Soldiers checking destroyed tanks

[Wolfen443]

Anytime you come across a destroyed tank they said back in the war that you could smell the burning metal or the rotting flesh of the crew, sometimes even see the bodies . Dying in a tank is a terrible way to go.

[bulldogge12]

The real murderer in WW2 wasn't Hitler it was Stalin he killed way more people in his dictature but whatever the winner is writing the history.

[TigerIPanzer]

anyone smell burning commie?

[HelenaXVI]

@TigerIPanzer Nope, I think you're having hallucinations. Maybe it's time to drop your hatred, go out into the fresh air, even try to get laid maybe?

[DA10ificationPRIN10]

shit mi

[patrikasLTL]

-Hey guys i found a huge can in here!

-What about it?

-I think it's beef!

-Well don't you just stand there, bash it open!

[TheKillerspartan117]

aww fuck hitler fuck rommeal or whatever his name is their both jackasses

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

i don't get all the british patriotic comments on this page. sea lion could have happened. germany had A LOT more resources than the uk. yes the raf and royal navy were good, but throwing everything they had at the brits would have eventually resulted in victory.

the german army was superior to the british one. once they had gotten their tanks and stormtroopers over britain would have fallen.

it was hitler's and goering's incompetence that lost the batle of britain, no the german forces

[MokomaSusi]

"sea lion could have happened. "

With what? Germans didn't have landing crafts to do it. Not to mention RN was still in it's full power and was many more times stronger than kriegsmarine.

"the german army was superior to the british one. "

Army was but not the navy and that is the reason why they didn't even try invade UK.

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

hitler was just stupid

1. he aborted the invasion of england, when he could have gone on and gone through with it

2. invasion of russia (+ not giving german troops enough supplies or even winter clothing, it's fucking russia for christ's sake!)

3. (another military mistake) hitler also had the strong idea that all a soldier ever needed was a bolt action rifle, while countries like usa and ussr used submachine guns and semi automatic rifles, which were far better in urban battlefields

[4GooMan]

Don't forget he bailed out the incompetent and cowardly Italians in their failed little adventures, after they stole the Tyrol 20 years earlier. He treated the Ukrainians like sub-humans when they would have welcomed being freed from the commies. Sending forces as far as the Caucasus with Leningrad unsecured. Subduing the Serbs when they would have preferred to have remained neutral. Diverting countless resources to "the final solution" of the Jews. Ad infinitum.

[docjee]

granted, he was an expert tactician, but in the end his arrogance got the best of him.

Patton, Montgomery, Eisnehower, they did a vailant job at countering him.

[4GooMan]

His arrogance got the best of him and he displayed his incompetence midway through 1941. The poor planning for the Russian invasion and bailing out Mussolini predated that. He was washed up when he watched the Dunkirk evacuation unimpeded. And the little corporal never quite figured it out again.

[dean11081988]

i dont think dunkirk was just left to get away if you look at the amount of ships left dead on the beach and all the men tacken prisaner when we couldnt get back but dunkirk was put down as one of the most logistical tryumphs in histery i can see why too when you look at how many britts and french we did get of the beaches in the end

[BradNC11175]

But Hitler did not use the full capability of his armored units to go in for the kill at Dunkirk the way he could have or should have. I am glad he didn't, VERY GLAD. But was that a fuck up on his part or is there some truth to the notion that he wanted to call a truce with the UK in order to get the British to help fight the Russians? There is that theory. Of course it doesn't matter now because what happened happened but it is an interesting theory none the less. If true a foolish plan though.

[dean11081988]

it is said that he did wont britain to join him and theres been many books and tv programs about it but i realy dont think we would have joined him even if he hadnt invaded poland cos if we had it would have taken just a few years before he would have come for us any way and who knows whot would have happened then who knows we never will but america could have fallen to japan too and the world would be a very odd place to be haha

[BradNC11175]

It would have made no sense, Germany and Britian were already at war and both sides had sustained casualties. Unless he thought that by using the Luftwaffa to bomb the English into begging for surrender at any cost. Clearly that was a foolish plan as history shows but even if that were the idea how could either the UK or the Germans really trust one another with the animosity already built up by both? Still foolish to invade Russia before he could seal that deal and then go to war with the US to

[4GooMan]

Adolf Schickelgruber aka Hitler halted the Panzers because Goehring assured him the Luftwaffe could finish the task. Two of the most incompetent "leaders" of all time.

[4GooMan]

Hitler halted the Panzers because he was assured by Herman Goehring that the Luftwaffe would finish the job. Two of history's biggest incompetents.

[BradNC11175]

While U. Grant was president a news reporter asked W.T. Sherman if he would run for president. He had no interest and said "A general belongs on the battlefield and a politician belongs in the state house and one should not go where the other belongs". That pissed off Grant and they weren't friends anymore. But Hitler would have done well to believe that. So would Truman during Korea and Johnson/Nixon during Vietnam. Hitler had brilliant generals and he stood in their way to damned much.

[BradNC11175]

The Japanese lost the war @ Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was devistating no doubt but it was a hollow victory and a hollow victory that isn't followed up on is the same as defeat. They trashed Battleship row and the airfields but left the fuel dumps and dry docks untouched. Then they pulled back instead of pressing the attack further. Those things made it a hollow victory that just pissed the American people off and gave them time to recover. Midway started the down hill ride for the Japanese.

[ffej980]

hitler was one of the greatest military leaders of all time...what about his proposed 144,000 ton battleship...in the end he was trying to fight a war with armies that did not even exist...

[BradNC11175]

How do you figure Hitler was one of the greatest military leaders of all time? He had brilliant commanders under him he would not let do their jobs properly. He wanted to micro manage what they did so much that he really didn't need them. The Nazis would have had a few more victories maybe had he stayed out of the way and let them do their jobs. Plus, much like Saddam he had to much of a fixation on "super guns" and other impractical things that were ineffective. He failed to adapt tactics/R&D.

[dean11081988]

you could be right brad he got the country working agaian but only cos he was massing a army and the things to make war i think if he had stayed out the way things could have been much worse for all the alies so im glad he was a crack pot in the end haha see you soon your friend lee

[BradNC11175]

He certainly became a crack pot Lee no doubt about it. In this country the libs think of Roosevelt as the massiah because "he beat the Nazis and ended the Depression." Bullshit, WWII ended the Depression and put more Americans to work than ever before or since. Your right, Hitler got Germany out of it's fix the same way. Many media outlets (liberal now) thought Hitler was a genius before he started invading countries. Thought we should be like Nazi Germany.

[4GooMan]

You got that right. Things would have been very dire indeed if the Dunkirk evacuation had been stopped. Or if the RAF had been completely destroyed when the Luftwaffe had it in their power to do it. Or if the Bismarck had been kept in port until a viable escort force had been assembled. Or if he hadn't tried to supply an adventure in N.Africa through shipping lanes controlled by the Brits and subject to Brit air bases in the Mediterranean. You're right that we should be glad he was incompetent

[4GooMan]

Hitler knew when the time was ripe to attack France and the secret to the quick success was the flanking movement through the Ardenne forest. Both were viewed as too risky by the high command. After the initial blitzkreig success with the blizkreig in Russia, he abandoned successful tactics. After France, he really had no genius. And bailing Mussolini out of North Africa and Greece cost him ANY chance of winning in Russia. He became a has been rather quickly after his initial genius.

[BradNC11175]

I watched a documentry not long ago on Kliest. The doc. was talking about all these German officers who had been raised from childhood to become great military leaders, been through some of the finest military academies in Europe and spent their whole lives in the military and learning tactics and strategies. Some of those guys were geniuses to! Many were pissed to be following orders from a micro managing corporal who saw action in the trenches of WWI as his sole military experience/training.

[dean11081988]

iv been watching a thing on tv its about the great assassins and at the moment its hittlers turn i realy didnt know how many times they tryed to get rid of him even his closest friends tryed to do away with him so if thats going to happen it looks like no body had any respect for him he even had rommel killed for plotting against him and look how good he was for the war effort

[BradNC11175]

I always thought that Rommel was a great general and considered the best that the Germans had in WWII by both sides. But I watched some interviews not long ago with some German WWII vets talking about Normandy. Most of those guys did not have good things to say about Rommel, they all thought he was one of the shittiest generals the Germans had. I was very surprised to see that. I wonder if that is because they really believed that then and now or if it is because of Hitler's propaganda?

[dean11081988]

most likely yes monty had nothing but good things to say about him but normandy was a disaster for germany the start of the end as churchill said so that could be why they hated him for that

[BradNC11175]

Churchill hit the nail on the button there about Normandy. Before Normandy really in the eyes of the German high command the Western Allies were a "distant threat" if you will and the Germans didn't take them as serious as they should have. But when boots were on the ground in Europe comming from the East and the West at the same time it was all over but the crying, and the Nazis were fucked. You might take one on, or maybe two but your not going to take the UK, USSR and USA on all at once & win

[dean11081988]

thats just whot i thought we had the japs to think of too on that front but withh the island hoppers sorting that out we could get to gripps with gerry and that is whot we all did when the germans wouldnt surender to the russians you sort of know whot dreadfull things they must have gootten up to over there

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

england was no match for germany,, if mr hitler had gone through with bombing of RAF airfields, instead of changing to civillian targets, the RAF could have been defeated and an oversea invasion could have happened.

he was a damn good politician, but a terrible military strategist, oh and he was crazy as balls

ww2 was a war of production, no matter how good german tiger and panther tanks were, the sheer amount of american shermans and russian t34s would always overwhelm them

usa financed it

[BradNC11175]

Certainly if the airfields in England didn't haunt the Nazi war machine earlier they definately did later in the war with the heavy bombing campaigns. Your observation of Hitler as a leader is a fair one and so is your observation of the war of "productivity" if you will. I suppose it is safe to say that at least early in the war perhaps the critical importance of the air war was still not understood by some. I am not sure that early in the war Hitler understood it.

[BradNC11175]

Hitler also had this old time fixation on the concept that "bigger is better" which was proven wrong by the allies. He wanted to have the biggest battleships on the sea. He had to have the biggest tanks on the battlefield which was problematic because in urban warfare in some of those European cities and towns those tanks were to large to negotiate the streets and were fuel hogs even more than they should have been not to mention had many mechanical problems. And no he couldn't mass produce.

[dean11081988]

usa financed it my back side every thing we the britts got of america we paid for we only just finished doing so and hittler or the luftwaffa had already bombed the air feilds to shit and if we hadnt sent bombers over to bomb a few of theres he would have never changed to bombing the civvys he always said he bomb brittain of the face of the planet rammasteinn8italia and look how that turned out he would never invade england cos he would have lost and never got to the beaches

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

look, if hitler had gone on bombing raf airfields, the raf would eventually have been destroyed, then, while the luftwaffe and the kriegsmarine took care of the british navy, troops would have been transported over the channel, and german blitzkrieg tactics would have destroyed britain, just like they did in west and eastern europe.

[dean11081988]

thats bull shit and you know it hittler could have never taken this isle there is only one route they could have come and they would have ended up at dover and there is no real beach there just cliffs and by air they would have been distroyed dont forget when they were bombing civvys they were letting there fighters straif air feilds and bomb them too , so the air field attacks never realy stoped i know you have loyalty in your country but you lost fair and square in the battle of britain

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

yes, but if he had concentrated on the airfields, and disabled THEM ALL then the invasion could have taken place, ill admit i dont know about dover and shit, but they would have had an idea, going around, or something, once the troops would have come over it would have been a piece of cake

i dont know why you're so insisting, it's not like i'm making this shit up ok? whatever your points are, i doubt you're an award-winning military historian, so i'll place my trust in MY sources,

[dean11081988]

your not a aword winning historean too if you were you would know about the cliffs how do you get round them when there is no were to go once you have landed and there was no way of him getting rid of all the air feilds thats whot im trying to say they were too far apart no country could have done it we even had air feilds in yorkshire with air craft comming out there ears you could not have beeten us if you had invaded simple

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

if hitler had not changed the PRIMARY targets of his bombers to civillian targets, and kept bombing raf airfields, (and adopted four propellor bombers, to fly longer distances, which his generals suggested to him) there would have been a likely chance that the raf could not have stopped the german invasion, i do not know about the dover stuff, but i am no strategist/historian, they will have had their ways

i will repeat again, this is only based on what i read and heard in books and movies.

[dean11081988]

and i will say again hittler used everything in his power against the britts and still lost i will not agree with any thing you say not as a britt but as a man who knows whot he is talking about look at goorring hittler said whot else do you need to throw at the english and he said give me spitfires dont watch films about other countrys if you do that you would think america won vietnam and then whent on to win the cold war when we all know thatcher had more to do with it than they did

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

hitler used "all his power" but in the wrong way, he wanted to scare britain into surrender, by killing a lot of civilians but churchill wouldnt give up, until he had stormtroopers knocking on his front door, so that turned out to be useless.

if we hadnt had that austrian idiot leading us, and had spent 100% of our air raids on raf bases, the invasion could have gone through, german troops could have entered britain, blitzkrieg, etc.

[dean11081988]

you are right in one way we will never know whot would have happened but he didnt do it to scare us he tryed to get us to help him and would never have happened im going to say this for the last time ok germany even without hitler would not have taken great britain im not going to say this again there was no chance in hell of geting britain to surender or to infact invade us our navy would have taken you out in the first place our raf would have dumped every one of you luftwaffa and our army

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

if the raf had been disabled as i said, the luftwaffe could have protected troops crossing from the royal navy,

german generals had plans, that were ignored by hitler, look, IT IS NOT CERTAIN BUT

---IF THE RAF HAD BEEN WEAKENED TO THE POINT THAT THEY COULD NOT INTERCEPT CROSSING TROOPS, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PROTECTED BY THE LUFTWAFFE. ALSO THE KRIEGSMARINE COULD HAVE PROTECTED THEM FROM THE ROYAL NAVY AND ... AN INVASION COULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE!!!

[dean11081988]

imposable as well you know there was one point when hittler said to invade it was called duck or something but his genrals told him not to as the weather was bad and after that they told him not to try again as they couldnt win read that on the net the navy wouldnt be beaten the raf well that was just inposable there was just too many of them around our little country just take it in you could not beet us

[4GooMan]

The Kreigsmarine couldn't even protect itself from the Royal Navy. The navy would have stood up well against the Luftwaffe. There would have been tremendous losses, but the Luftwaffe would have been left with just a few Stukas and Goehring would just have a bunch of lame excuses to tell his master.

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

AND

i frankly really dont give a shit anymore, i'm not commenting on this video, it's just ridiculous how immature and single-minded you britty fags are

i just cant repeat what i'm saying over and over again,

all you limey patriots who commented on this video can just suck your queen's dick, which i believe most of you do anyway.

so,

GERMANY COULD HAVE KICKED YOUR ASSES HAD HITLER BEEN SMARTER, BOO-HOO, UNFORTUNATELY THATS WHAT MANY HISTORIANS THINK, I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION!!!!!!!

[dean11081988]

you can always tell when a person has lost there battle on the net they start calling peaple names oh just like you germanys navy was fucked and couldnt do shit look up operation sealion on wikapedia and that will tell you every thing you need to know germany never stood a chance and they wouldnt have even if hittler was the best genral in the world and without him at all there would have never been a war so you cant say if we didnt have him you would have won cos you wouldnt have you knoow that

[4GooMan]

Firstly, anyone who thiks a queen has a dick needs some schooling in basic anatomy. Secondly, I'm not British. Thirdly, why would a German have a chickenshit name like Italia? Didn't those gutless Wops cause the Germans enough trouble?

[dean11081988]

read the one below first] would have destroyed your your storm troopers you were never strong enough to take on the might of britain ever you had italy on your side too and we stiil kept you at bay the books you have been reading by the sounds of it show germany in a better light than they should im not saying it wouldnt have been hard but you would never have stepped foot on british soil thats a fact i have read more than you as you can tell your just too pariotic to know it well done for that

[4GooMan]

There was a window of time that the Luftwaffe had a chance to finish off the RAF, but the British did well at concealing the remnants and recovered. The Germans NEVER understood the importance of air superiority. And the incompetent ass kisser Goehring was worse than having nobody in charge. Neutralizing the Royal Navy would NEVER have happened. If the flanking movement through the Ardenne forest hadn't been made, the Dutch and Brits may have halted the advance. Blitzkrieg in Britain? Dream.

[BradNC11175]

I used to go to Camden Military Acadamy in Camden SC. Prior to being Camden Military Acadamy it was the Carlile Military Academy. Prior to that, during WWII it was an RAF training facility during WWII. The barracks are the origional barracks (unless they have added to them recently) and the airfield is still there and still in use. I didn't even know that while I was there. Found that out just a few years ago.

[4GooMan]

Using his power in the wrong way hardly seems the results of a master politician or military genius. You still haven't posited how the puny Kriegsmarine would have even put a dent in the Royal Navy.

[4GooMan]

My grandmother used to say: "If ifs and ands were pots and pans, beggars would ride to market". The Wehmacht without Panzers would stand no chance. Panzers without petrol and ammo would stand no chance. And this invasion would have been supported by what Navy? The one that kept the Tirpitz in port for the whole war? The one that had to scuttle the Graf Spee? The one that couldn't provide support ships for the Bismarck? Idle dreams.

[panamajack7X]

I dunno... if Germany had forgotten Russia and put everything into Sealion I think Britain would've been steamrolled.

[4GooMan]

If it were not an island maybe. But you need to show me how a puny Kreigsmarine and an incompetently managed Luftwaffe could have accomplished the crossing. Look at the trouble the allies had with Normandy. And they had mastery of the sea and air. The Royal Navy at that time was an incredibly powerful and effective force.

[dean11081988]

that couldnt have happned panamajack7x the german navy was all but gone yes they had subbs but they were not as afective as they thought they would be if hitler had left rusia alone even still sea lion couldnt work there was only one real way they could get here through a small gap in the mines that they knew of and that would have taken them straight to dover there was no way of getting up those cliffs or round them and we were waighting for them so think on before guesing about war friend

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

and i dont know what you're saying about the usa, they sent you loads of supplies and i remember earlier in the war roosevelt gave churchill a check of a couple of billion dollars to finance their war effort.

[dean11081988]

it wasnt a check idiot it was a loan and every penny had to be paid back you realy need to read more british histery before you say any more and american histery too

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

so, you still got the resources which helped you to survive, even if you had to pay them back, its not like its counts as nothing, just cause you have to pay it back, i'll say it this way "without them you would have lost"

and, well i never said anything incorrectly, did i, and well it was a loan IN FORM OF A CHECK, SO WHAT?

without america's major support you would have starved to death

[dean11081988]

now this just made me lough out loud how would we have starved to death we were then and still could be self safishiont when it comes to food at the time of war we were feedind countrys most of us hadnt even herd of so were you get that from i dont know yes we needed america for steel but most of it didnt get through so dont tell me our country couldnt win without the yanks even after the battle of britain we fought you almost alone the rusians were not worth a wank at that time

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

ok, i didnt say im an award winning historian, only that what i am saying is based on what award winning historians say!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT WW2! I WASNT THERE! ALL I AM SAYING IS BASED ON WHAT I READ OR HEARD!

i agree, you were alone at a time, and fought hard yourself

BUT

the usa constantly supplied you with raw materials and food, without them you could not have done what you did, agreed?

[dean11081988]

this could go on to the end of time no you didnt say you was a historian but you made out you knew more than me about a country i love and live in there was no efort from germany to invade england in ww1 you have just said you know nothing about ww2 but yet you still think hittler could have beeten us america helped alot yes but every thing we got from them we paid for even if it ended up the bottom of the chanel we paid for it germany had its helpers too infact germany borowed money

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

look, now you're misinterpreting what i said, i, as you only know about world war two from what i read or heard, no one can ever know for certain and all we can say will always be based on a real historian's opinion who did the research

and the very reliable books that i have read say that if hitler had done as i repeated like five times on this video, there would have been a good CHANCE that he would have won. we will never know,

[4GooMan]

And Germany didn't get resources from occupied France, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Holland? It's irelevant the source. The important thing is the particular country's ability to keep the supply flowing. The Brits kept open the Sea Lanes and the Nazis kept the slave labor busy in the mines, foundries and farms.

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

look u-boots and the luftwaffe could have protected the transport

look all your data is very nicely presented and i bet your mommy is very proud of you for studying so hard, BUT

british, as well as international historians have agreed that if hitler had gone through the strategies involved at invading britain it would have been very likely that he'd succeed.

yes goering was a dumbass, but the chance existed.

[4GooMan]

My mommy? Hell boy, she'd kick your mama's ass! "Quoting" un-named historians makes you a parrot, not a thinker. The U-boat initially had success againt convoys, but suppose you give examples of how they failed against warships? Marine anti-aircraft guns were much more effective than those fixed on land. Your little hypothesis is not grounded in reality.

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

the us helped, without them you wouldnt have managed PERIOD. that is an unarguable point, check the internet if you want, i will not be convinced otherwise.

germany also borrowed, wow we fought a lot more people than you did.

finally i am informed fine about 20th history, maybe i did not know the exact route germany was to use in an invasion, bo-hoo.

and you are just overpatriotic. look hitler had for once listened to his generals you'd have lost, you needed the usa, and im done. stop.

[dean11081988]

germany borowed from every body to create the war machine it created they never thought they would have to pay it back cos they thought they would win well that went tits up and again we didnt need america at all if any thing they needed us more with the japs you know fuck all and you didnt fight more than us look how much bigger than us germany is you tit and the rest italy the boars in africa other countrys that you got involved grow up man you lost simple as that and you could never win

[4GooMan]

Since 1588, the British ruled the waves. Centuries of tactics developed and a numerical superiority the Kreigsmarine could never come close to meant the Brits could be re-supplied from wherever they wanted. And control access to their island. The US did not become involved in Europe until the invasion of Mussolini's little fairy tale country. The Germans, without the foolish invasion of Russia had the better Army. But they would never have been able to project it into Britain.

[4GooMan]

At the time of the Battle of Britain, Canada and Australia were the primary suppliers. How many countries the Germans fought was totally irrelevant at the time of the Battle of Britain. Good to see you're done. I always enjoy accepting a good surrendar.

[4GooMan]

You'll get a totally different opinion if you were to ask the Afrika Corps. The man was a genius, and if adequately supplied would have held North Africa. Hitler had really put him on a short leash by Normandy.

[BradNC11175]

Oh I know Rommel was a brilliant commander. I bought his text book on tactics years ago, Patton used that same book against Rommel when they faced one another to the best of his ability. The "Brilliant" Furhrer was asleep as the allies landed and gave strict orders to his staff not to disturb and no officer was authorized to move troops without his direct authorization. By the time he was awake the Allies already had the beach head secured and that was the beginning of the end.

[ffej980]

my comments are sarcastic...who the hell would build a 144,000 ton battleship... the germans had certain weapons systems that were very good...the 88 artillery piece...the tiger tank...they had several machine guns and machine pistols that were ahead of their time...including the STG-44 Sturmgewehr assault rifle...the nazi wolf pack submarines were lethal until technology caught up with them...i am not praising the germans....

[BradNC11175]

OK my bad it is hard to tell on here at times when people are serious or when they are being sarcastic and joking. I understand the German war planners weren't even planning on starting the war untill 1945. Imagine if they had with the technological advantage they would have followed the plan? The plans called for a far more impressive Naval arsenal by then as well. If the whole German army had been issued the Sturmgewehr instead of small groups of elite soldiers that would be scary.

[ffej980]

no problem...my father was in europe...for the duration of world war 2...take care...

[AnimePrayer]

Does anyone knows some websites where i can download clips like this?

[RiseOfShadowEmpire]

Germany lost the whole army in one city,who's next?

As for the videos description-instead of soldiers write occupiers.

[snowttastic]

it dont mater whos side anyone was on, all those poor bastards still lost they lives just 2 save the fucked up world we live in 2day

R.I.P

BOYS

[BradNC11175]

Agreed

[sjokolade147]

Gut gemacht!

[miklo1942]

yeahh fuck that communist shit tank!!!

[iamzeroedin]

That "communist shit tank" not only defeated the nazis but also won the war for the Russians.

[Trev1er02]

What do you expect? The Red Army was substantially larger than the Wehrmacht and all the Waffen SS units combined, and so was the casualty and death rate in most battles (which testifies to the skill and discipline of the Germans compared to that of their Soviet counterparts which relied on the fact that it was huge and had endless reserves). And besides, without huge quantities of Allied aid to the USSR, the Soviets would never have lasted through the German campaign in the East.

[iamzeroedin]

You're telling me things I already know. I'm a huge WW2 buff. I know how strong the Germans were but as you said, the Russians had aid from Allies and after the T-34 was created, the Germans were in over their heads.

[4GooMan]

And that is precisely why Hitler was an incompetent to even start Operation Barbarossa. It ended like it's ill-fated namesake. The German campaign in the east was spread from the Baltic to the Caucasus with no reliable supply lines and no preparation for General Winter.

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

tiger is better

[ofp877]

And that's only why your country lost the war?

[Rammsteinn8Italia]

actually we lost because we were fighting the rest of the world, and massively ournumbered

[iamzeroedin]

Yes, you lost because Hitler was an idiot and you also lost because these tanks raped the Nazi tanks that were fighting in Russia. Just look up the numbers.

[SukhoiSu37Terminator]

17,000 Russian tanks were destroyed at the early stages of operation Barbarossa. During that time the Germans had 3,350 tanks. Who got raped that time? :)

[iamzeroedin]

What does it matter? The Germans were war criminals and lost the war. The end.

[SukhoiSu37Terminator]

"these tanks raped the Nazi tanks that were fighting in Russia" That's your comment. I'm simply countering it. No need to get into spam war/argument. :)

[iamzeroedin]

Did the tank not win the war for Russia? The only tank that could go toe to toe with the T-34 was the King Tiger but most of the King Tigers were in Western Europe fighting the United States.

[vonFalkenhayn]

Most Tigers on the Western front too fight US-Troops and theire Sherman Tank?! :-D never! Most of german Tanks fight against the Red Army and destoyed T-34´s! ;-)

[punipunipunisher]

Bullshit, Panther was already better than T-34.

You should compare Tiger II rather with Stalin tanks.

[IAmThe1337zor]

haha, perfect. he proves you wrong, and you reply with "who cares, you evil".

Hitler was one of, if not the greatest military leaders of all time, and anyone who cannot accept this, is ignorant.

[crazedbagpiper]

Ha! The Austrian corporal a "great" military leader! LOL!

Keeping the Africa Corps in Tripoli; BRILLIANT! Having 6th army stay in Stalingrad, GENIUS!

Hitler: Everything will be fine when Stiener attacks. LOL!

Hitler=retard; should've kept WW1 moustache too.

He sacked von Manstien, made Rommel kill himself, and gave an army to Himmler!!

"anyone who cannot accept this is ignorant" you Nazi goofballs crack me up. (if I were Jewish I'd kick your butt)

[4GooMan]

You need to study his endless blunders after the victory in France. He did well. For a corporal.

[4GooMan]

The battle of Kursk showed that once the Russians got experience, they were not the pushovers they were in 1941.

[Fetcha200]

@SukhoiSu37Terminator We did but I thank you for not insulting my country and only stating a fact.

[HelenaXVI]

@SukhoiSu37Terminator Ever heard the expression "he who laughs last, laughs best"? War is about imposing your will on the enemy, not about tactical victories. If the Germans had the best army in the world, made such a good start and still fucked it all up, it only shows what stupid bastards they really were.

[Ferreira018]

@SukhoiSu37Terminator Hitler feared the Soviet Union, thats why he never formally declared war and used the non aggression pact to plan a surprise attack...Hitler was just a pussy who got what was coming to him from the heels of red boots.

[tanasexu]

If you look up the numbers my friend the russians lost many more tanks than the germans in ww2.The only thing the Russians had over the germans was quantity of anything men,machines,supply(some sent).Germans are war criminals-ding all were war criminals,more germans died in american pow camps than the other way arround.What does it matter that the russians lost 17k tanks? dunno tens of thousands of lives lost,fathers burried sons and so on while armchair warriors like you comment after 60 years.

[4GooMan]

Fighting the rest of the world was the biggest mistake (of many) Hitler made. Bismarck warned against this. Hitler's high command warned against this. The little corporal just wasn't smart enough to get it.

[4GooMan]

That may be true. But with less than 2000 manufactured, consuming fuel like 3 Russian Tanks, so heavy it couldn't cross most bridges, and plagued with the mechanical difficulties of a new model, it played no significant part in the overall scheme of things.

[gordongate]

first one is an IS 2, the others are T34/85 and i think a T34/76B. shame you cant see the main armaments.

[videoperson]

I can,t figure out what tanks they are in this video can anyone tell me

[albinocobra1]

These are TK guys right ? IV SS panzerkorps/Poland Summer 44.

There's a bunch of stills from this in the Karl Uhlrich (sic.) book.