Would putting your name on the ballat solve the problem? And publish the results with the names, so when people see their names on a person they didn't vote for, that would be an issue. Honesty and transparency.
I see it is claimed that these companies are making these machines "MORE SECURE." Really? As long as the skills of hackers keeps up with technology... these things will NEVER be safe. Also.. look at the Android phones lately which many had Carrier IQ in them to track people. If all this was OK'd by the various phone carriers... then it is quite easy to believe that the government or others in power can manipulate these machines without anyone's knowledge.
I have supposed this for many years. And I saw a video of Bush & his brother Jeb on a plane before Bush's re-election & when asked Bush if he thought he was going to win, he looked at his brother Jeb & they both laughed at the same time & He turned back at the interviewer & said, "I KNOW I'm gonna win", but it did not look like a look of confidence but one of the cat who swallowed the canary. I said to myself then it was all rigged.
i have a feeling Ron Paul is beating Romney and hes loosing because of this.
just look at romney videos 60-95% thumbs down. and ron Paul 80-99 Thumbs up. that right there says people on Pauls side, yet romney is winning. this is shady! bring Paper ballots back and count them by hand!!!
THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL !! We need to go back to paper ballots and count them by hand. We need to take our country back soon because if we don't we won't have a "free" country to call home. Once freedom is lost it is almost impossible to regain.
Great video. I have to thank that lovely lady to start out this investigation. I will do my best to spread the word about this, and I think everyone should do the same.
AND THIS IS DEMOCRACY???????? THIS IS HYPOCRACY AT BEST! WE NEED TO END THIS POLITICAL SCAM!. WE DO NOT ELECT POLITICIANS, THE CORP SCUM IS THE PROBLEM!. THE ELITES RUN THE COUNTRY, AMERICANS NEED TO TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM THE FEW WHO RULE THRU CORRUPTION.
22 million dollars would pay alot of people counting ballots. Incidentally, I haven't heard from Hillory Clinton about this. She seems more interested in Russian voter irregularities.
The worst part about this is that electronic voting doesn't at all have to be more unsecure than paper voting. Since they who make those machines are professionals (one would assume) then that means those flaws must have been placed there deliberately.
For example, it was possible to change the votes just by just searching for the candidates name instead of hacking the password. If it were secure then the password would be the key to decrypting the information not just a test to allow access.
@dhruvilshah30 Just an FYI, ip addresses can be changed. There is more than one way to spoof, or change, your ip address. This isn't a new idea, or capability.
First of all, why is the software inside the machine secret. because you always hide what you dont want people to see. The technology had so many easy ways to hack because they wanted multiple ways of manipulating data- that's also why they made all entries untraceable. They designed a system to flaw in as many ways as possible so they could reach their goals and outcomes. This country is full of shit. Ive been lied to and so have you.
It's not the computers' fault, it's the people who made them. USE computers for counting, it's quicker and more accurate, just make sure the computers can't get hacked.
the people who discovered all this or helped solve this issue now needs to look for clues on past elections even close ones like 1 more vote than the opposition and things like that and also should be in charge of new voting systems
After watching this doco I'm so glad we still use the paper vote in Australia. American voting system is just so corrupt. People actually gave their life for democracy in America and it's a real shame to see it sink this low.
For the US government to go around the world invading coutries in the name of democracy is a total insult to all people. Corporations control America not the people or the politicians.
Isn't wonderful to know that some of those who run our elections are as bent and crooked as the crooked politicians that win the elections and as bent and crooked as the corporations that buy the elections. Our founding fathers warned us that this time may come, and also told us what we must do.
See I think comments like PitoDaddy's above are a serious issue. It frankly scares me. Technology is not the issue here it is the accountability and more importantly the RFP process in which this equipment is chosen. The vendors have not been held accountable for their ignorance. All Americans need to demand that their local governments demand proper security testing and perhaps listening to someone who says 'Yes it can and I can prove it'.
So how can we go to the polling booth and think that our votes really count? This is the scariest thing in the world!!!!!! Scarier than war or terrorism!
After I saw the HBO show and was incensed, I called our local Supervisor of Elections and asked him about our voting system. One thing that I was concerned about was that we were scheduled to a Touch Screen Diebold machines in 2008. I asked him if there was going to be a paper receipt for me to take away that showed how I voted and he said that the machine didn't generate one. After a long discussion about the possibility of vote rigging, I decided that the only way to vote was absentee ballot.
People who seriously think there are real differences between republicans and democrats need to look beyond party labels and stated ideology: they two major parties are like Coke and Pepsi...both sell carbonated fluid with sweetener and coloring, other than the can not significantly different. The two parties in power do everything in their power to keep independent candidates from being taken seriously. They don't think of us as "constituents" they think of us as "taxpayers."
The entire electoral system is compromised... from voter registration to the actual voting process.
It must be noted that Joseph Stalin once said, " It is only necessary that the people know that an election has occurred. He who counts the votes wins."
Every vote counts, just some more than others.
It is time for the People to rise up and demand the resignation of the government and the installation of voting systems that are fool proof... manual ballots until they do so.
Another point worth noting...Cuyahoga County, OH spent millions on the Diebold machines, and yet in '06, the county helped propel Ted Strickland to the governor's mansion, and 68% voted for Obama in '08. Yes, Cuyahoga is strongly Democratic, but where were the claims of fraud then?
Regardless of where you stand politically, this film clearly raises serious questions on how U.S elections are run.
However, the activists' motives appear suspect. Most of the complainers happen to be Democrats...and all they raised were suspicions of shenanigans in '04, and not actual proof.
I'd also like to know why they weren't screaming "fraud" after the Dems took Congress in '06 and Obama won in '08.
@MotorCity1370 I just gotta call bullshit on your 1 year old story here,
the documentary was released long time ago, secondly
you deliberately ignored, the first republican lady, who videotaped, the machines that regardless of who she chose to vote for, the machine only had 1 outcome. and that was a democrat,
and then you ignore when the activist lady, says that in another county, Republicans are crying fault over the machines, and dems. are downplaying it.
And the people still spent 22 million dollars on machines from Diebold! So long America! It's time to call it a day! The empire is finally crumbling! What was once termed the "land of the free" is nothing but a "wasteland of slavery," where the rich and powerful control the weak and vulnerable. American democracy is a mirage. I look forward to the day when the American people see their government for what it really is: a bunch of power hungry corporate tycoons in soulless bodies.
I think it's a good idea to transmit this documentary to as many people as possible. It needs to travel virally, and fast (though, given the current climate, that is a rather bad choice of words). But the fact remains, American elections, insofar as electronic voting machines are concerned, can be easily programmed and manipulated. The above case study shows this to be true. And, given that 80 percent of any American election is decided by electronic vote, this is a damning indictment!
Think, which party do these guys represent - the people pictured here are are Democratic Party members. Democratic party was pissed because Bush won back then, so they fund this documentary in order to raise anti-Republican stink.
Also, how would these people know all this stuff about the software, cards etc.? Do you think no-computer-knowledge woman would get that knowledge? It was given to her by Democrat politicians who participate in the fraudulent system.
At first she was bipartisian, but then she started saying that Kerry didn't follow through with the fraud with machines. But, what ya'all don't get is it doesn't matter who wins their all the same crocked bastards! I have no doubt that there is fraud in many many places, but I didn't see that one woman in Congress that went have Cheney on voter fraud say anything bout the black panthers that stood outside polling places when people went in and voted in this lasted election. Of course not!!!!!!!!
i agree that no matter who wins, their all controlled by the same people. Its not that these are bad people, its either you play by our rules or your career is gone.
If you followed the news you would know "that woman" had a stroke and died. Maybe that is what prevented her from speaking up....by the way her name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She died before the democratic nominee was decided.
@Bravhrt79 If you followed the news you would know "that woman" had a stroke and died. Maybe that is what prevented her from speaking up....by the way her name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She died before the democratic nominee was decided.
We are watching this in my high school government class. It's ridiculous how easy it is to change the results of the election--a kid in a computer programming class could probably accomplish it. I understand why she's crying. This defies the integrity of our democratic system. We need paper ballots. A uniform system of voting. Stand up for what you know is right.
I wonder why CNN or other media outlets do not show these kind of real people. So when the Repub's say that Obama doesn't have a mandate they have made SURE he doesn't. Way to keep the country together! Have the election officials even tried to find the problems? If not, there should be a more thorough evaluation of who we deam our election officials. Why do we have election officials if they have no recourse when they find an illegal activity? WE NEED AN ELECTION REFORM MANDATE!!
why dont other media outlets keep you informed? because freedom of the press is dead, there job is to form your opinions for you, so you behave in a way that suits their masters.
Just more Bush fraud. Be sure to learn about how he has had three women killed over his homosexual affairs: do a google search for Leola McConnell or Victor Ashe his homo lover from college.
considering what's happened in several counties repeatedly in the usa, i'm willing to demand they be disallowed a vote until they can PROVE they are free from corruption.
ground em. that's what any good parent would do with a child that pullls a stunt of horrific magnitude.
furthermore, i submit they be fined & held criminally accountable.
whats occurred in this country is an abomination upon our very principles.
i suppose precincts caught falsifying results also may refuse an subpeona too, huh
Everyone should watch this. My municipality just voted against getting and using a Premier/Diebold optical scanner etc system.
What actually convinced city council was not what I said about Premier/Diebold, but that it's cheaper to use people to count the ballots and pay the people well.
Would putting your name on the ballat solve the problem? And publish the results with the names, so when people see their names on a person they didn't vote for, that would be an issue. Honesty and transparency.
AJennyPenny 1 week ago
I see it is claimed that these companies are making these machines "MORE SECURE." Really? As long as the skills of hackers keeps up with technology... these things will NEVER be safe. Also.. look at the Android phones lately which many had Carrier IQ in them to track people. If all this was OK'd by the various phone carriers... then it is quite easy to believe that the government or others in power can manipulate these machines without anyone's knowledge.
MusicAnd1Love 2 weeks ago
I have supposed this for many years. And I saw a video of Bush & his brother Jeb on a plane before Bush's re-election & when asked Bush if he thought he was going to win, he looked at his brother Jeb & they both laughed at the same time & He turned back at the interviewer & said, "I KNOW I'm gonna win", but it did not look like a look of confidence but one of the cat who swallowed the canary. I said to myself then it was all rigged.
kokonutbaby1 2 weeks ago
i have a feeling Ron Paul is beating Romney and hes loosing because of this.
just look at romney videos 60-95% thumbs down. and ron Paul 80-99 Thumbs up. that right there says people on Pauls side, yet romney is winning. this is shady! bring Paper ballots back and count them by hand!!!
ALEXFVHS 1 month ago 5
THIS MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL !! We need to go back to paper ballots and count them by hand. We need to take our country back soon because if we don't we won't have a "free" country to call home. Once freedom is lost it is almost impossible to regain.
RON PAUL 2012 !!
katyu16 1 month ago 3
i take my hat off to these people they never went into for any gain other then to see fair elections i comment you all on this
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Great work by true patriots. It's truly sad to know how easily "Democracy" is bought and sold in our country!
TheBiotchify 1 month ago
Great video. I have to thank that lovely lady to start out this investigation. I will do my best to spread the word about this, and I think everyone should do the same.
Ginyuu5 1 month ago
AND THIS IS DEMOCRACY???????? THIS IS HYPOCRACY AT BEST! WE NEED TO END THIS POLITICAL SCAM!. WE DO NOT ELECT POLITICIANS, THE CORP SCUM IS THE PROBLEM!. THE ELITES RUN THE COUNTRY, AMERICANS NEED TO TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM THE FEW WHO RULE THRU CORRUPTION.
virtual4desires 2 months ago
22 million dollars would pay alot of people counting ballots. Incidentally, I haven't heard from Hillory Clinton about this. She seems more interested in Russian voter irregularities.
facelikedog 2 months ago
The worst part about this is that electronic voting doesn't at all have to be more unsecure than paper voting. Since they who make those machines are professionals (one would assume) then that means those flaws must have been placed there deliberately.
For example, it was possible to change the votes just by just searching for the candidates name instead of hacking the password. If it were secure then the password would be the key to decrypting the information not just a test to allow access.
madichelp0 2 months ago
What a truly disgusting den of vipers these politicians are. 95% of them from all party's are cheats and frauds. I'm angry beyond words.
postpanic1 3 months ago
HOLY SHIT...can i get a do-over, for my life, from say......2000 to 2008?
toddg562 4 months ago
So how many service men and women have died in Iraq and Afghanistan because of this fraud?
deboisblanc 6 months ago 3
@deboisblanc A lot... : (
And its just the tip of the iceberg...
WikiLeaksTUBE 4 months ago
i have a php website which count votes. a computer can vote only one time form each ip.
i am only 13!
i bet i can create better than this machines ! :)
dhruvilshah30 6 months ago
@dhruvilshah30 That means I could vote on your website site which counts votes by IP, 5000+ times to anyone I like :). lolololol.
tachi203 5 months ago
@dhruvilshah30 Just an FYI, ip addresses can be changed. There is more than one way to spoof, or change, your ip address. This isn't a new idea, or capability.
kaoskloned 5 months ago
@kaoskloned @kaoskloned @kaoskloned i am not talking just about ip.
how about email address,ip,cookies.
Yes i know its not perfect but still it will be better than those machine :D
here is my website which i am working on right now...
likedislike[dot]tk/h1
dhruvilshah30 5 months ago
First of all, why is the software inside the machine secret. because you always hide what you dont want people to see. The technology had so many easy ways to hack because they wanted multiple ways of manipulating data- that's also why they made all entries untraceable. They designed a system to flaw in as many ways as possible so they could reach their goals and outcomes. This country is full of shit. Ive been lied to and so have you.
vJpRIzM 7 months ago
@vJpRIzM Lets just leave it to the free market to solve the issue...
a sad sentiment.. a result of capitalism, a result of free market running amok,
is not decided by the vote, but by the green paper aka. the money
izaccy 6 months ago
George W. Bush was never elected to the office of POTUS.
IRIQUOIS227 7 months ago
This is disturbing and this is why I don't vote.
bluhack99 8 months ago
@bluhack99 Amen. I don't vote either
Stillwater900 8 months ago
It's not the computers' fault, it's the people who made them. USE computers for counting, it's quicker and more accurate, just make sure the computers can't get hacked.
dragonofthedarknight 8 months ago
google ron paul...
mkodaddy 9 months ago
the people who discovered all this or helped solve this issue now needs to look for clues on past elections even close ones like 1 more vote than the opposition and things like that and also should be in charge of new voting systems
Jamieduk999 10 months ago
@Jamieduk999 You cannot do that, the lady in the end cried cause she realized
no matter which way you try to count them, it eventually stacked against you.
the only way to find out was the papers, and they quickly deposed them as you saw.
izaccy 6 months ago
After watching this doco I'm so glad we still use the paper vote in Australia. American voting system is just so corrupt. People actually gave their life for democracy in America and it's a real shame to see it sink this low.
For the US government to go around the world invading coutries in the name of democracy is a total insult to all people. Corporations control America not the people or the politicians.
SpaceWalkTraveller 10 months ago 2
I always new Obama was not the peoples choice.
I didn't know anyone that voted for him.
u812b4me 10 months ago
Isn't wonderful to know that some of those who run our elections are as bent and crooked as the crooked politicians that win the elections and as bent and crooked as the corporations that buy the elections. Our founding fathers warned us that this time may come, and also told us what we must do.
jimbo123ful 10 months ago
See I think comments like PitoDaddy's above are a serious issue. It frankly scares me. Technology is not the issue here it is the accountability and more importantly the RFP process in which this equipment is chosen. The vendors have not been held accountable for their ignorance. All Americans need to demand that their local governments demand proper security testing and perhaps listening to someone who says 'Yes it can and I can prove it'.
RichiRicheh 11 months ago 2
Well, it sure explains the negative votes. And it sure explains 2000 and 2004.
Cosmotube1960 11 months ago
I want to find Bev Harris and join her revolution.
jb84107 1 year ago 2
I hope they don't use this kind of system in Australia
mixsetup 1 year ago
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goldenmind8 1 year ago
Join The Zeitgeist Movement..the monetary system is obsolet.
FranciscoKGuerreiro 1 year ago
So how can we go to the polling booth and think that our votes really count? This is the scariest thing in the world!!!!!! Scarier than war or terrorism!
PawelAC 1 year ago
Hey New Yorkers, this is your system! Mechanical voting system are not illegal under HAVA regulations. We have lost our democracy!
PEPPYY22 1 year ago
After I saw the HBO show and was incensed, I called our local Supervisor of Elections and asked him about our voting system. One thing that I was concerned about was that we were scheduled to a Touch Screen Diebold machines in 2008. I asked him if there was going to be a paper receipt for me to take away that showed how I voted and he said that the machine didn't generate one. After a long discussion about the possibility of vote rigging, I decided that the only way to vote was absentee ballot.
Oldeagle57 1 year ago
dOn DAKE!~~!!??
shinsetsuuX 1 year ago
god bless america ! watch my vids
iamdiaperman 1 year ago
The moral of this story is NEVER trust your governments and don't waste your time voting - spend your time with family and friends instead.
ZeroFiftyNine 1 year ago
The american govornment can suck it for rigging the elections and, more recently, passing the healthcare bill. It's socialist
awsomguitarman 1 year ago
4:05 The epiphany that evil roams the earth. I know that look I had it my self long time ago. Welcome to the club of the awaken.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
People who seriously think there are real differences between republicans and democrats need to look beyond party labels and stated ideology: they two major parties are like Coke and Pepsi...both sell carbonated fluid with sweetener and coloring, other than the can not significantly different. The two parties in power do everything in their power to keep independent candidates from being taken seriously. They don't think of us as "constituents" they think of us as "taxpayers."
uncledevo 2 years ago 10
The entire electoral system is compromised... from voter registration to the actual voting process.
It must be noted that Joseph Stalin once said, " It is only necessary that the people know that an election has occurred. He who counts the votes wins."
Every vote counts, just some more than others.
It is time for the People to rise up and demand the resignation of the government and the installation of voting systems that are fool proof... manual ballots until they do so.
usar4me 2 years ago
We in Montana still vote on paper ballets.
I've told election official's in my home town, the ONLY way i would vote on these machines,is with a HAMMER.
eric4433 2 years ago 2
you can see MEMROY CARD at 1:13
aerospaceace10 2 years ago
on the reciept that printed out I dont know if anyone noticed but it said MEMROY CARD, the stupid programmers couldnt even spell memory correct!!
aerospaceace10 2 years ago
Another point worth noting...Cuyahoga County, OH spent millions on the Diebold machines, and yet in '06, the county helped propel Ted Strickland to the governor's mansion, and 68% voted for Obama in '08. Yes, Cuyahoga is strongly Democratic, but where were the claims of fraud then?
MotorCity1370 2 years ago
Regardless of where you stand politically, this film clearly raises serious questions on how U.S elections are run.
However, the activists' motives appear suspect. Most of the complainers happen to be Democrats...and all they raised were suspicions of shenanigans in '04, and not actual proof.
I'd also like to know why they weren't screaming "fraud" after the Dems took Congress in '06 and Obama won in '08.
MotorCity1370 2 years ago
@MotorCity1370 I just gotta call bullshit on your 1 year old story here,
the documentary was released long time ago, secondly
you deliberately ignored, the first republican lady, who videotaped, the machines that regardless of who she chose to vote for, the machine only had 1 outcome. and that was a democrat,
and then you ignore when the activist lady, says that in another county, Republicans are crying fault over the machines, and dems. are downplaying it.
and here it is the opposite,
izaccy 6 months ago
This program should be required viewing for everyone who registers to vote.
yahoogy 2 years ago 4
And the people still spent 22 million dollars on machines from Diebold! So long America! It's time to call it a day! The empire is finally crumbling! What was once termed the "land of the free" is nothing but a "wasteland of slavery," where the rich and powerful control the weak and vulnerable. American democracy is a mirage. I look forward to the day when the American people see their government for what it really is: a bunch of power hungry corporate tycoons in soulless bodies.
BeholdZeus 2 years ago 5
The truth is clear: American power is utterly fascistic!
BeholdZeus 2 years ago 2
I think it's a good idea to transmit this documentary to as many people as possible. It needs to travel virally, and fast (though, given the current climate, that is a rather bad choice of words). But the fact remains, American elections, insofar as electronic voting machines are concerned, can be easily programmed and manipulated. The above case study shows this to be true. And, given that 80 percent of any American election is decided by electronic vote, this is a damning indictment!
BeholdZeus 2 years ago
All parties are in on it.
Think, which party do these guys represent - the people pictured here are are Democratic Party members. Democratic party was pissed because Bush won back then, so they fund this documentary in order to raise anti-Republican stink.
Also, how would these people know all this stuff about the software, cards etc.? Do you think no-computer-knowledge woman would get that knowledge? It was given to her by Democrat politicians who participate in the fraudulent system.
konman001 2 years ago 2
YEP!!!!!!!!!!
Bravhrt79 2 years ago
At first she was bipartisian, but then she started saying that Kerry didn't follow through with the fraud with machines. But, what ya'all don't get is it doesn't matter who wins their all the same crocked bastards! I have no doubt that there is fraud in many many places, but I didn't see that one woman in Congress that went have Cheney on voter fraud say anything bout the black panthers that stood outside polling places when people went in and voted in this lasted election. Of course not!!!!!!!!
Bravhrt79 3 years ago 3
i agree that no matter who wins, their all controlled by the same people. Its not that these are bad people, its either you play by our rules or your career is gone.
IMonCRACK247 2 years ago 2
If you followed the news you would know "that woman" had a stroke and died. Maybe that is what prevented her from speaking up....by the way her name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She died before the democratic nominee was decided.
Jinjerella 2 years ago
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@Bravhrt79 If you followed the news you would know "that woman" had a stroke and died. Maybe that is what prevented her from speaking up....by the way her name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She died before the democratic nominee was decided.
izaccy 6 months ago
actions speak louder than words, especially violent actions. lynch the fuckers,G.Washington would agree with me, im sure.
robertwc82 3 years ago 3
im sure he would! he'd take a bite out of bush with his wooden teeth and cut him down like a cherry tree.
smokeymcdubee 2 years ago
your crying cause you just became aware that your land of the free is as democratic as the U.S.S.R
robertwc82 3 years ago 4
We are watching this in my high school government class. It's ridiculous how easy it is to change the results of the election--a kid in a computer programming class could probably accomplish it. I understand why she's crying. This defies the integrity of our democratic system. We need paper ballots. A uniform system of voting. Stand up for what you know is right.
kwill1001 3 years ago 2
I wonder why CNN or other media outlets do not show these kind of real people. So when the Repub's say that Obama doesn't have a mandate they have made SURE he doesn't. Way to keep the country together! Have the election officials even tried to find the problems? If not, there should be a more thorough evaluation of who we deam our election officials. Why do we have election officials if they have no recourse when they find an illegal activity? WE NEED AN ELECTION REFORM MANDATE!!
sheneseB 3 years ago
why dont other media outlets keep you informed? because freedom of the press is dead, there job is to form your opinions for you, so you behave in a way that suits their masters.
robertwc82 3 years ago 2
Watch Zeitgeist Addendum if you haven't!
heavyflower 3 years ago
this was incredible.
ErinShadows 3 years ago
its very dramatic but seriously...shes crying?? cmon for fucks sake shes faking it
payne67 3 years ago
Nationwide, we need to go back to paper ballots. Sometimes too much technology can be a bad thing....
PitoDaddy 3 years ago 28
@PitoDaddy na they just need to make the coding not a secret then people would know when it was safe its not hard to make it safe
Antioxidantt 1 week ago
up until now I thought Obama was going to win. Now I wonder.
GGary4now 3 years ago 3
Just more proof that anything is hackable.
bluhack99 3 years ago
Just more Bush fraud. Be sure to learn about how he has had three women killed over his homosexual affairs: do a google search for Leola McConnell or Victor Ashe his homo lover from college.
cotullaguy 3 years ago
Nice to know that the wrong guy won twice
glukkglukk2 3 years ago 21
fucking GOP at work, 24/7.
if Obama loses there is NO WAY we won't believe corruption is alive and well.
perhaps the extreme hard line tactics of the right bear the extreme actions of the centrist citizens to achieve justice.
which means shit could get ugly...i'm just sayin....
Conspiracy2Riot 3 years ago 2
Lesson to be learned in Ohio: DO NOT VOTE IN CUYAHOGA COUNTY!!!!
Dreaded88 3 years ago 3
considering what's happened in several counties repeatedly in the usa, i'm willing to demand they be disallowed a vote until they can PROVE they are free from corruption.
ground em. that's what any good parent would do with a child that pullls a stunt of horrific magnitude.
furthermore, i submit they be fined & held criminally accountable.
whats occurred in this country is an abomination upon our very principles.
i suppose precincts caught falsifying results also may refuse an subpeona too, huh
Conspiracy2Riot 3 years ago 3
lesson to be learned: don't vote anywhere.
heavyflower 3 years ago
4:44 says it all for me.
asdimd 3 years ago 3
hey tool face aka acewolk
THEY JUST DID
rockotica 3 years ago 2
Hearsay!! Prove that's what happened assholes
acewolk 3 years ago
They just did!
yourhighness616 3 years ago
Everyone should watch this. My municipality just voted against getting and using a Premier/Diebold optical scanner etc system.
What actually convinced city council was not what I said about Premier/Diebold, but that it's cheaper to use people to count the ballots and pay the people well.
I just got tundra stare when I said Diebold.
margot980 3 years ago