Actually , Prophet Muhammad didn't deny that jesus is the christ and the messiah, apparently you havent read the Quran , there is a whole verse in the Quran called (Mariam (Marry) about Jesus and his mother .but Paul did, he denied Jesus christ, he made Jesus God although Jesus himself didn't claim to be God nor did he order his followers to worship him .
34Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."[a] And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
If he is God he would have said(I will forgive you)but he is not God .not only Jesus was able to forgive sins but his students and the priests as well : mathew6:14-15?!!
You said Muhammad was illiterate yet he came up with A book full of miracles were confirmed in our modern time , that is why most of Scientists embraced .
islam .
This is a miracle itself .How could an illiterate man who doesn't know how to read came up with such a miracle book .
@islamresponses111 You aren't too well versed on Mohammed's background, are you. He had a tri-lingual Jewish secretary. He borrowed fables from others, and most of his mishmashed bible remnants he got from the long hours spent with Jabr.
Indeed, so often did Mohammed get a "revelation" shortly after speaking with Jabr, that the local comic nickname for Jabr became "holy spirit".
I have videos about the biography of prophet Muhammad if you want to educate yourself about his real message and his biography, your comments have already been refuted in my videos such as:
watch?v=oi9zFaKebAE
and:
watch?v=nEw-mGlE6V8
and:
watch?v=SKARHpU4WYA
but i will respond to you in brief after that , i hope you do your own research .
Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet sent by God to the people of israel , he never claimed to be God neither he ordered his followers to worship him .and many passages in the bible prove that:
"He had a tri-lingual Jewish secretary" where is your evidence my friend?! stop spreading lies.
What kind of teacher might have taught Muhammad(P) a coherent and complete religion that changed the face of history? Why didn't he or they (if any) speak against the alleged student who continued learning from them, while ignoring them and claiming some other divine source for his teachings?
If Mohammed had been copied from the Holy Book , he would not have scolded them at least to escape their objections and to win them for his side at least to avoid any confrontation with them.
If the Holy Quran copied from the Bible , why does the Holy Quran launch this fierce critique against the Bible concerning the story of Trinity in the Bible but even renounces this fact and most strikingly shows them the source from which they got the concept of Trinity .
The Holy Quran says : ....The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old."
Recent studies and exploration into the ancient religions prove that there were sixteen saviors in the human history , all of them were long anterior of Jesus ,many of the sayings that they .
How could many Jews and Christians amongst his contemporaries become Muslims and believe in his truthfulness if they knew he was copying from their scriptures or learning from their priests or rabbis?
you have to prove to us that the prophet knew Hebrew language and he was able to read since there was no arabic bible at his time .
so answer these questions otherwise stop spreading misinformation and lies about prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
@IslamResponses They knew without question that Mohammed was plagiarizing because he had to create a special sura in a feeble and transparent effort at damage control regarding Jabr.
Sura 16.103 We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.
I already told you his secretary was trilingual. Jabar was foreign but no question he knew Arabic because Mohammed spent long hours with him.
The Qur'an clearly says that Jabr (the Abyssinian slave ), whom the pagan Quraysh were accusing of teaching the Prophet (P) to have taught the Qur'an, could not possible be its source, because he was a foreign person who had little to no understanding of Arabic! The Qur'an was a literary miracle in the Arabic language. It would be impossible for someone who has little knowledge of Arabic to be its source. cont
@IslamResponses I believe most of the early converts were in it for 4/5 of the "spoils of war, booty". Of the property, wives and children stolen from those they murdered.
No true Christian has ever converted to Mohammed's religion. Only those that had deluded themselves into believing they were Christians.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF [IT WERE] POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:24 , this means that there are true prophets that they will be coming which they need to be tested, Paul was a liar and he admit to and he was killed which mean : (Deuteronomy 13:5)implies to him . the rabbis have tested the prophecies on Muhammad and they all matched that he is the expected prophet.
I told you educate yourself about his biography and his message from muslim 's sources not from your perverted missionaries distorted sources.
@IslamResponses ".... stop spreading misinformation and lies about prophet Muhammad peace be upon him."
If I am spreading are lies, why are so many Muslims too afraid to come to the forum where we can have a constructive conversation rather than useless 500 character bits and pieces?
In spite of that 6 of our top 9 volume posters are Muslims. If you like I can dedicate a thread to the two of us. You can click almost any link on my channel page to get there.
So you are repeating an accusation, like so many accusations that the pagan Quraysh and the opponents of the Prophet PBUH made without any proof, to undermine his Message, the same way the Prophets of the old had faced in the past.on the top of that you ignored my questions and didnt answer on one single question and insisted on repeating the same argument which only proves you have no argument to defend
Allah the Almighty answered the criticism fourteen centuries ago in these verses, which say what means:
*{Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say [aught] of [his own] desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by One Mighty in power.}* (An-Najm 53:25)
To deny the divine origin of the Quran christian missionaries who you repeat like a parrot their lies claim that Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) knew all the sources—Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Hanif and ancient Arab beliefs—before he compiled the Quran. However, this ignores the simple fact of his illiteracy that was even acknowledged by the enemies of Islam 1400 years ago. Allah the Almighty also answered this in the Quran, (Al-`Ankabut 29:4849).
{And thou wast not [able] to recite a Book before this [Book came] nor art thou [able] to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed would the talkers of vanities have doubted. Nay here are signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our signs.}
Did Jabr the Abyssinian slave read the Bible of Judas which was found recently in Egypt and only translated into English a few years ago in US . This bible in conformity with the Holy Quran concerning the story of Crucifixion , it states that it was not Jesus who was crucified and some one else was.
Did Jabr know all of these languages that these codices were written in?and taught the prophet them?you need to answer all of my questions or stop spreading your perverted missionaries lies.
I put the resources in most if not in all my videos , i am only trying to answer the lies being spread around by missionaries , but if you wanna seek the truth and know the answers ,you need to read the holy quran and hadith from a neutralized perspective without being biased to any religions .listen to Jesus advice
John5( 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me)
@IslamResponses If you believe what Mohammed taught then perhaps you can provide an "Islam response" to this question.
How did Abraham, Hagar & Ishmael wander across 1000 kilometers of (at that time) unpopulated, unexplored, untraveled and unknown desolate Arabian desert, from Hebron to Mecca, about 900 years before the first caravan route was ever established along the Red Sea?
watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
(let alone over 2000 years before Mecca was ever established)
That is a separate issue altogether, why are you beating around the bush and switching topics? You You accused the Prophet (PBUH) of having sourced the Qur'an from Jabr the Abyssinian slave. Now you are talking about Abrahm and Hajar!!
first of all: the story of Ishmael and Hajar as it mentioned in the Quran, I have uploaded here:
watch?v=hOALmA744NQ
the video is uploaded in this account:(salam752)
Proof from christian Geologists that mount of Sinai is in Saudi Arabia
Yeshua is the way the truth and the life. The only way to the FATHER. If you dont believe then ASK him to show you. He is very very real. Loves you so much. Time is short and TODAY is the day of salvation. Turn to him today. He has heard your crys.. Please trust HIM not man not me.. He loves you. Be ready.. watch and pray.
Why pick on Paul?
watch?v=BuAdmZIoR8c
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored you quoted 1John 2:22
Actually , Prophet Muhammad didn't deny that jesus is the christ and the messiah, apparently you havent read the Quran , there is a whole verse in the Quran called (Mariam (Marry) about Jesus and his mother .but Paul did, he denied Jesus christ, he made Jesus God although Jesus himself didn't claim to be God nor did he order his followers to worship him .
cont
islamresponses111 1 year ago
@islamresponses111 Do you really think you are well served through self-imposed blindness? Aren't you pretending not to have noticed the next verse?
23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
Indeed, Mohammed got his Mary worship ideas from the Roman Catholics.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.
You deny God and follow Mohammed at your own peril.
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
"ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME"
Luke 23:34
34Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."[a] And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
Who gave him the power?! Someone is more powerful than him , this is clear in the following passage :
Luke 10:22 22"All things have been committed to me by my Father. "
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
Luke 23:34
34Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."[a] And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
If he is God he would have said(I will forgive you)but he is not God .not only Jesus was able to forgive sins but his students and the priests as well : mathew6:14-15?!!
So are they God as well?!
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
You said Muhammad was illiterate yet he came up with A book full of miracles were confirmed in our modern time , that is why most of Scientists embraced .
islam .
This is a miracle itself .How could an illiterate man who doesn't know how to read came up with such a miracle book .
use your brain my friend and read the Quran,
watch?v=_CgWbnWpFZ8
islamresponses111 1 year ago
@islamresponses111 You aren't too well versed on Mohammed's background, are you. He had a tri-lingual Jewish secretary. He borrowed fables from others, and most of his mishmashed bible remnants he got from the long hours spent with Jabr.
Indeed, so often did Mohammed get a "revelation" shortly after speaking with Jabr, that the local comic nickname for Jabr became "holy spirit".
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=452.0
Illiteracy has never been a miracle.
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
I have videos about the biography of prophet Muhammad if you want to educate yourself about his real message and his biography, your comments have already been refuted in my videos such as:
watch?v=oi9zFaKebAE
and:
watch?v=nEw-mGlE6V8
and:
watch?v=SKARHpU4WYA
but i will respond to you in brief after that , i hope you do your own research .
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet sent by God to the people of israel , he never claimed to be God neither he ordered his followers to worship him .and many passages in the bible prove that:
John 5:37- John 14:28- Luke 7:16
you can check these channel for more debates: MuslimByChoice-naliakbar -salam752
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
"He had a tri-lingual Jewish secretary" where is your evidence my friend?! stop spreading lies.
What kind of teacher might have taught Muhammad(P) a coherent and complete religion that changed the face of history? Why didn't he or they (if any) speak against the alleged student who continued learning from them, while ignoring them and claiming some other divine source for his teachings?
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Jibrial is the holy sprite and his meeting with prophet Muhammad is mentioned in the bible as a prophecy along with many other prophesies about him :
Isaiah 29
(12 Then the book will be given to the one who is illiterate, saying, Please read this. And he will say, I cannot read.)
"He borrowed fables from others, and most of his mishmashed bible "
If Mohammad borrowed from Judeo-Christian sources,
Why does the Holy Quran scold them
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
If Mohammed had been copied from the Holy Book , he would not have scolded them at least to escape their objections and to win them for his side at least to avoid any confrontation with them.
If the Holy Quran copied from the Bible , why does the Holy Quran launch this fierce critique against the Bible concerning the story of Trinity in the Bible but even renounces this fact and most strikingly shows them the source from which they got the concept of Trinity .
IslamResponses 1 year ago
The Holy Quran says : ....The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old."
Recent studies and exploration into the ancient religions prove that there were sixteen saviors in the human history , all of them were long anterior of Jesus ,many of the sayings that they .
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
How could many Jews and Christians amongst his contemporaries become Muslims and believe in his truthfulness if they knew he was copying from their scriptures or learning from their priests or rabbis?
you have to prove to us that the prophet knew Hebrew language and he was able to read since there was no arabic bible at his time .
so answer these questions otherwise stop spreading misinformation and lies about prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses They knew without question that Mohammed was plagiarizing because he had to create a special sura in a feeble and transparent effort at damage control regarding Jabr.
Sura 16.103 We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.
I already told you his secretary was trilingual. Jabar was foreign but no question he knew Arabic because Mohammed spent long hours with him.
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
The Qur'an clearly says that Jabr (the Abyssinian slave ), whom the pagan Quraysh were accusing of teaching the Prophet (P) to have taught the Qur'an, could not possible be its source, because he was a foreign person who had little to no understanding of Arabic! The Qur'an was a literary miracle in the Arabic language. It would be impossible for someone who has little knowledge of Arabic to be its source. cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses I believe most of the early converts were in it for 4/5 of the "spoils of war, booty". Of the property, wives and children stolen from those they murdered.
No true Christian has ever converted to Mohammed's religion. Only those that had deluded themselves into believing they were Christians.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF [IT WERE] POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the very elect.
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored :
Mat 24:24 , this means that there are true prophets that they will be coming which they need to be tested, Paul was a liar and he admit to and he was killed which mean : (Deuteronomy 13:5)implies to him . the rabbis have tested the prophecies on Muhammad and they all matched that he is the expected prophet.
I told you educate yourself about his biography and his message from muslim 's sources not from your perverted missionaries distorted sources.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses ".... stop spreading misinformation and lies about prophet Muhammad peace be upon him."
If I am spreading are lies, why are so many Muslims too afraid to come to the forum where we can have a constructive conversation rather than useless 500 character bits and pieces?
In spite of that 6 of our top 9 volume posters are Muslims. If you like I can dedicate a thread to the two of us. You can click almost any link on my channel page to get there.
Why don't you come show me the truth?
IslamExplored 1 year ago
So you are repeating an accusation, like so many accusations that the pagan Quraysh and the opponents of the Prophet PBUH made without any proof, to undermine his Message, the same way the Prophets of the old had faced in the past.on the top of that you ignored my questions and didnt answer on one single question and insisted on repeating the same argument which only proves you have no argument to defend
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Allah the Almighty answered the criticism fourteen centuries ago in these verses, which say what means:
*{Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say [aught] of [his own] desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by One Mighty in power.}* (An-Najm 53:25)
IslamResponses 1 year ago
To deny the divine origin of the Quran christian missionaries who you repeat like a parrot their lies claim that Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) knew all the sources—Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Hanif and ancient Arab beliefs—before he compiled the Quran. However, this ignores the simple fact of his illiteracy that was even acknowledged by the enemies of Islam 1400 years ago. Allah the Almighty also answered this in the Quran, (Al-`Ankabut 29:4849).
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
(Al-`Ankabut 29:4849).
{And thou wast not [able] to recite a Book before this [Book came] nor art thou [able] to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed would the talkers of vanities have doubted. Nay here are signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our signs.}
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Did Jabr the Abyssinian slave read the Bible of Judas which was found recently in Egypt and only translated into English a few years ago in US . This bible in conformity with the Holy Quran concerning the story of Crucifixion , it states that it was not Jesus who was crucified and some one else was.
Did Jabr know all of these languages that these codices were written in?and taught the prophet them?you need to answer all of my questions or stop spreading your perverted missionaries lies.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamExplored (Why don't you come show me the truth? )
I put the resources in most if not in all my videos , i am only trying to answer the lies being spread around by missionaries , but if you wanna seek the truth and know the answers ,you need to read the holy quran and hadith from a neutralized perspective without being biased to any religions .listen to Jesus advice
John5( 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me)
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses If you believe what Mohammed taught then perhaps you can provide an "Islam response" to this question.
How did Abraham, Hagar & Ishmael wander across 1000 kilometers of (at that time) unpopulated, unexplored, untraveled and unknown desolate Arabian desert, from Hebron to Mecca, about 900 years before the first caravan route was ever established along the Red Sea?
watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
(let alone over 2000 years before Mecca was ever established)
watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
That is a separate issue altogether, why are you beating around the bush and switching topics? You You accused the Prophet (PBUH) of having sourced the Qur'an from Jabr the Abyssinian slave. Now you are talking about Abrahm and Hajar!!
first of all: the story of Ishmael and Hajar as it mentioned in the Quran, I have uploaded here:
watch?v=hOALmA744NQ
the video is uploaded in this account:(salam752)
Proof from christian Geologists that mount of Sinai is in Saudi Arabia
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
you can find it here:
watch?v=vPzOqzEFoUE
its title:(The search for the real mount of Sinai ) in brother :(ayamen1 )'s account.
you are jumping from one topic to another without being able to answer on one single question of those I have asked .
I hope God guide to his right path but hat depends on your Honesty with yourself.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Yeshua is the way the truth and the life. The only way to the FATHER. If you dont believe then ASK him to show you. He is very very real. Loves you so much. Time is short and TODAY is the day of salvation. Turn to him today. He has heard your crys.. Please trust HIM not man not me.. He loves you. Be ready.. watch and pray.
Dosblade 2 years ago
For this reason Im always saying Christianity is still under fabrication, Judaism is like Islam, cannot be change/modify.
UChannels 3 years ago
thank you
islamresponses111 3 years ago
jtdyman,what do you mean by(set in stone)?
islamresponses111 3 years ago