Ninjutsu is a battlefield art not a sport like MMA its way to dangerous and Ninjutsu helped influance judo and jujitsu infact the inventer of one of these arts was a student in a Ninjutsu school that specialised in bone breaking, but now its got a lot of restrictions put in place so they can be used in competion sport and MMA so if you were to use Ninjutsu in the ring it would be pretty much the same at what you already see because you take out all of the nasty stuff used for killing and maiming
Ninpo doesn't fit on a MMA ring, but most of the tecniques of ninjutsu are based, or are variants of the traditional jujutsu, so if the bjj are some of the best fighteers in MMA, why shouldn't a ninja? I mean, the ninpo, the ideology and intention of the attacks in ninjutsu, can't be used on MMA, cause the pretend to kill or break the enemy, but the techniques, well used, are the same as other martial arts that are succefull in this sport.
people need to understadn that Bujinkan is not a "modern" martial art where there is a lot of focus in tornaments figthing with rules...etc.
it was a way of life and encompasses more than just the taijutsu.
And the martial aspects were designed for the battle field and non convential fighting. i.e. killing from behind in secret, etc.
getting a Bujinkan fighter to fight in a ring as per MMA rules is the same as getting a kick boxer to fight as per the rules os normal boxing. very restrictive.
is it possible that a ninja had a chance in a mma fight to win due to the rules ???
i mean ( i know it is a bit narrow minded) i didn't see any good skilled ninjas in figt also when i tried to exam the techniques also the way a punch was thrown
well but when i see hatsumi sensei fighting in the vid i see a godskilled man but the others aren't that good skilled that's why i am asking myself this stupid question !!!!!
@robertacho89 everything is possible..... perhaps the reason why you did not see any good skilled Ninja in a fight was because you didn't look well enough perhaps not.... ultimately its not the effectiveness or lack of the art but rather that of the practitioner.....
@bufuadmin i agree but not all martial arts are born equal, look at boxing compared to muay thai, obv the latter is far superior as it uses 8 points of contact to boxings 2. i guess the real question is are the techniques of ninjutsu effective in a world where the modern fighters spend 8 hours a day training their punches and kicks rather than there sword fighting skills? your training to catch a one off punch, in muay you train to strike until your oponent is down.
@robertacho89 "ninjas" dont fight in MMA because they dont train in MMA. they dont train in MMA because MMA has rules that violate the principles of ninjutsu (eg. nothing is off limits in ninjutsu but you cant hit to the back of the head in MMA). That being said, does that mean that "ninjas" dont have any other means of dealing with adversaries? no of course they do. the training and the purpose is different. Im sure they COULD train for MMA and do well but most dont feel the need to bother.
@robertacho89 Bufuadmin is right, and I like your open-mindedness on the subject. Most anti-Bujinkan individuals spout hate and disrespect. In addition to considering bufuadmin's response, look up Steve Jennum on UFC. He's a cop and was trained in Togakure ryu ninjutsu (a school from the Bujinkan), and was quite a good fighter on UFC. You can go to my favorites to see him fight.
@robertacho89 It could be that the ninjutsu fighters lack fighting experience. Ninjutsu is, as far as I know, not a martial art where you see lots of tournaments, where mma on the other hand is all about fighting in the ring. Ninjutsu is mostly used as a technique for self defence, where mma is about beating the crap out of your opponent. Therefore, perhaps the experience you get in the ring as a mma fighter gives them a advantage because they are used to the "real deal" with adrenaline pumping
@electronikita we do randori, which is more controlled sparring. but no, not every technique is utilized. we can use shako ken, chin ken, ryu ken, we don't throw with ura seoi nage or ryote seoi nage, we don't fishhook or pull hair or gouge or use shi ken (biting) or twist testicles or any of that. so in other words, we spar, but sparring only allows about half of your repetoire.
@electronikita The irony is that Ninja probably trained with a very similar intensity and style to the way most MMA fighters train. I.e. With honest and hard dedication. Which is found so thin on the ground with alot of martial art groups these days.
@electronikita...I asked that question my Sensei has told me when you use sparring it actually breaks down ones confidence becasue you are not learning a pattern which eventually becomes second nature as an immediate reaction in a particular situation, which once learned correctly, will enable you to take your opponent down without thinking, we do practise full contact but each pattern is broken down and practised over &over until it becomes a natural way. Sparring is random and not structured
wow...exactly. People don't understand that movement is movement. It's hard to explain this to most MMA practitioners who are narrow minded or just plain thugs.One of them claimed he WAS 6th dan in Taijutsu and he had no clue how to use kihon happo in the ring. I tried pointing out a few basic principles but I think I was over his head.These principles are pretty much universal.But in his defence,there are many bad vids out there that misrepresent Ninpo.Thank you for the dynamic demos.
@bufuadmin uh yeah. see, for ninjutsu to be effective in MMA, one would have to train extensively, or have years or even a lifetime of training to make it consistent. Second, MMA simply does not allow for that kind of equipment, weaponry and clothing, making it rather useless. An athletic man who trained hard in MMA for less than a year would be able to take out any practitioner who lives in a comfortable 1st world country devoid of conflict of this archaic nature and has practiced several.
@Dmasterman: There might be some truth to that, but Ninpo and Ninjutsu primary purpose is not for MMA competition. Most Bujinkan schools do not incorporate a lot of sparring as do other systems such as Judo, Jiu Jitsu, boxing, Muay Thai, etc. BJJ teaches armbars, but more importantly, how to set up armbars quickly, efficiently and smoothly. Much of the self defense from systems such as Ninjutsu are geared towards typical people on the street, not MMA fighters, who you probably wont encounter.
@Dmasterman Because more than half of the techniques are in violation of the rules. And the rules are a violation to reality. In reality you should cheat, in mma u follow rules and FAIL.
@TenteixSaigo this is so true, In mma ninjutsu practitioners cannot use nerve attacks or throat shots, mma is for show ninjutsu is for much more than just a fight, it is a life skill.
That is because MMA is regulated by rules, that practitioners of ninjutsu are not bound to. Ninjutsu aspires to use whatever works, to survive, without the interfence by rules or the much twisted concept of "honor.. MMA aspires to a level of sport excellence and achievement, displayed by a metal belt. There is nothing wrong with this, if that is your chosen goal, but it is not predicated on the, need for survival, whereas ninjutsu, thrived under life and death pressure
@Dmasterman Yeah. I agree. Ninjutsu works in the real world. Where they use knives and guns. MMA is an amazing sport and I love to watch it but it is not an art of combat.
MMA is for a long time not real fighting. when it started people got knocked out too soon to make it a show buizness. so they put rules in to it so fights last longer and look more convincing. practicing mixed martial arts is very good, but fighting in the arena today is not so realistic for my oppinion.
Very Good, it is important that people see real Ninpo on the web. so many people who are unqualified are putting out video's so that the layman doesnt know the "real" thing from the beginner. Gambette
unreal. awsome great job. this was superb training. this is the real deal. real ninpo. awsome job and thanks for sharing. i favorited this one. 5 stars
Actually ninjutsu is a part of ninpo, Ninjutsu is the corporal part, the keiko.. Ninpo, involve the philosophy, moral, the deeper part..
this demo is very good, you can see, that they have a koryu soul, which they learn in genbukan, you will almost anyone in the bujinkan with this koryu spirit.. you can see that the bujinkan is more modern, training firearms, and if a diferent aproach..
Ninjutsu is a battlefield art not a sport like MMA its way to dangerous and Ninjutsu helped influance judo and jujitsu infact the inventer of one of these arts was a student in a Ninjutsu school that specialised in bone breaking, but now its got a lot of restrictions put in place so they can be used in competion sport and MMA so if you were to use Ninjutsu in the ring it would be pretty much the same at what you already see because you take out all of the nasty stuff used for killing and maiming
scream4urlyf 6 months ago
Very good stuff!
MrLeicamaster 7 months ago
los ninpo no tenemos permitido participar en torneos de combate deportivo oficiales porque se nos entrena para comite y matar
pero si podemos acer mma
taykenpo 7 months ago
Ninpo doesn't fit on a MMA ring, but most of the tecniques of ninjutsu are based, or are variants of the traditional jujutsu, so if the bjj are some of the best fighteers in MMA, why shouldn't a ninja? I mean, the ninpo, the ideology and intention of the attacks in ninjutsu, can't be used on MMA, cause the pretend to kill or break the enemy, but the techniques, well used, are the same as other martial arts that are succefull in this sport.
Altarion666 9 months ago
people need to understadn that Bujinkan is not a "modern" martial art where there is a lot of focus in tornaments figthing with rules...etc.
it was a way of life and encompasses more than just the taijutsu.
And the martial aspects were designed for the battle field and non convential fighting. i.e. killing from behind in secret, etc.
getting a Bujinkan fighter to fight in a ring as per MMA rules is the same as getting a kick boxer to fight as per the rules os normal boxing. very restrictive.
lukegmurphy 9 months ago
is it possible that a ninja had a chance in a mma fight to win due to the rules ???
i mean ( i know it is a bit narrow minded) i didn't see any good skilled ninjas in figt also when i tried to exam the techniques also the way a punch was thrown
well but when i see hatsumi sensei fighting in the vid i see a godskilled man but the others aren't that good skilled that's why i am asking myself this stupid question !!!!!
robertacho89 1 year ago
@robertacho89 everything is possible..... perhaps the reason why you did not see any good skilled Ninja in a fight was because you didn't look well enough perhaps not.... ultimately its not the effectiveness or lack of the art but rather that of the practitioner.....
bufuadmin 1 year ago 3
@bufuadmin i agree but not all martial arts are born equal, look at boxing compared to muay thai, obv the latter is far superior as it uses 8 points of contact to boxings 2. i guess the real question is are the techniques of ninjutsu effective in a world where the modern fighters spend 8 hours a day training their punches and kicks rather than there sword fighting skills? your training to catch a one off punch, in muay you train to strike until your oponent is down.
XzmazX 9 months ago
@robertacho89 "ninjas" dont fight in MMA because they dont train in MMA. they dont train in MMA because MMA has rules that violate the principles of ninjutsu (eg. nothing is off limits in ninjutsu but you cant hit to the back of the head in MMA). That being said, does that mean that "ninjas" dont have any other means of dealing with adversaries? no of course they do. the training and the purpose is different. Im sure they COULD train for MMA and do well but most dont feel the need to bother.
Kyle17880000 1 year ago 2
@robertacho89 Bufuadmin is right, and I like your open-mindedness on the subject. Most anti-Bujinkan individuals spout hate and disrespect. In addition to considering bufuadmin's response, look up Steve Jennum on UFC. He's a cop and was trained in Togakure ryu ninjutsu (a school from the Bujinkan), and was quite a good fighter on UFC. You can go to my favorites to see him fight.
ninpo4life 1 year ago
@robertacho89 It could be that the ninjutsu fighters lack fighting experience. Ninjutsu is, as far as I know, not a martial art where you see lots of tournaments, where mma on the other hand is all about fighting in the ring. Ninjutsu is mostly used as a technique for self defence, where mma is about beating the crap out of your opponent. Therefore, perhaps the experience you get in the ring as a mma fighter gives them a advantage because they are used to the "real deal" with adrenaline pumping
ks2605 7 months ago
@robertacho89 someone once said its not about the art or style but about the person......
bufuadmin 6 months ago
@electronikita we do randori, which is more controlled sparring. but no, not every technique is utilized. we can use shako ken, chin ken, ryu ken, we don't throw with ura seoi nage or ryote seoi nage, we don't fishhook or pull hair or gouge or use shi ken (biting) or twist testicles or any of that. so in other words, we spar, but sparring only allows about half of your repetoire.
pacificimporters 1 year ago
@electronikita The irony is that Ninja probably trained with a very similar intensity and style to the way most MMA fighters train. I.e. With honest and hard dedication. Which is found so thin on the ground with alot of martial art groups these days.
outsidepers 1 year ago
@electronikita...I asked that question my Sensei has told me when you use sparring it actually breaks down ones confidence becasue you are not learning a pattern which eventually becomes second nature as an immediate reaction in a particular situation, which once learned correctly, will enable you to take your opponent down without thinking, we do practise full contact but each pattern is broken down and practised over &over until it becomes a natural way. Sparring is random and not structured
ANGELOchilly 1 year ago
Looks like you guys train with some good movement.
23mavcat 1 year ago
Dam good vid
DethMetalNinja1 1 year ago
after seeing the hanbo i definetly knew it was ninpo lol
wasabi107 1 year ago
¡¡ninpo ikkan!!
darkbladeshinobi2 1 year ago
I love the drumming.
jibberjabber098 1 year ago
finally some good movements
Ni7ram 2 years ago
ninjas rock!
anirudhkrishnamani 2 years ago
go ninja go ninja go!
anirudhkrishnamani 2 years ago
wow guys.... very nice!
Dougn39 2 years ago 4
ninjutsu don't work in MMA ;D
Dmasterman 2 years ago
only for people who don' know how to use it ;)
bufuadmin 2 years ago 32
wow...exactly. People don't understand that movement is movement. It's hard to explain this to most MMA practitioners who are narrow minded or just plain thugs.One of them claimed he WAS 6th dan in Taijutsu and he had no clue how to use kihon happo in the ring. I tried pointing out a few basic principles but I think I was over his head.These principles are pretty much universal.But in his defence,there are many bad vids out there that misrepresent Ninpo.Thank you for the dynamic demos.
sanshin9 2 years ago
@bufuadmin DEFINITELY about to favorite this one...........
nonstophero0079 2 years ago
@bufuadmin Well i guess there's many that don't know how to use it then ;)
jon0g 1 year ago
@bufuadmin Well i guess there's many that don't know how to use it then ;)
jon0g 1 year ago
@bufuadmin True, but still, it could not be used in full potencial
MarcstonX7q 1 year ago
Ninjutsu is a martial art, not a sport.
Sentnl 1 year ago
@bufuadmin uh yeah. see, for ninjutsu to be effective in MMA, one would have to train extensively, or have years or even a lifetime of training to make it consistent. Second, MMA simply does not allow for that kind of equipment, weaponry and clothing, making it rather useless. An athletic man who trained hard in MMA for less than a year would be able to take out any practitioner who lives in a comfortable 1st world country devoid of conflict of this archaic nature and has practiced several.
punkmusicmetal 1 year ago
@bufuadmin :)
Svartegrim 1 year ago
ever seen a juji-gatame used in MMA? it was being used in japanese jujutsu and ninjutsu 500 years before judo or BJJ existed
pacificimporters 2 years ago 11
ninjutsu is a MMA (jujutsu, dakentaijutsu and weapons combat)
mcahco 2 years ago
ninjitsu is basically illegal in mma. it's not for sport.
bdkelevra 2 years ago 4
every thing works in mma... depends on the person... besides ninjustsu its a killing art not a sport
nunuty 2 years ago 2
@Dmasterman: There might be some truth to that, but Ninpo and Ninjutsu primary purpose is not for MMA competition. Most Bujinkan schools do not incorporate a lot of sparring as do other systems such as Judo, Jiu Jitsu, boxing, Muay Thai, etc. BJJ teaches armbars, but more importantly, how to set up armbars quickly, efficiently and smoothly. Much of the self defense from systems such as Ninjutsu are geared towards typical people on the street, not MMA fighters, who you probably wont encounter.
tonydelacruz45 1 year ago
@Dmasterman the fact isn't tha it doesn't work itself. The fact is: ninjutsu is forbidden in competitions.
DNewFag 1 year ago
@Dmasterman Because more than half of the techniques are in violation of the rules. And the rules are a violation to reality. In reality you should cheat, in mma u follow rules and FAIL.
TenteixSaigo 1 year ago
@Dmasterman Half of all ninjutsu is illegal in mma. In reality MMA will fall to a real martial art
TenteixSaigo 1 year ago
@TenteixSaigo this is so true, In mma ninjutsu practitioners cannot use nerve attacks or throat shots, mma is for show ninjutsu is for much more than just a fight, it is a life skill.
shinobiwarrior1990 1 year ago
@Dmasterman You silly as hell!!! My primary art is ninjutsu and Ima world champion!!!!!!
Tonystark114 1 year ago
That is because MMA is regulated by rules, that practitioners of ninjutsu are not bound to. Ninjutsu aspires to use whatever works, to survive, without the interfence by rules or the much twisted concept of "honor.. MMA aspires to a level of sport excellence and achievement, displayed by a metal belt. There is nothing wrong with this, if that is your chosen goal, but it is not predicated on the, need for survival, whereas ninjutsu, thrived under life and death pressure
owenspence 1 year ago 4
@Dmasterman MMA don't work in ninjutsu
pacificimporters 1 year ago
@Dmasterman Yeah. I agree. Ninjutsu works in the real world. Where they use knives and guns. MMA is an amazing sport and I love to watch it but it is not an art of combat.
landoftheninja 1 year ago
@Dmasterman and MMA don't work in Ninjutsu, so what is your point?
rangerman012 1 year ago
@Dmasterman
ninjutsu is to kill
MMA is a sport
Kishikume 1 year ago 3
@Dmasterman haha check out the first 4 UFC's. winner of 2 and 3 was a ninjutsu guy
Shinkenjujutsu 1 year ago
@Dmasterman
only MMA work in MMA so what are u trying to say?
ommerl 1 year ago
@Dmasterman
MMA is for a long time not real fighting. when it started people got knocked out too soon to make it a show buizness. so they put rules in to it so fights last longer and look more convincing. practicing mixed martial arts is very good, but fighting in the arena today is not so realistic for my oppinion.
ommerl 1 year ago
love the coup de grace at 2:27
pacificimporters 2 years ago
very nice kamae.never seen an dojo use authentic weaponry.nice.
ninjaspit 2 years ago
Nice stuff! :)
leicamaster 2 years ago
This is great stuff. Thank you for sharing. Much respect!
ninpo4life 2 years ago 2
Very good!
Muito bom!
CBoavida 2 years ago
Very Good, it is important that people see real Ninpo on the web. so many people who are unqualified are putting out video's so that the layman doesnt know the "real" thing from the beginner. Gambette
7NEMISIS 2 years ago 5
unreal. awsome great job. this was superb training. this is the real deal. real ninpo. awsome job and thanks for sharing. i favorited this one. 5 stars
MOUNTAINOUS 2 years ago
hey you made piece nd unblocked everyone but me? come on man dont i diserve a chance.
vvushurichard 2 years ago
Let me Guess, you imitated everything you've see in this video, haven't you?
Crim15 2 years ago
this is the best ninjutsu vid I've seen
jfkingdom 2 years ago
Great embu. I wish more people could see this true side of ninpo, and less of the touchy-feely stuff that permeates the interwebs.
pacificimporters 3 years ago
awesome oni kudaki at 3:00!
and i loved that double kick earlier on in the video, one of my favorite moves to do aha
this looks like a really straightforward good dojo, great stuff, i loved watching it
ninjiujitsu1 3 years ago 2
Hi, thank you for your nice comments. Yes its Bujinkan Dojo guided by Shihan Eduard Divantman.
bufuadmin 3 years ago
Hi, thank you for your nice comments. Yes its Bujinkan Dojo guided by Shihan Eduard Divantman.
bufuadmin 3 years ago
Ah, I see. My apologies then.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
Why is this advertised in any way as having anything to do with MMA? Seems like a scam to snag views to me.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
Because it was part of the MMA event
bufuadmin 3 years ago
Actually ninjutsu is a part of ninpo, Ninjutsu is the corporal part, the keiko.. Ninpo, involve the philosophy, moral, the deeper part..
this demo is very good, you can see, that they have a koryu soul, which they learn in genbukan, you will almost anyone in the bujinkan with this koryu spirit.. you can see that the bujinkan is more modern, training firearms, and if a diferent aproach..
pedrokuoshu 3 years ago
You seem to know alot about Ninpo. Do you train in the Genbukan? lol you know too much to not be part of the organization.
Ongyokage6389 3 years ago
loooks fun
like2cds 3 years ago
wow
great to see our art so enlighnted to others =]
reggaemon14 3 years ago
NINPO is the highest order of ninjutsu you can achieve !!!!its finding enlightment.....
kookdeville79 4 years ago
ninjutsu is a part of ninpo, ninpo is the art of kill in extrictly secret and silence 4 this u can use anything
Zendoru 4 years ago
Spelonker "is this ninpo or ninjutsu"?
i think its mixed :)
xxAtrinxx 4 years ago
ninpo is a part of ninjutsu...ninjutsu is composed by: ninpo jujutsu taijutsu
aleander666 3 years ago
i know :p
xxAtrinxx 3 years ago
BY jujutsu do you mean genjutsu?
2007FORLife 3 years ago
No, Jujutsu as in Japan's historic grappling martial art.
UzumakiWarrior01 3 years ago
Well executed, but Bufuikan?
C00LTUBE 4 years ago
Wait, is this Ninpo or Ninjutsu?
Spelonker 4 years ago
Ninpo is sometimes used interchangeably with Ninjutsu.
ResidentNinja 4 years ago
the art of the ninja
reggaemon14 3 years ago
From Daito ryu and maniwan Ryu .... Aikijutsu
Y4n0sUk3 4 years ago
I wonder if Aikido came from this...
MusashiVII 4 years ago
Yes it came from Kukishin Ryu
PMACoralSprings 4 years ago
aikido came from several diff arts including kukishin ryu jutaijutsu and other types of jutjusu ueshiba studied with the kuki family
kookdeville79 4 years ago
very inspiring!!!!!!!!!!
PMACoralSprings 4 years ago
Another great video! Glad to see awesome Ninpo Taijutsu from a Bujinkan Dojo.
shinobiryukenden 4 years ago 2