Nanny of The Month - November 2009

[rubbersole79]

I think we should all go down to city hall and apply for a permit to wipe our ass.

[TheSGM3]

After watching and reading articles of these monotonous attacks on personal liberty and responsibility - I only come to one simplistic question.

Who the hell do these people think they are?

[pf91rodman]

progressive fucks

[salsa02]

that is just extremely stupid.

[Chibiwaza]

Wait WUT!!?? Lemmie get this right.... The City wants to STOP Churches from Feeding the poor and hungry b

ecause they are located in residential areas and there some sort of law which prevents dining halls to be in residential areas. And feeding the poor counts as a dining hall...

Question! : What's the difference between a "dining hall" and a random gathering of people eating? By this logic, wouldn't they be able to ban BBQ's in the neighborhoods too?

[originaLkomatoast]

@Chibiwaza

Don't give them any ideas or you may have to purchase a permit to fire up your back yard grill.

[consultantmichael]

Ok dont even try and ban my Caffeine, Big A*S T.V. or my good will to others.

Get a freggin life. Less government More people...

[papeluso]

Zoning Laws = Communist Central Planning!

Nicolas Adjuder

Author, Please Break The Law

[copperwaxwing]

5 stars and favored

[PraiseYeshua]

That idiot politician needs a good punch in his face. Better yet, a month being homeless and hungry to see what that's like.

[GOPsithlord]

F*cked up and wrong!

[freemarket11]

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[d0861]

I hope that you and your friend Kate get AIDS and die.

[vinoberg]

Believe it or not people selling caffeinated booze actually is a bad idea. It's main targets are binge drinkers who already drink to the point of passing out, and are now loading themselves up with caffeine so they can't pass out.

What they should be doing, but MADD are too afraid to ever allow, is putting vitamins in our beer.

[mrbriscoe2001]

Did they feed the people while appealing?

[bigdogsdontbark]

what a scumbag this dude is. He probably dont like the fact that the Church is doing this and the democrats aren't getting credit for it.

[johnqpublic81]

He's actually republican.

[SeannyRotten]

Oh HO HO!!!  MODED!!!!!!!!

[NotEasilyRegimented]

Here in SoCal there is a major infestation of the "filthy people". These aids, hepatitis C, and alcohol infected people are a scorge. I use wasp and hornet spray to dispel them from my dumpster where the divers dive for food and redeemable aluminum cans and bottles. Sometimes, when I run out of wasp and hornet spray I use my air horn to shoo them away. Ambulances come every day to rush one overdosed bum to the hospital. They urinate everywhere. They are vermin. Tax paying neighbors deserve too.

[jxwhit8]

i think it is ironic to have a progressive do things that negatively effects their constituents, however, they still find a way to win their votes.

[rtardbox]

zoned for residential - you can't just break the law, no matter how stupid it is

solution? change the zoning. if you can't do that then the church needs to be built somewhere else.

[DoomHippie]

Crazy motherfu...

[fomastephanovitch]

That's sick!

Fuck that kafkaesque zombie, fucking up thanksgiving for the less fortunate!

Nanny states are supposed to do the opposite, but just become bloating corpse-like institutions to house inept, power hungry sadist arts majors.

[sca719]

i hate communist.

[OMGSEASALT]

20 seconds on a video and people are ready to judge, give me a break

[bdeloney1999]

This is a shame, not many churches these days actualy help the poor or people who are down and out due to the economy, the fact that this church is trying to do good in the community should take priority. If someone has complained why and where is the complaint, and does the complaint of the few do justice. This appears to be just another form of rationing put fort in the stimulus package, If you treat people like animals they will act like animals, they was no justice done here!

[johnqpublic81]

In the article I read, the city council was trying to find a place in a non-residential area to continue feeding these people. The problem that many people had was the crime, drug use, and trash that these homeless people were leaving behind while gathering before and after the breakfast.

[iheartdd4eva]

Why should the council find a new place to feed these people? They weren't feeding them in the first place. This was just an attempt to not seem compassionate. If trash was a problem, I find it hard to believe this conscientious congregation, whom are caring enough to feed the hungry, would be so careless about trash. I also think that crime and drug problems are a wonderful reason as to why bring these people into a more positive environment as a church. Stop making apologies for the state.

[johnqpublic81]

Of course they cleaned up the grounds on Church property, but if you read the actual story, you would know that these homeless people were causing a public nuisance outside of church grounds. With the high percentage of mentally ill and drug / alcohol dependent homeless, why is it so hard to believe that they make horrible neighbors?!?

[johnqpublic81]

Do you really believe that homeless people don't bring crime with them?

Do you really think that it is too much of an inconvience to the church to feed them downtown where these people are being bussed from? I think it would be easier to move enough pancakes to feed 150 people then to move 150 people.

THE CHURCH IS THE BAD NEIGHBOR!!!

[iheartdd4eva]

Your compassion for the needy, private charity and private property are so heart warming. Thank god for the state so you can make neighbors do whatever you want.

You poor thing, you're a fascist and a grinch. You could use a hug.

[FatherTime89]

...Wow, how is that move not political suicide?

You are preventing churches from feeding the poor, and they're not using any public money.

Just wow.

[shamgar001]

@FatherTime89

And liberals have the audacity to claim they're all about helping the poor!

[johnqpublic81]

DiCiccio said he and his staff are looking at different locations where the church could serve meals to the homeless.

"The best solution is when the church gets to feed the homeless and the neighbors get to live in peace," DiCiccio said.

This councilman is not a bad person, there were over 100 signatures of residents saying they did not want homeless people being bussed into their neighborhood. This video is VERY MISLEADING!

[septawn]

If its on church property those people need to shut up.

[johnqpublic81]

When their "congregation" starts littering, using drugs, leaving beer bottles, pan handeling, and vandalising on people's private property, then the church needs to take responsibility and move it's pancake breakfast.

[Silvsilvchan]

If some one vandalizes or litters on some one else's private property that INDIVIDUAL should be held accountable. If a dumbass friend of mine comes over to my home, then does something stupid after leaving I am -not- to be held accountable.

[johnqpublic81]

If you keep inviting them over despite them terrorizing the neighborhood after they have vandalized and littered all over your neighbor's private property, i would hold you accountable. Especially, if I pointed out to you that YOUR dumbass friend had been vandalizing my property and asked you to not invite them back over.

[monkeyfire087]

If the police do their jobs is dumb ass friend will not continue to commit vandalism because He will be in jail. the truth is he would not be accountable even if he continued to invite the friend over because what his friend does off of his property is beyond his control and therefore not his responsibilty.

[johnqpublic81]

If the police do their job, then this church will not serve food in a residential area.

[monkeyfire087]

It not the states business who any one feeds on their own private property. the fact is the state should not be involved and this move is just disgusting.

[Silvsilvchan]

Ideally, if that individual kept doing that then I wouldn't be able to invite them over because they'd be in jail. =P

[PraiseYeshua]

You and your ignorant comments. Middle and Rich class people litter, take drugs and pan handle. Half the time you could not tell a homeless person from one that has a residence.

[WSOR4025]

How dare a church feed the poor and hungry, that is the politician's job.

[ChuckRage72]

Man that guy is a fucking asshole. Not that that really needed to be stated.

[johnqpublic81]

No, he's a good councilman that listens to the people he represents.

[FatherTime89]

No he's an asshole for trying to tell the church how to use their own damn property.

[jlewisda]

Good thing Bethsaida was in unincorporated Galilee -- else some Roman Diciccio would have put the kybosh on the miracle of the loaves and fishes.

[tsummerlee]

Nanny state don't like no churches muscling in on their "helps dah po" gig. Churches have been feeding people for thousands of years, but all it takes is one Marxist city council to put the tradition down.

[nonpotentuzi]

OMFG!

[averagejoe040]

You gotta wonder just what gets into guys like this.

He must have some hidden agenda.

No sane man is that worried about zone violations, especially a one day supposed violation.

Have Methodists done him wrong some way?

[johnqpublic81]

People complained about the litter, drug use, vandalism associated with serving homeless people in a residential area. They didn't want that in their part of town. The councilman behaved exactly how his community wanted.

[FatherTime89]

If the church picks up the litter then who cares. (I have a hard time believing homeless people buy spray paint, or destroy much property).

It's their damn property.

[jlewisda]

Word I get is that he favors developers over residents, which is how he outspent his opponent in the last election. That's what was being reported locally back in the summer, anyway.

[averagejoe040]

@johnqpublic81,

You make a good point. I can see that the church may have been a bad neighbor.

Sure, its great to help homeless, but how much vandalism and drug behaviour must you put up with?

This article depicts the councilman as a nanny type but maybe this isn't about interfering with the church.

Maybe it's about how the church is affecting it's neighbors.

Thanks for the heads up.

[th3soulreaper]

wow, nanny of the month = douchebags

[sniper6081]

Wow, what an asshole. Fuck him.

[johnqpublic81]

Actually this city councilman is exactly the kind of councilman i would want in my community. He was RESPONSIVE to the will of his constituents. The community did not want the homeless in their neighborhood.

[shrikedecil]

How could you possibly miss Mayor Bloomberg and the decision to prevent churches from distributing donations containing transfats.

That is: food donated to help starving people chucked because it is non-conforming.

[Morrakiu]

HEY! You can't feed the hungry here!

[RogerOnTheRight]

gummint

[Hellpig]

as if americans needed more proof liberals are the "enemies within"

[lukeedwardsimmons]

Mary Poppins would kick their stupid asses all up and down the street then leave them quivering with her talking umbrella shoved up their rectum. Painful, but hilarious justice.

[Razgriez1]

I think the point, that both sides are missing on the homeless issue, is the fact, that you don't solve one problem, by creating another.

In this case, the Problem: homeless are leaving refuse on the lawns of home owners. on their way to a church trying to do something of good will.

The solution Taken: Ban the church from doing something good

The solution that SHOULD have been taken. Church informs them to not leave trash, and police make sure things stay in check.

[onvogmasaj]

II WANT MAA JOOOOOOSE

[MagnusIan]

Sheesh, even when a church does something great (like feeding the hungry), assholes in government step in and fuck it up. Thanks government douchebags. Am I going to be taxed for walking around naked in my own house? The Nudey Tax you say? D:

[Individualism101]

I'm sure thats on the cards. And you'll be docked carbon credits if you fart in bed, also.

I can think up a few they could pass tomorrow with no opposition: hot shower tax, green lawn tax, two fridge tax, day-time air conditioning tax, pool tax, mail delivery tax, pet tax, toilet flush tax, ice cream tax...

[MagnusIan]

I'm a little surprised the government hasn't implemented the masturbation tax yet! xD

[LLORT3]

only in america

[Deeked]

Excuse me bud, but the order was placed against the church by a democratic socialist. I thought that you are one of them. You my friend are a DUMB ASS! lol

[LLORT3]

i thought the order was placed by an american though

hence the "only in america"

i can't speak for all socialists, and unfortunately i can't give them a piece of my mind!

[truvelocity]

We need infrastructures and reform for the homeless.

[johnqpublic81]

I kinda felt this story just told one side. The property owners in the area complained about the homeless people in their area because some of them were defacating in the yards surrounding the church. Should the property rights of the homeowner's in the area be violated because a church wants to feed the homeless in a residential area? Why couldn't they take the food to where the homeless live?

[cypressz]

I believe the point is that the homeless don't LIVE anywhere. That's why they're homeless.

[johnqpublic81]

There are still places that they regularly sleep at. Many sleep under bridges or at some of the homeless shelters. I'm sure you can think of the part of town where homeless people live in your area. I'm also pretty sure you avoid it.

[TheATrain33]

Maybe you should spend some time feeding the homeless, rather than worrying about your lawn.

[fiacharrey]

Or... maybe the homeless should stay the hell off my lawn!

[johnqpublic81]

I do volunteer work, but I wouldn't want homeless people in my yard. I take great exception to bringing homeless people, many of whom have mental problems, histories of violence and sexual abuse, into a residential neighborhood where children are precent. I live in the suberbs so that my children will be safe, having homeless people wandering around my neighborhood would make them less safe.

[salmongutter]

There are a lot of homeless people who "reside" in the area that that church is located. Just because the church is zoned in a residential area, doesn't mean that it is in the fucking suburbs.

[johnqpublic81]

@salmongutter, Why do you think St Vinnies and the rest of the charity food services locate in the inner city of Phoenix? Hint: Because THAT is where the poor and homeless live. They are traveling in conveys and being bussed in. The residents of the area complained about the increased risk to themselves.

[salmongutter]

@johnq

CrossRoads Methodist Church is located on Central and Northern, not exactly the suburbs.

[johnqpublic81]

I have never been to phoenix, I was basing my opinion off of the news cast. If the residents of that area say they did not have a problem before the pancake breakfast with homeless people, i'm going to believe them.

[johnqpublic81]

@TheATrain33 Funny because if people here who are critical of the neighborhood actually DID any extensive volunteering with the homeless you'd know that one of the most serious rules about volunteering is maintaining safe boundaries. Welcoming them to your neighborhood with open arms does not constitute a very safe boundary.

[b0bzm00s3]

Wow, my hometown was featured on... Wait... That's a bad thing... :(

Seriously, though, most of the people in Phoenix are on the church's side in this matter. Hopefully, they'll amend the charter to allow the church to continue feeding the homeless.

[5bzmom]

So now private citizens can't take their own money and help feed the homeless. Who's gonna feed them? Oh, wait. How 'bout we start a gov't program to take care of that?

[onvogmasaj]

dude im so sorry i accidentally hit the thumbs down...

[NoEoAoRo]

What a cruel busybody!

[bookhound63]

To continue:

Bleeding hearts make a lot of noise about helping those less fortunate, but when it comes down to it, and its in your back yard, all of a sudden the gvmt needs to do something about it.

I say, if you want to help somebody, Then help somebody where you ARE!

But, its so much easier to jut pay a higher tax and let the gvmt take care of it, however inefficient that choice might be. Out of sight, out of mind. At least then you don't have to worry about it, because YOU paid your taxes.

[helltrackrider]

....just another Reason that we no longer live in a FREE Country...Property Rights?

[bertly71]

The only religion you are allowed to have is big government.

[XCritonX]

We wouldn't want churches and charities treating problems that only an all powerful government should be working on! Shame on them for feeding wards of the state.

First the government needs to create a problem, or at least make it so bad its untreatable. Then they can extort massive taxes to treat said problem. Its a great liberty killing racket that keeps armies of politicians employed doing work that other people would do for free. It works for drugs, the economy, health care, and the poor!

[abarzilai664]

Now who would be that stupid to stop a soup kitchen.

[45means45]

I'm a little divided on this one. Apparently they were tearing up the neighborhood and defecating on peoples lawns...

[Raycheetah]

@45means45

If that was the case, yeah, I could see people wanting to enforce the zoning laws. Otherwise, it would be ridiculous. ='[.]'=

[ipwnallnubscuzirock]

well then instead of blaming the rules, they should have taken those responsible and made them take responsibility. The justice system, I am certain, extends over all civilians, even the poor ones. We didn't need new rules, we just needed to enforce old ones.

[bookhound63]

I see your point, but lets look at this. The "soup kitchen" is in a residential area. So, the homeless are starting to move closer to it; into the residential area.

They have to take a dump somewhere, so complaints are made...to the gvmt. "Fix it", they cry.

While the church feeds the homeless.

What if they donate to the church for porta-potties, or for a new addition with showers. Donate for a program to help the homeless get back on their feet. Become a community of action...withOUT the gvmt.

[johnqpublic81]

There were also drug needles in between the alleys. There is also a high probabality that some of these homeless were sex offenders, mentaly disturbed, or violent felons. The point is, I wouldn't want them in my backyard due to the safety risk it would pose on my family.

[bookhound63]

Ok then, where do you propose that we PUT them? They are HOMELESS! They will be in SOMEONE"S neighborhood.

[johnqpublic81]

@bookhound63 Their are already areas in the inner city of Phoenix that have homeless shelters. They are all downtown. Its much more of a safety issue. I'm not proposing putting them anywhere. If anyone is relocating them, it is the minister of their church. This 1:18 snippet does not do the residents of Phoenix justice, it does not explain their side of it.

[bookhound63]

Jesus would be so proud.

For all those nutjobs who say Jesus was a socialist. Do you see what I've been trying to say? Socialism tries to take the place of God, not do God's will. Sociialism requires that ppl put their trust in government, not God.

[Stipoon]

@bookhound63 Trust in god to do what for us exactly?

[bookhound63]

Well, God, through these ppl and their church was FEEDING poor ppl. We are God's hands. People who serve God want to help those less fortunate, but the government has begun to say, "No, you can't do that. The only thing that can help the poor is government."

Trusting in God, also means trusting in his ppl.

[mammuru]

Hah, "nutjob"? Sounds like denial to me. The thing with socialism is that its not so left and right as you think. Both christians and non- christians act in a "socialist" way. Are they economically and socially restrictive? Yes. So whats so nutty about that statement?

[bookhound63]

mammuru, try to understand the difference between charity and government control.

The more we allow the government to "help ppl for us" the more selfish we become. Humans are simple creatures really, we need constant reminders of our humanity and of how important it is to love and to give. We need to experience it first hand.

Paying a big tax and then seeing it squandered instead of used efficiently to actually help the poor is VERY frustrating. WE can do a better job than the government.

[mammuru]

I never agreed with government control or forceful behavior (didn't Jesus destroy the trade between people in a temple?) where are you drawing your assumptions from? I don't think humans need a reminder, we are loving and giving. But religion and other collectivist roots will tell you that you need guidance, to be nannied.

Private charities will always outperform government bureaus, and not to mention the latter is immoral.

[bookhound63]

1) Jesus drove the "money changers" from the temple because they were cheating the ppl. The money changers would be an example of the govt. they were endorsed by the temple (the govt.) to be there.

2) How about,"We need to interact with ppl to stay grounded". Is that better? I don't mean we need things shoved in our faces, but every once in a while we all need to be reminded of things we sometimes forget, like how it feels to be alone, or unloved, or outcast.

[mammuru]

Really they cheated the people. I didn't see no trial. Sounds like he justified his actions just like a government.

Sides, human beings are very self conscious. We are all craving attention, feel unloved, and are alone.

[Betty5150]

Voluntarism is not socialism. Force and coercion is socialism.

[mammuru]

very true :)

[bookhound63]

Of course they want to stop churches from feeding the hungry. That's the government's job.

Every time they can stop good hearted people from giving freely, they can declare that its a need not being met, and make it a government program.

[PEinHK]

Dear Sal,

Fuck you.

Sincerely,

Everyone with a soul

[samuils]

Im speechless

[enotdetcelfer]

Yea, I headdesked when I saw the article about this in the paper... glad you guys picked it up.

[rrush2214]

great vid