Responses to Pro-Abortion Politicians: Many Issues

[humanistheart]

This makes no sense. Children, including the unborn, are killed by Yahweh or by his chosen people in mass infanticides throughout the bibles, so what bases does a christian have to be against abortion? None that I can see.

[RepresentingTruth]

@humanistheart  You forget that God is the giver of life. He is to decide not us.

[sjakie2408]

Again, No consideration for the safety of the mother.

Pavones video on womens health is pathetic

[MrAbolitionist]

thank you, this finally gives a good philosophy on how to look at right to life issues, I would say however, that there was a Pro-Life, Anti-war candidate, his name is Ron Paul, and I'll also say that just as Pro-abort politicians shouldn't use there position on foreign policy to justify abortion, Pro-war politicians shouldn't use their position on abortion to justify pre-emptive war

[RPenta]

Fr. Pavone is a phoney and a con-man; a neo-con man--Bush and the Repubs can lie us into wars, and bomb, terrorize, plunder the entire planet by every means at their command--but because they are meaninglessly "pro-life" the get the benediction from flaks like Fr. Pavone. The truth is, America is controlled by two corrupt and venal parties who are both part of the War Party--and naturally Israel is a favorite of theirs--one is a Wall Street Party, the other is an Oil-Nuke-Coal Party.

[TheGreatRL]

priests are pro life so they can have more kids to molest.

[KnightOwl2006]

@TheGreatRL  You're an asshole.

[TheGreatRL]

@KnightOwl2006 At least i'm an honest asshole :)

[jesusisbIing]

Legal Abortion Death: Pamela Colson, 31

Pamela Colson, age 31, was 12 weeks pregnant when friends drive her to Women's Medical Services in Pensacola, Florida, for a safe and legal abortion.

[pickledbill22]

Now who is an influential leader among the anti-abortion movement that might have names of domestic terrorists and details of there plans? Hmm, who could the government waterboard to get answers? Where are we going to find a leader of the anti-abortion movement like that?

[pickledbill22]

Why is the government not investigating these groups with ties to domestic terrorism? How long will the government let Rush L:imbaugh back them down so that these monsters can murder again? Government knew domestic terrorists were going to strike, Lets round a few up, waterboard them, and get them to talk.

[christinepeace]

Ref your comment to me that pregnancy to people like me is an INCONVENANCE; it is amazing to me that without even meeting me you know for a fact that a pregnancy would be an inconvenience! Listen up! I am unable to have children but if I could I would as the people who have actually met me say, make a wonderful mother! Abortion is not an easy call for a woman to make, but it is her own decision to make not yours or anyone else to make.

[godzac]

I wonder what would happen if he changed his clothes... His message would get across to no one.

[godzac]

Aw shit, look what he's wearing. How can I take him seriously?

I could say I'm his grandfather, and he'd probably believe me. After all, he does believe some 'guy' made the entire cosmos 6000 years ago :(

[SinistaPlot]

"Pro-Life is ultimately pro-back-alley abortion."

You really should elaborate on this statement. Granting human beings rights has never stopped some people from initiating violent force against them. Consider the fact that we have some women dispose of babies a few days after birth and those babies have full protection under the law.

[christinepeace]

Perhaps your time would be better spent teach youth how to us birth control, oh thats right you guys are aganst birth control too. Following your plan people are trapped into teenage pregnancy, poverty, and ingnerance.

[Jessica4God]

christinepeace: What a loving mother you would be! I pray to God that no child's right to live gets in the way of your desire to protect yourself, most of all from the real issue that motivates people like you: INCONVENIENCE. What a misfortune it would be to be conceived in your womb! A person would have the same chance of coming out alive as from a Nazi concentration camp, where the value of keeping someone alive was determined on the personal whim of deluded self-righteous freak like you!

[godzac]

DELUDED? DID I JUST SEE A CHRISTIAN CALL SOMEONE ELSE DELUDED?

You have made my day, little girl.

[christinepeace]

Sir the fondations of houses can be fixed or changed to fit the owners spesification, not yours. You hit the nail one the head, people do have the right to life. Which means a woman has the right to choose in her life how to best procerve her life. A womans life and the preservation of that life includes the termination of a group of her own cells in her own uterus. My uterus my house stay the hell out.

[SinistaPlot]

"My uterus my house stay the hell out."

You're the one that CHOSE to put the human being into your womb. So did you choose to put the human being in your womb just to murder it?

[AnisahD]

I find it interesting how Americans can debate the rights of women's bodies so freely... and yet claim Islam oppresses women. Isn't this religious ideology you all support equal that of the Taliban? Aren't you wanting to control women? Control their bodies as if YOU OWN Them? You & your churches & your lawyers. BUT wait... do you take care of the children who exist already? Do you care for the Children at Crow Creek rez or Pine Ridge? No. Who cares about the living children? Obviously not you

[SuzNews727]

The abortion issue is about legality, not personal opinion. Fact: abortion is, and always has been, directly related to unwanted pregnancies, not legality. 1 in 3 women will get an abortion in her lifetime whether it is legal or not. Outlawing safe procedures only promote back-alley abortiions, such as taking a coat hanger to the uterus or swallowing caustic chemicals. Promote the prevention of unwanted pregnancies with both abstinence AND contraception education and you'll reduce abortion.

[Toz1337II]

right, because any woman is gonna be stupid enough to ram a coat hanger up there. Just have the kid and put it up for adoption. Why are you making this innocent child pay for the mistakes of its mother? (or father in the case of rape)

[SuzNews727]

It's not a matter of being stupid. It's a matter of being desperate. You're forgetting, or not understanding how sacred, radical, and important the job of pregnancy is, as well as the stigmas that go along with it at home, at work, and throughout society, and how pregnancy can keep a woman from working if she's experiencing physical challenges (and most women experience some, if not a lot).

Pregnancy and children are too important to use as punishment for a moment of failed contraception.

[TheIambicPen]

I think that if one really recognizes children as important, then one would not see them as "punishment for a moment of failed contraception."

[SuzNews727]

Please. It's these kind of absurd accusations and 'taking out of context' that keep us from focusing on what would actually reduce abortion. Please find my other comments and get up to speed by learning what the issue is actually about. Only comment when you have something intellegent to add to the discussion.

[TheIambicPen]

I do believe, however, that if children are genuinely recognized as important, that in itself will go a long way toward reducing abortions. If people see pregnancy and children as the natural result of sexual activity, and not the result of something going "wrong," they will be more likely to embrace the new life, rather than think of ways to terminate it. It is a matter of attitude, not simply a matter of law. As you have said, people seek abortion, whether it is legal or not.

[TeamCrusade]

If my grandma's healt care bill is too high and I can't afford it, so how about we kill her instead?

[ambrocal]

essai

[prolifeinternational]

P.S. I`ve learned that unfortunate events in our lives can be used in two opposing ways.. Either for good benefical purposes or for bad detrimental purposes.. The first option is the mature choice. Goodbye and good luck!

[prolifeinternational]

cont.. In the footage, the Planned Parenthood nurse describes to the pregnant woman that an abortion at such a late stage would entail delivering her son and,after the woman asks if the baby can be born alive,the nurse admits that "it does happen, but it wouldn't be able to survive on its own so eventually the baby does die."

[prolifeinternational]

Students for Life of America have released undercover footage of a nurse at a Title X, federally funded Freehold, New Jersey Planned Parenthood facility describing how an abortion would be performed on a 22 week unborn child. cont

[prolifeinternational]

Although the improving technology will undoubtedly result in just one embryo being produced for each IVF procedure;currently there is often an overproduction of embryos needed.. These can,however, be stored for later implantation.

[ambrocal]

"Although the improving technology will undoubtedly result "

"Will" is not "now", your sister agreed to murder according to you !!!

"These can,however, be stored for later implantation. "

"can" but not all will be reimplanted cause there are too many, so will be thrown away! MURDER !!! lol!

[prolifeinternational]

ambrocal Re "MURDER !!! lol!" I don`t think that somebody who has aborted their own living growing child is in a strong position to make such a judgement,besides which my sister has NEVER had IVF! I`ve made a big mistake in thinking that there might be potential progress in responding to you,when you keep replying to my comments to OTHERS! But I have learned my lesson and will now permenently refrain from doing so. But you do have my symapthy as I can see that life hasn`t been kind to you.

[ambrocal]

"I don`t think that somebody who has aborted their own living growing child is in a strong position to make such a judgement,"

I'm prochoice and don't think ANYBODY who had an abortion is a murderer, unlike you!

"besides which my sister has NEVER had IVF!"

Too late to deny this now, should have said so previous post, so you really are a proliar now!

"But you do have my symapthy as I can see that life hasn`t been kind to you. "

Thanks, I like when you show humanity!

[prolifeinternational]

Re "Abortion is not a crime against humanity." It currently kills about 42,000,000 annually..so considerably more than most other recorded crimes against humanity..COMBINED!

[prolifeinternational]

roac Re " 2 The concept of personhood is different from the concept of human life. Human life occurs at conception,but fertilized eggs used for in vitro fertilization are also human lives and those not implanted are routinely thrown away. Is this murder,and if not,then how is abortion murder?" To deliberately dispose of living human embryos is undoubtedly a form of murder,just as it is to deliberately kill an unborn baby. But,unlike the murder of the born,there are no penalties for the killers.

[ambrocal]

propia re

"To deliberately dispose of living human embryos is undoubtedly a form of murder,"

I hope you said so to your murderer sister that had recorse to an IVF then? Cause undoubtedly, using IVF technology implies throwing away exceeding embryos.

[prolifeinternational]

roac Re "it is not a separate entity" But it most DEFINITELY is and I challenge you to produce supportin evidence to the contrary.. Re "Nearly all abortions take place in the first trimester" Which country are you refering too..or is this a sweeping worldwide generalisation?

[roac7777]

Nearly all abortions take place in the first trimester, when a fetus cannot exist independent of the mother. As it is attached by the placenta and umbilical cord, its health is dependent on her health, and cannot be regarded as a separate entity as it cannot exist outside her womb.

This should clear this subject up. To all you antiabortionists, focus on some worth while cause instead of your catholic propaganda

[prolifeinternational]

roac Re "Nearly all abortions take place in the first trimester" Which country are you refering to? Re "its health is dependent on her health, and cannot be regarded as a separate entity " But it IS a SEPERATE entity..it has it`s own UNIQUE DNA. Re "This should clear this subject up" Not in the least. Re "To all you antiabortionists, focus on some worth while cause instead of your catholic propaganda " Do you have a vested interest in abortion staying liberal and legal?

[roac7777]

No prolie it is not a separate entity, I am tired of your dogmatic rhetoric, do us all a favour and go and play on a minefield in Iraq.

[prolifeinternational]

roac Do you have a vested interest in abortion staying liberal and legal?

[roac7777]

Not me personally, I just dont like people messing into other peoples, affairs.

I am not asking you to have an abortion, I am asking you not to meddle and tell other people what to do.

[prolifeinternational]

roac Re "Not me personally," Perhaps a family member? Re " I just dont like people messing into other peoples, affairs.

..I am asking you not to meddle and tell other people what to do." By this logic should we all then just stfu about ALL matters of serious concern and crimes against humanity..and let them flourish unopposed?

[roac7777]

Abortion is not a crime against humanity. Life does not occur at conception you are a liar.

You are obsessed by abortion, dont you ever talk or think about anything else.

Dont talk to me again. Ive given you plenty of good reasons why abortion is just a medical procedure, its the mothers choice, not your business to interfere.

[prolifeinternational]

roac Seems you`e not even fully conversant with your OWN mindless propaganda! In no.2 of your contrived list,that you`ve been mailing (uninvited) to people all over youtube,to promote abortion,you claim quote; "Human life occurs at conception.."unquote.. NOW you are claiming "Life does not occur at conception you are a liar." So who is the "LIAR" here?

[roac7777]

Heres the thing Mr Pavone, abortion is not murder its the removal of a foetus, full stop.

[prolifeinternational]

roac7777 Re "abortion is not murder its the removal of a foetus, full stop." Have you e.g. actually witnessed the removal of a living fetus at 24 weeks?

[utubevisitor2008]

Our own science identifies an unborn baby to have a separate DNA from the mother, this is not a mass growth like a tumor to be removed. This person has his/her own heart beat also. The science convicts this position. I hope and pray that soon the whole pro abortion movement can be convinced not by just the science, but by their own consciences. Seek the truth and as Jesus promises it will set you free.

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

what a tit, prolifeinternational is a fag.

[prolifeinternational]

America Re "what a tit, prolifeinternational is a fag." Is there,unlike this recent comment and your curious choice of username,any chance at all of you making an intelligent point here?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

absolutely not, but that doesn't change the very real fact that you are, and forever will be; a cockgobbler, fanny bandit, fruitcake, or MeatWhore.

[prolifeinternational]

America.. Oh well,never mind.. I gave you the benefit of the doubt because I thought maybe deep down you had something of merit and substance to contribute here,but it seems you`ve just eaten a book of delinquent swear words... Have a nice life!

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

eaten a book of delinquent swear words?? how juvenile is 'swear words' anyway? i mean, cusses maybe, but swear words? So childish. And as for "eating a book..", how the fuck does that have anything at all to do with me swearing? If you eat "Hamlet", does that mean you know every line? your a fucking joke.

[prolifeinternational]

AmericaF Ever heard of metaphors? But like I said,have a nice life,I guess with all the "cusses" and aggressive attitude it evidently hasn`t been too kind to you so far.

[ambrocal]

LONDON blah, blah... nothing but pro life propaganda!!

[utubevisitor2008]

You can say blah, blah, blah, because you have a life, many are not so fortunate. Think about it.

[prolifeinternational]

LONDON, September 17, 2008 - The invasive procedures used to detect Down syndrome in unborn children result in the miscarriages of two healthy children for every three Down babies detected, a British study has found.

The study's researchers, from the charity Down Syndrome Education International (DSEI), estimate that in the process of detecting and aborting 660 Down babies annually, screening leads to the deaths of 400 babies,who do not have the disorder,in England and Wales alone.

[ambrocal]

Well said dude !!

[ambrocal]

You already know for long that I don't consider a fetus a full human being. If it POs you, too good!

I could consider YOU a nazi, denigrating human beings' rights (a woman's right to choose, is still a right), and thus trying to dictate/impose your points of view!

What is my nazi terminology? Saying a fetus is a parasite? Go fight science univ. and biology terminology as well then!

[prolifeinternational]

ambrocal Re "What is my nazi terminology? Saying a fetus is a parasite?" Well didn`t the nazis use similar terms for the Jews and others?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

Nazis also said 'people' and 'superior' and 'the' and 'a' and 'toster strudels', does that make anyone who sais those words a nazi? No. Stop comparing people to nazis/hitler, because more oft then not it's an iligitemate simile. And no, absolutely no one here is anti-abortion. Everyone here is pro-life(exept for emos) but we aren't stupid enough to think fetuses are humans, and thus aren't 'lives'. Your a tit, you know that?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

ambrocal, jsut leave this stupid fuck alone. He is a blind retard, and he truely cannot see how stupid his comments are. He can't argue worth shit, and thinks he's a fucking genious for comming up with such lame ass insults. Honest to god, his responce to me saying "fetuses can't feel pain" was "incorrect!", thats all. He said, "Incorrect!(and if your still not convinced...)" as though he totaly shattered my argument. He's a total clit.

[prolifeinternational]

America What has happened to you? Why all the anger,prejudice(in you username too!),and delinquent swearing? What happened to your heart?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

what happened to me? I grew up. Maybe you should too.

[prolifeinternational]

America Re "I grew up. Maybe you should too" If you`re an example of a mature adult then I`d much rather stay as I am thanks! What is your particular interest to look at Father Pavone`s messages?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

So, your immature and un-adult? Becasue that's what you implied. I enjoy arguing with pro-lifers, because so few of them have good arguments, and it's so simple to out wit them. It's like bullies beating on younger, weaker people.. only i'm doing it with my mind.

[prolifeinternational]

America Re "So, your immature and un-adult? Becasue that's what you implied." But you don`t understand. I said if you`re holding yourself up as an example of a "mature adult" then I`d rather stay as I am.. Btw since when did mature adults call people "tits" and "clits"? But at least you did admit to being a bully,so maybe you are not beyond all hope?.. You never did say what was your purpose for being here..or is it JUST to be a bully with your mind?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

Well, if you re-read what you said; "If you`re an example of a mature adult then I`d much rather stay as I am thanks!", thus, you'd rather stay as you are, ie, not mature. Tit is a world meaning 'dumb', same as Boob. It goes back to the 30s, so yah, suck it. read 'the hobbit', theres a part all the kiddies laugh at cuz the trolls call each other boobs. tit means the same. clit is short for 'clitorus', wich is a scientific terme. if i was immature, id have said 'pussy' or something.

[prolifeinternational]

America Re "thus, you'd rather stay as you are, ie, not mature." WRONG! The point I made was that I do not want to beat all like you! The fact that you`re so deluded to think you`re a mature adult is YOUR problem,not mine. But again,you claim to have NO CARE at all for unborn life,so why do you watch these videos of Father Pavone`s?

[ambrocal]

They are on UTube, it's called freedom, and obviously it's a notion you don't understand !

[prolifeinternational]

But it wasn`t directed at you.

[ambrocal]

So what? Can't i comment?

[prolifeinternational]

Why would you want to do that?

[ambrocal]

Why wouldn't i want to do that?

[prolifeinternational]

Because it wasn`t your question.

[ambrocal]

so?

[ambrocal]

Yes I totally denigrate fetuses' right compared to women's right, whether you like it or not!

[prolifeinternational]

ambrocal .. But percieved "rights" are one thing to denigrate ..i.e. I would denigrate e.g. the perverse notion of a "womans right to choose" but certainly NOT the women!.. But for you to actually denigrate the unborn children themselves by attempting to dehumaniize them with nazi style terminology is BENEATH CONTEMPT!

[ambrocal]

Fetuses are parasites to their mother. Taught in any science course of any laic university (abortion propaganda school? --> LOL). Just read and learn what the definition of parasite is.

[prolifeinternational]

Hey ambrocal Re "Fetuses are parasites to their mother" Yes,just like we are ALL parasites to the planet Earth! But so what?.. Or are you just seeking to denigrate those that are vulnerable and at risk of being murdered,using dehumanizing nazi style propaganda?

[4nonimous]

At the very least, the mother should be allowed to remove it from her and let it fend for it's self. Since a fetus cannot do this, and would wither away and die a slow painful death, isn't it more humane to just kill it rapidly? Saying the mother MUST keep the fetus against her will would be similar to forcing working families to take in crazy homeless people, because they cannot fend for themselves and would soon die pre-maturely. Focus on the people who are living, not on the ones waiting to.

[prolifeinternational]

"Focus on the people who are living, not on the ones waiting to." But the unborn ARE already living and they ARE already here..you just can`t see them yet,except with ultrasound!

[4nonimous]

They do not have their own lives, they scrounge a pathetic, un sentient existence from the mother by parasiticaly leaching sustanence from her body. I know of another time you can see them you forgot to mention; when they are sucked out of the womb by a giant fucking vaccume and die a slow horrble death at the bottom of a sac. And do you know why this happens? Because you touch yourself at night. If you think it's so wrong, do something about it instead of bitching on youtube!

[4nonimous]

pro, and just to anticipate a possible next comment; I don't need to go and do something instead of sitting around commenting on these videos, because abortion is legal and thus i am the victor. When you manage to get your thumb out of your ass and single handedly stop abortion, i will go out and re-legalize it. Here's a thought, while you piss your time away here, doctors are fully legaly ravaging a woman's womb and removing their fetal children and killing them visciously. Get to stopping it.

[prolifeinternational]

4non Re "abortion is legal and thus i am the victor." What a pyrrhic "victory" 4non..the freedom to kill innocent little babies without risk of prosecution?! The only difference here between this and killing a born human,is the legal postition,though actually abortion is worse than murder if you take into account the fact that the unborn have no chance to defend themseleves.. But you must be VERY proud of yourself big man! Though,seriously,what`s your motivation?.. Can`t handle responsibility?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

prolife, your so, so stupid. Fetuses cannot feal pain. They have no sentiency. If you shoot a guy in the head, they can't defend themselves either. If you stab a girl in the stomach, they can't defend themselves either. You didn't get what he said, did you? Get your ass off of youtube and so something. What is the first thing you do after he tells you this? You reply with a stupid fucking argument. Get yourself fucknig educated.

[prolifeinternational]

AmericaFu Re "Fetuses cannot feal pain" Incorrect! (if you`re still not convinced then please provide a reliable source of proof to the contrary).. Re "If you shoot a guy in the head, they can't defend themselves either." Not always.. But what if the guy being shot at has a gun too? Re "Get yourself fucknig educated".. Why? So I can rant mindlessly (without a coherent argument)like you do? No thanks!

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

Wow. you are SO convincing. "incorrect!" is not a very good counter argument. Take grade 9 science, and you'll know what i'm talking about. Oh, wait. Your american, so because of your lower educational standards, it'll probably be in grade 11 science. Fetuses do not develope a nervous system until the late 2nd-early 3rd trimester... That means they CANNOT POSIBLY feel pain. Um, obviously their gun was not a good defence if you managed to shoot him..

[prolifeinternational]

Ameri Re "obviously their gun was not a good defence if you managed to shoot him.. " Point being unborn children are ALWAYS UNARMED AND DEFENCELESS..murder victims possibly aren`t. Re "Fetuses do not develope a nervous system until the late 2nd-early 3rd trimester... " But you previously made a blanket claim that "Fetuses cannot feal pain.".. Now,at least, you seem to be being a little more specific. But why a possible lack of pain experience somehow makes it okay to murder them,remains unclear?

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

Um, fetuses grow arms in the 1st trimester, but good try non the less. My statement was correct. Fetuses are the term used for 'babies' during the 1st and 2nd trimesters. If you knew the correct terminology, you wouldn't have complained. It's not jsut the pain, it's the whole shabang. They aren't sentient, they only have basic thought processes, and they are severely under developped. They are also physicaly attached to the mother, and are parasidicly leeching an existence off of her.

[prolifeinternational]

Re "are also physicaly attached to the mother, and are parasidicly leeching an existence off of her" Where do you people learn this contemptuous drivel...is there a school of pro abortion propaganda?

[prolifeinternational]

RE "They aren't sentient, they only have basic thought processes,.." A lot like you then?!

[prolifeinternational]

Re "Oh, wait. Your american, so because of your lower educational standards..blah blah" Wrong yet again.. I`m English..but you`re still pathetic and ill informed!

[AmericaFuckingBlows]

Oh, sorry i didn't bother to check where a stupid tard like you comes from. You just keep on getting me, don't you. i just assumed that because your stupid and pro-life, you were american. I will never make the mistake again, nor will i ever respect the English nearly as much. Do you even know anything about pregnancy and reproduction? do you know what "parasidic" means? Because if you said 'yes' to any of these, you'd know that i was right in saying fetuses are parasidic beings.

[prolifeinternational]

Amer Re "i just assumed that because your stupid and pro-life, you were american." Isn`t anyone prolife where you come from?

[4nonimous]

What? Did i hear "security" in here? How does abortion even relate AT ALL to national security! He sais "the protection of life", but you have to have life to get it taken away. People all seem to think it's at conception, but the zygot is just a lump of un-specified stem cells, and has NO human characteristics other then the DNA. After the zygot stage, the fetus becaumes a parasidic being leaching sustenance from the host.

[BenAliGtor]

Here's a news flash for you, "Father": if you don't vote and pay taxes in my state, you don't have a goddamned thing to say as to how we handle ANY political issue here.

Spend more effort in the archdiocese whence you came (New Yawk)dealing with pedophile priests, than meddling in the political affairs of places where you neither dwell, pay taxes, nor are welcome.

[MyLegendarySelf]

All Fr. Frank Pavone does is own every pro-abortionist person with logical, easy-to-understand truths. What a beast.

5 stars.

[averitas]

Fr. Frank, God bless you and keep you... may the spirit rain down and help us to do this work for his glory.

Pray, Pray, Pray

[SantaCruzProLife]

Be Back with More: "Pro-UNREGULATED Abortion" politicians, YES! Bravo, Fr. Pavone!

[bjmdog]

aborted baby's grandmother Thank you Father Pavone for all the time and energy spent on trying to save our innocent babies lives as they lie in wait in what should be the safety of their own mothers womb. Abortion is murder,there is no justifying ripping apart a baby limb from limb just for the sake of choice. Let's pray for a pro-life president, I am sure those little babies who may be facing an abortion would ask you to do the same. God Bless You Father Pavone!!

[bjmdog]

aborted baby's grandmother Father Pavone, you will be bless for all the time and energy spent on trying to save all of the innocent little angels lives who lay in wait in what is suppose to be the safety of their own mothers womb.Abortion is murder, there is no justifying ripping apart an innocent life for the sake of choice.Lets pray for a pro-life president to be elected,I am sure those little babies who are facing an abortion would ask you to do the same. God bless you Father Pavone!

[Annie9361296]

Thank you Father,

God bless

[sincitypreacher]

Dear Sir: (I can't call you "father" because Jesus said; "call no man your father" Matthew 23:9). However, I am happy to agree with you on the question of abortion. Thank you for your message.

[AnHonestChristian]

Amen, Father!

And yet, pro-choice Obama is still treated by the American public as some type of demigod. Pure ignorance.

[nikolecz]

he's such...an amazing speaker. i'm so glad to have met him at the March For Life, i can't wait until next year's.

[BeingBob]

to some abortionists it's not wrong to dispose of them after birth. I was in a chat today with a woman who saved a baby after a failed saline abortion attempt. This baby was left in a trash can, living. She's now a happy adult.

Barack Obama wants to make sure it's legal to throw living children in the dumpster.

It was a woman who had been forced by her family to have an abortion and had her heart ripped out with her child that changed my mind on this when pro-choice was promoted in schools.

[BeingBob]

And thanks for all that you've done Fr. Pavone.

[ggfourlife]

Thank you Fr.Pavone! You are awesome!

[JaygeAlmaron]

The thing that I feel we all need to remember on the pro-life side is that this is not a Catholic fight over a Catholic ideal. This is a realization of a Universal Truth which applies to everyone regardless of religion, creed, or politics.

The Pro-choice side is fighting with the understanding that abortion is not a happy or easy choice to make, but it may be necessary at times. The Pro-Choice side wants to make sure that abortion is always an option but wants to work on plans where...

[JaygeAlmaron]

women will not feel they have to have one. The Pro-life side states that there are no situations where abortion should be allowed, but also they are working on programs and plans so that women do not feel they need to have an abortion.

There is no end to our responsibility to defend the innocent, this i know is true. However, we cannot allow more babies to die and more women to suffer because we are stuck arguing over the laws of men instead of fortifying the Truths of the issue.

[prolifeinternational]

jayge I applaud much of what you say. But the quote "but wants to work on plans where women will not feel they have to have one" when refering to pro choice,just doesn`t reflect my experiences at all. This group might or might not be prepared to abort themseleves,but they have no wish or desire for other people to be prevented from CHOOSING to doing so,and make no serious or sustained effort to make abortion rare. In fact "access to abortion" is now being touted as a "fundamental human right"!

[JaygeAlmaron]

That's where I draw the line. In order to be a human and to have rights, you have to be born first.

"the Right to Life is not a privalege conferred by governement..." Mother Theresa.

We have met two extremes of pro-choice people, but we all know that Life has to overcome, becuase,

"...a country who kills it's children, has no future..." Pope John Paul II

[juliaisafilmbuff]

Actually, "terrorists" have several reasons for doing what they do, namely the fact that the USA kills their children by giving weapons to Israel.

[prolifeinternational]

julias Re "Actually, "terrorists" have several reasons for doing what they do, namely the fact that the USA kills their children by giving weapons to Israel. " So all the worlds terrorists are innocent of any crime..incl Bin Laden?

[juliaisafilmbuff]

Abortion should not be a political issue. There is no way anti-abortion laws will stop abortion; they will just move it behind the closed door. Abortion is just as common in nations where it is illegal as it is in the USA and in the West (in fact, abortion is MORE COMMON in places like Latin America than the USA). The REAL way to end abortion is to reduce poverty and improve health care for pregnant women.

[prolifeinternational]

julias Re "The REAL way to end abortion is to reduce poverty ".. So out of the 1.3 million annual abortions in the USA how many are officially known to be due solely to poverty?

[InDiscernment]

People still kill others even though it is against the law. That doesn't mean we should legalize it. I know for a fact that a majority of middle class people only have abortions because they are temporary solutions to bigger problems. If it would be illegal they wouldn't even consider.

If marijuana was legal don't you think more people would smoke it?

[prolifeinternational]

Another BRILLIANT message!

[InDiscernment]

Fr. Frank, God Bless you for all you do.

I just have a few questions though that I am sure you can answer. First, how do we respond to republican candidates who think war will solve problems? Second, how do we respond as faithful Catholics to politicians in favor of the death penalty? Lastly, do you think the presidential election is the place to show your opinions on abortion because presidents have been pro-life in the past without solving the problem.

PAX

[FrFrankPavone]

Remember the quote from Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel: "I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented."

So, in what way does leaving violence to the choice of the oppressor not favor the oppressor's actions?

[juliaisafilmbuff]

Elie Wiesel is an attention whore, not to mention a criminal. The way he's exploited what happened to him during the Nazi holocaust is despicable. No idea why you would quote him.

Just saying...

[InDiscernment]

Either way the quote was valid and applicable.

Just saying...

[SuzNews727]

The bottomline is that God gave the job to women to determine what is best for this soul at this time, not men or clergy. Interesting you question God's wisdom.

The issue here is legality however. Abortion is directly linked to unwanted pregnancies, not whether its legal or not & it goes up in places it is illegal. If the church was actually against abortion, it would work to support people in reducing pregnancies, not participate in misogynistic name calling and contraception withholding.

[Jutubi00]

Pro choice is not pro abortion!

[steam0001]

Your right. It's pro-muder.

[Jutubi00]

I am against abortion, but I can't speak for woman who was raped. You know what I mean? It's the woman choice and not yours!

[adorima]

If we let people be their own god, to rule themselves, because they have the right to do whatever it is they want to do, then we would have no rights. It would be everyone's wishes contending against everyone's wishes. Pro-choicer's believe that people should "live and let live?" They should examine that adage better.That is essentially why we must have rules, and follow the Ruler of the Universe.

And God bless U Fr.Pavone! You're a lovely person! And I will keep praying for you!

[SuzNews727]

Learn the facts. As good as the intentions are, Pro-Life is ultimately pro-back-alley abortion. It was nuns and clergy that helped to make abortion legal when they witnesses how many women were entering ERs after mutilating themselves. If you want to reduce abortion, work to reduce unwanted pregnancies, not sit and call women irresponsible & much worse. Shame on you. God gave the job and the wisdom to know what is best, to the WOMAN. This IS God's rule. You think God is wrong? Very interesting.

[angrymeow]

How can we reduce unwanted pregnancies when people don't listen. When parents don't teach their children both sons and daughters. When the society promotes sex as pure pleasure and slefishness.

[prolifeinternational]

jutubi00 Re "but I can't speak for woman who was raped." Why do you have ANY assumption that a woman who becomes pregnant through rape might necessarily want to abort?..After all she is,and always will be,the NATURAL mother of her child,and don`t you think she might have already experienced quite enough trauma?

[Jutubi00]

I don't have ANY assumption, only the woman can decide in this situation! That's why pro choice is the only way to deal with this issues, because you can't forbid abortion under special circumstances (why should be a woman, who has been raped, allowed to abort, and a 16 year child can't abord?)

[prolifeinternational]

jutubi Re "I don't have ANY assumption" Then why specifically mention it?

[prolifeinternational]

jutubi00 Re "Pro choice is not pro abortion! " But surely it is,because being pro choice does absolutely NOTHING to prevent abortions! Besides,it`s VERY easy to be pro choice when you`re not the one getting murdered!