when the characters kind of go inside grandma's house after encountering their wolves, i ended up thinking about the nightmare stages in Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.....
I personally think that Scarlet's house an death do represent her life and art as has been emphasized but I think there's more to it than that. I think that her being hung from piano wire represents the fact that other people have taken control of her life and she's unable to do anything she wants because someone else has always been pulling the strings as if she was a puppet.
look at the clip carefully. ruby's thing that spins in the room is a BED with a slab cutting it in half. she tried smoking with a guy, car crash, a spinning bed. maybe the guy tried to touch her after they took a ride in the car. not raped. but traumatized by putting herself in danger.
i dont think she died early. closing her eyes and the grandma opening hers could mean her youth stopped in that moment and when she recognizes she wasted her youth, it's too late. she's already an old woman.
Umm, this comment is really late but in addition to what you said about her being torn in half, maybe since one of her legs are broken its like the broken one is a prosthetic and she can't move it which symbolizes when she's trying to fit in and tries to be someone she really isnt and can't really control as apposed to her other leg that she can move on her own and her personality shows through her tights on the good leg.
I was thinking maybe Ruby tried to commit suicide with her boyfriend in a car, got her leg hurt in the process but failed at dying.Then she got outcast because it took place at the school and everyone knew about it.
@baycrum267 i think the opposite, someone she loved died in the crash, she survived feeling guilty and responsible longing for death to be united again with the lost person. She denys that she needs to move on and live her life and not carry the obession of death. The dead person understood her, therefore she feels upset, stereotyped and misunderstood and faces peer pressure in the present from her family and peers, she is labelled and cant change now noone truly understands
Scarlet's battle seems to do with order. Some of her quotes are relevant to that but I forget them. I think you have it wrong in thinking that her house was unkempt. I think the books were actually piled quite neatly, probably into more specific topics than they just were on the shelves. She probably has OCD-like tendencies in arranging things and hates it when things are out of place.
I just realized if Ruby was picked on for the way she looks wanting to die could represent suicide too I know because I was hurt in school cause of my weight and I longed to die so much so the teasing stop I even thought about OD
I think that with Scarlett with her grandmother house and her wolf in one of the images that flash with the long sharp fingers is that she might have left because she couldn't take much more of taking care of her sisters and living in a world without art,later feeling guilty and feeling like a monster for leaving her family or maybe she left for the conductor and she might of had feelings for him but then he ended up using her hence the being hung by piano wires kinda like a puppet
Great analysis. Just a random thought, I noticed that Ruby ran pretty well despite having an injured leg, and so I took it to possibly mean that the brace and limp were her making a bigger deal out of an injury/imperfection to have an excuse to not associate with others.
I read somewhere that the car and the gym might represent something like prom... And that maybe Ruby had a car accident on her prom night and that's why she has the prosthetic leg. I haven't yet watched the other videos, I watch them in order and this is my first time viewing them, so I really hope I see you guys discussing about the items they find too. I think the items actually have symbolism too and they might be there to help you build up their backup story too.
@RaidouFrost I know this is like a late year comment LOL...Dont listen to idiots like 3goodtimes. I COULD NOT find anything like this anywere els. Good job!!!
I think she is disillusioned rather than mature. She is certainly less cheerful so she has already had adversity come to her at an early age when teased and bullied in elementary and middle school for her leg. Her story is totally a different type of tale than that of the other girls.
The bird cage thing is how a lot of that rebel crowd in my town thinks the school is like. A cage that traps them. They can't fit in, or be successful but they're forced be there when they don't want to be so they feel trapped, like Ruby. The pipes could also mean some of the shadier nooks of the school (janitor closets, electrical rooms, roof) that she and her new friends go when they cut class to smoke.
She was an outcast in middle school, and elementary school for her broken leg and consequently, disillusioned and dark attitude towards the world, but found her niche in high school with the similarly disillusioned drug, skater, goth crowd. I think metaphorically, her story is the most realistic, something I could believe to happen today in my suburban middle-class town.
I think Ruby is the stereotypical angst-filled teenager. Goth skater that hangs out at playgrounds (they do in my town). Her house had a hall of lockers and a school gym. She got into drugs and one of her new druggie friends was giving her a ride and they (like many teenagers) got into a car accident and died (maybe her new friend died too).
ruby- its a razor blade on the spinning thing. She became overwhelmed and confused and with no option she slit her wrist. if you notice in her ending one of the quick flashing pictures is of her on the ground with blood coming from her wrist. And im not even trying to be stereotypical
Oh, one more thing about Ruby - I find it very interesting that her leg brace is likely a great source of shame for her, preventing her from fitting in, and yet she is able to run faster than any of the other characters. If this was done deliberately by the designers, then it is something rife with symbolism.
The car that was in the woods has the word "Wolves" apparent in it. This is likely a gang name - a group that provides immediate acceptance, as long as you are willing to do what the rest of the group is doing. It is also a sort of social group associated with all manner of illicit behavior, of children doing adult things, and with death. Always with death.
I don't think that male bashing makes someone a feminist. I think feminist are the ones trying to make the world a better place for women (which has been done for the most part). Women who see men as bad people in general are male bashers and often don't contribute to feminism since most of their time is not spent trying to help women and just spent complaining. I think Scarlet had bad experiences with guys. Either way, I still liked her.
i feel like if she was a radical feminist though she would either mention how women are superior or how theyre repressed by men, which she doesnt. i think shes just a manhater, lol
@IcyBlue487 Scarlet is an idiot, No matter you "experience" with one member of a sex that does not justify her actions. I have met many horrible females, And I have met many horrible males. I have had many horrible experiences with both, Does that define they are bad inherently due their sex? No, It is horribly idiotic to think that. These feminist movements hold no place in this society, They held their place when a change was needed, And that time has passed. This is not 1930.
@TheEnglishAtheist1 I'm going to admit that it has been LONG time since I've looked at anything related to The Path. Everyone does not think the same way. Of course males and females are not inherently bad but in Scarlet's mind men are bad. In America, yes the feminist movements are done for the most part but outside of the USA is another story.
@IcyBlue487 Go to TheAmazingAtheist, And watch "It's only sexist when men do it" He is talking about event. When that is happening today, There is no need for your "movements" they are over. If anything females are see as superior as you can see here. Yet do men need a movement? No, These people need to calm down, And come to your senses with these idiotic sexist things.
Maybe the cage represents how she felt while she was alive, like she was trapped and couldn't escape. So maybe the cage falling shows that she was finally 'free' in death? I think maybe it was suicide.
@ayame400 That's correct. If you look very closely, you can see them pop open in nearly all of them (Save for the ones where it's completely blocked anyways XP )
Cages are empty and after the this school hale immediately we can see a peacock which can mean that she is vane. During the exploration of the woods she tell something like I would to have something to keep idiots far from me like everyone immature boys from her class try to came close or something like that and maybe for that she was so interested with this older guy he was more mature and had cigarettes witch for children can by symbol of adult person.
how is scarlet a feminist? she's a male basher, and that's not what feminism is about, I did like her though, aside from her sexist remarks she was an interesting character. Also her remark about men losing their elegance or something, reminds me of her wolf, he was charming, what she wanted in a "soul mate" he had that elegance that she craved. Of course like all the wolves he turned out to just be wearing a "mask" so to speak which added to the bitterness.
When I was discussing this game n a forum, I was accused on being sick. They thought the game was too crude and the topic was all about sexuality. Thats quite ironic since they consider themselves to be "edgy". Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. Either way, I really...I'm not sure if 'like' or 'enjoy' would be the right verbs to use, but it was interesting.
I agree. The case with Ruby seems to be deeply rooted with her nihilism and desire to be accepted. Surely with a leg brace and limp like that, she'll stand out.
I agree that peer pressure deeply played a root with Ruby's development as a person, and that the death scenes in the end could have represented how so much pressure on her shattered her.
On the case of the bed being torn in half, I'd like to throw in that bedrooms represent privacy as well. Just something to think about.
Couldnt the birdcage also represent something protecting her from the outside sort of like tweety bird and sylvester the cat (i know i spelled it wrong) and granny.
I want to add that I think Scarlet's library with all of the books off of the shelves showed that she had so much to do that she couldn't interact with art in the least. Putting up that many books would take months.
The last room I want to say that the fog shows that she was lost and her dream for art was almost in reach, but then the curtain closed/fell. Her life was taken up of work and no art.
With Ruby, I have to disagree with the car. Because in the failed ending, you didn't see it. Which means that it only happened after meeting the wolf. Plus, you already start out with the prosthetic leg. (Which could symbolize with being torn in half as well)
The empty hallway is in both which could mean that she always felt alone where you're normally surrounded by people.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who guessed this! :P
The car not being there in the Failed ending... Eh, it's a bit too literal compared to the rest of the game. The way I took it was that the car imagery possibly represents things that happened to Ruby to make her so jaded. The leg brace could be from an accident, a disease, a birth defect etc...
I havent gotten this far in your video yet, but when you get to her grandmothers house after you encounter her wolf,everything(art, paintings, tv, decorations) is covered by white drapes in the first few rooms. And theres the point where she says she could not live without art." Dunno if that means anything to you
i think the pianoist killing her means she was killed by what she loved most but i think they would of shown a piano land on her but that what i think :P
Ruby was definitely an interesting case. I definitely think the car crash represents the accident which caused her injury, at school things flipped around and by getting with the right clique she lost her identity. Again, a colission could be taken as her old life, the crash, and her new life, at the school finally coming together, leaving her broken. (Leading to that porcelain doll image.) She became mechanical in identity, thusly losing her roots?
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maybe the car isn't about her death, it's maybe about her memory of injuring her leg.
SailorUnicornMoon 4 months ago
on the site it said that scrlette was 19 and felt like she had to take care of everything and that she felt alone
Imadeupsomething 9 months ago
when the characters kind of go inside grandma's house after encountering their wolves, i ended up thinking about the nightmare stages in Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.....
arikado12 9 months ago
growing old and dying is what those with youth chase after (some knowingly some unknowingly).
being young is what those who lost their youth chases after. for some reason..
AxAie 9 months ago
I personally think that Scarlet's house an death do represent her life and art as has been emphasized but I think there's more to it than that. I think that her being hung from piano wire represents the fact that other people have taken control of her life and she's unable to do anything she wants because someone else has always been pulling the strings as if she was a puppet.
DeeHeartland18 9 months ago
look at the clip carefully. ruby's thing that spins in the room is a BED with a slab cutting it in half. she tried smoking with a guy, car crash, a spinning bed. maybe the guy tried to touch her after they took a ride in the car. not raped. but traumatized by putting herself in danger.
i dont think she died early. closing her eyes and the grandma opening hers could mean her youth stopped in that moment and when she recognizes she wasted her youth, it's too late. she's already an old woman.
AxAie 9 months ago
Umm, this comment is really late but in addition to what you said about her being torn in half, maybe since one of her legs are broken its like the broken one is a prosthetic and she can't move it which symbolizes when she's trying to fit in and tries to be someone she really isnt and can't really control as apposed to her other leg that she can move on her own and her personality shows through her tights on the good leg.
mycrobe4 10 months ago
I was thinking maybe Ruby tried to commit suicide with her boyfriend in a car, got her leg hurt in the process but failed at dying.Then she got outcast because it took place at the school and everyone knew about it.
baycrum267 1 year ago
@baycrum267 i think the opposite, someone she loved died in the crash, she survived feeling guilty and responsible longing for death to be united again with the lost person. She denys that she needs to move on and live her life and not carry the obession of death. The dead person understood her, therefore she feels upset, stereotyped and misunderstood and faces peer pressure in the present from her family and peers, she is labelled and cant change now noone truly understands
patsybob 1 year ago
@patsybob that may actually make more sense. that would explain her obsession with death.
baycrum267 1 year ago
All the grandmother's eyes pop open.
narutofangirl1213 1 year ago
Scarlet's battle seems to do with order. Some of her quotes are relevant to that but I forget them. I think you have it wrong in thinking that her house was unkempt. I think the books were actually piled quite neatly, probably into more specific topics than they just were on the shelves. She probably has OCD-like tendencies in arranging things and hates it when things are out of place.
RagingLion 1 year ago
I just realized if Ruby was picked on for the way she looks wanting to die could represent suicide too I know because I was hurt in school cause of my weight and I longed to die so much so the teasing stop I even thought about OD
simsgirlgem 1 year ago
I thing that Ruby's death is the most traumatic because she died in a state of confusion.
missunderstanding one part of her own... it's so tragic.. as her life was..
tranvozcaya 1 year ago
I think that with Scarlett with her grandmother house and her wolf in one of the images that flash with the long sharp fingers is that she might have left because she couldn't take much more of taking care of her sisters and living in a world without art,later feeling guilty and feeling like a monster for leaving her family or maybe she left for the conductor and she might of had feelings for him but then he ended up using her hence the being hung by piano wires kinda like a puppet
supperchibirobogirl6 1 year ago
Great analysis. Just a random thought, I noticed that Ruby ran pretty well despite having an injured leg, and so I took it to possibly mean that the brace and limp were her making a bigger deal out of an injury/imperfection to have an excuse to not associate with others.
prismcircuits 1 year ago
I read somewhere that the car and the gym might represent something like prom... And that maybe Ruby had a car accident on her prom night and that's why she has the prosthetic leg. I haven't yet watched the other videos, I watch them in order and this is my first time viewing them, so I really hope I see you guys discussing about the items they find too. I think the items actually have symbolism too and they might be there to help you build up their backup story too.
sladurska 1 year ago
wow wolves with all the girls.... and during the gym scene in the beggining the school'mascot was... well "wolves" so yeh....
razorthecurse 1 year ago
Next time be specific if you're talking about radical feminists. There's nothing wrong with being a feminist.
3goodtimes 1 year ago
@3goodtimes
Pretty sure it should have been obvious what I meant.
RaidouFrost 1 year ago 12
Well, it wasn't. It just sounded offensive. I'm not the only one who didn't catch your meaning.
But now that you've explained it, I understand. A note about it in the info section might save you some grief.
3goodtimes 1 year ago
@RaidouFrost I know this is like a late year comment LOL...Dont listen to idiots like 3goodtimes. I COULD NOT find anything like this anywere els. Good job!!!
InTheFaceGamer 3 weeks ago
Your voice is disturbing. I mean the dude.
mygaffer 1 year ago
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Niteangel100 1 year ago
I think she is disillusioned rather than mature. She is certainly less cheerful so she has already had adversity come to her at an early age when teased and bullied in elementary and middle school for her leg. Her story is totally a different type of tale than that of the other girls.
Niteangel100 1 year ago
The bird cage thing is how a lot of that rebel crowd in my town thinks the school is like. A cage that traps them. They can't fit in, or be successful but they're forced be there when they don't want to be so they feel trapped, like Ruby. The pipes could also mean some of the shadier nooks of the school (janitor closets, electrical rooms, roof) that she and her new friends go when they cut class to smoke.
Niteangel100 1 year ago
She was an outcast in middle school, and elementary school for her broken leg and consequently, disillusioned and dark attitude towards the world, but found her niche in high school with the similarly disillusioned drug, skater, goth crowd. I think metaphorically, her story is the most realistic, something I could believe to happen today in my suburban middle-class town.
Niteangel100 1 year ago
I think Ruby is the stereotypical angst-filled teenager. Goth skater that hangs out at playgrounds (they do in my town). Her house had a hall of lockers and a school gym. She got into drugs and one of her new druggie friends was giving her a ride and they (like many teenagers) got into a car accident and died (maybe her new friend died too).
Niteangel100 1 year ago
So, essentially with Ruby, it was basically a "what she wanted didn't truly make her happy" situation. If that makes any sense.
Ultran122 2 years ago
ruby- its a razor blade on the spinning thing. She became overwhelmed and confused and with no option she slit her wrist. if you notice in her ending one of the quick flashing pictures is of her on the ground with blood coming from her wrist. And im not even trying to be stereotypical
daamericanese 2 years ago
Oh, one more thing about Ruby - I find it very interesting that her leg brace is likely a great source of shame for her, preventing her from fitting in, and yet she is able to run faster than any of the other characters. If this was done deliberately by the designers, then it is something rife with symbolism.
gidkath 2 years ago 2
The car that was in the woods has the word "Wolves" apparent in it. This is likely a gang name - a group that provides immediate acceptance, as long as you are willing to do what the rest of the group is doing. It is also a sort of social group associated with all manner of illicit behavior, of children doing adult things, and with death. Always with death.
gidkath 2 years ago
I don't think that male bashing makes someone a feminist. I think feminist are the ones trying to make the world a better place for women (which has been done for the most part). Women who see men as bad people in general are male bashers and often don't contribute to feminism since most of their time is not spent trying to help women and just spent complaining. I think Scarlet had bad experiences with guys. Either way, I still liked her.
IcyBlue487 2 years ago
I was talking about radical feminists.
RaidouFrost 2 years ago 7
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IcyBlue487 2 years ago
Oh ok. I guess she could be seen that way. The Path is of course all about interpretation.
IcyBlue487 2 years ago
i feel like if she was a radical feminist though she would either mention how women are superior or how theyre repressed by men, which she doesnt. i think shes just a manhater, lol
ScholarlySquirrel 2 years ago
@IcyBlue487 Scarlet is an idiot, No matter you "experience" with one member of a sex that does not justify her actions. I have met many horrible females, And I have met many horrible males. I have had many horrible experiences with both, Does that define they are bad inherently due their sex? No, It is horribly idiotic to think that. These feminist movements hold no place in this society, They held their place when a change was needed, And that time has passed. This is not 1930.
TheEnglishAtheist1 6 months ago
@TheEnglishAtheist1 I'm going to admit that it has been LONG time since I've looked at anything related to The Path. Everyone does not think the same way. Of course males and females are not inherently bad but in Scarlet's mind men are bad. In America, yes the feminist movements are done for the most part but outside of the USA is another story.
IcyBlue487 6 months ago
@IcyBlue487 Go to TheAmazingAtheist, And watch "It's only sexist when men do it" He is talking about event. When that is happening today, There is no need for your "movements" they are over. If anything females are see as superior as you can see here. Yet do men need a movement? No, These people need to calm down, And come to your senses with these idiotic sexist things.
TheEnglishAtheist1 6 months ago
@IcyBlue487 all humans suck and should die, the end >_>
JadeDan20 5 months ago
Maybe the cage represents how she felt while she was alive, like she was trapped and couldn't escape. So maybe the cage falling shows that she was finally 'free' in death? I think maybe it was suicide.
ShadowSoldior 2 years ago
i think grama's eyes popped open in every ending you just couldnt see it depending on the angle
ayame400 2 years ago
@ayame400 That's correct. If you look very closely, you can see them pop open in nearly all of them (Save for the ones where it's completely blocked anyways XP )
LilDruid 2 years ago
I thought that scarlet's wolf was a judge because it looked to me that her wolf had a judges wig on
me323 2 years ago
This empty cage could by her virginity that flay away from her.
sweetkompot 2 years ago
Cages are empty and after the this school hale immediately we can see a peacock which can mean that she is vane. During the exploration of the woods she tell something like I would to have something to keep idiots far from me like everyone immature boys from her class try to came close or something like that and maybe for that she was so interested with this older guy he was more mature and had cigarettes witch for children can by symbol of adult person.
sweetkompot 2 years ago
That's so cool RaidouFrost! You sound like a Tauren from Wow!
Fullcast101 2 years ago
how is scarlet a feminist? she's a male basher, and that's not what feminism is about, I did like her though, aside from her sexist remarks she was an interesting character. Also her remark about men losing their elegance or something, reminds me of her wolf, he was charming, what she wanted in a "soul mate" he had that elegance that she craved. Of course like all the wolves he turned out to just be wearing a "mask" so to speak which added to the bitterness.
Japanesemermaid 2 years ago 2
In Ruby's character bio it mentions that another way of killing people is stereotyping them, which could fit in with the cage imagery.
ArtOfMe021 2 years ago
When I was discussing this game n a forum, I was accused on being sick. They thought the game was too crude and the topic was all about sexuality. Thats quite ironic since they consider themselves to be "edgy". Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. Either way, I really...I'm not sure if 'like' or 'enjoy' would be the right verbs to use, but it was interesting.
I don't regret buying it.
I was emotionally attached to Rose and Ruby.
amig90 2 years ago 19
I agree. The case with Ruby seems to be deeply rooted with her nihilism and desire to be accepted. Surely with a leg brace and limp like that, she'll stand out.
I agree that peer pressure deeply played a root with Ruby's development as a person, and that the death scenes in the end could have represented how so much pressure on her shattered her.
On the case of the bed being torn in half, I'd like to throw in that bedrooms represent privacy as well. Just something to think about.
MysteriousEnigmaZ 2 years ago 3
Couldnt the birdcage also represent something protecting her from the outside sort of like tweety bird and sylvester the cat (i know i spelled it wrong) and granny.
Mikato1 2 years ago
I want to add that I think Scarlet's library with all of the books off of the shelves showed that she had so much to do that she couldn't interact with art in the least. Putting up that many books would take months.
The last room I want to say that the fog shows that she was lost and her dream for art was almost in reach, but then the curtain closed/fell. Her life was taken up of work and no art.
MiramaroMartin 2 years ago
With Ruby, I have to disagree with the car. Because in the failed ending, you didn't see it. Which means that it only happened after meeting the wolf. Plus, you already start out with the prosthetic leg. (Which could symbolize with being torn in half as well)
The empty hallway is in both which could mean that she always felt alone where you're normally surrounded by people.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who guessed this! :P
I'm so happy you guys did this.
MiramaroMartin 2 years ago 2
The car not being there in the Failed ending... Eh, it's a bit too literal compared to the rest of the game. The way I took it was that the car imagery possibly represents things that happened to Ruby to make her so jaded. The leg brace could be from an accident, a disease, a birth defect etc...
No problem, we enjoyed it.
RaidouFrost 2 years ago
True true. So obeying the rules and having a wasted life could've prevented something in that sort of trauma from happening.
Though being unable to grow up properly is a trauma all in itself. Damn. I'd hate to be in these girls' predicaments. lol
Oh and I'm subscribing. :P
MiramaroMartin 2 years ago
I havent gotten this far in your video yet, but when you get to her grandmothers house after you encounter her wolf,everything(art, paintings, tv, decorations) is covered by white drapes in the first few rooms. And theres the point where she says she could not live without art." Dunno if that means anything to you
FictionalAffliction 2 years ago
Great analysis^^
ShitoKaworu 2 years ago
i think im a little like ruby (minus the stereotypes and the injury)
SonicNerd91 2 years ago
i think the pianoist killing her means she was killed by what she loved most but i think they would of shown a piano land on her but that what i think :P
elliottmck 2 years ago
Ruby was definitely an interesting case. I definitely think the car crash represents the accident which caused her injury, at school things flipped around and by getting with the right clique she lost her identity. Again, a colission could be taken as her old life, the crash, and her new life, at the school finally coming together, leaving her broken. (Leading to that porcelain doll image.) She became mechanical in identity, thusly losing her roots?
Xzariox 2 years ago
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uhm whats this game?
Xythorx 2 years ago
Um... The Path...
RaidouFrost 2 years ago