COP ARRESTS STREET PREACHERS AT GAY BAR, THEN IS ARRESTED FOR RAPE

[andrewc2768]

I'm not Christian, but these guys' constitutional rights were violated, and they handled it like men. The cop showed his true colors, nice job.

[rookerzzz]

when you see me, you will share with me your biblical beliefs then I will share with you my beliefs, and then you will get offended...usually how it works

[ACallToHoliness]

@rookerzzz

I have no idea what that means. I don't get offended by someone disagreeing with me.

[rookerzzz]

@ACallToHoliness cool, Im glad, just my general experience, Ive studied in depth many world religions and whenever I say anything about them to Christians ie johavahs witness' that come to my door I can tell they are offended and get kindve agressive...if you've found the truth for yourself and you're a good person, Im happy, we need good people in the world wherever they get their morals and beliefs from, not bad and ignorant people

[nicamy8988]

why would you purposely piss people off? honestly what is the point of trying to preach to people who either already have faith or dont want faith? you shouting at them that they are wrong & doing wrong is not the way to get people to listen. i guess religion makes you stupid too. people have a right to do what they want so long as it doesnt hurt others or impede them these people including gays are doing none of those things YOU however ARE impeding their lively hood so let them live their life

[KamGasm]

Maybe you should stop pushing your religious beliefs on other people. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. So far, over 450 species have been found to consist of a homosexual population yet our species is the only one that is homophobic. They are here, they are queer, get over it! Maybe you should preach about how the bible okays slavery, rape, torture, and genocide. I'm sure there are plenty of things you do that are banned by the bible. Just a thought.

[brandonpw1986]

@KamGasm You just pushed your beliefs on us.

[runebagel]

Im athiest, but I think they were defiantly in their rights to do what they were doing

[honestcheetah]

the point is that parts of the legal system are enforced by insane psychopathic violent powerhungry rapists. Yeah, I'm sure freedom of speech includes the sounds of your own screaming voice. RAPE! RAPE!

[thinklarge21]

you guys should focus on more important issues than homosexuality. That is the least of our worries plaguing this planet.

[ACallToHoliness]

@thinklarge21

We do

[classifiedwaste71]

There is zero legal basis for arresting the preachers. The cop is gay and a Nazi. Shame on SAPD for hiring a rapist.

[classifiedwaste71]

Hitler would be proud.

[Jacki79]

Wow powerful video and witness, praise the LORD. Rejoice when persecuted, hallelujah. Keep up the work for His kingdom, I know you will... JESUS is giving you strength, wisdom and knowledge, He obviously lives in you. God bless you!!

[David8024667]

why do Christians (or, should I say, so-called Christians) feel like they have to IMPOSE all their beliefs and ideas on to OTHER people??? I'll never understand it. Wouldn't it be funny if gays started going to these churches (in mass numbers) and start telling them (these crazy fanatical people) that THEY have to change over to being gay (which is just as impossible to do as it is for a gay person to turn straight)? But, wouldn't that be funny? I think so!!! LOL A taste of their OWN medicine!!!

[zebb1111]

@David8024667 the only person imposing anything was the rapist anti-christ cop.

talking is not imposing unless your so suseptible to suggestion that your afraid that words might force you to do something.

we need maturity in this democracy or else we are going to lose it.

[vordven]

I'm gay and have been in jail. Fuck the rapist, murderes, and blah blah blah! I'm from San Antonio and don't like these stupid fucks but they have the right to do what they're doing. I wish I was at the Bonham when this was going on because I don't put up with this shit one bit.

[ACallToHoliness]

@vordven

It wouldn't have stopped us.

[zebb1111]

@vordven what shit??? free speech??? if they bother you with words so much maybe your the one with acceptance issues. if you were comfortable with your gayness you wouldn't care about what 2 dude say across the street from a bar.

they weren't picketing a funeral or anything like that.

what you hate, is the effect of their words on your tormented soul.

if not...ignor them.

[ACallToHoliness]

@vordven

You would have just been the umpteenth countless person who failed to stop us

[anonazero]

@vordven and yet you'd call someone a bigot for not "putting up with" what you do in your free time... thats called hypocrisy.

[klepto0oe]

@vordven what don't you put up with? Hearing the Truth or seeing a innocent person being arrested for not commiting a crime. These men of God weren't trying to force you into believing God's word, but they were giving it to you. Why do you hate the truth so much? Homosexuality was considered a mental disorder not to long ago, but now we all must bow to PC. Well what could be more correct than THE TRUTH. May God change you.

[monody]

@klepto0oe

I assume reality and real truth tends to be more true than those born of your imagination.

It's not being PC to not call it a mental disorder, it's simply keeping up with the understanding and science that proves it isn't a disorder.

To each their own, but I'd rather their own be honest.

[grebssie]

You just read a bible to yourself at home!

[ACallToHoliness]

@grebssie

I did and that Bible told me to go out and preach to every creature!

[tapout320]

@ACallToHolinessTheres 2 religions I cant stand..Islam And Chirstianity.Both are full of hypocracy but mostly in christianity.A lifelong pedophile can rape and kill kids for their whole life but on his death bed can ask for forgiveness and go to heaven.WHAT THE FUCK!!!I'd rather be in hell than in heaven with pedophiles and murderers.You christians are fucked. If you dont believe in jesus you dont go to heaven but if you DO believe in him,even if youre a child killer you can go to heaven.Logical

[jimmyhd1969]

@tapout320 It shows the mercy of Christ and the level of his forgivness.

[tapout320]

@jimmyhd1969 Yea...I'd rather be in hell with the devil who supposedley tortures rapists and child killers than in heaven where jesus is patting a rapist on tha back saying "Good job on saying sorry"....fuck that shit. thats all you bro. The bible's a fairy tale anyways.

[ACallToHoliness]

@tapout320

You are going to feel awfully dumb the first second you're engulfed in hell fire.

[ebonics4everyone]

I used to don black face make up and gaudy 70s clothes. Then I'd find a gay looking cop and pistol whip his ass. The cops would thank me afterward.

[lmrdjm275]

I've never seen 2 bigger perverts than those 2 preachers and I can tell they are pervert closet homosexuals.

[jgdgr81]

all religious nuts and homosexuals shoudl all be locked up!

[joenay1]

In high school, a group of friends, would stand outside Christian churches, saying whats on our mind and were always meet with violence, as we assumed we would have, we never called police, because the point was proved. there is a time and a place for everything, use better judgment, and as far as the christian fanatics across the street from thebonham exchange, which is a fire station, have respect for all who who may not share your view, but they should cherish their homosexuality denial

[texanrob]

You have the right to believe anything that you want. You don't have the right any longer to impose your beliefs off on to everyone else. I don't think that you should have been arrested, but gays have had to put up with Christians controlling everything for a long time and putting up with laws and rules that Christians have push through government to control anyone they didn't like. Those days are finally ending and people are now getting to live there lives honestly for the first time.

[4uresearch]

its difficutl because everyone interprets the bible differently, but it does say that God made EACH of us in his own image and loves all of us. I firmly believe that the god out there looks at the heart of each individual not whether they are gay or not. To preach the word of god but to condemn us for being gay is hippocratic at best.

[ACallToHoliness]

@4uresearch

God does look at the heart. He says the heart of a homosexual is wicked, perverse and in sin (Rom 1). That doesn't mean its too late for homosexuals though. They can repent (stop sinning) and get right with God. The Apostle Paul mentions that some people in the church at Corinth were at one time homosexual men, but now they had been cleansed by Jesus and were no longer sodomites. (1 Corinthians 6:9)

[4uresearch]

@ACallToHoliness

the translations which you are also viewing not the ORIGINAL text god hatw sinners, theres not much he doesnt god created adam and eve they had two sons Kane and Able, Kane killed his brother able yet ascended to heaven where the hell did everyon else come from INCEST.

[4uresearch]

@ACallToHoliness

God sent a flood to destroy everyone on earth except those on the arc, where did everyone else come from after that, again INCEST and lord knows that was kept in the family, the bible does not specifically mention homosexuality in the original version,

[ACallToHoliness]

@4uresearch

Thats simply false. The Greek words in Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 are absolutely 100% speaking of homosexuals. Read my article "Swine Shellfish and Sodomites" at gospeltruthdefenders . com

[mdmurray]

Jesus never said a thing about homosexuality. Ever.

[texanrob]

When was the last time that gays preached to christians outside a church. The message is live your hypocrisy, and leave us alone.

[ACallToHoliness]

@texanrob

If I did NOT preach at the Bonham, I WOULD be a hypocrite. I believe the Bible. The Bible says to go and preach (the word preach is the Greek word caruso which means a public crier or herald). If I claimed to believe the Bible, and did NOT preach, I would be a hypocrite.

Since I'm obeying the Bible and living what I claim to believe, I'm not a hypocrite

I love you enough to warn you that the sodomite choice is unnatural, perverted and evil. God will forgive you if you repent (stop)

[4uresearch]

@ACallToHoliness ts difficutl because everyone interprets the bible differently, but it does say that God made EACH of us in his own image and loves all of us. I firmly believe that the god out there looks at the heart of each individual not whether they are gay or not. To preach the word of god but to condemn us for being gay is hippocratic at best.

[ACallToHoliness]

@4uresearch

The definition of a "hypocrite" is someone who is guilty of doing something himself, yet tells other people not to do it. I am not a sodomite, therefore it is not even remotely hypocritical for me to be there.

God himself decided that homosexuality was perversion and wrong, not me. The god you describe cannot be the God of the Bible.

Lastly, God commands in the Bible to go and preach on the street. If I didnt obey it, and still said I believe the Bible, I WOULD be a hypocrite.

[texanrob]

Christians use violence in words and deeds all the time. If people turn against christians it is because christians did it to themselves.

[ACallToHoliness]

@texanrob

So people resorting to violence against Christians are not responsible for their actions?

[texanrob]

Christians, Muslims, and other religious people are the most violent, and biggest hypocrites on the planet!!

[ACallToHoliness]

@texanrob

Real Christians do not fight or defend themselves against physical violence.

[JayEvangelist09]

@ACallToHoliness Amen brother, I have been called insane for saying the exact same thing, but it is 100% biblical

[fcguy7]

Yet another example of Christians trying to force their religion on others. Do you see Jews or Muslims doing this kind of thing? I sure haven't seen a Jew or Muslim come on campus and call me a sinner and my girlfriend a whore ... but I've seen Christians do it!

[ACallToHoliness]

@fcguy7

Tell that to the families of hundreds of Christians decapitated by Muslims around the world for not submitting to Islam.

[fcguy7]

@ACallToHoliness Ignorance ... pure ignorance. You generalize Muslims the way that EXTREMIST Muslims generalize Christians and Jews ... you are no better.

We only need remember Waco Texas and cross burning KKK members to realize that people of any religion can be 'extremist' and commit atrocities murder.

[ACallToHoliness]

@fcguy7

Sorry, I own the Koran and have it here near me. Only a hypocrite Muslim would not kill as the Koran commands.

In contrast, only a hypocrite Christian would kill, since the Bible is clear that in this NT age no man has the right to kill anyone.

[fcguy7]

@ACallToHoliness

26then Moses stood in the gate of the camp and said, "Who is on the LORD’s side? Come to me." And all the sons of Levi gathered around him. 27And he said to them, "Thus says the LORD God of Israel, 'Put your sword on your side each of you, and go to and fro from gate to gate throughout the camp, and each of you(AI) kill his brother and his companion and his neighbor.'"

[fcguy7]

@ACallToHoliness

So Joshua struck the whole land, the hill country and the Negeb and the lowland and the slopes, and all their kings. He left none remaining, but devoted to destruction all that breathed, just as the LORD God of Israel commanded.

[ACallToHoliness]

@fcguy7

I said New Testament Christianity. You fail to understand how to rightly divide the Word of God.

[fcguy7]

@ACallToHoliness

But the Koran also states in Chapter 2, Verse 190: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors."

The essence of the verse is to fight back "if you are attacked by your persecutors, but don't fight back indiscriminately. Follow the rules of engagement." According to mainstream Muslim clerics, those "rules of engagement"' are explicit: women, children, and innocent civilians are off limits.

[ACallToHoliness]

@fcguy7

"Mainstream Muslim circles" are hypocrites that don't obey their Koran, just like "mainstream Christian circles" which comprise the bast majority of "churches" in the USA are hypocrites.

[JayEvangelist09]

@ACallToHoliness Amen!

[fcguy7]

@ACallToHoliness

This demonstrates how the vast majority of murderous Muslims are extremists like the extremist Christians of Waco and the KKK.

Face it man ... no matter how much you would like to sugar coat it Christianity is not as benevolent as you might hope ... and Islam is not as violent as you might like.

Keep trying ... your only making yourself look more and more like the hard headed religion pushers in this video.

[joeyjailer]

being a true christian the path is never easy....if you or anyone else wants to sit back and do nothing, you yourself will stand accountable for your actions when that day comes.

[womanintheshadow]

No wonder he harassed the preachers, he himself was a fag.

[NewMeNow2000]

I am so sorry for the man who was assaulted. Did this happen this year? Did the news acknowledge any link between the two cases? What's the update? Thanks.

[mammal46]

First of all I must appologize to you. I thought you were the Baptist preacher who refused to show a policeman his ID during a checkpoint. I am so sorry for everything I said to you now that I have watched your video. I don't know how I got so messed up. I'm sorry and GOD Bless you.

[cokerham108]

as a christian, I hate to see the yelling condemning preachers. Christ came with a msg of love, not hate, of self sacrifice, not self righteousness. I love the bible but I cant even stand it being yelled at me. I wish they would quit. The ones in ALAMO Plaza are the worst ive ever seen

[ACallToHoliness]

@cokerham108

I've preached at Alamo plaza many times.

My message is not "hate" or "self righteousness" but one of personal holiness through Christ.

Jesus raised his voice to preach many times. The word "preach" in the original languages means "a public crier, a herald." Preaching by definition and example is raising your voice in the public arena. The early church knew nothing of Sunday morning meeting houses packed out to listen to one pastor "preach" from the pulpit.

[mammal46]

Give not what is holy to the dogs cast not your pearls before swine. Christians should not contaminate themselves by going anywhere near homosexuals. God did not call us to cause political unrest, nor to argue with sinners.right" says. Christians R supposed to follow what the Bible says. GOD calls those to His church whom He chooses. It's not R job to fish 4 Believers in Homo bars, nor any bars 4 that matter. It is sad though that our clergy get arrested for speaking about GOD, we R in the end

[ACallToHoliness]

@mammal46

Are you a Calvinist? You make it seem as though God will save the individuals without a human agent to preach.

[mammal46]

@ACallToHoliness No I'm not a Calvinist. But don't tell me you don't think no one has ever planted seeds in these people. The Holy Spirit will only knock so many times and if they keep spurning Him, then it's over. Christians are supposed to be feeding the & taking care of poor, the orphans, the widows. Not arguing with Homos weather or not it's right to have male to male or fem to fem sex. James said pure religion is taking care of the above. Jesus forbids us to argue.

[mammal46]

@ACallToHoliness Further more going to a bar to evangelize, com on...How many intelegent conversations are you going to have with a bunch of inebreated people? It's simply asking for trouble and persecution! No one is going to win any crowns for persecution by asking for it. Their reward is all the Christians who feel theybe been so violated. Remember don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing.

In Love, GOD bless you,

Bernadette

[ACallToHoliness]

@mammal46

Actually some of them have repented and been saved because of this ministry. We don't argue, we preach the Gospel, and God is giving fruit. Perhaps you shouldn't write people off so fast like the Pharisees did and attempt to reach them instead of being disgusted with them.

[jlgrooveboy]

BTW THE BONHAM EXCHANGE IS GAY OWNED BUT IS MOSTLY HETEROSEXUAL. WE GAYS DONT GO THERE ANYMORE. LOL BUT UNLIKE YOU STR8 BIBLE THUMPERS WE GAYS DONT DISCRIMINATE AND LET THE STRAIGHTS COME IN WE ARE ALL ONE WORLD ONE PARTY!!!

[ACallToHoliness]

@jlgrooveboy

I've ministered to hundreds of gays there and several have repented and turned to Christ. There is hope for the homosexual if they will turn.

[jlgrooveboy]

@ACallToHoliness U CANT REPENT WHO U ARE WHY WONT U UNDERSTAND THAT!!! CHRIST BROUGHT US ON THIS EARTH FOR A REASON. THOSE WHOYOU SAY REPENT NEVER REALLY DO!! THEY LIVE LIES CHEAT BEHIND THEIR WIVES BACK W MEN, MOLEST CHILDREN THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SINNERS AND LIE TO THEMSELVES AND TO OTHERS(AGAIN ITS BEEN PROVEN AND I CAN STILL SHOWYOU PROOF BY GOING ON WEBSITES AND CRAIGSLIST WERE THESE NAASTY MEN HIDE PREYING ON OTHER MEN HOPING TO DISCRETE!

[jlgrooveboy]

@ACallToHoliness again your blind and ignorant and now i can say STUPID!!! because you still chose to ignore everything i just wrote on being homosexual.WE ARE BORN THIS WAY!!! YOU CANNNOT CHANGE US!!! If homosexuals can turn straight then straights can turn homosexual?!!! hmm come on join our cult become gay! IT is A better way of life!! lmao now i sound as dumb as you,.

[ACallToHoliness]

@jlgrooveboy

Of course straights can turn homosexual. I've many many who have done that. You have the choice of what to do with your body.

[mammal46]

@ACallToHoliness Well maybe that is your calling, but don't depend on the freedom of speach anymore. Our Muslim president is turning this country into a socialist country. We won't have any rights for much longer. But these are the birth pangs JESUS spoke about. It has to be this way 4 now, soon we'll have our glorious Christ back on this earth rulling with a rod of iron and there will be No More SIN. Praise JESUS! Please come quickly.

[jlgrooveboy]

it is ok small minded ignorants ones to have your own beliefs but to try to force your beliefs on others is stupid. let me stand in front of your house or church and protest on the bible is MAN WRITTEN and your ignorant for believing in old wise tales and mother goose and grimm. sorry but until i see god or at least a polaroid of him come one he isnt real. NOW WHAT IS REAL is that us homosexuals are here on earth since the beginning of time and there is real record. cont....

[jlgrooveboy]

@jlgrooveboy are here and are going to stay here until the end of time. Not only are we here but we are BORN this way!!! YES BORN!!!  and i dont believe this from reading a gay bible or being brainwashed as a child but from actual experience!!!!!!!! mymom like most parents who arent ignorant or blind will tell they knew from the minute we could walk or talk or giggle. Do u really think we wake up and decide to go through all this pain and suffering to be told its against the law to love ..

[jlgrooveboy]

@jlgrooveboy the same sex. NOOO.You idiotic foools!!!! people go through therapy gay kids go commit suicide as young as 8 years old because of this. Does your god think thats ok? So if your god is real then he aint as perfect because he made a mistake with bringing us into this world. Who would he make us go through all this pain!!That is why they are gain people(not all) because u know you ignorant one only see the ones that are flamoboyant but yet we are everywhere. cops,lawyers,doctors....

[jlgrooveboy]

@jlgrooveboy construction workers, and yes preachers because their are gay churches. We are everywhere and are human and come in all shapes,sizes and forms. some are feminine and some are masculine. i would go on for hours about how being a homosexual ISNT wrong. I have proof where is yours? and dont show me that book madeof paper unlessits the actual stone tablets written by god himself. why is their so many religions such as jehovah witness. why do some religions think its ok to bomb others ..

[jlgrooveboy]

@jlgrooveboy and kill them selves for god? who says their religion is really of god? huh? no one because different societies has created their own rules and bibles since the beginning of time. and ignorant people like you follow like sheep because you dont know better!!! i do pray to higher being and i have a rosary by my bed and a light candles and pray but to not one god or religion(born catholic). i may not agree but i dont discriminate but I WILL PREACH WHEN IT COMES TO IGNORANT BIBLE ...

[jlgrooveboy]

@jlgrooveboy THUMPERS WHO TRY TO SAY THE WAY I FEEL, THE WAY I BREATHE, THE WAY I LOVE SINCE I WAS FIRST BROUGHT ONTO THIS EARTH IS WRONG!!!! drugs and wild sex is not what homosexuality is about its a small portion just like the rest of the world gay or straight. Most of us are smart with college degrees and only make this world prettier. like i saw on one bumper sticker that i loved....IF GOD HATES GAYS THEN WHY ARE WE SO DAMN GOOD LOOKING? AMEN TO THAT!!!

[ScaryGuy255]

Hurray for standing up for your rights and saying what you believe. Boo for believing in outdated myths and telling homosexuals they will burn for eternity.

[monody]

For example, since you're fond of quoting court rulings, maybe look up the ones associated with trials on teaching religious beliefs in schools, and exactly why they didn't pass.

Maybe even specifically see the conclusion of the intelligent design ruling in 2005 as to why preemptive 'education' without building a rational base is what I refer to as 'wrong'.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

My authority is not the courts anyway. If preaching were illegal tomorrow I would still do it.

[monody]

And so the matter of validity in argument falls squarely into the position that you are merely out to educate and enforce your viewpoint, not a properly verified or truly objective one.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

You're asking others to do what you will not do. You want me to prove my view against all others while you just cite your own independent feelings as the final authority of your life.

You want others to stop promoting their viewpoint while you spend great time on a public forum posting yours in claiming that the preachers are wrong.

TOTAL HYPOCRISY

[monody]

Hypocrisy?

What viewpoint as an agnostic have I advocated beyond specifically stating that one must validate their belief?

I have not said god isn't real once. That is an imposition and lie you have asserted upon me. I have merely asked to provide proof that 'your' god is real where all others aren't.

Disingenuous accusations are not wise.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

I never accused you of that.

What you've failed to understand is that you are expressing your view without defending it first against all other views as a proof to me while at the same time demanding that I suppress my views until I've proven them against all others.

That sir, is hypocrisy.

I will no longer discuss this matter with you as it is not a profitable use of time. See Nehemiah 6:3

[monody]

"claiming that the preachers are wrong"

What would I be claiming was wrong? That people will burn for their sins? That's intrinsically tied to whether or not a god is real. Don't dance around.

As for providing proof of my belief, aside from the fact that it rests squarely upon the premise that one can't prove all other religions wrong while in turn validating one's own (which until now I have not even mentioned, hence not pushing my belief on anyone as you claim).

No hypocrisy, just yours.

[monody]

Point being, I did not assert my belief beyond a passing mention of agnosticism. I did not say you or any one else should be agnostic.

I said that openly preaching one's opinion without validation is wrong. I can see where you snaked in the idea of hypocrisy, but you have to entirely sidestep the reality of the argument to arrive that that conclusion.

[monody]

Furthermore. The only view I expressed, was that of 'seek proper validation' which for the only thing I had professed prior to your lie of hypocrisy was my opinion on an 'objective standard' which I did in fact provide evidence for with my reference to the 2005 intelligent design trial.

I'm perfectly willing to profess my personal belief and outline exactly why I think as such if you are actually willing to learn, but your deception thus far is very discouraging.

[monody]

Again, using semantics to save face is just mindless politics. Doing something wrong just because it's within a legal loophole doesn't make it excusable.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

How is this "wrong?" What standard of judgment do you use to determine right from wrong?

[monody]

Well as an agnostic, I go by the standard of judgment that every person as an individual has to come to the conclusions about their beliefs, and to actively try to coerce people against their decided nature is an imposition of will.

If one wants to go to hell, then let them. If one want's to live rationally then let them. Don;t impose a single point of view on another though, because no matter what that is wrong. The age of imperialism should stay in the past.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

You're attempting to pursuade me "to stop coercing people against their will" when that is precisely what you're advocating here.

If there is no objective standard of truth or morals then one should simply throw their hands in the air and proclaim no judgments whatsoever, including telling me that I am "wrong."

If I love people, I must warn them just as a firefighter would beat down a door if necessary to reach those caught in the flames. Anything else would be hating my neighbor.

[monody]

If one offers aid, then sure. But in order to validate your point as the correct or saving grace also requires you to have proof of such, not just preaching.

If you want to truly help, then you have to show that what you're preaching is real as compared to every other point of view on this planet.

Your belief has to visibly and rationally be right where all others are wrong, and you have to be able to show it.

Otherwise all you are doing is imposing will without any 'objective standard'.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

I do not need to prove anything to anyone. I am just the messenger. You will stand before God one day and give an account for your life. You have broken the laws of God and stand guilty. God offers forgiveness through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. Should you reject that, you face eternal damnation. I plead with you to turn to Christ.

[monody]

So in other words you just admitted that your preaching maintains little value beyond crying 'wolf'. Yet your conclusion is to continue crusade, and damn wether or not it's even a valid point to teach?

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

I admitted nothing of the sort.

The Bible is the Word of God and the abosulte truth and only authority on all matters of morality and judgment. God is the source of truth, not men. I am submitted to all it contains, and it warns you- unless you repent, you will perish.

[monody]

I'm not even sure what you're arguing here beyond the idea that the bible somehow validates itself.

And what of the many other faiths that say the same things? What even of just the Abrahamic faiths alone that all share the same scriptures you preach, but stand entirely apart?

Without answers to inquiry, it's merely a child crying wolf.

[johnmcglone4]

@ACallToHoliness Amen, Repent or perish! Luke 13:3,5

[monody]

And there is a vast gulf of difference between inspiring debate and inspiring a crowd of unhappy listeners and passers by. Disturbing the peace happens when people are unhappy, and debate is not made.

Using semantics to save face is just mindless politics.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

Did you even read the Supreme Court decision I posted? You're wrong. Hostile audience and anger is not a valid cause to refrain preaching.

Federal Court of Appeals, Florida, 1972: Hostile audience is not basis for restraining otherwise legal first amendment activity. U.S.C.A. Const. Amend. I (Collie v. Chicago Park Dist., 460 F. 2d. 746).

[monody]

In that regard then it was conducted very poorly legally. I have no doubt they weren't overboard and acted irrationally, but the fact is that what was done imposes one's views on another and impedes the well being of their livelihoods, which also goes against the first amendment, hence where 'disturbing the peace' comes from.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

You're simply mistaken. "imposing one's views on another" is not disturbing the peace. Public, peaceful assembly or protest is not a violation of any law in America. Supreme Court cases have upheld this:

Federal Court of Appeals, Florida, 1972: Hostile audience is not basis for restraining otherwise legal first amendment activity. U.S.C.A. Const. Amend. I (Collie v. Chicago Park Dist., 460 F. 2d. 746).

[monody]

Y'know, there is such a thing as disturbing the peace. Professing that everyone inside a building you're preaching in front of is going to burn for their sins is a pretty direct way of upsetting many people and pretty easy way to incite violence in the less civil folk.

It becomes rather mandatory for police to intervene in such cases, and is perfectly legal.

He may have been a crooked cop, but a right is a right and a wrong is a wrong, they do not turn one another.

[ACallToHoliness]

@monody

Thankfully the judge disagreed with your assessment and recognized that what the city of San Antonio did was illegal and a violation of the 1st Amendment. We were not arrested for disturbing the peace either, as we clearly were not. We were arrested for "verbal harassment" for reciting the Bible and peaceably sharing our faith in Christ.

[ACallToHoliness]

United States District Court, E.D. Wisconsin, April 30, 1970: An ordinance that proscribes conduct that tends to "disturb or annoy others" is both vague and overbroad. I he constitutionally protected exercise of free expression frequently causes a disturbance, for the very purpose of the first amendment is to stimulate the creation and communication of new, and therefore, often controversial ideas. (Gardner v. Ceci, 312 F. Supp. 516/ see also Landry v. Daley, 280 F. Supp. 968, N.D. 111. 1968).

[BroCope]

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God. This man will never see freedom again.  He will die in jail, the victim of his own depravity.

[shakerson]

Craig Nash is a fucking demon.

[shakerson]

@shakerson Sorry, I'll clarify before anyone responds. Craig Nash does the work of the devil. I'm not saying he's literally a demon, just an extremely weak-willed man.

[AaronM144000]

Praise the LORD God of hosts. Your sins will surely find you out. I am happy that his closet sin is exposed.