Lee Sin Jungle Guide Season 2 + Commentary, Runes, Masteries

[LucdDream]

great guide

now i can counter jungle lee sins that use that route :)

[jedidwag]

@LucdDream Heh, whatever works I guess. :-P

[IlGAMEOVERlI]

+20% buffs sucks .-.

[Vakra22]

Nice mastery page 2:04 :D

[Super12345Alex12345]

so stupid

u donnt take +20% on buffs wtf ? ? ? so stupid mate

[kuljd]

tried jungling him at lvl 15 doesnt work out so well since i wont be buying any runes till lvl 20... maybe i should try another route, for now wolves>wraiths>golems>red has been working out well but noone wants to help me, no pull or leash ....

[ImTaaani]

Cant decide, Nocturne or Lee Sin jungle?

[MRAzel1337]

@ImTaaani all :D

[mazgt1]

@ImTaaani I have the same dilema :P

[Ihavenolifeish]

gawlems? golems

[jedidwag]

@Ihavenolifeish That's how we say it in Minnesota. Potato potato, tomato tomato.

[Yorgenification]

No armor? HP Masteries over the jungle dmg redux and return? Just seems pretty weak to me, and since you're getting shitloads of help at the start (which you never get really) its quite hard to see if you're doing ok or not.

[jedidwag]

@Yorgenification You can do it as shown without a pull. Glyphs and seals of choice. I've switched to flat armor and MR. If you want to go 21/0/9 that works too.

[marechal133]

great guide

[jedidwag]

@marechal133 Thanks!

[Eric101point101]

Can this work without the tier 3 runes?

I've focused entirely on buying champions, and only recently realised how useful runes can be and don't have many.

[jedidwag]

@Eric101point101 I haven't tried it without runes. I'm going to just take a guess, and that would be that you can probably do it without runes, but only if you get a really good pull on blue so you have virtually full hp when you're going to wraiths.

[Eric101point101]

@jedidwag lol, don't even know why I asked, I have a route that works just fine xD

[jedidwag]

@Eric101point101 Fair enough! GL HF!

[Eric101point101]

@jedidwag I assume you play NA?

[jedidwag]

@Eric101point101 Yep! I have an EU account, but I don't think I've logged onto it since the split... :-/

[RoTeRShanKz]

Can u make guide for "how gank with lee sin"?

[jackal9301]

what level do you take dragon?

[jedidwag]

@jackal9301 Depends. I usually don't attempt it before I finish my wriggles, and usually I don't try to do it unless my team is helping.

That being said, you can do it pretty safely at level 7 or so if you have wriggles, just don't get caught out of position by the other team.

[notGrimjaw]

What are your thoughts on Bladed armor mastery?

[jedidwag]

@notGrimjaw Meh. In a 1v1 at level 1, a purple caster minion would kill you faster than the bladed mastery would kill the creep. (I'm pretty sure anyway.) It's just kind of pointless.

It doesn't do enough damage to be viable for farming, and it doesn't deal damage to champs. I would just skip it and go for the armor and extra hp.

[vetzigmannetje]

Why you don't get W first for damage absorbing and lifesteal ? And I like to see how you gank :) because I fail ganking with lee sin :)

[Fyrzz]

@vetzigmannetje starting out e is better because not only does it do damage, but the cripple will lower their attack speed and in turn keep you at a higher health

[whiteboy7thstguy]

whenever i jungle with him i die idk how

[SirXtremo]

My question is-- Why not just get the leash for blue to start the jungle? Instead of having a mate leave lane once you have finished the wolf.

[jedidwag]

@SirXtremo You usually get to blue right as it's spawning, so it doesn't delay them more than a second or two.

[SirXtremo]

@jedidwag Ahh I see..much obliged.

[raymix1]

more please and do include warding and ganking. Much respect

[Soulreaperhero]

i would change those cool down for those badass lifesteal quntis

[Gingersk83r]

You sir, have gained a subscriber.

[jedidwag]

@Gingersk83r <3

[MrKryptonX]

This is the same as my route, except I b for boots before ganking

[Sexgeilertypi]

Why dont you go back to wolves after wraiths to optimizie the route?

[jedidwag]

@Sexgeilertypi Someone else said this too, but I don't think it'd be any better / faster. I'll have to try it out for myself.

[aronivars]

This is only for those players who rage over junglers. Let us get to Lvl 3 or 4 before we start ganking. Lvl 2 ganks work for certain champions, but pinging, rageing and shittalking does not help the jungler to gank sooner. It is not the junglers fault if you lose the lane, unless he simply refuses to gank. I hate jungling when players are all game blaming me for their mishaps. If you have anything to say, be polite and the jungler will listen.

[Lithiumberry]

Want exactly that. Tricks on ganking, dragon control, counter jungling / invading, transition. :P

[jedidwag]

@Lithiumberry I might do gank compilation with some tips. :D

[Tian248]

when i saw the jungling video was 2:45 i was all "this has to be fast forwarded"

[jedidwag]

@Tian248 I cut between camps to save you the viewer some time. :D

[Tian248]

@jedidwag i can never find any players smart enough to leash wolves and golems like the in this video

[CanIHasWaterMelon]

:D I'm buying Lee Sin next.

[jedidwag]

@CanIHasWaterMelon I highly recommend him! He's a really fun champ!

[natedawnbob]

your voice puts me to sleep in a good way

[jedidwag]

@natedawnbob :3

[TheGamemonkey505]

I like this but i start at red for with q then get e at lv 2 for an early gank.

[jedidwag]

@TheGamemonkey505 I have a video that shows this off too, only with trynd.

You can do this too, but saying kill red and go gank wouldn't be much of a jungle guide would it. :-P Consider this more of a "Legacy" style jungle video.

[GreenPandasPufftrees]

I don't think the AS runes are necessary, due to LS's passive.

[jedidwag]

@GreenPandasPufftrees I agree. You can build what you like. Armor seals, flat MR glyphs, and armor pen marks are also good. I was playing around with this page, and I probably shouldn't have made it the one I put in the video.

[dabbott416]

Would love some commentary on different item builds and rune builds. I take armor, arp, and mr for jungling lee sin and focus on a more tanky game. Any thoughts? Great video btw.

[jedidwag]

@dabbott416 I usually go warmogs atmas. You can also go phage, bloodthirster, frozen mallet, or something like that.

My rune page in the video is probably not ideal, I probably should've put my non-expieremental page in the video. :-P Ops. It sounds like your runes are fine.

[MrAjay408]

you should try jungling without having ALL of the neutral monsters leashed.

[jedidwag]

@MrAjay408 I did. You can still do the route as shown with the setup shown in a practice game by yourself, and when you hit level 4 you'll have ~70% hp. You'll have lower hp as you jungle though which makes you more susceptible to ganks. There is no reason not to get / have a pull, so I showed a video from a game where I did have a pull.

[magicswordz]

Very basic but great for those who have never done it before. Good Job :)

[jedidwag]

@magicswordz Thanks! I know people and have friends who avoid the jungle like the plague, and I think people that have avoided the jungle up until now should try it out. Lee Sin is a really easy jungle, and hopefully this video can help some people on their merry way to their first jungle experience. :-P

[azur3wrath]

Your voice is just perfect for guides :)

[jedidwag]

@azur3wrath Subscribe. I'll make more. ;-)

[Pieterann]

nice



[mandokir]

>Not taking extended buff duration in utility.

You bad, bro. Also you sound nervous as all hell on the mic, but at least it's a decent mic.

[cesarerich]

@mandokir because you get buffs on lee sin, fucking troll lol.

[Goth47]

@mandokir i too think extended buff duration is needed when you gank i mean more RED more kills.

[jedidwag]

@mandokir Not nervous. I was just unscripted and trying to fill time, so I wasn't speaking out as much as I probably should've. My Garen Ult video is scripted. That is what I sound like when I'm not trying to fill time. :-P

I would put music on the video, but that causes it to get blocked in some countries.  Eventually I want to do my own original background type music for the videos like this, but I don't have the equipment for that quite yet. So until then, commentary. :-P

[Kurrious2030]

just paint those little trees, they will be our little secret.

[kniggitt]

Armor yellow and arm.pen is better because you already have attack speed in your passive

[DarkmoonHooligans]

Hey Jedi, glad to see you posting vids on youtube. Couldn't really watch you alot on MCB because of time differences, so yeah.

-Haris Pilton

[Spreek2]

What do you think about taking cdr in the offensive tree as opposed to crit. I feel like lee sin relies more on his ablities than autoattacks.

[SanderDLM]

Exactly the same route/runes/masteries and mindset as me :O

[jedidwag]

@SanderDLM Dun dun DUNNNN!!!!

[millenbachskater1]

nice vidoe :) more full plesee. lol. and when do you do your streams?

[jedidwag]

@millenbachskater1 My streams aren't on a schedule really. Because of the nature of my job I'm on the road a lot so I stream whenever I can. If you follow me on twitter though I tweet when I'm going live. I also post a bulletin on youtube (when I remember) so it'll show up in your youtube feed if you have those enabled.

[millenbachskater1]

@jedidwag could you post like a few second video just saying your streaming? :x tweeter for some reason, just doesnt like my computer.

[jedidwag]

@millenbachskater1 Eh, those would get pretty spammy and I would feel obligated to remove them afterwards. I post a bulletin to youtube, which should show up in your feed, I think... Unless I misunderstand what bulletins do...

[xdzyI]

Red buff level 1, gank top with Q gg firstblood. 

[jedidwag]

@xdzyI I showed off that trick with Tryndamere in an eariler video where you can start at the enemy red. You can do this with Lee Sin as well obviously.

This is a route to level 4 though. As you can see from the video I posted yesterday, having all your skills at your disposal makes for some pretty effective ganks.

[ElementHappytime]

what item build ?

[jedidwag]

@ElementHappytime Wriggles, Mercs, and from there you can go different directions.

The way I usually go is warmogs atmas, trinity, force of nature. You can also do something like bloodthirster, frozen mallet, phantom. Play around with it and see what works for you.

Lee has a tendency to get focused really hard, so I recommend building pretty tanky.

[ElementHappytime]

MORE LEE SIN!

[NastyBigD]

gj bro

[NastyBigD]

first boom lol