A PREGNANT MAN # 2

[vaqar001]

FUCKING SHIT SHES A SHE NO MATTER WHAT...

[jammiejammie12]

he is a girl not a man there for its not a male so ... dont know whats so big about it

[hmgxyoojlus]

i agree with kayles1414, DUDE WE ARE HUMANS, who's perfect!? no one!:)

[lovelight54]

Its a woman, messed up in the head :

1. wants to be a man

2. Alters body

3. Marries a messed up woman

4. Has child

Messed Up Period

Poor child

[scammmacs]

I agree with ineeesa, you all people are so weird and behaves like monkeys. it's sad but these kinds of people makes hate in this world. there is no winning argument of treating a person like this!

[ineeesa]

I do not think that God wanted that you all treat each other like this.. so nasty and disrespectfully.Does one not say one has to go to the next loves like itself? This is really very sad and makes me at the same time also very furious

[ineeesa]

Sorry but you all are acting like a 10-year-old child- if not more badly. Do you deal nothing better than to think to yourselves is it wrong or not that he has delivered a baby (for his woman this not was able) And is it a man or a woman? This is really ridiculous. You are adult people and should also behave so. I as a 16-year-old girl should follow an example in people like you?? In people those who dont accept decisions more different? And against the luck are more different?

[kayles1414]

You lot should seriously be ashamed of yourselves... what year do you live in, 1800? There are so many different people out there nowadays... gays, lesbians, black people, asians, white people. Who cares? I think Thomas, whether he was born a male OR female, has made history with giving birth to his child. Thomas is a man. He CHOOSES to be a man.. you should all get over yourselves and stop being so closed-minded!!

[Aeore506]

What a ridiculous scandal!!... At the end it is a WOMAN. Is not a biological Man.

[mauzinisterice]

the doctor is hot!

[craze1701]

There's nothing new about a woman giving birth. It happens all the time!

[RUSSKIMAFIA]

Fuckn MONGRAL half-cast GOOK bitch, who thinks shes a fuckn man!!!!!!!!! HAAA!!! Fuckn crack whore!

[Melinda7386]

That's fucked up. If you wanna go ahead and change your sex because that's who you feel you are, then go ahead. But to want to be treated like a man and still have a WOMAN'S God-given ability to give life, that's wrong. You're either a man or a woman. That's it. I was born a woman, I'll die a woman, and I never have nor ever will pee on a tree, get someone pregnant, or be on the front lines in battle. I'm just sayin, it's f-d up.

[classyjazzcreations]

No one is saying that you CAN'T. But are you starting your OWN issue, or are we debating the one above, which deals with a 50% transexual having a baby? Do ALL transexuals want to be pregnant? NO. Do ALL mothers who get pregnant hop themselves up on hormones? NO. I'm not the one that will have that child under the microscope for the rest of its life, the mother is. For what? Publicity?

Even you, with your mental deficiancies can see it's not smart.

[classyjazzcreations]

Keep guessing. That one was wrong. Plus, it may surprise you to learn that I don't HATE any of them. I can't possibly hate people with mental issues.

[KamiTonberry]

Being gay or transgendered has NOTHING to do with mental issues.

Where did you grow up? On a farm in Alabama? This is a very close minded comment.

[belindadarlington]

your a moron

[classyjazzcreations]

I'm surprised you can even spell the word, let alone know what one is. A moron would be supporting something that they can't even predict the ramifications of. THAT would be you. You lack understanding AND knowledge.

That would make YOU sad, sick AND sorry.

[belindadarlington]

take you narrow mind and go live in

[classyjazzcreations]

OK, learn to write as well. How is YOUR illiteracy somehow meaning that I possess a narrow mind? At least I can PROVE what I say.

Can YOU? Never mind. I know. Too many big words.

[belindadarlington]

thats right you have WAY to much to say BUT noone is interested, write all you want.

[classyjazzcreations]

Thanks for your permission. Don't need it though. I have much to say, because I, unlike you,possess knowledge. But you are right though, no one IS interested in a person that is of low mental capacity.

[TransEvolution]

"I, unlike you,possess knowledge"

yeah, limited knowledge =P

[classyjazzcreations]

Oh. And you meant you're, and not your.

The way you wrote it means: My moron is you.

Again, you really should learn to read.

The post BEFORE yours, had asked how are innocent people hurt by someone wanting them to accept a lie. I responded to that. YOU are the one who assumed that down low meant downs syndrome. Ummm...the MORON would be WHOM?

Step away from the computer, and pick up a book. Read book.

[MekaMeka916]

classy, dont be surprised by her comments, seriously! (belindadarlington) She actually thinks Vouge is a book, take a look at her profile, its kinda....lame. Take care and you know who is really RIGHT in this situation. :)

[classyjazzcreations]

Reading is quite beneficial. The down-low, is NOT downs syndrome. It's a gay person that lied to a heterosexual person about being gay. Some of those people actually bring HIV home to their hetero wives. Not to mention they cheat on their spouses too.

Innocent people being HURT/killed,because someone wanting them to accept their lies.

These people are living their lives as a lie.

Sometimes the children of these unions are born with HIV. If they get AIDS, they die too.

It's dying from lying.

[MekaMeka916]

OMgosh.... SO TRUE!!!

[classyjazzcreations]

I know it has been around awhile. LOL. My friend used to say it all the time BEFORE Ray died, and I just added the and dead part. It really does make the point, doesn't it? Even a blind AND dead man can see this stuff is nuts, and some that are alive and have eyes can't even see how crazy it is?

[marklincoln]

I love how all the queer mongers claim there's

evidence to prove that they're born that way. All serious studies have ended with the gay rights movement.What if we suddenly decided that bipolar disorder was normal and quit treating them?

[lostxinxthexunknown]

gay peole are born that way! - there is no treatment .... now is there

[classyjazzcreations]

The is no proof either. I challenge you to find it. The research is inconclusive.

Anyway-just because you ARE gay,what gives you the right to play mad scientist on an innocent child? Being Gay is no reason, now is it?

[TransEvolution]

"The is no proof either. I challenge you to find it"

there's proof all around.

technically no1 is born gay, nature doesn't say: you're going to be attracted to the same* sex!

natures says: you're going to be attracted to this* sex.

you're born to either desire women or men.

so u aren't a man who's homosexual, you're a man who's an androphile.

unfortunantly I don't feel like explaining, any1 w/ a brain can figure this out.

its common sense, observation, basic biology.

[marklincoln]

you base this statement on what? Nothing as there is no evidence to support your claim. It's like this one asshole said it and another

repeated it

[classyjazzcreations]

Exactly!

[lostxinxthexunknown]

i'm not saying that what this person is doing is right i'm juat sick of people saying that being gay is a choise - insted of what it is "somthing that your born as" just like you were born staight - :-) i not looking for a figh just trying to clear this up fact

[classyjazzcreations]

"What is clear, however, is that the scientific attempts to demonstrate that homosexual attraction is biologically determined have failed. The major researchers now prominent in the scientific arena-themselves gay activists-have in fact arrived at such conclusions.There is no support in the scientific research for the conclusion that homosexuality is biologically determined."

[TransEvolution]

"is that the scientific attempts to demonstrate that homosexual attraction is biologically determined have failed"

this is probably due to the fact that, scientific attempts to demonstarte that heterosexual attraction is biologically determined has also failed.

Gee, it's no wonder, how are they going to find a "gay-gene" if there no1 has ever found a "straight-gene"?

[classyjazzcreations]

The ACTUAL results of the research...So what YOU are saying, is NOT a fact.

Here is my source:

-- A. Dean Byrd, Ph.D.

Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of Utah School of Medicine

"The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science," Salt Lake City Tribune

May 27, 2001

[classyjazzcreations]

This actually means that the child of this woman won't be born Gay, but because of THEIR lifestyle choice will, if it doesn't have some serious health issues, become acclamated to what THEY want for themselves. How fair is that? What about the child's right to choose later? They are playing "mad scientists".

So if a woman wants to have puppies by a dog,

or if a man wants his dog to have his child,

This is OK, because they were "Born that way"?

[TransEvolution]

"So if a woman wants to have puppies by a dog,

or if a man wants his dog to have his child,

This is OK, because they were "Born that way"?"

1st of all, it is biologically IMPOSSIBLE for a dog to bare a child of a man, & vice versa. Dogs & man have different sex-chromosomes,

HELLO! did you fall asleep in biology?

2nd thomas is a biological female, having a child like any other female, so this is playing "mad scientists" how??

[MekaMeka916]

that is a good point. so basically he is a she with out boobs and arm pit/facial hair...lol

[TransEvolution]

Basically he is just as much of a man as anyone else, he is just as much of a woman as anyone else, why are you segragating something that can't be distinguished??

as a human being, If calling this person a he won't make this person a he, what makes you think calling this person a "she" makes this person a she??

[MekaMeka916]

Actually, no, she is not a man. SHE was born a female and manipulated her body with hormones. Its very simple. She is a female claiming a mans gender. I dont know if she is "playing mad scientist", I doubt it. How ever she wants to live her live, so be it. And as long as the child is loved and taken care of, then I guess none of this really matters...isnt it?

[TransEvolution]

Depends on how you define a man, If you define a man as someone by the way they're born, then no he isn't a man, I define a man upon his request nothing else because it really doesn't matter. I agree he's claiming a mans gender, but what's wrong with that?? He has a man's brain, what do you expect out of him?? Hes just trying to live his life accomodating issues we all have. In a way we all are playing "mad scientist," but I agree as long as the child is loved & taken care of, nothin matters

[DJBrokenHigh]

Scientifically speaking, its neither a man or a woman. Man don't have pussies, therfore they cannot get pregnant.

Psychologically speaking, it doesn't even act like man. I saw this on 20/20 & noticed how emotional he became [like a woman] when the baby kicked him. Many men (including myslef) don't get that emotional when a woman is pregnant. We may jump & shout "hooray!" but we don't act like nannies. Thomas sounds like a nanny when he's pregnant. Sorry but your logic doesn't fit the term

[classyjazzcreations]

Mr. Lee was said to be the first pregnant man. That was back in 2003. Unless he is to remain pregnant for years on end, it was a lie. Who knows why she didn't get a full hysterectomy? She says because one day, she MIGHT want to be a mother?Or is it really that one day she MIGHT change her mind period?

So how truthful,is THAT? Mr. Lee lied for attention. Tracy Thomas could have done this for the same reasons.Why risk having a deformed child to subject it to pure hell on earth,if NOT to be known?

[classyjazzcreations]

I feel sorry for the baby.IF it reaches term, because of the hormones that the mother has taken. Most births don't have THAT added factor. Will it be born with serious defects? And how about how the world will do it? That child will be followed, probed and under the microscope for the rest of its life. Who would put a baby through that kind of torture?

It's beginning right now, BEFORE it's even born. This is sad. It's like a poster for birth control.

[CandiieHearts27]

i say good for him. if the family treats the child well, what is the big problem? why does society define family a certain way? and why is society so rigid? who sets the standards of society and judges others? or rather, who GETS to set the standards of society and judge others?

[CandiieHearts27]

arent there worse people in the world? and isnt there enough significant problems to worry about (that we always turn a blind eye to)? will this affect YOUR family? how will YOU be hurt by it? i mean, there are plenty of heterosexual couples who abuse their children, are they considered a family? are they considered healthy? answer that.

[marilou808]

this is something scarry. Love God the creator makes us all loving.

[aigelkott]

I am glad that God makes you love all beings! Even the ones different from you =)

[classyjazzcreations]

He doesn't make me hate them, He makes me know that they have serious mental disorders and need help. But if I know that I have a different way of life, I wouldn't try to force people to accept it, by hurting innocent people. Ray Charles could see that's not the way to be, and he's blind AND dead.

[aigelkott]

If someone has serious mental disorders and need help, will you try to help them? Or say that they are sick in the head?

How are innocent people hurt by making them accept something??

A Blind Dead guy knew that? how do you know if he is dead?

[classyjazzcreations]

It I strapped down my breasts, stand up at the toilet, wear a moustache and beard everyday. But I was born female, I'm a female.

It doesn't matter what I look like, I'm STILL female. It doesn't matter how I chose to live my life as, I am female and capable of being pregnant. So is Tracy Thomas Beatie. Where's the shocking news?

[aigelkott]

If you identify as female it doesn't matter what you do, you will still be female! But he identifies as male and is male even if he has a uterus and is pregnant. but I agree there is no shocking news, he is just a transguy who got pregnant.

[classyjazzcreations]

It isn't quite as easy as that. By definition, no matter what WE say we are, it's what you are BORN that determines if you are female or male. We can change our appearance with operations, injections or anything else. If you're in to that sort of thing. But most transsexuals don't get a 50/50job done either. Fact remains, if you have a uterus and ovaries, you are a female. If you have a penis and make sperm, you are a male.

This person made herself an IT. A half he, half she. With testostorone.

[aigelkott]

as you said it isn't as easy as that, it is what we are born with and studies have shown that transsexuals are born with brains that are of the opposite gender as their sex, which is why they want to change their body, and some can't afford to go all the way and some chose not to, because of the lack of good options or other reasons but it doesn't change their gender which is not the same as sex.

[classyjazzcreations]

Not one of those studies has been proven with a significant amonunt of data. Gays, Lesbians AND transgender people HAVE been studied to find the frequency of occurances,or if they are born with it, but up until 1973, they were ALL listed under mental illnesses. This could have something to do with the sizes of those brains, However, PROVING the data and research is yet being conducted.

At most, you can say that this explains SOME of them. Not ALL of them.

[aigelkott]

The significant amount of data needed to prove it may be in lacking of ppl to test, I don't know. Being gay or lesbian is just an attraction to a person of a gender and has nothing to do with gender identity.

Them being listed as mental illnesses was just in lack of knowledge, which we now know better and don't do anymore.

Can I ask how this affects you? Do you feel threatened that he calls himself a guy? That he is not 100% anything?

[classyjazzcreations]

Personally, I don't feel threatened, but then I don't feel threatened if someone called themselves a dog either. I feel they are mental and move on. The one thing that bothers me is the lying of it all. Their entire life is a lie. Are YOU O.K. with people that lie to you?

[aigelkott]

YES! Thank YOU! I hate the lying! I hate ppl who lie! And this guy goes out on national TV and says he is a transguy, how much more honest can you get? There are transsexuals who live stealth, and that is their choice, but as long as they don't lie to themselves I don't see a problem in that. I think if you do it for the right reasons there is no greater truth than living as who you really are and I believe this is who he is.

[classyjazzcreations]

Mr. Lee was said to be the first pregnant man. That was back in 2003. Unless he is to remain pregnant for years on end, it was a lie. Who knows why she didn't get a full hysterectomy? She says because one day, she MIGHT want to be a mother?Or is it really that one day she MIGHT change her mind period?

So how truthful,is THAT? Mr. Lee lied for attention. Tracy Thomas could have done this for the same reasons.Why risk having a deformed child to subject it to pure hell on earth,if NOT to be known?

[aigelkott]

So what if he changes his mind?? So what if he wakes up one day and says: Now I believe that I am a woman and want to change my body again! It doesn't make him a lier today, because this is his truth today and what he believes is right. There are lots of famous ppl for bunch of different reasons and if he wants to be known, that is his choice and what is wrong with that?

He may be doing it for money possibly to pay for the kids future, but we all gotta live and we do what we can.

[classyjazzcreations]

You mean, SHE, and it makess her a lier for the simple fact that she is NOT a man, but actually a woman taking enough testostorone to choke a horse! Whom in their right mind would want a baby to go through this just to make themselves known? You CAN'T be thinking about the child, or it's future coming into that mess. High levels of hormones HARM pregnant mothers. With severe consequences on a child's nervous system and heart. You're being too lax on this.

[aigelkott]

If you mean that Thomas is a woman until having had complete surgery.. that means that you are saying that anyone could successfully go from one extreme to the other. So you would be able to take hormones and have some surgeries and feel great as the opposite sex, wow that opens up a lot of oportunities, imagine how well we could understand each other if we all could see both sides! Thomas has been to doctors and checked his hormone level so you can stop worrying about HIS child (not yours).

[classyjazzcreations]

Apparantly not the RIGHT doctor to advise against such craziness. Yes. Let's imagine the posibillaties of a man that decided to marry a dog and impregnate it. You wouldn't be concerned about those babies either would you? I'm glad your God makes you love this woman SO much, as to praise her for Playing God Himself!

[aigelkott]

HAHAHHAHAHA!

You make me scared! If you think that a human being being pregnant artificially is comparable to impregnate a dog and marry it! WHY would YOU marry a dog?? MY GOD???? I don't have one! I just responded to someone else. There is no God, if you believe that you are delusional! And possibly have a mental condition, so I suggest that you seek help from a professional!

[classyjazzcreations]

You are right to laugh, because one is just as funny as the other. But it IS hard to see which one actually IS the village idiot, since only a FOOL would say there is NO God.

Only a delusional person could possibly think that the sun is man made, or just happened. Just like those that try to re-invent birth.

For people like you, I won't say they're trying to play God, I'll say they're trying to play MAD SCIENTIST!

[classyjazzcreations]

Oh! And if you have a professional that YOU are seeing and would like to recommend, I don't need it, They didn't exactly help you with YOUR OWN mental problems, now did they?

Thanks for showing us what a faithless, selfish, attitude turns people into. You unknowingly just proved my point.

The only way that anyone here could be delusional would be the one that chooses to continue a logical debate with an idiot. Continue living your crazy life.

[classyjazzcreations]

Not worrying about HER child,just the fact that some think someone should be applauded for putting an innocent life at such risk.

How do YOU know that this baby is not at risk? Because you HEARD that a doctor says so?

Doctor's don't know everything, and most of this situation still remains to be seen.

It really won't be known for sure until the probing starts after the birth.

How are innocent people hurt by making them accept something??

Ask the baby, wives of down lows with HIV, etc...

[youwatitis]

THATS FCKING GROSS

[thegirlsafan]

This is fascinating.

[giadice17]

A "girl" is pregnant OMG what is the big deal.. That "she" looks like a guy and likes to be call "HE" OMG the world is going to end.. hahahahahaha.

[AvatarsSpirit]

2012

[isocrate27]

That's a clear example of what's wrong in our modern societies. Long live Iran!

[giadice17]

XD thats awesome you go dude

[charmaineJade]

r u serious..thats gross

[belindadarlington]

Your gross!!!

[charmaineJade]

ur gross