glorified immediately. YouTube needs Atheists like you. :)

[Rossco602]

the ten commandments are fucking stupid and there are accutally about 613 commandments

[PoliticalWeekly]

@Rossco602

Do you mean the code of Hammurabi

[Rossco602]

@PoliticalWeekly no,in the christian bible as far as i know in Exodus chapter 20 states that there are 14 commandments. elsewhere in the bible we see up to 113 commandments.And obviously we have the traditional 10.ive heard elswere there are ethier 13,60 or 613 but it's quite unclear.

[bedpanX]

How comforting it is to learn that a nonexistent deity is deemed "a conservative" in the scribblings of an angry lunatic.

[nemirn]

Do atheists need to disprove anything?

I don't believe Leprechauns exist, but it's not my responsibility to prove this. Someone who asserts that Leprechauns DO exists has all his work ahead of him...

[thunderheart226]

is he referring to that old tired argument "look around you hes everywhere?" thats not really a good argument...

[chaoss5070]

@thunderheart226 i personally don't believe in the Christian god, but i do agree with him: you'd be blind if you can't see divinity around you.

[thunderheart226]

@chaoss5070 ....cmon that argument has been tackled so many times.what god do you believe in then?

[chaoss5070]

@thunderheart226 i dont believe in any god personally; but i do believe in a higher power that transcends humanity. whether or not this power is conscience is up to interpretation unfortunately. as he even says in the recording god can neither be proven nor disproven, which can perhaps be due to our own constructs of logic. but that aside, i feel that some -not all- atheists brush aside this higher power and have a god complex themselves, thus imagining themselves and their ideas infallible.

[thunderheart226]

@chaoss5070 no god can be disproven if it is from an earth religion. savage might have been referring to a deist god which sounds like what ur saying.but the deist god isnt useful since it doesnt interact with humans i.e miracles and what not.it really depends on what u mean by "god" if u mean christian hindu aztec or islamic god then yes it can be disproven because of its fallible text.if u mean a deist god then no,but whats the point of believing in a deist god since then there is no evidence

[thunderheart226]

@chaoss5070 i think you just dont understand atheists. we may come off as arrogant but thats not the purpose. saying there is no god sounds like taboo thats why ppl think atheists see "themselves as god" but thats not the case.atheists dont claim to know everything its just some things seem more probable.christians can think their god is the one true one and look at their religion as infallible. just look how they treated us when they invaded america =/

[Mostdef]

Atheists do NOT turn religious in bad circumstances.

[tonykeywest08]

@Mostdef oh yeah , when your calamity comes upon you then you will cry out to God for help but then he will be laughing at you and mocking you, haha